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« on: 01 June 2006, 11:00:00 »

Hello all!  Just wondering - is it possible for a spell to be classified in more than one spell school?  For example: maybe a spell which fires lighting from the caster's fingertips could be classified as both wind and fire magic because of the relation of lightning to air and weather as well as its affinity to the intense heat of flame?
In relation - can Ximaxian mages specialise in more than one school of magic (e.g. an elf who is a both wind and a fire mage and can cast spells from both schools with equal proficiency)?  From what I've seen so far, they can only specialise in one school of magic.... Feedback, please!  Thanks!  

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« Reply #1 on: 01 June 2006, 11:05:00 »

So far we have classified spells with one school only. For spells that achieve interesting results in conjunction, you write about the conjunction in them.

Specialization: there is nothing preventing one from learning more than one school, however, you would be less in both of them, as you would have less time to study them. So you could achieve an equally low proficiency. Of course, say specializing in Fire and knowing one or two Wind spells would IMHO not put much of a damper on your Fire magic.

Also, one could wonder where the theory pertaining to all schools fits into this, and if they are so different as to facilitate this kind of setbacks... *mews enigmatically*

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« Reply #2 on: 01 June 2006, 11:21:00 »

Combo spells would have to be done by multiple mages which could make them extremely difficult if they would need to cast at the same time. It is possible that a spell is found in multiple schools, but although the effects may be exactly the same the way of casting will be different. For example heating up can be done with Fire and Water (although it will be easier with Fire) as well as cooling down (which will be easier to do with Water).
It's like cart. You can pull it or push, no matter if you are in the front of it or behind it. Pushing is easier to do, so depending on what side you are it will be easier to move it in a certain direction.

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Also, one could wonder where the theory pertaining to all schools fits into this, and if they are so different as to facilitate this kind of setbacks

It would probably be a tad easier to start in a second element as the theory would be very similar IMHO. Still, focussing on one element would get you much further in it, so I doubt it would be done (exept maybe for the few that change in the beginning of their career).
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« Reply #3 on: 01 June 2006, 11:28:00 »

What precisely is not allowed on the boards?  The knowledge of spells from more than one school, or being a multi-schooled mage?  Sorry, got lost in the discussion...:confused  

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« Reply #4 on: 01 June 2006, 12:01:00 »

Being a multi-schooled mage is not allowed when you create a character on the RPing boards.

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« Reply #5 on: 01 June 2006, 12:02:00 »

Ah, I see.  Is specialising in one school but knowing a few spells from another permitted?

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« Reply #6 on: 01 June 2006, 12:08:00 »

Knowing as in knowing they exist and perhaps even how they would technically work? Yes. Knowing as in being able to cast them? No. This would automaticly make you a multi-schooled mage btw, as you would need to learn the theory before you start casting. So you would need to enroll in the school before you can learn it's spells.

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« Reply #7 on: 01 June 2006, 12:38:00 »

Okay.  Thanks for clarifying that whole thing for me!  Much appreciated!

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« Reply #8 on: 01 June 2006, 13:32:00 »

I desagree with you Marv, IMHO you don't need "how it works" to make it work, is like me and the computer... I don't have the most minimum idea on how it stores information, but I use it.

Also, friendship between two schools wouldn't be rare, so f.e Twen would tech me some basic spells of fire in exchange for me teaching she some of wind... So, maybe a spell or two may be allowed in RPG, but not the complete list, and only if they are of sphere one IMHO.

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« Reply #9 on: 01 June 2006, 14:31:00 »

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I desagree with you Marv, IMHO you don't need "how it works" to make it work, is like me and the computer... I don't have the most minimum idea on how it stores information, but I use it.

Yes, you do need to know how it works. To compare it with your computer: you would need to know how to write a program if you wanted to make one, you would need to know about it's components if you wanted to build one, you would need to know how to use windows if you wanted to do something with it,... It's not just chant+wave+point = spell.

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Also, friendship between two schools wouldn't be rare, so f.e Twen would tech me some basic spells of fire in exchange for me teaching she some of wind...

If it would be that easy to learn a spell, why would they still need classes to teach it. Casting a spell is just an application of a technique and it's the technique that's the most important. You'll need to know the technique before you know how to use it.

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So, maybe a spell or two may be allowed in RPG, but not the complete list, and only if they are of sphere one IMHO.

No. Undeveloped would be a good enough reason not to allow it.

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« Reply #10 on: 01 June 2006, 20:45:00 »

This proof we need a "Class in X Tower" entry...  

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« Reply #11 on: 02 June 2006, 12:20:00 »

Edited... for further explanation see here, second post from top of page.

Edited by: Ysuran Auondril at: 6/3/06 18:05
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« Reply #12 on: 02 June 2006, 17:54:00 »

I don't think we should allow magi to learn even only a couple of spells in another element at all in the Ximaxian system.  Doing so messes with things, especially when you consider how for magi who are advanced enough, learning one spell could easily mean learning the whole sphere or spell class the spell belongs to.  

Perhaps the fact that magi of different elements are trained to manipulate different types of ounia could be the key to making it impossible, or at least incredibly impractical for a mage to learn any spells of another element?  


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« Reply #13 on: 02 June 2006, 19:09:00 »

Maybe... but maybe is posible and we are closing that door...

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« Reply #14 on: 03 June 2006, 03:12:00 »

Closing the door for? Multi-mages that can do everything? RP chars that just choose a set of spells from the site (showing they don't understand the magic system? I don't mind closing the door for either.

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