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Title: The War of the Blood
Post by: NecroMage on July 14, 2009, 12:48:26 AM
The War of The Blood

Greetings Puny Mortals! I want to make a story. It's an idea I had with Bahran years ago and would finally like to revisit. The following has been primarily and shamelessly copied and pasted from that original post:

The History

First off, I strongly suggest that you read the history of the War of the Blood, which can be found on the main site (The War of the Blood (http://www.santharia.com/history/age_of_the_blood.htm#SW_1)).

A basic sum up of the War will be available below:

Battle of Annihilation at the Zeiphyrian Forests (806 b.S.) – The human forces (consisting of most of the human tribes and the dwarves) assault the Elven fortress of Elving, south of the Zeiphyrian Forests. After several months of fighting, Elving was destroyed and most of the Zeiphyrian Forests as well as the Auturian Woods were burnt.

The First Great Flood (804  b.S.) – Due to the deforestation by the humans in an attempt to reach Elving faster, most of the Zeiphyrian Forests were completely cleared. Heavy rains came and the Thaevelvil River was flooded. The rain continued for three weeks, and the flood took a further two to subside. The flood swept away everything in its path.

The Curse of Fire (800 b.S.) – The elven prince Tacunija was murdered by Helcrani rogues. As he died, Tacunija cursed his killers and their people always to fight among each other and to be rewarded for the crime by fire. This was the Curse of Fire, sealed by three explosions erupting from the Hèckra. The elves attacked the Helcrani in retaliation and the Helcrani retreated to the dwarves in the Eastern Fores Mountains. The dwarves accepted them because of their hatred for the elves.

The Second Great Flood (796 b.S.) - The second flood occurred in much the same way as the first, but affected a slightly lesser area. It cleared the last remaining fragments of forest around the river banks, cleaving the Quallian from the main branch of the forest.

Ambush at the Xythrian Ridge (789 b.S.)
– Diraton, the captain of the cavalry of a small division belonging to the human tribe of the Centoraurians, is captured. He knows the location of a large human force, and the elves try to get the information from him. He pretends to lead them to the army, but instead sacrifices himself by running off a cliff, taking many unsuspecting elves with him. The place of this incidence was later on called the Elvenfall.

The Siege and the Fall of Ximax (777-773 b.S.)
– The dark elves from the Shivering Woods lay siege to the peninsula where Ximax is, an important location for the humans. The siege lasted four years, as the peninsula is surrounded by the massive Zirkumire Mountains and can only be reached through a small passage which was easily defended by the human army of magicians residing at the peninsula near Ximax. As the food rations finally started running low, the Ximaxian army was forced to leave the defending towers more often than at the beginning of the siege. The human army was caught in a trap by the elven mages and was nearly completely destroyed. They surrendered to the dark elves and the battle was over. The dark elves, as a first act of revenge for their fallen, burned the sacred houses of the Mages' Academy.

Helcrani join Human Armies (772 b.S.) – The first Helcrani joined the human armies as mercenaries, not only being distinguished but also acquiring valuable military experience. This was the dawn of the notorious Helcrani fighting technique.

The High War (751 b.S.) – Curogane, leader of the Helcrani forces, launched a surprise attack against the Goltherlon forest. The attack was successful at the beginning and many elves were taken prisoners. A small child got away and informed the Goltherhim sovereign. The Goltherhim ambushed the human army, but the humans escaped.

The elves were encouraged by their victory and attacked Helcrah. Curogane took a small force and attacked the elves. The Helcrani managed to win the battle due to Gunold, who happened to be nearby with his Centoraurian troops.

That’s basically where the story stops, so if you want to know the rest go read it yourself.

The Idea

So, the story is divided into THREE epochs. These “epochs” as we call them, will be major battles of the War of the Blood (this will make sense if you read the history of the war.)

Epoch 1: Battle of Annihilation at the Zeiphyrian Forests (806 b.S.)

Human side: Assault the fortress of Elving

Elf side: Defend the fortress of Elving

This is where the human forces assault Elving. There is no real victor of this battle, so it will be pretty open-ended for us to interpret.

The Battle of Annihilation will be split up into several parts (sagas, chapters, whathaveyou.) The battle lasts several months.

Epoch 2: The Siege and the Fall of Ximax (777-773 b.S.)


Human: Defend Ximax

Elf: Assault Ximax

The Siege of Ximax is where the dark elves siege Ximax. The humans hold Ximax for 4 years before they finally lose to the elves.

This one will also be several chapters, because the Siege is 4 years.

Epoch 3: The High War (751 b.S.)


Human: Assault Goltherlon forest; survive retaliation; defend Helcrah

Elf: Resist attacks; retaliate; assault Helcrah

This is broken into two parts: the part where Curogane launches his attack, and the part where the Goltherhim retaliate.

This battle will last several months, like the first one, and be broken into various sagas or chapters.

Other Stuff

Co-Mod: The position of Co-Mod for this story is currently available has been filled!

Josephine, Valan and Sylv have offered their fealty to me in this effort.

Also, Josephine has offered her service as official historian so we don't accidentally break the time line with our childish puppetry of historical characters.

Tense: Everyone will speak in past, third-person tense (No “I” or “me” or anything of the sort, period. With the exception of dialogue, in which case it’s allowed.).

New Characters: For this story everyone will have to make a new character, because the events were set quite a while ago and all of the current characters that people are making are set in the present -- thus at this point all the people involved in the story would be long dead (it was over 2000 years ago, after all).


Title: Re: The War of the Blood
Post by: Seh'nara Celebrindal on July 14, 2009, 08:26:38 PM
Can't we not make a new character? I mean, FD is set in the past and we're allowed to play what we have.


Title: Re: The War of the Blood
Post by: Altario Shialt-eck-Gorrin on July 15, 2009, 01:46:11 AM
Hey Necro.  Looks like an ambitious concept here.  Can we (Admins) get a Story Creation formatted detailed synopisis of this story, so that we may discuss it in private?  Feel free to PM it to us, so that no story surprises are lost to potential players. :D


Title: Re: The War of the Blood
Post by: Kalína Dalá'isyrás on July 15, 2009, 04:29:19 AM
Glad you are reviving this, Necro! Any word from Bah at all? I know he popped onto the boards after you left.

@Seh
More than likely you will have to, as it is set farther in the past than FD


Title: Re: The War of the Blood
Post by: NecroMage on July 17, 2009, 04:01:54 AM
Seh: No, for two reasons.

A) As Kali said, this is set farther in the past than FD. This happened thousands of years ago in Santharia's history.

B) The inspiration for this story came about because Bah and me were discussing how characters very seldom die in RPs. The obvious answer why is because players are attached to their characters and like playing them, as they should. With this setting, players should be a bit more liberal with the deaths of their characters because A) The setting requires a lot of bloodshed, what with it being a war and all, and B) These are not your "real" characters. They can be deep and well written and wonderful and all that jazz, but at the end of the day, this would be the only story you'd likely get to play them in. By modern Santharian time they're all long, long dead so whether they died in the war or at home in a cabin from old age is irrelevant to your ability to play them anymore.

Alt: Not at this moment, simply because I don't have one yet. This is an ambitious project, and the last time I tried to get it started it was hovering around the "Can we even do this?" step for reasons related to player interest. What you see is as deep as the plot goes for the moment until I sit down and start scripting out the flow of the battles.

It just occurred to me I'd be defining Santharian history with that. Awesome.

Kali: Bah informed me he wouldn't be doing any RPing or such on this project.


Title: Re: The War of the Blood
Post by: Thodin Coldflame Lomin on July 17, 2009, 04:23:48 AM
Um hey I don't know if I'm allowed to post here, but I'd like to say one thing. Wouldn't that kind of character creation have to be a lot less elaborate than the current format that we are using? I mean isn't it going to be harder to create temporary characters? Unless of course we're using pre-made characters or unless we're allowed multiple characters is that really going to work out?


Title: Re: The War of the Blood
Post by: Altario Shialt-eck-Gorrin on July 17, 2009, 04:25:59 AM
Kali may contradict me on this, but all CD's have to go through the CD creation process and will be judged on that basis.  They will need to be marked as specific to this story, but all the necessary prerequisites will need to be there.


Title: Re: The War of the Blood
Post by: Thodin Coldflame Lomin on July 17, 2009, 04:29:36 AM
Well with that being said, by running this story it will be possible to use the Goltherhim as playable character right? According to the history books that would mean they were still a live and hadn't yet melded with the Helcrani right?


Title: Re: The War of the Blood
Post by: Altario Shialt-eck-Gorrin on July 17, 2009, 04:31:20 AM
Without looking at the entry, and knowing whether it was developed enough yet, I would say yes.  But, like I said, Kali is in charge of the CD side of things, so it is more her descretion.


Title: Re: The War of the Blood
Post by: Kalína Dalá'isyrás on July 17, 2009, 04:44:42 AM
Well, considering you can't correctly tell me which tribe they melded with, I have to say no. They melded with the Sanhorrhim, not the Helcrani. They fought against the Helcrani.

Now, my issue with allowing certain things we don't normally, is mass confusion and and misunderstandings. Since we don't use a lot of the tribes which would be available at that time period, there is and will be a general lack of understanding and interpretation by the players. This could in turn create too much extra work for the moderators who have to take care of the normal new players then old players who aren't sure of what they are doing.



Title: Re: The War of the Blood
Post by: Thodin Coldflame Lomin on July 17, 2009, 05:01:48 AM
Kalina I'm hurt by that, according to what's written in the Restrictions, and I quote,

"Goltherhim: Extinct; melded with the Sanhorrhim and Helcrani in 706 b.S."

EDIT (A): My bad all knowing one, please teach me the way of the thread. *Gets on hands and knees*

EDIT (B): I will Valan, thanks for the heads up.  :thumbup:


Title: Re: The War of the Blood
Post by: Kalína Dalá'isyrás on July 17, 2009, 05:17:16 AM
I read the actual entry, Thodin, not just the restrictions.

The restrictions are good guidelines, but it is outdated and often misinformation with direct information. It is in the process of being completely redone from scratch.

For looking at historic accuracy, always look at the entry if possible. The restrictions page is not the place to be looking for facts.


Title: Re: The War of the Blood
Post by: Valan Nonesuch on July 17, 2009, 09:13:32 AM
Before we jump the gun here, the Goltherhim did in fact merge with the Helcrani as well:
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The elven Helcrani (Styrani) genetically belong to the Goltherrhim elves.
Genetically being the keyword, meaning they probably don't observe the cultural traditions of the Goltherhim. If you want the looks, you can play a Styrani. Otherwise, you're shot.
 However, that could have happened after they were absorbed into the Sanhorhim. Note also that there are already indications that they had merged when Milkengrad was constructed
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730 b.S. The Helcrani are organized in 7 fractions, called fratrae. Five of them are human and named after the villages and one for the elves (Styran)

However: We see, 24 years later the following point: 706 b.S.
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The dwindling Goltherrhim leave their tainted forest, moving to either Milkengrad or the Vontron.

Milkengrad is where the Helcrani live, however! the Votron forest's inhabitants are:
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  Sanhorrhim inhabit the small Vontron forest, facing Cyan Sola Bay

So! This all goes to prove that the restrictions are technically correct, but they're also missing information.
@Thodin: Do your homework before you make points! Then you can be right.

Back to the topic at hand: I'm game for this. Who else?


Title: Re: The War of the Blood
Post by: Morden Peshirgolz on July 18, 2009, 03:01:07 AM
Back to what Necro said earlier, I really like the idea of creating a character that could be allowed to die in a story. I kinda like the depth that would add to the CD, as I would be envisioning their entire life through the CD. Very neat, I like this story idea!


Title: Re: The War of the Blood
Post by: Valan Nonesuch on September 13, 2009, 11:22:21 AM
Just so we know, the thread here has been updated. Co-mods have been found.


Title: Re: The War of the Blood
Post by: Thorin Broadfist on September 14, 2009, 09:33:36 AM
Thorin pulls out his belt knife, makes a small slit on the tip on his index finger and proceeds to sign his name in blood.
"There, now I'm with this ship whether it sinks or sails."


Title: Re: The War of the Blood
Post by: Fáiorríl on September 14, 2009, 10:23:54 AM
I'm into this.
Sounds like fun times. Death and killing.. yup yup.


Title: Re: The War of the Blood
Post by: Sylvia Palinor on September 14, 2009, 10:28:01 AM
Good to see some interest. :) Keep 'em coming! :grin:


Title: Re: The War of the Blood
Post by: Alexandre Scriabin on September 15, 2009, 08:50:31 AM
I love the idea of having an expendable character. Count me in.


Title: Re: The War of the Blood
Post by: Altario Shialt-eck-Gorrin on September 15, 2009, 08:52:29 AM
You guys realize that any character can be expendable (killed) if you so choose?  In any story.  You just must be willing to relinquish the character afterwards.


Title: Re: The War of the Blood
Post by: Thorin Broadfist on September 15, 2009, 08:54:36 AM
Yes, but I think that these will be the first characters with the sole intent of killing them off.


Title: Re: The War of the Blood
Post by: Fox on September 15, 2009, 08:54:55 AM
You guys realize that any character can be expendable (killed) if you so choose?  In any story.  You just must be willing to relinquish the character afterwards.

Aye. All of my characters are by default 'killable', there just usually isn't any particular reason to do so.


That being said, the difference is that for War of the Blood, the plan is that it isn't necessarily up to the consent of the player, like it is in other stories. If someone is absent for instance, they might come back to find their character having been offed.



Title: Re: The War of the Blood
Post by: Alexandre Scriabin on September 15, 2009, 09:04:20 AM
Precisely. You create most of your characters to develop upon them, join in stories for quite a while, and then die in some sort of spectacular way or whatever. This story will be great for some really well thought out writing.

If I were to join, I'm guessing some of my favorite parts of it will be, every so often, illustrating my own death and starting anew with another poor chap.

Am I right in assuming that if such a story was made, we would put our character's names in bold and control them as if they were npc's?


Title: Re: The War of the Blood
Post by: Fox on September 15, 2009, 09:13:06 AM
I'm pretty sure all player characters will be created and controlled just like they are for normal stories.


Title: Re: The War of the Blood
Post by: Valan Nonesuch on September 15, 2009, 09:17:31 AM
That was my understanding.

As to the "offing":

Oh yes. If you don't show up for a while and don't leave a note, chances are you consider yourself a redshirt on the front lines. Meaning "extremely vulnerable and liable to get killed" of course.


Title: Re: The War of the Blood
Post by: Sylvia Palinor on September 16, 2009, 11:25:56 AM
 I like that. It means people HAVE to stay active and update with their character. :shocked: Evil things are afoot! :lol:


Title: Re: The War of the Blood
Post by: Jenna Silverbirch on September 19, 2009, 10:26:43 PM
Just wanted to say I actually really like this idea- really original and delightfully epic.

So count me in, if you get this up and running :)


Title: Re: The War of the Blood
Post by: Ylaya on November 11, 2009, 07:07:51 PM
Yeah, lets get the horse and foot out and have a war. It would be quality and 'active'. I would definitely join up as one of the humans or elves. It would be challenging and intense.


Title: Re: The War of the Blood
Post by: Shomgar on November 11, 2009, 11:06:38 PM
(Kaldez) I'm up for this, sounds like a lot of fun.


Title: Re: The War of the Blood
Post by: Jenna Silverbirch on November 12, 2009, 01:55:20 AM
Now I'm not sure, as I'm not involved in this (and please correct me if I'm wrong), but sadly, I don't think much headway has been made in the story planning. So this one might not be happening :(


Title: Re: The War of the Blood
Post by: Ylaya on November 12, 2009, 01:56:30 AM
Everyone to the Banshee!!!


Title: Re: The War of the Blood
Post by: Jenna Silverbirch on November 12, 2009, 01:57:20 AM
Huzzah! I second that!


Title: Re: The War of the Blood
Post by: Altario Shialt-eck-Gorrin on November 12, 2009, 01:57:41 AM
Well, unfortunately, Necro has never been one to frequent the boards with any regularity, which does not bode well for actually running a story.  :(


Title: Re: The War of the Blood
Post by: Jenna Silverbirch on November 12, 2009, 01:59:19 AM
T'is a shame. It would have been a pretty epic story :(


Title: Re: The War of the Blood
Post by: Valan Nonesuch on November 13, 2009, 09:47:27 AM
Abandon not hope, you folks who have pledged your sou- characters to this story.

Sylv and I are trying to see if we can't get this up and running.


Title: Re: The War of the Blood
Post by: Sylvia Palinor on November 13, 2009, 10:52:16 AM
That's right! :grin: We will do our utmost best to get this story kicked up. If you are interested, please sign up hear with your sou- I mean character, or with a different account pledging a new character. :thumbup:


Title: Re: The War of the Blood
Post by: Altario Shialt-eck-Gorrin on November 13, 2009, 11:43:19 AM
Is this with Necro or without Necro?


Title: Re: The War of the Blood
Post by: Valan Nonesuch on November 13, 2009, 09:28:16 PM
Without, Alt. Since he hasn't seen fit to tell us anything about his plans or show up recently we're moving on ourselves.


Title: Re: The War of the Blood
Post by: Altario Shialt-eck-Gorrin on November 13, 2009, 11:03:03 PM
Hmmm.. Therein lies the problem for me.  This is his baby, still in the process of development.  I'm not sure I like the idea of others taking over without his permission.  This wasn't a full fledged running story that has languished in the archives for a year or so.

I would like to have his permission granted before continuing this.


Title: Re: The War of the Blood
Post by: Lorek Bearfist on November 13, 2009, 11:15:47 PM
I'm all for someone taking this over. Necro is a pretty random person, worse than me and it'd be great to have an active war story, especially for combative characters. Just a suggestion and my two cents anyhow.


Title: Re: The War of the Blood
Post by: Jenna Silverbirch on November 14, 2009, 04:38:15 AM
Good for you two! I suppose you could make plans for this, just without doing anything definite untill necro rears his head again.
Well, if Necro hopefully reappears and gives you his blessing on all of this, and you guys do get the go-ahead to carry on (and I hope you do), once I've made a suitable char consider my sou character at your service.


Title: Re: The War of the Blood
Post by: Alexandre Scriabin on November 14, 2009, 06:31:15 AM
I'm definitely game for it. When's the last time Necro popped his head in here?


Title: Re: The War of the Blood
Post by: Altario Shialt-eck-Gorrin on November 14, 2009, 06:36:03 AM
2 Weeks, which is not long enough of a time passage to hijack an idea of his and run with it, unless, like I have stated, he has given his blessing.


Title: Re: The War of the Blood
Post by: Alexandre Scriabin on November 14, 2009, 06:37:08 AM
2 Weeks, which is not long enough of a time passage to hijack an idea of his and run with it, unless, like I have stated, he has given his blessing.

Of course. It's too bad he doesn't frequent these boards, as he's pretty good at what he does.


Title: Re: The War of the Blood
Post by: Kaldez’Yadra on November 14, 2009, 06:41:58 AM
If Necro does give the go ahead I'll join.


Title: Re: The War of the Blood
Post by: Valan Nonesuch on November 23, 2009, 07:53:43 AM
So... how long exactly would long enough be Alt? It's been three weeks now. Should we try for four?  :huh:


Title: Re: The War of the Blood
Post by: Kalína Dalá'isyrás on November 23, 2009, 05:29:57 PM
I spoke to Necro. He doesn't seem to have the interest in reviving this, so if others have interest, let us Admins know.


Title: Re: The War of the Blood
Post by: Valan Nonesuch on November 24, 2009, 12:22:53 AM
If Sylv is still on board and we've got folks ready to join, I'd be more than happy to run it Kalina.


Title: Re: The War of the Blood
Post by: Altario Shialt-eck-Gorrin on November 24, 2009, 12:29:18 AM
OK, as it looks as if Necro has given his blessing, then it is now in your hands Valen. 

I guess, the first step is to submit to the admins the full plotline outline. Necro had not done so.  So far, the only info submitted was whats in this thread.


Title: Re: The War of the Blood
Post by: Valan Nonesuch on November 24, 2009, 12:43:55 AM
I believe I've set an outlne to the administration Alt. I've probably still got a copy kicking around in my outbox, so I'll pass it on to you if you don't mind dealing with the length.


Title: Re: The War of the Blood
Post by: Altario Shialt-eck-Gorrin on November 24, 2009, 01:15:42 AM
Longer is usually better than too short. :D

EDIT: Checked my PMs, all the way back to mid August, and have not recieved any info from you concerning this story.


Title: Re: The War of the Blood
Post by: Valan Nonesuch on November 24, 2009, 02:10:46 AM
Alt, I checked my outbox. the original PM was delivered to Kalina, so I'll send you a copy as well. Should have thought of that to begin with. It should be on it's way shortly.


Title: Re: The War of the Blood
Post by: Alexandre Scriabin on April 13, 2011, 06:25:09 AM
Major Thread Necro

I guess this fizzled out, eh?


Title: Re: The War of the Blood
Post by: Valan Nonesuch on April 13, 2011, 06:31:40 AM
Is there any particular point in resurrecting a thread that is over a year old Alex?
Suffice it to say that given the current state of the boards and Sylvia's absence I have not seen fit to continue with this story at the moment.


Title: Re: The War of the Blood
Post by: NecroMage on April 14, 2011, 03:52:08 PM
I log on for the first time in months and see this as the most recent post.

What.


Title: Re: The War of the Blood
Post by: Valan Nonesuch on April 15, 2011, 12:42:57 AM
What Dek is trying to say, and why I refuse to hold my tongue, is because your "statement" seems to be incomprehensible, irrelevant and bordering on spam. I've already told Alex not to resurrect this thread, now kindly let it die.

This means don't respond again.

Dek, if you wouldn't mind?


Title: Re: The War of the Blood
Post by: Alexandre Scriabin on April 15, 2011, 04:26:51 AM
I log on for the first time in months and see this as the most recent post.

What.

Yep, what a qouinkydink, huh?

From Valan:

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Is there any particular point in resurrecting a thread that is over a year old Alex?
Suffice it to say that given the current state of the boards and Sylvia's absence I have not seen fit to continue with this story at the moment.

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What Dek is trying to say, and why I refuse to hold my tongue, is because your "statement" seems to be incomprehensible, irrelevant and bordering on spam. I've already told Alex not to resurrect this thread, now kindly let it die.

This means don't respond again.

Dek, if you wouldn't mind?

Not so much more of a point than simply seeing what happened. Does curiosity victimize people? Is it inappropriate for a friend to wonder what happened? We're friends here, so we should be capable of associating ourselves with each other, without taking offense at first strikes. What happened to the relatively patient Valan who I enjoyed reading from, who took offense at second and third strikes?

But I understand your issues with the board (to a certain extent), and do see that Sylvia has been absent for some time. Don't worry about it and thanks for the info.


Title: Re: The War of the Blood
Post by: NecroMage on April 15, 2011, 09:28:39 AM
What Dek is trying to say, and why I refuse to hold my tongue, is because your "statement" seems to be incomprehensible, irrelevant and bordering on spam. I've already told Alex not to resurrect this thread, now kindly let it die.

This means don't respond again.

Dek, if you wouldn't mind?

Letting things die isn't my strong suit.

I'm up for reviving this idea so long as people are interested in it and let me know, and I get a co-mod or two.


Title: Re: The War of the Blood
Post by: Danny ElfMan on May 12, 2011, 09:51:02 PM
wat is blood :grin: :grin: :grin: :grin: :grin: :grin: :grin: :grin: :grin:


Title: Re: The War of the Blood
Post by: Kracken McSlacken on May 12, 2011, 09:53:51 PM
Is there a shortage? At the Bloodbank? Sparkly Vampires?


Title: Re: The War of the Blood
Post by: Danny ElfMan on May 12, 2011, 10:01:15 PM
pleez xplain