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Character and Story Creation => Roleplay Questions and Story Creation => Topic started by: Abigail Nightwatch on July 12, 2005, 05:37:22 AM



Title: Feedback wanted for IRC suggestion
Post by: Abigail Nightwatch on July 12, 2005, 05:37:22 AM
Hello all. I realize I am still new to Santharia, but I have an idea to submit that I believe has been thought of once before. I have however a few possible new ideas how to do it.

The idea is to have an IRC channel "Santharia Tavern" if you will. The concept obviously follows suit with many of the other role playing chat rooms across the web, however, in keeping with Santharia's desire to maintain the integrity and calibur of our beloved role playing, a few guidlines would be in place. There are many ways to work this on many aspects.

Moderators; we could devise a system of checks and balances to keep moderators constantly hovering over this chat, ensuring that play goes as it should, having to get volunteers to moderate, perhaps not needing to meet the same intense criteria as for the posts, but some criteria non the less. Perhaps even have shifts assigned so as to always have a moderator present. This however, would get manautness.

My suggestion is instead make it as it should be, just like in the army, everyone is a safety officer, here, everyone is a moderator. This of course is under the pretense that a 'moderators' job in the chat is to ensure rpers are abiding by the golden rp code, the ten commandments if you will. You might have assigned moderators who don't nessecarily have to be present but can be notified about any discrepencies.

Also, another angle is to have players submit requests to participate in the Tavern chat. This would provide the ability for nominated mods to screen participants and go over the assigned rules before play begins or is allowed.

As the idea is simply for a tavern setting, story mods are not nessecary in this case. It is simply a place for one to take their character to interact live with other Santharia characters, a common place if you will. We already have an OOC place for our members, why not the same thing for IC?

Storylines; This I would suggest would be something left between players, something occuring during their interaction and time spent together. By reviewing their CD's and RP ability before granting access to the chat, we can ensure that golden rules will not be broken. There may be cases where players wish to get together to participate in a live storyline, but this should be something worked out with the designated chat moderator and submitted in the same way a complaint might.

Rules aside from golden rules;
Descriptive and informative play; no short 1-5 liners.
EVERYONE is a moderator. See something wrong, copy paste and submit it to the designated moderator(s).
Give other players time to react to your actions. It's not a race, it's RPing.
Unless otherwise specified, Tavern help are free NPC's not to be killed or harmed. Just pay attention to your surroundings. If the barkeep just went to the back to prepare a meal, don't have the barkeep pouring your drink at the same time.
No trashing the tavern!

These are just a few suggested ideas for rules based on a few things I've seen in other chat room RpG's that successfully kept the integrity of their chat going. Sure you get a few bad apples, but that is bound to happen.

Also, you may wish to allow this for titled characters only. Further enforcing the approval system as well as submission to participate.

Lastly, if the idea is in fact spawned and the need for moderators presented, please post here if you would volunteer to be one of the many to keep the peace and uphold the RP golden rules.

I shall begin by being the first volunteer.

Also, please leave feedback and comments, and ideas or suggestions on this idea, good or bad, better ideas or what have you. Let's stregthen the already strong bond between our role playing community.



Title: Re: Feedback wanted for IRC suggestion
Post by: Erián'melór on July 12, 2005, 07:32:22 AM
I think it would be a great idea, as long as it is properly moderated. Also, you might want to consider such a thing as a post that is too long. This thing is going to be live, and it could get confusing if everyone wrote three paragraphs for each post. Of course, you don't want posts to be too short either. I think you should try to find a medium, as in longer than five lines, but shorter than twenty five lines. That is only an example, the mods will be the ones to decide what lengths are appropriate. Also, make sure that the players understand that time is needed in order to write a good post. It would be even more confusing if people just randomly post instead of responding to the posts of those that have posted before them. I hope this makes sense. Anyway, its a great idea and I will be the first one to refuse to be a mod of the IRC tavern. Sorry if that sounds harsh, but I don't have the time needed to dedicate to this project. Though I might drop in every now and then, if this idea is approved.:biggrin  

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Title: Re: Feedback wanted for IRC suggestion
Post by: Gararion on July 12, 2005, 07:40:22 AM
interesting little idea you have you, which has inspired me to write a new script if wanted.  What type of script?  Basically a waiter.  I have played in a Tavern-type IRC channe before and notice when it comes to ordering drinks and food, sually you don't have a desinated waitor/barkeep.

Though is someone is volunteering for this job, then I wont write the script.



Title: Re: Feedback wanted for IRC suggestion
Post by: Luca the Thief on July 12, 2005, 09:31:22 AM
Great idea Gar. Before finding the "haven" of Santharia, I myself often frequented chat-based roleplaying. The content itself was medicore at best, poor compared to the system we have here, but I think it has a serious chance of flourishing with the right upkeep. A few more things:

- Along with the "everybody is a moderator" rule, I would just like to tack onto this that it should be widely enforced that characters must have an approved CD. If not, things start getting very detached from this world. I personally beleive that if something is to be associated with Santharia, then it should be Santharia.

- On that note, should the chat-idea be integrated, we might want to choose a location of sorts for this tavern. Somewhat like the city games we have running. Where will it be? What kind of people frequent it? Will the outside area be playable?

- How many 'official' moderators will we want? I'm thinking along the lines of anywhere from three to six.

- More of a technical question, but what are the guidelines for created a permanent channel? Do we have to contact the sysop(?)? Pay any money? Is the bot entirely ours (er...yours. I'm about as useful as a syrofoam anchor in those respects :biggrin ) to program?

But I love the idea. Though I've learned to prefer forum-type roleplaying, there's nothing like a good live swap to get the old brain back on it's toes.


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Title: Re: Feedback wanted for IRC suggestion
Post by: Gararion on July 13, 2005, 09:00:22 AM
Quote:
How many 'official' moderators will we want? I'm thinking along the lines of anywhere from three to six.
 Not usre how many you'd want, but I would need to be a moderator to ensure that the bot works correctly

Quote:
More of a technical question, but what are the guidelines for created a permanent channel? Do we have to contact the sysop(?)? Pay any money? Is the bot entirely ours (er...yours. I'm about as useful as a syrofoam anchor in those respects :biggrin ) to program?
 Creating a channel is free, making it a permanent channel is jut as free.  All you need to know is the proper commands to do such a thing.

Once we decide on a place to hold the "Tavern" then I can create a channel and set it up, then begin workign on the bot.

As for the bot, yes, it would be entirely ours(mine) to program.  Though, if it comes to a time where I can't be around, I'll create the bot in a manner where it can be installed easily on anyones computer which uses mIRC and willing to leave a copy of mIRC running on their system.



Title: Re: Feedback wanted for IRC suggestion
Post by: Abigail Nightwatch on July 13, 2005, 12:26:22 PM
Gar, I have cable internet and can keep an open connection to run the bot as a backup if ever needed for if or when we get this Tavern off the ground, that is if it is approved. I also do run mIRC on my comp.



Title: Re: Feedback wanted for IRC suggestion
Post by: Kalína Dalá'isyrás on July 13, 2005, 12:44:22 PM
My fear, as with any open chat roleplaying like you have suggested is that it is extremely chaotic. Even with moderators, things can get out of hand VERY quickly and with people constantly coming and going with bad connections and other things like that, it can easily go haywire.



Title: Re: Feedback wanted for IRC suggestion
Post by: Gararion on July 14, 2005, 01:07:22 AM
Abigail:  As long as I am around, you wont need to worry about the script not having a active connection, unless I lose hydro.  I have DSL, so internet connection wont be a problem.  As well, I would like to keep the script on my end untill the time comes that I may have to leave, as it will allow me to make updates without having to send updates to several people.

Kalina:  True, that is one problem that we may face, though I doubt it.  I mean, Santharia is not a place that has a lot of IRC members.  Even if we pick up a few additional IRC members, which would be a good thing, one thing to keep in mind is that our channel wouldn't be like other IRC channels where one player may play several of their characters at the same time.  this is one rule I think we should consider, a person only being able to play a single character of theirs at any given time.  No multi-clienting.



Title: Re: Feedback wanted for IRC suggestion
Post by: Kalína Dalá'isyrás on July 14, 2005, 01:09:22 AM
It still sounds like mass chaos to me. I have tried to do that chat roleplaying thing and starting up in the middle. It is insane ><



Title: Re: Feedback wanted for IRC suggestion
Post by: Darien Gulath on July 14, 2005, 01:11:22 AM
Hm Gar is it also able for you to write a script or something that keeps players from spamming, Like.... Only being able to post once in 2 minutes for example. That would fix a part of chaos and also disables players to spam.

And maybe an editable script to give a summary of the story at on which place, event etc. etc. is happening once they join (Should be possible i guess)...

My remaining concern is if someone screws up with a "chatpost" then it should be deleted. But i guess this isn't possible and also creates a chaos factor of confussion (and this WILL happen, i am sure of that)

And final most important,... Do whe actually have ENOUGH players to participate? Because i don't think 6 mods would be enough for 24/7



Title: Re: Feedback wanted for IRC suggestion
Post by: Abigail Nightwatch on July 14, 2005, 09:10:22 AM
Really I don't think the chaos issue is going to be nearly as severe or large scale as it is for other various chat RP's. I assume this chat can be restricted to Santharia members only, so right away that aleviates half the chaos. Then they have to be titled characters as well, which aleviates yet more chaos. On top of that, the everyone is a moderator theory will help to quell more chaos still and require less needed personel for maintaining. We already have a high calibur of members that are strongly encouraged to follow the RP golden rules. Finally, I don't think enough credit is being given to the solid environment created here that discourages spam and chaotic RP. The Administraters and Moderaters have done an excellent job ensuring order, and I think that due credit should be given to them and recognized, and I feel it will most certainly reflect in an IRC RP chat Tavern.  



Title: Re: Feedback wanted for IRC suggestion
Post by: Gararion on July 14, 2005, 09:42:22 AM
Quote:
Hm Gar is it also able for you to write a script or something that keeps players from spamming, Like.... Only being able to post once in 2 minutes for example. That would fix a part of chaos and also disables players to spam.
Yes, this could be done.  Though one thing to keep in mind is the style of gameplay at the time.  Not everyone may wish to write the max lenght in each post.  When it comes to conversation, it may oly take a sentenance or two to get your thoughts accross to the other player or players involved.

Quote:
And maybe an editable script to give a summary of the story at on which place, event etc. etc. is happening once they join (Should be possible i guess)...
 Not quite sure what ou mean by an editable script here, though the smummary part may be a little hard.  The best I could do is design it so It will keep a log of each days posts, which could be retrievable or perhaps asked for.

Quote:
My remaining concern is if someone screws up with a "chatpost" then it should be deleted. But i guess this isn't possible and also creates a chaos factor of confussion (and this WILL happen, i am sure of that)
 Yes, people will mess up with posts.  But if you put in the above mentioned spam limit, it will give players more time to ponder of the contents of their posts before posting, hopefully seeing the posts of others who s/he is relying to before finishing their post.

Quote:
And final most important,... Do whe actually have ENOUGH players to participate? Because i don't think 6 mods would be enough for 24/7
 The script could perform basic modding abilities, though thesemodding abilities can be later defined and ironed out once the actual rules are laid out.



Title: Re: Feedback wanted for IRC suggestion
Post by: Rheine on July 14, 2005, 09:36:22 AM
Great idea.

Me, Gar, and Luci used to do this kind of RP a lot back in the day. Was a lot of fun.

TBH, I prefer chat RP to forum RP... much, much, much quicker. Conversations take minutes instead of weeks. :)   Overall the RP is a lot more realistic.


But NO spam timer or whatever, please. Some 'posts' might be too large to fit in a single message, and some things might be best separated.


Chaotic? Not really. When it's REALLY busy, then a little yeah. Just ignore anything that doesn't pertain to your character for the most part.

And if you go somewhere else, keep it out of the main room. Start up a new room with just the people in that other area, so that they only see what each other is doing instead of everything. For instance... in a tavern, a group of people go up to a room. They open up a new chat room just between themselves, so they can't hear anything else and no one knows what they're doing up in the room.


Oh, and one more thing...

Quote:
Descriptive and informative play; no short 1-5 liners.


Massive amounts of description are the goal of forum RP, not chat RP. While you should try and make sure to keep things detailed, you don't need to be writing a book for chat RP. If you're character is nodding in agreement, there is no need to write anymore than /me nods in agreement.

Also, it's better that things aren't TOO long, in any case, because there is a limit on the amount you can type in one message.

Chat RP isn't forum RP, so long posts aren't necessary, and not everything needs a beautiful paragraph-long description.

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"She wants to go home, but nobody's home
It's where she lies, broken inside,
With no place to go, no place to go
To dry her eyes, broken inside."
-Nobody's Home, Avril Lavigne

Edited by: Rheine at: 7/14/05 1:50


Title: Re: Feedback wanted for IRC suggestion
Post by: Luca the Thief on July 14, 2005, 12:03:22 PM
Hmm, I agree with Das (Rheine) on the spam-count thing. It should also be made well aware that the post are cut off in IRC, so this is a currently minor issue to be dealt with (I know some programs automatically cut the post length, but unfortunatley mine is one that does not).


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Title: Re: Feedback wanted for IRC suggestion
Post by: Gararion on July 14, 2005, 11:16:22 PM
Indeed Dasson.

*Remembers playing in Broken Dagger with Luci on several occasions*

Also, for those who use mIRC but don't always have sound turned on, mIRC doesn't automatically cut one long post into two, but it will start to beep at you each time you go over the character limit, every letter over character imit grants a single beep when the key is pressed.



Title: Re: Feedback wanted for IRC suggestion
Post by: Abigail Nightwatch on July 15, 2005, 02:50:22 AM
To clarify what I'd mentioned about no 1-5 liners, what I had meant to put across was we dont want to see any of this;
:: enters::

:: sits down::

::shoots arrow::

:: stabs rat::

I agree with most of you in that we definately do not want whole paragraphs, but we do want people to be descriptive in what they are doing. Consider this instead;

:: Abby pushes open the strong wodden door to the tavern and steps in, her stride light and carefree::

:: Making her way to the bar she takes a seat, looking over the selection of wines while the barkeep tends to another customer::

These have all been great ideas and awesome input. One question, who ends up deciding whether or not we can do this?



Title: Re: Feedback wanted for IRC suggestion
Post by: Khiera Meneris on July 15, 2005, 04:03:22 AM
To answer your question Abigail:

The Administration will make a final decision, after a decent preiod of time whereby other players have had a chance to voice their opinions and suggestions on this idea, whether this is feasible and viable :)

In general, some of our greater considerations are:
-- how will this idea work
-- does it add to/enhance the RPing experience for the members of this board
-- what are the pros and cons, challenges and benefits of implementing this idea
-- if this idea requires dedicated player participant, are there volunteers to ensure that the idea is implemented smoothly and successfully

You seem to have generated a fair amount of discussion Abigail, and that's a good thing :)  The Admins are discussing and exploring the idea amongst ourselves, and we will soon reach upon a decision based upon input from members of the board :)  





Title: Re: Feedback wanted for IRC suggestion
Post by: Luca the Thief on July 15, 2005, 09:25:22 AM
Well, I have to admit, I personaly prefer paragraphs to liners (though I do bop back and forth, especially in converastion) but I'm sure nobody wants something like, oh say, this (Awesome comic, although discontinued)


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Title: Re: Feedback wanted for IRC suggestion
Post by: Grunok the Exile on July 15, 2005, 11:31:22 AM
Mwahahaha! Goths rule! *cough* Sorry, I thought I'd grown out of that...

EDIT: Thought it might make more sense it I mentioned this was re Luca's link  :)  





Grunok's CD

Edited by: Grunok the Exile at: 7/15/05 3:32


Title: Re: Feedback wanted for IRC suggestion
Post by: Gararion on July 15, 2005, 09:19:22 PM
Man, must be discontinued, I couldn't even open it.



Title: Re: Feedback wanted for IRC suggestion
Post by: Rheine on July 16, 2005, 11:40:22 AM
What, Gar?

-----
"She wants to go home, but nobody's home
It's where she lies, broken inside,
With no place to go, no place to go
To dry her eyes, broken inside."
-Nobody's Home, Avril Lavigne



Title: Re: Feedback wanted for IRC suggestion
Post by: Gararion on July 17, 2005, 02:26:22 AM
Umm...I will assume that what was for the Broken Dagger, that may have been a place only me and Luci RP'ed together.  Though I do remeber the times us three rp'ed together.



Title: Re: Feedback wanted for IRC suggestion
Post by: Rheine on July 17, 2005, 02:37:22 AM
I never RPed at Broken Dagger, although you and Luci might have.


You, me, and her did a few RP chat sessions on MSN, that weren't part of that Broken Dagger thing she did normally, if you remember.

-----
"She wants to go home, but nobody's home
It's where she lies, broken inside,
With no place to go, no place to go
To dry her eyes, broken inside."
-Nobody's Home, Avril Lavigne



Title: Re: Feedback wanted for IRC suggestion
Post by: Gararion on July 17, 2005, 01:30:22 PM
Ah yes, the MSN group sessions, I should still have a few of those logs on my old computer, if it hasn't got a memory wipe since then.



Title: Re: Feedback wanted for IRC suggestion
Post by: Khiera Meneris on July 20, 2005, 03:32:22 AM
Hmmm ... so, are you still able to commit the amount of time that you've mentioned before to this real-time RPing irc chatroom should we decide to give the green light for it for a trial run, Abigail?





Title: Re: Feedback wanted for IRC suggestion
Post by: Gararion on July 20, 2005, 06:00:22 AM
I myself can aid Abigail if so needed.



Title: Re: Feedback wanted for IRC suggestion
Post by: Barret Nightwatch on July 20, 2005, 08:08:22 AM
I can most certainly try if we'd like to give it a trial run. I am in the military so I do stay busy IRL at times, but I'd like to try. If you are leaning towards 24 7 monitoring, I do know I will most defienatly not be able to do that. I guess my answer sort of depends on the method which you decide to run this. Of course, Gar, any help is appreciated. ;)  



Title: Re: Feedback wanted for IRC suggestion
Post by: Ta'lia of the Seven Jewels on July 21, 2005, 04:33:22 AM
I never have played a real-time chat-rpg, so I can‘t say, if it will end in chaos or not, though I can‘t imagine, how it will work. Do you have to wait till all other five members currently playing have posted, each one with 10 lines? (I can imagine up to three, but not more) You can‘t read and write at the same time, you want to say something, but this is obsolete, because somebody else answered already?

Creating a new channel is easy, but how do you want to restrict it to titled Santharian members? You have to have a pass then, be registered with your name and validated(?) with email. Then the easy Gararion-website access is not possible.

I doubt, that you will find enough people, even not for a restricted span of time, during which more people are in the channel.

You can always try it out with creating a temporary channel in the current IRC, just take a few people in the new room. maybe decision about a permanent new RPG-chat channel is easier then - or it dies before it has started ;)  

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Title: Re: Feedback wanted for IRC suggestion
Post by: Gararion on July 21, 2005, 08:51:22 AM
Quote:
I never have played a real-time chat-rpg, so I can‘t say, if it will end in chaos or not, though I can‘t imagine, how it will work. Do you have to wait till all other five members currently playing have posted, each one with 10 lines? (I can imagine up to three, but not more) You can‘t read and write at the same time, you want to say something, but this is obsolete, because somebody else answered already?
 All depends on the style you wish to play.  In the Broken Dagger one I played with Luci in, there was at any time 20+ people in there.  But these 20+ people weren't all roleplaying together.  Each table or area was chatting amoung themselves.  If the players wished to have a 'private' roleplay session, they would enter their own channel or do it over PM.  Example, wishpering into anothers ears.

When I played with Dasson and Luci over MSN, the way we did it was in two MSN groups(channels when looking ta IRC).  One was used for OOC messages, the other for game messages only.  In the game group, each player would post in turn.  We limit the number of consective posts a person could make to 2-3 I believe, as we often made long detailed 'posts'.

As for the messages becoming obsolete, the last method mentioned has it advantages over the first one.  Often, when making your post, you'd end it in with something theother players could respond to.  Also, if another player forgot something or wished to say something in response to the other player who responded to the event at hand, s/he could mention so in the OOC Group(channel), asking if s/he could make a post before another player, often agreed to as it would enable theother players more to reply to.

In the Broken Dagger example, it often required fast typing as well as reading while you type.  Though people who are playing in small 'table area' groups, often work in the same method as the MSN example.  The only problem you would run into would be replying to events that you may 'catch out of the corner of your eye'(at another 'table').  Usually, the way you would let the players involved in that group would be a quick short post, somethign along the lines of: /me snaps his head in the direction of the commotion.

Quote:
Creating a new channel is easy, but how do you want to restrict it to titled Santharian members? You have to have a pass then, be registered with your name and validated(?) with email. Then the easy Gararion-website access is not possible.
 Well, there is two ways of doing this.  You can either make the channel a pasword required channel, like you had mentioned or you could make the channel a moderated channel.  Let me explain the differences.

A password channel would require people to enter a password before entering.  This is called a key channel mode.  To enter the channel, they would need to enter: /join #channelname password  The down side to this method is, anyone who guesses the password, or given it, can enter and begin playing.

The moderated channel method is another channel mode, though it works differently.  This method allows anyoen to enter the channel, but only those given permission to speak may speak.  Permission can be granted granted by the IRC bot, or by actual moderators.  This will allow anyone to enter, watch people play and perhaps gain interest in Santharia and go and create a character to play with.

As well, both mmethod will allow the Gararion-website access to work, as you need to /join a channel before you an talk, and the bot/moderator/chanserv can grant you permission to speak.

Quote:
I doubt, that you will find enough people, even not for a restricted span of time, during which more people are in the channel.
 This could be one drawback, but you don't always need a whole lot of people to start a small roleplaying session. I've rolepalyed with one other person to twenty other people, both with the same experiance.



Title: Re: Feedback wanted for IRC suggestion
Post by: Darien Gulath on July 21, 2005, 11:47:22 PM
another possibility is to make the people in the channel wait their turn.
Everybody doesn't post before his turn reducing more chaos.  



Title: Re: Feedback wanted for IRC suggestion
Post by: Gararion on July 22, 2005, 05:58:22 AM
That is basically the MSN group example.  Each player posts in turn and if a certain player wishes to post before his/her turn, they ask the other players if that is okay.



Title: Re: Feedback wanted for IRC suggestion
Post by: Luca the Thief on July 22, 2005, 06:28:22 AM
When I played it was all kind of common sense. You write your response to whatever happens, but if somebody takes your spot first, you back off and delete what you've written. It could be a bit frustrating if you're a slow typer....


But I'm not :biggrin  


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Title: Re: Feedback wanted for IRC suggestion
Post by: Mac the Slayer on July 22, 2005, 09:54:22 PM
Hey guys,

Thought I'd throw in my two san's worth...

I found a site two nights ago (Lyran Tal) where they play a medieval fantasy RP thru an AIM chatroom. No written character history etc. is required, just have these things in mind (in fact I didn't even set up an account, just clicked the AIM link and was in there.)

As they recommended, I only observed the first night and there was prolly 5 or 6 players posting. It looked like fun, so I started posting last night as there was only one person in the room when I arrived.

This went great, and a few minutes later a third person joined. Still was going great and having fun...for a while.

Iin the space of about 5 or 10 minutes, 6 or 8 other folks joined, and it went from being "relaxing fun" to more like trying to meet a quota on a fast moving assembly line.

I'm a fairly fast reader (most paperbacks last about 2 hrs), but not so good at typing (maybe 25-30 wpm on a good day), although typing wasn't the problem so much as trying to create a coherent thought before the page scrolled out of sight. Faster typists would have an obvious advantage though.

A deep story line becomes pretty much impossible IMO, and part of many posts require a note as to who the reply is addressed to unless it's just thrown out into the group. The whole thing becomes sort of a medieval chat room, except you must describe your actions as well (::chuckles::, ::takes a drink::, ::addresses Mr. X:: etc.).

Everyone was really nice and stayed in character (a tavern setting) and included me in the scenario, but it just became more work than fun on my part. If you're the kind of person that talks on the phone and watches TV while performing calculus and solving crossword puzzles, this might be just what you're looking for. ;)

My main concern for Santharia is that the play by post story boards  might suffer, because there is an "instant gratification" factor involved by doing anything in realtime. And I'd guess the best writers (lol, and typists) will be the ones most likely to enjoy this, and find themselves spending less time on "play by post".

And then there's the whole thing of moderating and being able to kick idiots as needed...

Still, I'm intrigued as to what you guys would create. Santheria is a class act IMO, and if you continue with this idea, I'm sure it will be as well. ;)

Cheers, Mac :)  

___________________________________
~ Mac the Slayer ~



Title: Re: Feedback wanted for IRC suggestion
Post by: Gararion on July 23, 2005, 09:30:22 AM
Kicking of idoits...well...seeing if we went with the moderated option, which is the way I'd like to go, I would hope that we wouldn't get too many idoits, as the players would have tooken the time to create a CD which will likely mean that they will be dedicated and interested players.  But if need be, the mods, or certain players given access to the kick command that I will work into the bot, can remove any players and their ability to speak (in IRC terms this is called Voice).



Title: Re: Feedback wanted for IRC suggestion
Post by: Rheine on July 23, 2005, 05:24:22 PM
Quote:
My main concern for Santharia is that the play by post story boards might suffer, because there is an "instant gratification" factor involved by doing anything in realtime. And I'd guess the best writers (lol, and typists) will be the ones most likely to enjoy this, and find themselves spending less time on "play by post".


Yup, definately.

IMO it's *much* funner than play-by-post, and it is much, much faster. Fact is, I tend to spend about 6 hours a day on chat-style RP, just straight RPing. I'm sure that's quite a bit more lucrative than typing out a post on Santharia, waiting half a week, and then replying.

In one 6 hour session of RP on a chat program, one can cover nearly a month of play-by-post RP.


My time here severly dampened when I joined a large RP community that RPs regularly on the game Star Wars Galaxies. Ask the people over at Thalambath's Heart just how slow I had come to posting.

I've since quit SWG though, hence why I'm around here more often now... though I do run an IRC Vampire: The Masquerade game, but we have scheduled sessions rather than just whoever shows up starts RPing. :)


*rambles and rambles and rambles*

I'm done.

It probably will slow down the PbP though, if it takes off well enough. And it is funner to RP, IMO, but that might not be everyone's piece of cake.


Big thing to note about when RPing with multiple people: JUST worry yourself about who you're directly RPing with. Ignore everyone else in the room. If something big enough happens on the other side of the room, you'll probably notice, but otherwise, you probably won't, just like a real life conversation.. you only care about who you're talking to, no one else.

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It's where she lies, broken inside,
With no place to go, no place to go
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Title: Re: Feedback wanted for IRC suggestion
Post by: Luca the Thief on July 24, 2005, 11:42:22 AM
I also agree that it would limit the PbP aspect of Santharia, in addition we'd have people coming in and making characters just for the chat. It is of course a personal preference, but I actually prefer the play by post. It seems a lot more organized, with more room for OOC planning and more elaborate plots. Plus, there is more room for writing development in the idea of skill when you're not rushed by impatient players.

Still, do we have enough player interest?


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Title: Re: Feedback wanted for IRC suggestion
Post by: Rheine on July 24, 2005, 11:46:22 AM
Same amount of organization can go into chat RP.

As I've said earlier, I run a chat-based RP thing.

We don't have it everyday, and have set times and hours. In the downtime, I plan out what's going to happen in the next session, and so on.


There's actually *more* planning involved if you RP it out as a controlled story form (rather than freeform whoever comes on at whatever time just RPs), as you have every session of RP planned out as much as possible to make sure there are enough things to carry the story forwards.

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"She wants to go home, but nobody's home
It's where she lies, broken inside,
With no place to go, no place to go
To dry her eyes, broken inside."
-Nobody's Home, Avril Lavigne



Title: Re: Feedback wanted for IRC suggestion
Post by: Ta'lia of the Seven Jewels on July 24, 2005, 09:40:22 PM
Hmm, I will surely come and try it out sometime - if it is running, but as I see - I'm not typing too fast - and I surely will miss the words I need or type them desprately wrong. I always do a spellcheck for my pbp. It depends a bit, how much time you have. don't know, if it would take so much time away from the bpb. Doesn't it become boring after some time as well? 'you can't go into depths like in the bpb, when you have more time.

don't know!

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Title: Re: Feedback wanted for IRC suggestion
Post by: Gararion on July 25, 2005, 05:13:22 AM
It all depends on the type of things you do.  If you do a totally free form thing, then it may, but perhaps people will gather and start their own story over IRC, then you'd get into as much depth as any PbP story and the pace would be faster, thus reducing the possibilities that a stopry will die out before it ends.