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Title: Scriabin/Rhulran Men-Erpheronian Men/Musician-Composer
Post by: Alexandre Scriabin on June 07, 2009, 12:35:12 PM
His two best portraits
(http://static.squidoo.com/resize/squidoo_images/-1/draft_lens1614363module12956131photo_1228784803Scriabin.jpg)

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Name-Alexandre Scriabin; most folks only address him using his surname.

Sex-Male

Age-53

Race-Human

Tribe-Rhulran Men/Erphoronian Men

Occupation
-Musician/Composer

Title-Music Adept

Hair Colour-Brownish Black

Eye Colour-Hazel Brown

Stature-1 Ped, 2 Fores, & 8 Nailsbreadths

Mass-1 Pygge, 5 Hebs, 1 Hafeb, 4 Ods, & 7 Muts

Physical Appearance-
Scriabin has an aristocratic handle bar mustache and a trimmed beard that doesn't cover his jaw line, just his chin. His hairline is beginning to recede, but in spite of his age, there are no wrinkles or blemishes to detract from his countenance. His hands are peculiarly large, but bony and thin, like hooks. This is mainly due to extensive practice, and the fact that he slept with wine corks between his fingers for quite some time. His skin is relatively pale in comparison to his people, thanks to his extended time indoors, mostly spent practicing on the miasma of instruments in his childhood home. His trot is brisk, efficient, maybe not altogether graceful but filled with intent, shoulders back, observant, and hips swaying ever so slightly, speaking volumes about his rigid self-control.

He is a little shorter than his native people, and is not necessarily an awesome image. Plenty a time has he gone without a meal, so he is on the thinner side. There are no impressive battle scars, no rippling muscles, no commanding or even mildly arresting features, just sturdy walking legs, and a worn out back. He finds it very much appropriate, as he wouldn't want any kind of preference from a person that he didn't earnestly deserve beforehand.

Clothing-
He wears an eggshell white undershirt of fine cotton, and a jet black aristocrat's coat of lightly oiled linen, with music notation embroidered upon the cuffs of his sleeves. Along with that he wears elegant silk pantaloons of the same hue as his coat. His plain, travel-worn boots are the only articles that may make it apparent that he is essentially without a home for the time being. They rise up right to the half-way mark of his shins.

Personality-
Scriabin is very conscious of the limitations of language and circumstance. Consequently, only when he deems it necessary or it is requested will he feel that speaking is prudent and effective.

There is no reasoning with him unless he has been misinformed prior to making a judgment, and as a result he hates to make excuses for anything.

He does whatever he is obligated to do if he must accomplish something, but he has different standards of success. It should be taken into account that he values nothing physical, and the very ideas of society, finances, and social interaction are naught but a sick joke to him. He is of the belief that The Creator conceived us all for a mutual relationship (far more grand than a mere social relationship) with him/her, and one another.

Facial expressions don't come so easy for him, so it is easy to misinterpret his attitude towards a situation. Because of this, his face isn't such a reliable source of social information. One wouldn't venture to say he didn't give a damn either way, but that he is withdrawn; Routinely preoccupied with studying people, their habits, insecurities, bashfulness, hate, and overall sense of antiquity. He is rather good at it, and that is where his intuition and persuasion skills stem from. He observes what subjects make a person perspire, what lights their desires, their remarkably low self esteem, what essences get them going, and he takes note of it all.

They are definitely more than a science experiment, mind you, he loves them to death. But, ironically: he can cure a person, sort out what clutters an individual's mind, but he is rarely disposed toward making his own opinions on life heard; unless he finds it prudent. Almost as if so very much careful study amounted to nothing.

Who knows? Maybe he doesn't even have any sense of self anymore; maybe his aspirations are a combination of all of ours? Is there really such a thing as too much selflessness?

His Religious Studies and Conclusions-

Ancestor Worship *He believes that one's ancestors should be revered and remembered, but not worshiped. There is no individual (excluding deities) that has come even close to earning something akin to worship. Those who are mortal have apparently earned death, not glory.

Deities *When an individual is fully enlightened, there is only one choice: either have perspective (good) or lack perspective (evil). He views the idea of many gods with different goals and opinions as silly and misguided. The only distinct parameters he can find is that there is bad and there is good. So obviously, there is no room for these other gods of power, sensuality, authority, humor, fertility, jealousy, etc. There isn't much reason in naming the two contradicting gods, so he doesn't.

Wisdom and its Sources *Within such a grand scope, would wisdom be rightfully confined to a little perspective, a little set of tales, or would wisdom be universal, and always applicable? There is nothing wrong with studying every religion, every culture, every set of philosophies. Each illustrates different points that one should consider.

Strengths-

Speaking Skills and Intentions *It should be noted that he is comparatively persuasive whenever it suits him. He has a strong grasp of language, and can appeal to people morally and logically. His actions are well thought out. Having already consulted himself on said matters, it is as simple as repeating the dialogue he had in his head.

Brilliance *He is remarkably intelligent, so it most definitely affects his decision making skills; and intuitiveness in the context of providing for himself. Subsequently, it is next to impossible to lie or trick him, he is excellent at solving riddles for people, and he can normally keep himself out of trouble if his goals aren't telling him to get himself into trouble.

Mentally Steadfast *Pain and other adversities that normally garner an emotion are filtered through and deliberated upon before he makes any response. The physical rules of the world of Caelereth still apply, so self preservation is given at least rational concern, but otherwise: His mind is a sanctuary impregnable to pain, discouragement, anger, panic, jealousy, gluttony, sloth, pride, and insecurity. He only either takes solace or grief in the things that are unconditional.

Musical Expert *If one were to observe and listen to his music, it would be rather apparent that he is an experienced composer and musician. His double stops, Pantheon leaps, scale progressions, and bravado with the Fíoelì and Fíoelà makes people exuberant, to say the least. When he isn't helping people, you would most assuredly find him playing music. And of course, this skill can make ends meet.

Literacy *His handwriting isn't exactly pristine (it's often mistaken for fancy penmanship), but he is proficient in both reading and writing in his native tongue, and many of the Santharian dialects he has encountered in his travels.

Weaknesses-
Frail from Age *However much resolve he has, he isn't very physically apt, for decades he hasn't done much of anything more strenuous than walking. It definitely has an effect on his health, seeing as he is more quickly short of breath. You really can't expect him to carry heavy loads, or do anything too considerably taxing, for he's an old man, after all.

Uncommon Perspective *People are often inclined to dislike, and maybe even hate him because of his different values, that they may even misconstrue as an utter lack of values. He doesn't hold anything physical as much of a priority, so if an acquaintance were to pine on and on about money troubles, Scriabin would definitely give a bit of a cold shoulder.

Wanderlust *In spite of him being able to manage himself financially, he never grasps firm ground for himself. What might be seen as a fatal flaw to others is that he holds no emotional value over money. He considers it a cold, lifeless idea that doesn't do anyone any bit of good. After all, the only thing that makes currency work is that the people put their faith in it; Otherwise a San would just be a shiny rock.

Excessively Obsessive *Scriabin is overly obsessive, and others can easily see that he has a hard time dropping things; and he has a few subjects that he can't stop thinking about: music, religion, philosophy, and studying mental functions.

Calm and Docile Towards a Conflict *A strict pacifist with a nonexistent temper, Scriabin simply does not harm people. Having a spine is seen as barbaric and useless to him; Anger does nothing more than to discredit, confuse, and hurt both the perpetrator and victim.

History-
He inherited his surname from his father, who had been born into nobility, yet his philosophical triumphs got the best of him and he left Sarvonia and his several estates, letting his petty family squabble over the land, and immigrated to the Nashrhuli desert in Aeruillin. After careful study of Rhual, it's down to earth culture, and admirable education centers such as the Hall of Arts, he spent a third of his money making himself a dwelling at about 350 paces from the Nashruli Oasis (between the Sveltash Desert and the Desert of Ysthalinth).

As soon as everyone had gotten wind of their new, well educated, friendly, and wealthy neighbor, he started receiving prospective brides and gifts that he almost couldn't refuse for fear of offending anyone.

From what the members of the community say (apparently no one can afford to have secrets in such a tightly knit culture), his mother and father met next to the well, as Mr. Scriabin was playing a lute piece based upon the Je note of the mid range Pantheon (octave). And seeing as there is almost nothing more sexy than a good sonata in Je minore, they just hit it off.

A few years later his wife was with child, so the man resolved to be a home educator for what he expected to be his greatest pupil yet. Scriabin was born not so long afterward, and displayed a staggering cognitive aptitude very early on. As a result, he began his education at 3, achieved extensive proficiency in 7 different instruments by the age of 12, and began going to bed with wine corks between his fingers to stretch them, and his current compositions under his pillow.

While he was waiting 6 years to come of age and run their plantation, he and his father realized more and more that people were the same everywhere. There simply wasn't enough individuals who could get past their worldly needs, and make use of themselves as intended upon creation. So he got consent and blessings from both his parents and left for the outlying world, letting his father try to set people's priorities straight in his home town while he was gone.

Upon reaching the fishing town of Nys, he crossed the seas into Brendolan, and wandered all throughout the province of Brendolan and into it's western neighbor Truban. This took the better part of a decade, and he observed and experienced climates ranging from the Ráhaz-Dáth Desert, Narfost Plain, and Sharadon Forests, to the Oasis of Nirmenith, Scattersand Shoals, and Cape Strata.

Having accumulated an understanding of the cultures and music from the cities of Thalambath, Uderza, Strata, Dasai, Varcopas, Bardavos, and Seraia, he decided he would have more merit to people on fresh new soil. Having made up his mind, he said goodbye to his longtime students and acquaintances, and began the trek north to the province of Manthria.

This new province was a great pleasure to him, such a variety of peoples and environments. He set his eyes upon everything from the Cloud Falls, the Broken Dream Gap, the Clendor Tower, the Auturian Woods, and the Mithral Mountains, to the Mistrash Keep, the Mossy Rocks Cove, the Shrine of Baveras, the Ravenwing Falls, and the Capital city of Marcogg.

All of these travel, thoughts, and practice stops, took him fifteen years to experience. After all of the rigorous practice and mind broadening landscapes and peoples, he concluded that he was ready to take on the world. So he did. He just wandered off in whatever direction felt right at the moment. Traveling with or without people, with or without directions, and with or without a purpose.

Belongings-
He owns both a Fíoelì (relatively small), and a Fíoelà (substantially larger). They are held up to the chin facing outwards, whilst the left hand rests upon the strings, and the right holding a horsehair bow that is tugged, ever so gently, across the strings to produce a sound. The left hand transitions across the strings to create difference in pitch, and normally the fingers waver to make something he calls "vibrato".

Besides his instruments, he has his single set of clothing, washed every so often to keep diseases away, a sparse quantity of currency on his person, a travel bag full of sheet music, dates for quick and easy sustenance, and religious texts for him to study (they vary depending upon the beliefs of the individuals in his current location).


Title: Re: Adam/Human/??? tribe
Post by: Arianna Kalias on June 07, 2009, 12:58:03 PM
Hi and welcome to Santharia!

I'm just going to point something out, you need to make your character and display name the same, so no one gets confused. This can be done by editing your settings in your profile.

Good luck and I hope to see you in the rpg soon!

 :D :D


Title: Re: Adam/Human/??? tribe
Post by: Seh'nara Celebrindal on June 07, 2009, 08:18:23 PM
Well, you can go here (http://www.santharia.com/startup_new/mainframe_rpg.htm). The icon for the compendium is the opened blank scroll at the top left corner. :)


Title: Re: Adam/Human/??? tribe
Post by: Kalína Dalá'isyrás on June 08, 2009, 03:12:22 AM
Alrighty Sue! A couple of things real quick:

1) Your username and character name should be the same. (Which Ari already pointed out)

2) Don't forget to put up the appropriate posticon to inform us of your progress.


Title: Re: Adam/Human/??? tribe
Post by: Valan Nonesuch on June 08, 2009, 03:17:39 AM
In my experience, the best thing to do when you're a human without an idea of what tribe to play is to play an Epheronian. They're a good catch-all human tribe.

On your instrument choice, assuming you want to travel, a cello would be heavy and hard to move around. It would also be slightly on the expensive side, so you'll have to worry about procuring one as part of your history.

Clavichords are a little (understatement) on the heavy side as well, and they might be a little too advanced for the setting we've got going here.


Title: Re: Adam/Human/??? tribe
Post by: Alexandre Scriabin on June 08, 2009, 06:12:06 AM
What manner of instruments are there in santharia that are similar to violas, cellos, fiddles, and violins?


Title: Re: Adam/Human/??? tribe
Post by: Kalína Dalá'isyrás on June 08, 2009, 06:18:26 AM
http://www.santharia.com/dev/index.php/topic,12901.0.html - an incomplete entry but is being worked on.


Title: Re: Adam/Human/??? tribe
Post by: Fidget on June 08, 2009, 06:43:24 AM
The Rhulran Tribe in Aeruillin have a fiddle so I would assume that they could be found on Sarvonia as well. Even if as an imported item. Sorry no real entry on it just a quick mention.


Title: Re: Adam/Human/??? tribe
Post by: Alexandre Scriabin on June 08, 2009, 11:38:53 AM
Thank you, I will commit to writing this cd in my spare time tomorrow.


Title: Re: Adam/Human/??? tribe
Post by: Alexandre Scriabin on June 09, 2009, 04:07:32 AM
Very interesting entry on the stringed instruments. I think i will wait for that to be complete to complete this cd. But let's do what we can for now.


Title: Re: Scriabin/Human/Rhulran Men
Post by: Alexandre Scriabin on June 09, 2009, 08:52:37 AM
I would like to hear your opinions on him before i type in his history, belongings etc. We wouldn't want to have to start it all over again because of his persona being altered. However much we like it or not we are the results of our history in an few specific ways...


Title: Re: Scriabin/Human/Rhulran Men
Post by: Kalína Dalá'isyrás on June 09, 2009, 10:18:10 AM
Well, the first thing I noticed was the format. Everything is all over the place and in a strange order. Easily fixed for everyone's reading ease.

Also, some of the words you use for description like "Quasi Russian", mean nothing here in Santharia, as there are no 'Russians' in this world ;) Find some fun adjectives to describe the unique mustache.

About the instrument entry, I wouldn't suggest waiting for it to be approved, as it may be awhile. I would be ok with you using the instruments even though unapproved/not onsite - as they are at least in the works and meant to be in the world.


Title: Re: Scriabin/Human/Rhulran Men
Post by: Alexandre Scriabin on June 09, 2009, 11:13:06 AM
Sweet. I guess i'll have to fix a few of those adjectives though...:undecided:
too bad so sad.


Title: Re: Scriabin/Human/Rhulran Men
Post by: Airyn on June 09, 2009, 07:08:12 PM
Hey Scriabin, just thought I'd point out a couple o' things...

1) You've got two "belongings" sections. You only need one  ;)

2) Your S&Ws need a bit of elaboration. About three sentences should be fine, but in some you explain their effect on your character and in others you don't.

3) Your history is a tad short. Try explaining some key points in his life - things that had a significant effect on him. Also, you need to say how his parents met as they are of different tribes and it's always a good story  ;)

4) Why not add a little creativity to his title? It's always fun to see what kinds of things people call themselves.

Well, I'm off. Good luck and I hope your approval comes quickly!


Title: Re: Scriabin/Human/Rhulran Men
Post by: Alexandre Scriabin on June 10, 2009, 12:58:22 AM
I'm on it!


Title: Re: Scriabin/Human/Rhulran Men
Post by: Alexandre Scriabin on June 10, 2009, 01:16:33 AM
Alrighty then! On to the next batch of critical comments. Bump...


Title: Re: Scriabin/Human/Rhulran Men
Post by: Deklitch Hardin on June 10, 2009, 05:02:45 PM
Hi Alexandre, oh sorry, I meant Scriabin, of course :D,

I'm here to give your CD a once over. I hope what i say is of help to you.

I'll make my comments in this colour or this colour and any corrections I think are needed in this colour.

Name-Alexandre Scriabin(he is normally addressed using his surname)

Sex-Male

Height-1 Ped, 2 Fores, 8 Nailsbreadths, & 3 Grains You only need to go as far as Nailsbreadths

Weight-1 Pygge, 5 Hebs, 1 Hafeb, 4 Ods, & 7 Muts

Eyes-Dark Brown

Age-53

Race-Human

Tribe-Rhulran Men/Erphorian Men Did you mean Erpheronian?


Occupation-Musician/Composer

Title-Child Prodigy

Hair Colour-Brownish Black

Physical Appearance-Scriabin has an aristocratic handle bar mustache and a trimmed beard that doesn't cover his jaw line, just his chin. His hairline is beginning to recede, but in spite of his age, there are no wrinkles or blemishes on his forehead. His hands are peculiarly large, but bony and thin, like hooks, as a result of him stretching them from the age of 8. His skin is relatively pale in comparison to his people, thanks to his extended time indoors practicing on the miasma of instruments in his childhood home. His trot is brisk, efficient, maybe not altogether graceful but filled with intent, shoulders back, observative, I didn't even know there was such a word as 'observative' and hips swaying ever so slightly, speaking volumes about his rigid self-control.

He is a little shorter than his native people, and is not necessarily an awesome image. Plenty a time has he gone without a meal, so he is on the thinner side. There are no interesting battle scars, no rippling muscles, no commanding or even mildly arresting features, just sturdy walking legs, and a worn out back.

Clothing-He wears an eggshell white undershirt(fine cotton), and a jet black aristocrat's coat(silk) embroidered with music notation on the cuffs. Along with that he wears elegant silk pantaloons of the same hue as his coat. His plain, travelworn boots are the only articles that may make it apparent that he is essentially without a home for the time being. They rise up right to the halfmark of his shins.

Personality-Adam is thoughtful, and because of said thoughtfulness would never classify himself to a person, seeing as words are always just plain inadequate. Only when it is necessary or requested will he clear his throat to utter anything. Because of this, he is not a Bard who is keen on tales, just music. There is no reasoning with him unless he has been misinformed prior to making a judgment, and as a result he hates to make excuses for anything. He does whatever he is obligated to do if he must accomplish something, but he has different standards of success. It should be taken into account that he values nothing physical, and the very ideas of society, finances, and social interaction are naught but a sick joke to him. Having been a child prodigy in music, the single two things he values are people and music.

It is rather rare that he shows much expression with his face. Because of this, you can only discern his emotions from his eyes. One wouldn't say he didn't give a damn either way, but that he is withdrawn, routinely preoccupied with studying people, their habits, insecurities, bashfulness, hate, and overall sense of antiquity. He is rather good at it, and that is where his intuition and persuasion skills stem from. He observes what subjects make a person perspire, what lights their desires, their remarkably low self esteem, what pheremones get them going, and he takes note of it all.

They are definitely more than a science experiment, mind you, he loves them to death. But you know, the most ironic thing of all is: he can cure a person, sort out what clutters their graymatter, but he is simply incapable of making his own emotions audibly heard. Somehow or another it will seem misconstrued to him, so he doesn't even let it escape his mouth.

Who knows? Maybe he doesn't even have any sense of self anymore, maybe his aspirations are a combination of all of ours? Is there really such a thing as too much selflessness?

Strengths-
*It should be noted that he is rather persuasive whenever it suits him. He has a strong grasp on language, and can make a person willing to do something not grudgingly, but because the person will actually morally agree with Scriabin's pursuits.
*He is remarkably intelligent, so it most definitely affects his decision making skills; and intuitiveness in the context of providing for himself. Subsequently, it is next to impossible to lie or trick him, he is excellent at solving riddles for people, and he can normally keep himself out of trouble if his goals aren't telling him to get himself into trouble.
*Not to be taken lightly is his willpower, as it is not very easy at all to deter him emotionally. Pain is seen as translucent stimulus to him, so it most assuredly not affect his morale, but of course, we all have our breaking points(that vary depending upon the urgency of the situation).
*The martial art of Leránta(native to Rhulrans) used to be a favorite hobby of his, yet he is still in the mediocre range as a result of his preoccupations. All of the young men of his people receive lessons in Leránta, but it obviously has been some time since he was a young lad. He doesn't see incapacitation as a hateful act, so it doesn't count as a sin. Simply put, has no qualms with subduing people. He is not quite efficient enough at countering sharp implements, so he remains elusive in those specific situations.

What about him playing music? I think that would need to be counted as a strength.

Weaknesses-
*However much resolve he has, he isn't very physically apt. It definitely has an effect on his health, seeing as he is more quickly short of breath.
*People are bound to dislike, and maybe even hate him because of his different values that they may misconstrue as an utter lack of values.
*In spite of him being able to manage himself financially, he never grasps firm ground for himself. You might say he has wanderlust.
*Scriabin is obsessive compulsive, and it becomes apparent to others as they see that he has a hard time dropping things, and that he has a few subjects that he can't stop thinking about(music, theology, philosophy, and psychology).

Belongings-He owns both a Fíoelì(relatively small), and a Fíoelà(substantially larger).
Here is a quote from our dear dev board describing these instruments. "The basics of playing the instruments from this family are the same. Any variation in style is from either size, style of music, or culture. A bow is drawn across the strings to create a continuous sound, which will last as long as the bow does not stop, even if its direction of movement is altered. At times, the strings may be plucked with the index finger from the bow hand, yet these instruments should never be strummed. The likelihood of strings breaking increases, and it causes the instrument to go greatly out of tune.

The neck is held in the left hand while the bottom is tucked firmly beneath the chin. Cloth or cushioning is sometimes placed at the end to protect the player’s neck and shoulder, especially if the instrument will be played for any great length of time. This cushion also serves as added grip to help hold the instrument place so it does not slide from its position while the musician is playing. The hand curves around the neck with the thumb and fingers facing one another from opposite sides. The thumb rests on the side of the neck while the fingers wrap around and lay with their tips upon the strings.

Held daintily in the right hand at end, the bow has one job, to rub its hairs on the strings to create noise."

Besides his instrument, he has his single set of clothing(washed often to keep diseases away), a sparse quantity of currency on his person, and travel bag with compositions, dates(quick and easy food if you weren't familiar with dates), and religious texts for him to study in his spare time(they vary depending upon the beliefs of the individuals in his current location).

The belongings section really needs to be below the History section, Scriabin.

History-He inherited his surname from his father, who had been born into nobility, yet his philosophical triumphs got the best of him and he left Sarvonia and his several estates(letting his petty family fight over the land), and immigrated to the Nashrhuli desert in Aeruillin. And wouldn't you know, seeing as he was still filthy rich, the more wealthy individuals in the community around the Oasis starting offering him women and engagement gifts. Of course, he said, "Why the hell not" and settled in with a middleclass women so that the aristocrats of the area wouldn't be bugging him for his money and reputation back home to help in their so called wretched existence in this so-called backwards place(which just so happens to be situated right next to a gorgeous oasis).

From what the members of their community say(no one can afford to have secrets in a small town), his mother and father met next to the well, as Mr. Scriabin was playing a lute piece in D minor. Seeing as there is almost nothing more sexy than a good sonata in D minor, they just hit it off.

I think you'll find that D minor and other such keys are not part of the world of Caelereth, Sciabin. On the Development Forum, there is a sticky thread about Music (http://www.santharia.com/dev/index.php/topic,11846.msg139434.html#msg139434) you may be interested in. I am not sure, but I believe that entry would provide you with more details on the Caelereth ways of notating music.

A few years later his wife was with child, so the man resolved to be a home educator for what he expected to be his greatest pupil yet. Scriabin was born not so long afterwards, and displayed a staggering cognitive aptitude very early on. As a result, he began his education at 3, received training in 21 different instruments by the age of 12, and began going to bed with wine corks between his fingers to stretch them, and his current compositions under his pillow.

While he was waiting 6 years to come of age and run their plantation, he and his father realized more and more that people were the same everywhere, so he got consent and blessings from both his parents and left for the outlying world, letting his father try to set people's priorities straight in his home town while he was gone.
Please try to split the above paragraph up into 2 or 3 sentences.

For 35 years after turning 18 and leaving home, he has been spreading self contentment, mutual support, religious concepts, and not to mention some damn fine music throughout the people he has come into contact with. It has been hard, as he is not one for excessive conversation (as i have mentioned earlier), but actions really do speak louder than words (who would think that nothing says i hate you more than poisoned cereal).

All in all it looks pretty good to me. I think a few commas are needed in a few places, and there was that one paragraph that needs to be split up into sentences. You may find that music link I gave you an interesting read.

I look forward to reading the way your CD develops, Sciabin.



Title: Re: Scriabin/Human/Rhulran Men
Post by: Alexandre Scriabin on June 11, 2009, 05:04:25 AM
Funny, even the spellcheck got mad at me for putting in "observative", but it's in the webster's and college dictionaries i have. Maybe proper English is dying out, but bah who cares...

I have finished editing the areas you detailed, thx. Bump...


Title: Re: Scriabin/Human/Rhulran Men
Post by: Deklitch Hardin on June 15, 2009, 03:51:19 PM
Hi Scriabin, me again, back to give you another look over :)

Once again, I'll make comments in this colour and any corrections I feel are necessary in this colour.

Name-Alexandre Scriabin(he is normally addressed using his surname)

Sex-Male

Stature-1 Ped, 2 Fores, & 8 Nailsbreadths

Mass-1 Pygge, 5 Hebs, 1 Hafeb, 4 Ods, & 7 Muts

Eyes-Dark Brown

Age-53

Ethnicity-Human

Tribe-Rhulran Men/Erphoronian Men

Occupation-Musician/Composer Just so that you are aware, we really like to see Name/Tribe/Occupation in the subject of CDs. So, in your case, that would probably be Scriabin / Rhulran Men-Erphoronian Men / Musician-Composer

Title-Child Prodigy

Hair Colour-Brownish Black

Don't forget his Eye Colour as well

Physical Appearance-
Scriabin has an aristocratic handle bar mustache and a trimmed beard that doesn't cover his jaw line, just his chin. His hairline is beginning to recede, but in spite of his age, there are no wrinkles or blemishes on his forehead. His hands are peculiarly large, but bony and thin, like hooks, as a result of him stretching them from the age of 8. His skin is relatively pale in comparison to his people, thanks to his extended time indoors practicing on the miasma of instruments in his childhood home. His trot is brisk, efficient, maybe not altogether graceful but filled with intent, shoulders back, observative, and hips swaying ever so slightly, speaking volumes about his rigid self-control.

He is a little shorter than his native people, and is not necessarily an awesome image. Plenty a time has he gone without a meal, so he is on the thinner side. There are no interesting battle scars, no rippling muscles, no commanding or even mildly arresting features, just sturdy walking legs, and a worn out back.

Clothing-
He wears an eggshell white undershirt(fine cotton), and a jet black aristocrat's coat(silk) embroidered with music notation on the cuffs. Along with that he wears elegant silk pantaloons of the same hue as his coat. His plain, travelworn boots are the only articles that may make it apparent that he is essentially without a home for the time being. They rise up right to the halfmark of his shins.

Personality-
Adam Where does Adam come from? I thought his first name was Alexandre. is thoughtful, and because of said thoughtfulness would never classify himself to a person, seeing as words are always just plain inadequate. Only when it is necessary or requested will he clear his throat to utter anything. Because of this, he is not a Bard who is keen on tales, just music. There is no reasoning with him unless he has been misinformed prior to making a judgment, and as a result he hates to make excuses for anything. He does whatever he is obligated to do if he must accomplish something, but he has different standards of success. It should be taken into account that he values nothing physical, and the very ideas of society, finances, and social interaction are naught but a sick joke to him. Having been a child prodigy in music, the single two things he values are people and music.

It is rather rare that he shows much expression with his face. Because of this, you can only discern his emotions from his eyes. One wouldn't say he didn't give a damn either way, but that he is withdrawn, routinely preoccupied with studying people, their habits, insecurities, bashfulness, hate, and overall sense of antiquity. He is rather good at it, and that is where his intuition and persuasion skills stem from. He observes what subjects make a person perspire, what lights their desires, their remarkably low self esteem, what pheremones I'm wondering whether pheremones would be too modern for Santharia get them going, and he takes note of it all.

They are definitely more than a science experiment, mind you, he loves them to death. But you know, the most ironic thing of all is: he can cure a person, sort out what clutters their graymatter, but he is simply incapable of making his own emotions audibly heard. Somehow or another it will seem misconstrued to him, so he doesn't even let it escape his mouth.

Who knows? Maybe he doesn't even have any sense of self anymore, maybe his aspirations are a combination of all of ours? Is there really such a thing as too much selflessness?

Strengths-
*It should be noted that he is rather persuasive whenever it suits him. He has a strong grasp of language, and can make a person willing to do something not grudgingly, but because the person will actually morally agree with Scriabin's pursuits.
*He is remarkably intelligent, so it most definitely affects his decision making skills; and intuitiveness in the context of providing for himself. Subsequently, it is next to impossible to lie or trick him, he is excellent at solving riddles for people, and he can normally keep himself out of trouble if his goals aren't telling him to get himself into trouble.
*Not to be taken lightly is his willpower, as it is not very easy at all to deter him emotionally. Pain is seen as translucent stimulus to him, so it most assuredly not affect his morale, but of course, we all have our breaking points(that vary depending upon the urgency of the situation).
*The martial art of Leránta(native to Rhulrans) used to be a favorite hobby of his, yet he is still in the mediocre range as a result of his preoccupations. All of the young men of his people receive lessons in Leránta, but it obviously has been some time since he was a young lad. He doesn't see incapacitation as a hateful act, so it doesn't count as a sin. Simply put, has no qualms with subduing people. He is not quite efficient enough at countering sharp implements, so he remains elusive in those specific situations.

*Just from a side glance or a casual session with him, it is apparent that he is a monumental composer and musician. His double stops, Pantheon leaps, scale progressions, and bravado with the Fíoelì and Fíoelà is sublime, to say the least. If need be, he can easily join an orchestra and make great money for a few nights. When he isn't helping people, you would most assuredly find him playing music.
Thanks for including a bit about the music as a strength. From the above paragraph, I can see you read through that entry I directed you towards as part of my previous review. Well done. If you were to leave a line space between each of your strengths, it would make it easier to tell when each strength starts and finishes.

Weaknesses-
*However much resolve he has, he isn't very physically apt. It definitely has an effect on his health, seeing as he is more quickly short of breath. You really can't expect him to carry heavy loads, or do anything too strenuous, for he's an old man, after all.
*People are bound to dislike, and maybe even hate him because of his different values that they may misconstrue as an utter lack of values.
*In spite of him being able to manage himself financially, he never grasps firm ground for himself. You might say he has wanderlust.
*Scriabin is obsessive compulsive, and it becomes apparent to others as they see that he has a hard time dropping things, and that he has a few subjects that he can't stop thinking about(music, theology, philosophy, and psychology).
My comment about the Strenghts (a linespace between each one also applies here)

History-
He inherited his surname from his father, who had been born into nobility, yet his philosophical triumphs got the best of him and he left Sarvonia and his several estates space in here please (letting his petty family fight over the land), and immigrated to the Nashrhuli desert in Aeruillin. And wouldn't you know, seeing as he was still filthy rich, the more wealthy individuals in the community around the Oasis starting offering him women and engagement gifts. Of course, he said, "Why the hell not" and settled in with a middleclass women so that the aristocrats of the area wouldn't be bugging him for his money and reputation back home to help in their so called wretched existence in this so-called backwards place space in here please (which just so happens to be situated right next to a gorgeous oasis).

From what the members of their community say space in here please (no one can afford to have secrets in a small town), his mother and father met next to the well, as Mr. Scriabin was playing a lute piece based upon the Je note of the mid range Pantheon space in here please If you wanted to be creative and give a name to the lute piece, that would be fine as well :D(octave). Seeing as there is almost nothing more sexy than a good sonata in Je minor, they just hit it off.  The way that you have Santharised this last paragraph is great! Well done!

A few years later his wife was with child, so the man resolved to be a home educator for what he expected to be his greatest pupil yet. Scriabin was born not so long afterwards, and displayed a staggering cognitive aptitude very early on. As a result, he began his education at 3, received training in 21 different instruments by the age of 12, and began going to bed with wine corks between his fingers to stretch them, and his current compositions under his pillow.Maybe consider breaking this last sentence up into 2?

While he was waiting 6 years to come of age and run their plantation, he and his father realized more and more that people were the same everywhere. So he got consent and blessings from both his parents and left for the outlying world, letting his father try to set people's priorities straight in his home town while he was gone.

For 35 years after turning 18 and leaving home, he has been spreading self contentment, mutual support, religious concepts, and not to mention some damn fine music throughout the people he has come into contact with. It has been hard, as he is not one for excessive conversation space in here please (as i have mentioned earlier), but actions really do speak louder than words space in here please (who wouldn't think that nothing says i hate you more than poisoned cereal )

Belongings-
He owns both a Fíoelì(relatively small), and a Fíoelà(substantially larger).
Here is a quote from our dear dev board describing these instruments. "The basics of playing the instruments from this family are the same. Any variation in style is from either size, style of music, or culture. A bow is drawn across the strings to create a continuous sound, which will last as long as the bow does not stop, even if its direction of movement is altered. At times, the strings may be plucked with the index finger from the bow hand, yet these instruments should never be strummed. The likelihood of strings breaking increases, and it causes the instrument to go greatly out of tune.

The neck is held in the left hand while the bottom is tucked firmly beneath the chin. Cloth or cushioning is sometimes placed at the end to protect the player’s neck and shoulder, especially if the instrument will be played for any great length of time. This cushion also serves as added grip to help hold the instrument place so it does not slide from its position while the musician is playing. The hand curves around the neck with the thumb and fingers facing one another from opposite sides. The thumb rests on the side of the neck while the fingers wrap around and lay with their tips upon the strings.

Held daintily in the right hand at end, the bow has one job, to rub its hairs on the strings to create noise."

Besides his instrument, he has his single set of clothing space in here please (washed often to keep diseases away), a sparse quantity of currency on his person, and travel bag with compositions, dates space in here please (quick and easy food if you weren't familiar with dates), and religious texts for him to study in his spare time space in here please (they vary depending upon the beliefs of the individuals in his current location).

Thank you for addressing the issues I raised last time, Scriabin. I can't see too much wrong with your CD. Just a few minor things that I mustn't have seen on the previous review.

Hope my comments are of help.


Title: Re: Scriabin/Rhulran Men-Erphoronian Men/Musician-Composer
Post by: Alexandre Scriabin on June 16, 2009, 01:46:23 AM
Thank you, i have addressed all of your topics now, Let's just hope for an approval or somesuch soon  ;)


Title: Re: Scriabin/Rhulran Men-Erphoronian Men/Musician-Composer
Post by: Kalína Dalá'isyrás on June 16, 2009, 02:14:41 PM
One thing which really bothers me, is the amount of stuff you have in parenthesis. Obviously it gives information, so find a way to add it without the use of parenthesis. It keeps the text cleaner.


Title: Re: Scriabin/Rhulran Men-Erphoronian Men/Musician-Composer
Post by: Alexandre Scriabin on June 18, 2009, 01:26:15 AM
I cut down the amount of parenthesis' and kept them only for side notes in the last sections. Thank you, i am finished editing. Bump...


Title: Re: Scriabin/Rhulran Men-Erphoronian Men/Musician-Composer
Post by: Mathis Mallister on June 18, 2009, 01:35:22 AM
Just my opinion: Seeing as your character is 53 years old by the time you'll be actually playing him, you might want to choose a different title. Your title is meant to sum up your character, and "Child Prodigy" just doesn't quite seem to fit a contestant for the board's "Best Facial Hair" award. :biggrin: Just what I saw at a glance.

Good luck and welcome to the board.


Title: Re: Scriabin/Rhulran Men-Erphoronian Men/Musician-Composer
Post by: Alexandre Scriabin on June 18, 2009, 01:41:24 AM
Got it. Thank you for the comment. Bump.


Title: Re: Scriabin/Rhulran Men-Erphoronian Men/Musician-Composer
Post by: Kalína Dalá'isyrás on June 18, 2009, 04:29:02 AM
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(who wouldn't think that nothing says i hate you more than poisoned cereal evil)

Not necessary in the CD :p

Beyond that, everything looks good and you have my ~First Approval~


Title: Re: Scriabin/Rhulran Men-Erphoronian Men/Musician-Composer
Post by: Alexandre Scriabin on June 18, 2009, 10:53:40 AM
All righty then.. Permission to feel somewhat stoked?  :cool:


Title: Re: Scriabin/Rhulran Men-Erphoronian Men/Musician-Composer
Post by: Rookie Brownbark on June 18, 2009, 05:30:34 PM
Feel away :P

Just a quick couple of things I'd like to see addressed before I give you my approval too:

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*People are bound to dislike, and maybe even hate him because of his different values that they may misconstrue as an utter lack of values.

Could you make this clearer?  I'm not sure what you mean as I had the impression that Scriabin was a fairly moral character.

Also, could you take out the quote from the board about your instruments?  The CD should really be all your own work...why not just link the words Fíoelì and Fíoelà to the entries (or entry) instead?

I would also quite like to see some particular reason why he decided to leave his family and move continents...doesn't have to be anything spectacular but it seems to me that this is a big decision and should have a reason.  I'm not sure what you mean by people being the same everywhere.


Title: Re: Scriabin/Rhulran Men-Erphoronian Men/Musician-Composer
Post by: Alexandre Scriabin on June 19, 2009, 02:38:12 AM
Thank you, it wouldn't be a cd if not for some final nitpicks. I have finished. Feeling stoked once again...  :cool:


Title: Re: Scriabin/Rhulran Men-Erphoronian Men/Musician-Composer
Post by: Rookie Brownbark on June 20, 2009, 02:03:44 AM
Ok...some of the typos in that bit are making me wince!  Go sort them out please?  And can you correct the spelling of Erpheronians in your title too.  Thanks.


Title: Re: Scriabin/Rhulran Men-Erpheroronian Men/Musician-Composer
Post by: Alexandre Scriabin on June 20, 2009, 02:44:24 AM
I think i've got it now. If i don't can you give some examples of the typos? Because, if so, i obviously don't know what to look for.


Title: Re: Scriabin/Rhulran Men-Erpheroronian Men/Musician-Composer
Post by: Rookie Brownbark on June 20, 2009, 03:07:10 AM
Sorry, when I said "that bit" I meant the bit you'd just added, should have made it clearer. This sentence ;)

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He doesn't hold anything physical as much of priority, so if an acquaintance where to give pine on about money troubles, Scriabin would definitely give a bit of a cold shoulder.


Title: Re: Scriabin/Rhulran Men-Erpheroronian Men/Musician-Composer
Post by: Alexandre Scriabin on June 20, 2009, 03:13:47 AM
All righty then, got it taken care of...


Title: Re: Scriabin/Rhulran Men-Erpheroronian Men/Musician-Composer
Post by: Rookie Brownbark on June 20, 2009, 03:16:34 AM
Congrats!

~ Second Approval~


Title: Re: Scriabin/Rhulran Men-Erpheroronian Men/Musician-Composer
Post by: Kalína Dalá'isyrás on June 20, 2009, 05:39:16 AM
Ok! Go ahead and remove the color so I can title and archive ya!


Title: Re: Scriabin/Rhulran Men-Erpheroronian Men/Musician-Composer
Post by: Alexandre Scriabin on June 20, 2009, 09:13:41 AM
Colors are gone, i'm ready freddy!


Title: Re: Scriabin/Rhulran Men-Erpheroronian Men/Musician-Composer
Post by: Kalína Dalá'isyrás on June 20, 2009, 12:39:19 PM
Titled and Archived!


Title: Re: Scriabin/Rhulran Men-Erpheronian Men/Musician-Composer
Post by: Kalína Dalá'isyrás on August 07, 2009, 03:32:16 AM
Bringing up for editing. Colour what you have changed so I know.


Title: Re: Scriabin/Rhulran Men-Erpheronian Men/Musician-Composer
Post by: Alexandre Scriabin on August 07, 2009, 06:01:22 AM
I have finished. Thx for bringing it out of the archives.


Title: Re: Scriabin/Rhulran Men-Erpheronian Men/Musician-Composer
Post by: Kalína Dalá'isyrás on August 07, 2009, 06:09:40 AM
Ok. Looks fine to me. Go ahead and clean up the colour and I can move it down for you.


Title: Re: Scriabin/Rhulran Men-Erpheronian Men/Musician-Composer
Post by: Alexandre Scriabin on August 07, 2009, 06:18:40 AM
Color cleaned up. And I didn't even have to break out a sponge...


Title: Re: Scriabin/Rhulran Men-Erpheronian Men/Musician-Composer
Post by: Kalína Dalá'isyrás on October 07, 2009, 05:11:48 AM
Going up!


Title: Re: Scriabin/Rhulran Men-Erpheronian Men/Musician-Composer
Post by: Alexandre Scriabin on October 07, 2009, 05:13:05 AM
Thank you. This won't take very long.


Title: Re: Scriabin/Rhulran Men-Erpheronian Men/Musician-Composer
Post by: Alexandre Scriabin on October 07, 2009, 05:23:08 AM
It has been finished with. With your approval, I'll get rid of the colors and we can archive it.


Title: Re: Scriabin/Rhulran Men-Erpheronian Men/Musician-Composer
Post by: Deklitch Hardin on October 07, 2009, 05:47:07 PM
It all looks fine to me, Alexandre!

Probably not needed, but here's a 1st approval for you, anyway.


Title: Re: Scriabin/Rhulran Men-Erpheronian Men/Musician-Composer
Post by: Kalína Dalá'isyrás on October 08, 2009, 03:18:03 AM
Nothing major changed. Go ahead and remove the colour so we can rearchive ya ^.^


Title: Re: Scriabin/Rhulran Men-Erpheronian Men/Musician-Composer
Post by: Alexandre Scriabin on October 09, 2009, 03:58:17 AM
The colors have been removed. Thank you for bringing it back out for a bit.


Title: Re: Scriabin/Rhulran Men-Erpheronian Men/Musician-Composer
Post by: Kalína Dalá'isyrás on October 09, 2009, 06:36:24 AM
You are most welcome, Alex.

Re-archived!


Title: Re: Scriabin/Rhulran Men-Erpheronian Men/Musician-Composer
Post by: Kalína Dalá'isyrás on December 13, 2009, 12:52:28 PM
Going up!


Title: Re: Scriabin/Rhulran Men-Erpheronian Men/Musician-Composer
Post by: Alexandre Scriabin on December 14, 2009, 08:13:25 AM
I'll be sure to do this quickly. Thanks, Kalina.


Title: Re: Scriabin/Rhulran Men-Erpheronian Men/Musician-Composer
Post by: Alexandre Scriabin on December 14, 2009, 08:24:11 AM
And that does it. Shall I remove the colors?


Title: Re: Scriabin/Rhulran Men-Erpheronian Men/Musician-Composer
Post by: Deklitch Hardin on December 14, 2009, 08:41:33 AM
No.

You need to give us a chance to read it through carefully first.

I've also changed your icon to the ! so that people know it needs a re-approval.


Title: Re: Scriabin/Rhulran Men-Erpheronian Men/Musician-Composer
Post by: Alexandre Scriabin on December 15, 2009, 03:15:33 AM
Yes, of course. Sorry about the misunderstanding.


Title: Re: Scriabin/Rhulran Men-Erpheronian Men/Musician-Composer
Post by: Valan Nonesuch on December 15, 2009, 12:02:04 PM
Name-Alexandre Scriabin; most folks only address him using his surname.

Sex-Male

Age-53

Ethnicity Race-Human

Tribe-Rhulran Men/Erphoronian Men

Occupation-Musician/Composer

Title-Music Adept

Hair Colour-Brownish Black

Eye Colour-Hazel Brown

Stature-1 Ped, 2 Fores, & 8 Nailsbreadths

Mass-1 Pygge, 5 Hebs, 1 Hafeb, 4 Ods, & 7 Muts

Physical Appearance-
Scriabin has an aristocratic handle bar mustache and a trimmed beard that doesn't cover his jaw line, just his chin. His hairline is beginning to recede, but in spite of his age, there are no wrinkles or blemishes to detract from his countenance. His hands are peculiarly large, but bony and thin, like hooks. This is mainly due to extensive practice, and the fact that he slept with wine corks between his fingers for quite some time. His skin is relatively pale in comparison to his people, thanks to his extended time indoors, mostly spent practicing on the miasma of instruments in his childhood home. His trot is brisk, efficient, maybe not altogether graceful but filled with intent, shoulders back, observant, and hips swaying ever so slightly, speaking volumes about his rigid self-control.

He is a little shorter than his native people, and is not necessarily an awesome image. Plenty a time has he gone without a meal, so he is on the thinner side. There are no impressive battle scars, no rippling muscles, no commanding or even mildly arresting features, just sturdy walking legs, and a worn out back. He finds it very much appropriate, as he wouldn't want any kind of preference from a person that he didn't earnestly deserve beforehand.

Clothing-
He wears an eggshell white undershirt of fine cotton, and a jet black aristocrat's coat of silk, with music notation embroidered upon the cuffs of his sleeves. Along with that he wears elegant silk pantaloons of the same hue as his coat. His plain, travel-worn boots are the only articles that may make it apparent that he is essentially without a home for the time being. They rise up right to the half-way mark of his shins. You mention that you only wash this clothing once in a while. I doubt it would have held up as well as you describe. White shirts unwashed do not stay white for one and silk is not a particularly practical traveling cloth. Insects like to eat silk if it's dirty, it breaks down if exposed to too much sun... I imagine you get the point.

Personality-
Scriabin is thoughtful; and because of said thoughtfulness would never classify himself to a person, seeing as words are always just plain inadequate. Only when he deems it necessary or it is requested will he feel comfortable enough to clear his throat and utter anything. Because of this, he is not a man who is so keen on poetry, just music. There is no reasoning with him unless he has been misinformed prior to making a judgment, and as a result he hates to make excuses for anything.

He does whatever he is obligated to do if he must accomplish something, but he has different standards of success. It should be taken into account that he values nothing physical, and the very ideas of society, finances, and social interaction are naught but a sick joke to him. He is of the belief that Ava conceived us all for a mutual relationship with her, and one another. Neither the Erpheronians nor the Rhulran believe or even credit the existence of Ava. The Erpheronians ignore the existence of Ava and Coor entirely in favour of the Twelve, while the Rhulran believe in the Aeoliran gods. You got some s'planin to do.

Facial expressions don't come so easy for him, so it is easy to misinterpret his attitude towards a situation.[SPACE][Because of this, youThis is a bit of a faux-pas. You aren't taking into account the individual capabilities of various NPCs and other characters. A mindsmoother for instance may be incredibly adept at reading people and wouldn't have to bother with eyes. Body language is an entire other layer of expression that you might not even be aware you're projecting. Think McFly! can only discern his emotions from his eyes with any certainty. One wouldn't say he didn't give a damn either way, but that he is withdrawn; Routinely preoccupied with studying people, their habits, insecurities, bashfulness, hate, and overall sense of antiquity. He is rather good at it, and that is where his intuition and persuasion skills stem from. He observes what subjects make a person perspire, what lights their desires, their remarkably low self esteem, what pheromonesNope. Wrong. Nada. Pheremones are well beyond the scope of Santharian understanding at present, so you'll want to drop that. get them going, and he takes note of it all.

They are definitely more than a science experiment, mind you, he loves them to death. But, ironically: he can cure a person, sort out what clutters an individual's mind, but he is rarely disposed toward making his own opinions on life heard; unless he finds it prudent. Almost as if so very much careful study amounted to nothing.

Who knows? Maybe he doesn't even have any sense of self anymore; maybe his aspirations are a combination of all of ours? Is there really such a thing as too much selflessness? When it gets you killed perhaps?

Strengths-
*It should be noted that he is rather persuasive whenever it suits him. He has a strong grasp of language, and can make a person willing to do something not grudgingly, but because the person will actually agree with Scriabin's pursuits on a moral level. This is missing a limitation. You're not some sort of all-powerful silver-tongued enchanter (figuratively speaking) of words. I doubt a lynch mob, or an angry would be stopped (at least not easily) by the most persuasive of people, let alone some fellow with a mustache. You're failing once again to take into account that you're not interacting with two-dimensional cut-outs but characters created and operated by other people. They might be just as resistant to persuasion as you are good at it.  And your own capability of language is going to limit this as much as anything else. If you write garbage and expect people to have their characters believe it because of this strength, I'd call it dumb.

*He is remarkably intelligent, so it most definitely affects his decision making skills; and intuitiveness in the context of providing for himself. Subsequently, it is next to impossible to lie or trick him, he is excellent at solving riddles for people, and he can normally keep himself out of trouble if his goals aren't telling him to get himself into trouble.

*Not to be taken lightly is his willpower, as it is not very easy at all to deter him emotionally. Pain is seen as translucent stimulus to him, so it most assuredly not affect his morale, but of course, we all have our breaking points (that vary depending upon the urgency of the situation). If I can ask for the sake of myself and others who might eventually have to read this that you... dumb down the psuedo-psychological language here. If you mean he has a high tolerance for pain or an ability to ignore it, it is better to outright say it rather than try to put it down to show off some sort of erudition. If someone can't understand it, odds are they won't take it into account.

*Upon first acquaintance, it is rather apparent that he is an experienced composer and musician. His double stops, Pantheon leaps, scale progressions, and bravado with the Fíoelì and Fíoelà makes people exuberant, to say the least. When he isn't helping people, you would most assuredly find him playing music. And of course, this skill can make ends meet.
Does he wear some item that proclaims him a composer? A hat, perhaps large and emblazoned with the title "masterful composer of music". Maybe made of fur? For every person who can take a cold read of you and tell you what you ate for breakfast, there's a dunce who wouldn't know a baker from a candlestick maker if he was standing in a pastry shop.

Weaknesses-
*However much resolve he has, he isn't very physically apt. It definitely has an effect on his health, seeing as he is more quickly short of breath. You really can't expect him to carry heavy loads, or do anything too strenuous, for he's an old man, after all.But he walks everywhere.

*People are bound to dislike, and maybe even hate him because of his different values, that they may even misconstrue as an utter lack of values. He doesn't hold anything physical as much of priority, so if an acquaintance were to  pine on and on about money troubles, Scriabin would definitely give a bit of a cold shoulder. You're ignoring other players here. Bound to implies that people must dislike. It's a bit like trying to shoehorn other people into a given role. A change of language might be in order here.

*In spite of him being able to manage himself financially, he never grasps firm ground for himself. You might say he has wanderlust. What might be seen as a fatal flaw to others is that he holds no emotional value over money. He considers it a cold, lifeless idea that doesn't do anyone any bit of good. After all, the only thing that makes currency work is that the people put their faith in it; Otherwise a San would just be a shiny rock.

*Scriabin is overly obsessive, and others can easily see that he has a hard time dropping things; and he has a few subjects that he can't stop thinking about: music, religion, philosophy, and psychology.Hold the phone here neighbour. Psychology is not a word to use. Religion isn't a thing to be studied either I would imagine.

*It is true that his people educate their youth in the martial art of Leranta, but Scriabin hasn't fought very much since then. He has lost just about every bit of skill he had in this art. Along with that, he is a strictly passive individual, so he is no help in a physical conflict whatsoever.

History-
He inherited his surname from his father, who had been born into nobility, yet his philosophical triumphs got the best of him and he left Sarvonia and his several estates, letting his petty family squabble over the land, and immigrated to the Nashrhuli desert in Aeruillin. And seeing as he was still pretty wealthy, the more wealthy individuals in the community around the Oasis Which one is this exactly. Placing it is important. starting offering him women and dowries. Of course, he was game for having a wife, so he settled in with a middle-class woman. As a result, the aristocrats The Rhulran tribe doesn't seem to have what you would call an aristocracy. of the area would no longer be bugging him for his money and reputation back home, to help in their so called "wretched existence" in this so-called "backwards place".
This doesn't seem to be a very Rhulran thing to do. By all accounts they seem to be friendly (the entry says as much) and hardworking (ditto).
From what the members of the community say (apparently no one can afford to have secrets in a small town), his mother and father met next to the well, as Mr. Scriabin was playing a lute piece based upon the Je note of the mid range Pantheon (octave). And seeing as there is almost nothing more sexy than a good sonata in Je minore, they just hit it off.

A few years later his wife was with child, so the man resolved to be a home educator for what he expected to be his greatest pupil yet. Scriabin was born not so long afterward, and displayed a staggering cognitive aptitude very early on. As a result, he began his education at 3, received training in 21 different instruments by the age of 12,This seems... implausible, to be fair. A child, as brilliant as they might be, does not have the time nor the skill to learn that many instruments in this time span.began going to bed with wine corks between his fingers to stretch them, and his current compositions under his pillow.

While he was waiting 6 years to come of age and run their plantation, he and his father realized more and more that people were the same everywhere. There simply wasn't enough individuals who could get past their worldly needs, and make use of themselves as intended upon creation. So he got consent and blessings from both his parents and left for the outlying world, letting his father try to set people's priorities straight in his home town while he was gone.

For 35 years after turning 18 and leaving home, he has been spreading self contentment, mutual support, religious concepts, and not to mention some damn fine music throughout the people he has come into contact with. It has been hard, as he is not one for excessive conversation, as i have mentioned earlier, but actions really do speak louder than words.These two paragraphs seem like quite a bit of philisophical "stuff" and don't explain much about the actual "history". Remember, the idea here is to explain how you got to Sarvonia where things are happening. At the moment, you aren't. You've lived 35 years since then. Even a quick rundown of places Scriabin has been and a more in depth idea of how he got to Sarvonia would be appropriate here.

Belongings-
He owns both a Fíoelì (relatively small), and a Fíoelà (substantially larger). They are held up to the chin facing outwards, whilst the left hand rests upon the strings, and the right holding a horsehair bow that is tugged, ever so gently, across the strings to produce a sound. The left hand transitions across the strings to create difference in pitch, and normally the fingers waver to make something he calls "vibrato".

Besides his instruments, he has his single set of clothing, washed every so often to keep diseases away, a sparse quantity of currency on his person, a travel bag full of sheet music, dates for quick and easy sustenance, and religious texts for him to study (they vary depending upon the beliefs of the individuals in his current location).I've mentioned earlier that religion wouldn't be a thing you study. The important question here is, how one would procure such "texts" and of what variety they would be. If you're talking treatises on the nature of the Twelvern relgion or the way the Kuglimz revere their ancestors? Not likely.

It seems decidedly lacking Alex. You've got work to do. And research it would appear.


Title: Re: Scriabin/Rhulran Men-Erpheronian Men/Musician-Composer
Post by: Azhira Styralias on December 15, 2009, 12:42:14 PM
Sorry to poke my head in like this Valan, but some of your comments need clarification.

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Neither the Erpheronians nor the Rhulran believe or even credit the existence of Ava. The Erpheronians ignore the existence of Ava and Coor entirely in favour of the Twelve, while the Rhulran believe in the Aeoliran gods. You got some s'planin to do.

You are correct about the Rhulran. They worship the Aeoliran gods, however, they are familiar with Ava and her Dream myth, but only as legends. As a people, they do not give serious credence to Ava's belief. Speaking of Coor, he is a more visible "god" in Sarvonia, moreso than Ava. Coor embodies evil and darkness. He has a special avatar that is born every so often in the mortal world. There are clerics of Coor in existence (as opposed to Ava, who has no such clerics.) Essentially, Coor is not so abstract and unknown as you might think!

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Think McFly!

Stick to the facts and relevant comments, please.  ;)

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*Scriabin is overly obsessive, and others can easily see that he has a hard time dropping things; and he has a few subjects that he can't stop thinking about: music, religion, philosophy, and psychology.Hold the phone here neighbour. Psychology is not a word to use. Religion isn't a thing to be studied either I would imagine.

Why wouldn't he study religion? Religious studies happen all the time, in many areas of Caelereth. Sarvonia does have schools, you know. Also, there is such a thing as Psychology, but under different terms. Think medieval here. The gnomes are proficient doctors and provide counsel for the mind as well as body. Perhaps "counselor" would be a better fit?

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As a result, he began his education at 3, received training in 21 different instruments by the age of 12,This seems... implausible, to be fair. A child, as brilliant as they might be, does not have the time nor the skill to learn that many instruments in this time span.

I would agree this needs explanation a bit. You may not have been "proficient" in all 21 instruments, but if you learned to play at least one or two chords on 19 of those instruments, with mastery of only two by age 12, then its ok. Do we even have 21 types of instruments in Santharia??  :shocked:

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.I've mentioned earlier that religion wouldn't be a thing you study. The important question here is, how one would procure such "texts" and of what variety they would be. If you're talking treatises on the nature of the Twelvern relgion or the way the Kuglimz revere their ancestors? Not likely.

Religious texts wouldn't be hard to come by. I am not sure where you get the idea that religion wouldn't be something someone would study. The Twelvern worshipers do have temples all over Santharia. Just because the cosmology stuff is not entirely developed (ok its a mess atm) doesn't mean it doesn't exist.  :pet:

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*It is true that his people educate their youth in the martial art of Leranta, but Scriabin hasn't fought very much since then. He has lost just about every bit of skill he had in this art. Along with that, he is a strictly passive individual, so he is no help in a physical conflict whatsoever.

This does not really count as a weakness. Most commoners couldn't fight their way out of a paper bag. So having no fighting ability is about normal for many people.


Title: Re: Scriabin/Rhulran Men-Erpheronian Men/Musician-Composer
Post by: Alexandre Scriabin on January 01, 2010, 05:38:36 PM
Sorry for not seeing these before. However, if it doesn't seem disrespectful or distasteful, I'd like to delve into a few points with Valan:


First and foremost, when it comes to religious study, it's more dependent on the passion of the individual than a simple lack of resources. I can tell you it wasn't easy to get as nice a copy of the Quran as I've acquired, nor is it easy to get your hands on Vedic (hindustani) Scriptures in the Americas, nor is it easy with: the talmud, taoism, zoroastrianism, punjabii, and the Hebrew and Greek versions of the bible. It's been nigh impossible to do, but I've collected these things. And I'm not very wealthy, nor do I have enormous natural talent in studying language, history, and ancient ideals, etc. How have I done it all? I've pushed my nose down hard into a good book whenever time permitted me.

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He wears an eggshell white undershirt of fine cotton, and a jet black aristocrat's coat of silk, with music notation embroidered upon the cuffs of his sleeves. Along with that he wears elegant silk pantaloons of the same hue as his coat. His plain, travel-worn boots are the only articles that may make it apparent that he is essentially without a home for the time being. They rise up right to the half-way mark of his shins. You mention that you only wash this clothing once in a while. I doubt it would have held up as well as you describe. White shirts unwashed do not stay white for one and silk is not a particularly practical traveling cloth. Insects like to eat silk if it's dirty, it breaks down if exposed to too much sun... I imagine you get the point.

Well said. I'll be sure to elaborate more, and thanks for that one.

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Facial expressions don't come so easy for him, so it is easy to misinterpret his attitude towards a situation.[SPACE][Because of this, youThis is a bit of a faux-pas. You aren't taking into account the individual capabilities of various NPCs and other characters. A mindsmoother for instance may be incredibly adept at reading people and wouldn't have to bother with eyes. Body language is an entire other layer of expression that you might not even be aware you're projecting. Think McFly! can only discern his emotions from his eyes with any certainty.

Aren't we comparing our characters to uneducated and unskilled peasants? Of course there may be exceptions, but more commonly this ability is rather useful. It doesn't seem so improbable of a thing.

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*Not to be taken lightly is his willpower, as it is not very easy at all to deter him emotionally. Pain is seen as translucent stimulus to him, so it most assuredly not affect his morale, but of course, we all have our breaking points (that vary depending upon the urgency of the situation). If I can ask for the sake of myself and others who might eventually have to read this that you... dumb down the psuedo-psychological language here. If you mean he has a high tolerance for pain or an ability to ignore it, it is better to outright say it rather than try to put it down to show off some sort of erudition. If someone can't understand it, odds are they won't take it into account.

As for that contention: I'm a little confused with it. Are we not in an RP board where exciting and creative writing (that is aesthetically pleasing) is the ultimate goal, and a good portion of the fun we have here? I believe that many others on this site would agree that there isn't anything wrong with a bit of engaging word-use and verbiage. Do you really expect people to restrict their vocabulary in a board made for writing?

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A few years later his wife was with child, so the man resolved to be a home educator for what he expected to be his greatest pupil yet. Scriabin was born not so long afterward, and displayed a staggering cognitive aptitude very early on. As a result, he began his education at 3, received training in 21 different instruments by the age of 12,This seems... implausible, to be fair. A child, as brilliant as they might be, does not have the time nor the skill to learn that many instruments in this time span.began going to bed with wine corks between his fingers to stretch them, and his current compositions under his pillow.

That's actually very plausible. Tchaikovsky could sight-read music as well as his composition teacher at age 5. Alkan finished paraphrasing the entire bible into music by the time he was 23 (he even translated a few original Hebrew and Greek versions into Latin and French! :shocked: ). Scriabin learned (fairly proficiently) nearly every western instrument (that is, the symphonic ones), and several Indian instruments, by the time he was 11. I'm no great prodigy, and I played about 15 different instruments by the time I was 13. Keep in mind that mastery over music is not so much of an achievement as it is a lifestyle. For a child (and everyone else, of course), learning to read music is the same as learning to read from a book, to write, mastering math, becoming well rounded in history. If you find yourself doing it all the time, not even the sky is the limit.

Contrary to my little disagreements here and there, I really appreciate the comments from both of you, and I'm definitely not against you (really I'm on your side). This cd needs a fair amount of work done. Thanks for offering up your time of day just for me.


Title: Re: Scriabin/Rhulran Men-Erpheronian Men/Musician-Composer
Post by: Kalína Dalá'isyrás on January 02, 2010, 05:31:19 AM
Hey Alex, I am gonna pop in and back up a few comments made:

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As for that contention: I'm a little confused with it. Are we not in an RP board where exciting and creative writing (that is aesthetically pleasing) is the ultimate goal, and a good portion of the fun we have here? I believe that many others on this site would agree that there isn't anything wrong with a bit of engaging word-use and verbiage. Do you really expect people to restrict their vocabulary in a board made for writing?

Yes, it is a place to do so, but keep in mind who has to read and understand it. This isn't a place for you just to try and show off vocabulary. If we don't understand it, we are going to call you out on it and make you change it so it is understandable. Not everyone is of a high vocabulary, so when they have to constantly look up words, it really turns off the interest. I expect people to restrict vocabulary within the realms of understanding. This isn't a professional writing place, it is fantasy, so your audience is much different. Whenever you write, you must keep your audience in mind.
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That's actually very plausible. Tchaikovsky could sight-read music as well as his composition teacher at age 5. Alkan finished paraphrasing the entire bible into music by the time he was 23 (he even translated a few original Hebrew and Greek versions into Latin and French! Shocked ). Scriabin learned (fairly proficiently) nearly every western instrument (that is, the symphonic ones), and several Indian instruments, by the time he was 11. I'm no great prodigy, and I played about 15 different instruments by the time I was 13. Keep in mind that mastery over music is not so much of an achievement as it is a lifestyle. For a child (and everyone else, of course), learning to read music is the same as learning to read from a book, to write, mastering math, becoming well rounded in history. If you find yourself doing it all the time, not even the sky is the limit.

My main problem is the availability of the instruments in Santharia. You seem to not quite understand the differences of this world and the real world. They aren't exactly comparable! I am also against such a level of instrument learning, as there aren't many instruments with an entry as you claim to know how to play! Just because earth has it, doesn't mean the world of Caelereth has it! Also, the amount of time people spend on simply *surviving* in this world is much greater than it is today on an average basis. You are trying too hard to try and take Terran concepts and ideals, and shove them into this one. You need to realize you can't exactly do this! Caelereth isn't a fantasied Earth, it is much more than what you have limited yourself into believing, but it doesn't mean the things which happen rarely on Earth, will happen at all here. I would like to see you tone down the instruments, for the reasons I stated above. Reading music isn't the same as playing music, which certainly isn't the same as reading a book. I am not ignorant to the possibilities, but there are things which are limited in this world and things which are not transferable from Earth to Caelereth.


Title: Re: Scriabin/Rhulran Men-Erpheronian Men/Musician-Composer
Post by: Alexandre Scriabin on January 02, 2010, 08:05:36 AM
Thank you for clarifying. I'll be sure to tone down the number to something more ideal.

As for the vocabulary contention, I guess I didn't realize I was taking it a little too far. That's what we get for trying to be specific. I'll be sure to fix that too.


Title: Re: Scriabin/Rhulran Men-Erpheronian Men/Musician-Composer
Post by: Alexandre Scriabin on January 07, 2010, 06:03:04 PM
It's finished, or at least I believe it is. I hope it is a pleasure to read for you folks.


Title: Re: Scriabin/Rhulran Men-Erpheronian Men/Musician-Composer
Post by: Azhira Styralias on January 12, 2010, 02:40:28 AM
Alex,

I do not see that all of my comments were addressed, just Valan's. For example, your last weakness.


Title: Re: Scriabin/Rhulran Men-Erpheronian Men/Musician-Composer
Post by: Alexandre Scriabin on January 12, 2010, 03:24:19 AM
Oh, sorry about that. I'll take care of it right away.


Title: Re: Scriabin/Rhulran Men-Erpheronian Men/Musician-Composer
Post by: Alexandre Scriabin on January 12, 2010, 03:27:07 AM
Actually, this was my answer to that:
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Calm and Docile Towards a Conflict *A strict pacifist with a nonexistent temper, Scriabin simply does not harm people. Having a spine is seen as barbaric and useless to him; Anger does nothing more than to discredit, confuse, and hurt both the perpetrator and victim.

I hope it was adequate.


Title: Re: Scriabin/Rhulran Men-Erpheronian Men/Musician-Composer
Post by: Sylvia Palinor on January 13, 2010, 09:09:44 AM
I've changed you back to the pencil icon until you're done. :)


Title: Re: Scriabin/Rhulran Men-Erpheronian Men/Musician-Composer
Post by: Alexandre Scriabin on January 13, 2010, 12:23:41 PM
???? I was under the impression that I was ready for more comments, as I had been clear as to my answer on Azhira's comment. If I'm not ready, than feel free to correct me. As always, no offense intended :thumbup:


Title: Re: Scriabin/Rhulran Men-Erpheronian Men/Musician-Composer
Post by: Deklitch Hardin on January 14, 2010, 12:20:29 PM
Hi Alexandre,

I really like what you've done with the history section in which you've mentioned all the various cities and landforms he has seen/visited.

I've just got a couple of comments/questions related to the part you have included on 'His Religious Studies and Conclusions'. I've repeated that below for ease of reference.

Most of my questions are just curiousities about your CD.

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His Religious Studies and Conclusions-

Ancestor Worship *He believes that ones ancestors should be revered and remembered, but not worshiped. There is no individual (excluding deities) that has come even close to earning something akin to worship. Those who are mortal have apparently earned death, not glory.

Deities *When an individual is fully enlightened, there is only one choice: either have perspective (good) or lack perspective (evil). He views the idea of many gods with different goals and opinions as silly and misguided. The only distinct parameters he can find is that there is bad and there is good. So obviously, there is no room for these other gods of power, sensuality, authority, humor, fertility, jealousy, etc. There isn't much reason in naming the two contradicting gods, but Ava and Coor seem like good enough defaults to him.

1) In Ancestor Worship ... I believe it should be He believes that one's ... with the apostrophe before that 's' rather than without the apostrophe.

2) Is that solely from his Erpheronian perspective or from his Rhulran perspective as well? Or did he mainly just consider himself as an Erpheronian who was raised with Erpheronian perspectives? Does he consider the Rhulran perspective of such things in his religious studies?

Edit: This one seems to have been addressed somewhat by Azhira.

3) Unless I'm mistaken (and I'm sure I'll be corrected by Azhira/Kalina/someone else if I am mistaken with this) Ava and Coor are Styrash gods, not ones that humans from Caelereth would necessarily know about.

Edit: This one seems to have been addressed by Azhira when Valan asked it previously.

Another quote from your CD follows ... this time from your possessions

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religious texts for him to study (they vary depending upon the beliefs of the individuals in his current location).

4) In light of the above quote ... I'm not sure if I've missed it or not, but I can't seem to find any indication of where he picked up reading. I've read through your history as well as your strengths ... and can't see it. Maybe you could enlighten me on that?

5) Also, if he only considers concepts of Good and Evil with respect as being deities (Ava and Coor), why would he be carting around religious texts based on the beliefs of the individuals in his current location. If he is wandering through Santharia, surely those texts would be based on the twelve? Why would he have those texts with him if he doesn't believe in the deities they are by/about?

EDIT: The last part of this 5) already seems to have been asked by Valan/addressed by Azhira.

EDIT: I've now looked back through previous comments, and have seen that some of my questions have already been asked and addressed. I've put them in a different colour as a result. Feel free to address them if you'd like to


Title: Re: Scriabin/Rhulran Men-Erpheronian Men/Musician-Composer
Post by: Alexandre Scriabin on January 16, 2010, 01:12:48 PM
Hi Alexandre,

I really like what you've done with the history section in which you've mentioned all the various cities and landforms he has seen/visited.

I've just got a couple of comments/questions related to the part you have included on 'His Religious Studies and Conclusions'. I've repeated that below for ease of reference.

Most of my questions are just curiousities about your CD.

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His Religious Studies and Conclusions-

Ancestor Worship *He believes that ones ancestors should be revered and remembered, but not worshiped. There is no individual (excluding deities) that has come even close to earning something akin to worship. Those who are mortal have apparently earned death, not glory.

Deities *When an individual is fully enlightened, there is only one choice: either have perspective (good) or lack perspective (evil). He views the idea of many gods with different goals and opinions as silly and misguided. The only distinct parameters he can find is that there is bad and there is good. So obviously, there is no room for these other gods of power, sensuality, authority, humor, fertility, jealousy, etc. There isn't much reason in naming the two contradicting gods, but Ava and Coor seem like good enough defaults to him.

1) In Ancestor Worship ... I believe it should be He believes that one's ... with the apostrophe before that 's' rather than without the apostrophe.

2) Is that solely from his Erpheronian perspective or from his Rhulran perspective as well? Or did he mainly just consider himself as an Erpheronian who was raised with Erpheronian perspectives? Does he consider the Rhulran perspective of such things in his religious studies?

Edit: This one seems to have been addressed somewhat by Azhira.

3) Unless I'm mistaken (and I'm sure I'll be corrected by Azhira/Kalina/someone else if I am mistaken with this) Ava and Coor are Styrash gods, not ones that humans from Caelereth would necessarily know about.

Edit: This one seems to have been addressed by Azhira when Valan asked it previously.

Another quote from your CD follows ... this time from your possessions

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religious texts for him to study (they vary depending upon the beliefs of the individuals in his current location).

4) In light of the above quote ... I'm not sure if I've missed it or not, but I can't seem to find any indication of where he picked up reading. I've read through your history as well as your strengths ... and can't see it. Maybe you could enlighten me on that?

5) Also, if he only considers concepts of Good and Evil with respect as being deities (Ava and Coor), why would he be carting around religious texts based on the beliefs of the individuals in his current location. If he is wandering through Santharia, surely those texts would be based on the twelve? Why would he have those texts with him if he doesn't believe in the deities they are by/about?

EDIT: The last part of this 5) already seems to have been asked by Valan/addressed by Azhira.

EDIT: I've now looked back through previous comments, and have seen that some of my questions have already been asked and addressed. I've put them in a different colour as a result. Feel free to address them if you'd like to

Thank you for your poignant observations, my friend.

I wasn't specific enough about a few things, and really did little more than hint at things that were central to his perspective.

The foremost point: Yes, he is rather well read. I will add that as a strength and realize now that it was dimwitted of me to assume that it goes without saying.

In response to number two, he doesn't necessarily just act like or identify with Erpheronians and/or Rhulrans. One of his most important traits is that he is a product of logic, not his environment. He identifies with people in general, and is endlessly inquisitive and sympathetic towards any and all conscious entities.

He doesn't have any prejudice within him not only because of simpler cliches we tend to identify with on the matter, rather that he can't find any reason anything at all is superior or inferior to anything else. It's all just relative and symbolic to him.

As for number three, the problem is that I'm dumb, but I'm not stupid. I should have recognized this one. :D I really think it would be more appropriate if he didn't give either of them a name. Words are such simple, subjective, and barbaric things anyways.  :cool:

As for number five, he has a strong passion for religion, and isn't picky when it comes to scriptures. Wisdom can be found in a creek, in a tree hollow, under a bridge, lying on the road, in a savage man's hands. Who is he to assume that such a thing as wisdom is confined to any location? I'll elaborate upon that in his personality.

Also, yes, most likely they would be based upon the twelve. But that doesn't necessarily rule out the possibility of anything else. It seems best to keep the wording that's already there.


Title: Re: Scriabin/Rhulran Men-Erpheronian Men/Musician-Composer
Post by: Alexandre Scriabin on January 18, 2010, 06:45:51 AM
I've finished with the comments, or least I think I have.


Title: Re: Scriabin/Rhulran Men-Erpheronian Men/Musician-Composer
Post by: Azhira Styralias on January 20, 2010, 11:18:16 PM
I think Alex is ready for approval. He has worked hard on this CD and it looks balanced to me. The religious beliefs are more humanistic then the norm, but that's ok. Personally, I do not see how such a person could fit in well in a Santharian setting. His views would be quite different, and he makes this a weakness, as appropriate. This is not so much as a "fantasy" type character to me, but more of a philosopher in the likes of Voltaire or someone similar. That's ok too.  :thumbup:

First Re-Approval :nod:


Title: Re: Scriabin/Rhulran Men-Erpheronian Men/Musician-Composer
Post by: Alexandre Scriabin on January 21, 2010, 03:49:50 AM
Thank you. And you hit it right on the mark. I was going for a kind of Enlightenment period philosopher in Santharia, so to speak.


Title: Re: Scriabin/Rhulran Men-Erpheronian Men/Musician-Composer
Post by: Deklitch Hardin on January 21, 2010, 06:17:03 AM
And I agree with Azhira ... it seems balanced to me as well, and so here's a 2nd Re-Approval.

So, please remove those colours, and we can get it down into the archives for you,Alexandre.

Dek


Title: Re: Scriabin/Rhulran Men-Erpheronian Men/Musician-Composer
Post by: Alexandre Scriabin on January 21, 2010, 08:20:31 AM
They have been removed. Thank you for helping me finally perfect this.


Title: Re: Scriabin/Rhulran Men-Erpheronian Men/Musician-Composer
Post by: Kalína Dalá'isyrás on January 21, 2010, 10:45:56 AM
Ok, taking you back down then.  :evil: