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The  Maryón (Watersprogs)




Overview

The Sarvonian Maryón, Marchuhányón (??? waterfall maids) , waterchildren or watersprogs  as they are named by the common people are of the same race and general appearance  as the merfolk or rivermaids and share most of their body-characteristics: a humanoid upper torso and a fishlike tail. They are much smaller than the merfolk, more fragile looking, but  nevertheless they seem to move effortlessly in their challenging habitat, the waterfalls and  pools at the base of the falls. If they can still be  called  sentient is discussed hotly.




(white-water-maid would be cool as well, but how would one add the three words: aelién, már, yón??)


 

Appearance

The waterchildren are without doubt the sweetest of the fishtailed race. Most time of the year it is hard to observe them in the turbulent white water they inhabit, be it the waterfalls or the ponds below, but occasionally they come to the surface of the fall-ponds they are washed in ; hours upon hours of waiting for them is then rewarded with a sight unsurpassed . The best opportunity to watch them is when the rivers are low on water in autumn, then one might be even able to see one quite closely - if one dares to get near enough to the still dangerous waters.



They share many characteristics with the rivermaids: a humanoid body, but with childlike breasts, which look more muscled than female, teats are not visible and there is no navel; a fishtail, though this is quite a bit different than those of their sisters living in the river and the sea; long flowing hair. They don‘t need to change their colour like the rivermaids, but have always the same breathtaking appearance: A silvery fishtail with a pronounced scalelike pattern; an alabaster coloured upper body which seems to be light dusted with powdered mithril; delicate little faces with huge eyes, a small noses and colourless lips ; long silvery hair, floating around them like a veil. The somehow strange looking eyes which seem to have no cilia are always of a light hue, often a light sou‘cald blue, sometimes a vontromarin or grey. The watersprogs always smile whenever there is somebody who watches them. Because of their small size - they grow only up to two fores - the little pointed teeth are not as disturbing as the ones of the rivermaids.

Their tails are special. They have two pronounced flukes which can be moved individually. The whole tail is covered with more or less small suckers which could be taken for scales at the first sight. It is extremely bendable and tough at the same time. Their arms are long and slender; pronounced fins, relatively larger than those of the mermaids, with bony extensions between the thin, transparent skin, stretch along the backs of their arms;  the  fine webbing between each of the slim, but sturdy fingers seems to be covered with tiny suckers as the whole hand.

Waterchildren can be found in different sizes, but whether the smaller ones are  younger, nobody knows. Similar to the rivermaids  they do not seem to have different  genders. But where the rivermaids are clearly female looking, the  waterchildren look like - children.


The overall impression is that of a lightness in their appearance. They float in the water as if they would fly, they climb and jump up waterfalls as if they would have no weight.  While in the water their alabaster bodies seem to be as transparent as the element they live in, deceiving the eyes if one wishes to have a closer look. At times they love to jump out of the water like the dolpholk, the little fishtails then splash the water surface creating  a fountain of water drops. There is no more fulfilling sight as a couple of waterchildren playing in the  sunshine.


Habitat and Territory

Maryóns are found in many waterfalls of Sarvonia which are running along a steep rock slope. As long as the water is not tossing freely all the way down to the ground but at least hitting the rock somewhere, watersprogs are living there for sure, though they are very rarely discovered.
The best place for them are rivers streaming down quickly, but from boulder to boulder. So the Sharadon Falls are famous for their big population of these lovely creatures as the rapids of Marcogg, but other South Sarvonian river falls  like the falls on the east coast of the Mithral Mountains are inhabited by them as well, they are also present in the Valley of the Brownies and live at the base of the Anaios Gap.



Mode of Living

As already mentioned, the best opportunity to watch the Watersprogs is when the rivers are low on water in autumn and rocks in the middle of the rapids appear which are normally covered with water during the rest of the year. Then one is able to observe their astonishing skill to move up the falls despite the pressure of the water masses.  Their so slender and elegantly looking arms and hands have no problems to hold on to the slippery rocks, their tail is pressed to the stone and in the tiniest cavity, their fins at the back of their arms are spread out widely. . While the strong hands  hold on the rock, the tail is drawn nearer to the body and fixed again at the underground, then the whole body booms up   - always as close to the rocks as possible -  and the hands search for the next grip. When having mastered the climb up the fall, they seem to enjoy to mount the now visible rocks in the middle of the still fast streaming water. This is the only opportunity to see them in all their glory, but not for long, for unlike the rivermaids they don‘t seem to need these times out of their wet element.

Reason for these waterfall acrobatics are the plants which grow there and are assumed to be their main diet. However,  they are seen to catch now and then a smaller fish as well in the basins below the falls.

Nobody knows, where they are sleeping, in the pond at the base of the fall or in a crevice in the wall behind the waterfall where the draw of the water is not as tight as farther out - or if they sleep at all! Where the winters are so cold, that even the falling water freezes, they hibernate as their sisters, the rivermaids, probably at the bottom of the pond.

Waterchildren are funny people, even more than rivermaids. It is a joy to watch them how they move up the falls. Sometimes it looks as if  a competition who is at the top first is held; here it is allowed to try to pull those down who are ahead of you. Finally most have jumped down into the pond at the base, so that only a few are left. However, they find it obviously boring up there, so that they join the others by plunging themselves down as well - using the white and green waters as if they would be a slide. Sometimes even their laughter and giggling can be heard, distant and sweet like little bells, though most times the roaring noises of the falling waters deprive the observer of this treat.


Though the waterchildren are as present in Santharia as the rivermaids, the knowledge about that lovely little creatures is much more scarcer.. They also live  in smaller waterfalls, but unlike rivermaids, nobody has ever seen a solitary Watersprog. There are always at least a few.

If there is a family structure or any organising of this group, a single member who tells the others what to do it does so unnoticeably, as nothing at all could be derived from the observations of their plays. It looks as if they have such a merry life, that they don‘t need any organising. There are no predators in the waterfalls and only very rarely a big fish in the ponds who is able to catch one of the little ones in the tossing, turbulent water. Occasionally one sees a young bird of prey picking one out of the water, but or unknown reasons, these are always immediately dropped back again.

Researchers have tried to find out if the  sentient Maryóns have anything which resembles a festivity or any rituals which occur at certain times, but every time somebody claimed to have found something and colleagues were coming to prove it, the watersprogs behaved differently. (*)

*So Micca of Bardavos, possible the most famous Maryón researcher, invited colleagues from Varcopas to New Santhala to come to the Sharadon Falls to approve following  observation: Each morning, when the sun started to shine fully on the top of the falls, all watersprogs gathered there and after a time of swimming up there (and possibly proving that they could withstand the force of the water pulling them down) suddenly all jumped down the falls. This happened from spring to autumn every single day. But not so, when the first visitors arrived to confirm it. Fortunately many other Bardavos citizens had seen it as well, so they confirmed her claim. However, it made her only famous as the one who was stultified by her object of study.



Language

The Watersprogs communicate with each other which can be clearly seen when they sit on the rocks at the tops of some falls, they move their lips and emit noises which are obviously understood by their sisters. But through the inaudibility -  caused by the tossing water masses -  which is most times the case,  research has not found any clues, how the spoken language works nor is it understood. Some accompanying gestures can be seen and interpreted like a waving with the arms or a spreading and closing of their fins, which can signal: “Come let‘s jump down“,  but not more.
A few times it could be observed though, that the rivermaids can obviously communicate with their smaller sisters, the Maryóns, however, this happens so rarely, that nothing can be said about it with certainty.



Relation to other races

To say there are relations to other races  denies the fact, that these relation are quite one-sided. Apart from the occasionally talking of a rivermaid with a Waterchild most times the Maryón are just observed, be it human, dwarf or elf. The watersprogs are seeing the people at the rim of the river, ,a short eye contact was  established in a few cases where the Maryón was near enough, a little waterchild near the boarder of a stream may even grin to a curious watcher for a short moment, but generally they take no notice of what happens outside their water. There is no waving to the bypassing traveller like the rivermaids sometimes do it, no fleeing if a brave young person dares to go to the very edge of a torrent to see the waterchildren as close as possible. They don‘t react, if their only enemy, young birds of prey , are coming for them to catch one out of the water. Some researchers tried to catch their interest by throwing toys into the water like balls, wreaths of flowers or similar gewgaw, but to no avail. The watersprogs might have even caught the ball, but after a few blinks it was abandoned. It is as if the „outside“ world does not exist for them or is at least not of interest.

Though the waterchildren take not much interest in the outside world or other races,  humans, elves and hobbits are fond of them and many tales and stories are told about them. They have found their way in the daily life of the other sentient races,  be it with sayings or prediction of the weather and the like.
The Maryón‘s  life is in the eyes of many tougher than that of the rivermaids- with the hardship of having to climb up the waterfalls to get to their food  - but  they eradicate such a blitheness when being watched, that they became the epitome of happiness. „Merry as a Watersprog“ or „Your are behaving like a Maryón!“ when children rollick around and do not want to stop when asked to, are just two of many other proverbs  describing friskiness.  Or „If a Maryón can climb up a water fall, you will be able to do....“ a hint, that a given task should be not too difficult for somebody.

However, their significance is even greater. They are not only a symbol for blitheness, unreachable for most, but generally stand for something which is beautiful and desired, but out of reach, for the creed, that one cannot have all one would wish to have. That may be caused through the impossibility to watch them closely.  Their constant movement in the streaming water which deceives the eyes anyway, the colour and consistence  of their skin - all works together that the impression of something which evades our senses is created. Even if they are sitting for a short time on the rocks in a rapid, the sun‘s rays are reflected in a way, that they seem not entirely part of our world. They stand for beauty which cannot be touched - which is even forbidden to be touched. So the strong taboo to try to catch them can be explained, though any attempts would probably fail anyway. 

The sight of waterchildren brings luck, at least that is what many people believe who come to places where they can be observed on a more regular basis like in Bardavos, were the Sharadon Falls are home for many. Especially when lacking rain lets the fields get dry and the harvest is in danger, many farmer and other common folk travel to places where they reside to get a glimpse of a few. Prayers to Baveras and Grothar, written by clerics on little pieces of bark are thrown into the water. The waterchildren, as offspring of these two gods, are asked to forward these pleas for rain.


Mythology

All over Santharia the myth connects them with Baveras and Grothar. In the South they are the offspring of Baveras, the goddess of water and Grothar, the weather god, in Northern Santharia they are created by Grothar out of moistness and cool air to please Baveras, his lover.


It would be nice, if somebody else would write a Kuglimz myth (Alysse?) or one originating in the Kanapan belief




Myth/Lore

No recent researcher could document so far the death of a Waterchild nor has there been found a dead one somewhere which could be examined. Secret attempts to catch one with special nets all failed,  because the experiments were disapproved by the local people. But there is plenty of lore about them and not few stories who deal with their death.

So the lore goes, that if in hot summers a smaller waterfall dries out the Waterchild  might be caught in a small crevice, not being able any more to glide down with the water, because there is not left enough. The tiny rivulet in which the waterfall was gushing its water is not suited as a habitat and so the little Watersprog hides in the moistness of a small cave until it is too late. So a lucky traveller who looks out for them might find a dried out one. There is one old fragment of a text in the Library of  Varcopas which reads like this:

„...[The sum]mer had been hot and so I was [able to u]se the dried out creek as a path through the forest up the steep slope. When I had mastered nearly half of the way my eyes caught something unexpected. In a small cave , only about two handspans wide which was well hidden from the sun a small beautiful figure of a young silvery maid  was crouching in the cavity. At first I did not dare to touch it, for it looked so fragile, somehow transparent, like made out of the finest silk or better, out of shining spider web. The arms were twined around the shiny tail, the face partly hidden by hairs which looked as if they were spun out of the finest silver. I couldn‘t help, but tears run down my cheeks as I looked at so much beauty, lovely even in the death. I didn‘t [know wh]at to do first, but then I remembered what my grandmother had told me when I was young: If you find a dead Waterchild, take it very carefully to not to  destroy it and bring her to the next waterfall. If you do so, you will never experience a shortage of good drinking water your whole life. So I carefully...“

That story however explains an unnatural death, but what about the other Maryóns? Some myths of Northern Sarvonia say that they live forever, forever playing and being blissful for they are created by Grothar to please Baveras if she should ever get a bad mood and that then they should remind her to be friendly to all who depend on her.

On the east coast of the Mithral Mountains the parents tell their children that the watersprogs shrink when they die till they are just about a handspan long and quite heavy. Then they sink at the bottom of the waterfall ponds and stay there for ever. Sometimes one can look down in these ponds and is able to see their little white forms turned to white stone.



Researcher

There is no single researcher who could be mentioned here as the leading brain. Micca of Bardavos was seen as being very competent, but with her unsuccessful attempt to proof that they have rituals she stepped back and looked for another realm of activity. Ansird of Necoma spend some time researching them till he found his rivermaids more rewarding. The Maryóns are a thorn in every contemporary researcher‘s flesh, for they elude their wish to hold, investigate and measure exactly, they show very visibly, that not all can be explored or explained. Due to their protection through the believes of the common people, that even the attempt to „touch“ them brings misfortune, they are well protected from the direct (surpassing observation only ) pursuits of any investigator anyway.

So the Waterchildren‘s secrets are unresolved till today.





More:
Swamphags and Moorcrocks
Rivermaids









Entries where they need to be added:

Marcogg
Toran‘s Falls (done)
Bardavos (later)
Nirmenith Falls (later)
Ravenwing Falls
Nepris??


„If in the morning the watersprog‘s dancing‘s strange,
then in the ev‘ning  the weather will surely change.“

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« Reply #1 on: 02 December 2006, 04:39:33 »

Entries where they need to be added:

Marcogg
Toran‘s Falls (done)
Bardavos (later)
Nirmenith Falls (later)
Ravenwing Falls
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« Reply #2 on: 04 December 2006, 00:10:30 »

Just a quick thing I noticed whilst skim reading...

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they emit noises which are obviously understood by their sisters.

Are there any males in Maryons? If so, why sisters? If not, how do they exist?
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« Reply #3 on: 04 December 2006, 02:14:33 »

No, they look all similar and don't show any gender-specific attributes, are more like children. But because there are only rivermaids as well, people assume, that they all are female, or maybe because they are more feminine/girlish looking  nobody thinks there could be males as well. How they reproduce is not known, for it was never observed.  Due to the environment they live in (waterfalls) it was not possible. Maybe I should add, that they show a hint of a female breast to make it clearer.
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« Reply #4 on: 05 December 2006, 21:25:49 »

Added some sentences to make it clearer that the gender is not known.
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« Reply #5 on: 06 December 2006, 04:49:26 »

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white-water-maid would be cool as well, but how would one add the three words: aelién, már, yón??

Maybe like this:
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« Reply #6 on: 06 December 2006, 05:59:56 »

Personally I'm all for it to add a bit more fantasy in our fantasy world. We're lacking too much of such fantastic creatures - providing they are properly embedded and not completely unrealistic, so that they are only fantastic and not really workable in a more realistic context as we have it here.

This creature is something I can imagine to have if we don't overdo it, Talia. I've read the entry, and while it still might not be completed in all parts, here some pointers from my side:

- The Overview is a bit unspecific at the moment - it isn't entirely clear about what kind of creature we're talking here, e.g. how they different from the merfolk, what makes them unique. Some more specificas should be added here to give a better impression of the creature right from the start.

- In the Appearance section we hear that these creatures are humanoid and that they have a fishtail, but it isn't mentioned that they have hands (or how these look like), unless I've missed something. That made it somewhat difficult to imagine how they climb.

- There's a bit of confusion in the "Mode of Living" section, where you first explain in detail what they are doing, and then continue:

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Not much is known about this lovely creatures. Though they live also in little waterfalls, nobody has seen yet a single Watersprog as it is possible with rivermaids.


Hmm... are you talking about another creature here? Is there a difference betwen sprogs, children etc. I assume you only mean that they are in general hiding and can hardly be observed, but that they in fact exist and aren't just a myth. But that they basically remain a natural miracle of some sort. Is that correct? - Do they appear perhaps only at certain special occasions? Full moon nights, certain kinds of mornings etc.?

- At any rate it confuses me that "not much is known about them" and "nobody has seen one", but that we know about their communication ("[they] communicate with each other which can be clearly seen"). So this is all a bit contradictory, or should be formulated more precisely - that we know of certain sounds that people allocate to these creatures etc. Well, as it continues you seem to have very clear observations, so I'm a bit at a loss how much is really known from them.

- Language: communication with the outside world would be interesting here (you have that a bit in the "Relation to other races" section). But it all depends how visible they are to people, so that interaction is possible or not. They might not really notice other people, but would it be possible to address them and would there be a reaction (if they can be actively observed). Are they seen as a good/bad omen?

- Any theories where they come from? Are they perhaps semi-spiritual being of some sorts as they seem to have some sort of "magical aura" around them, something which makes them impossible to catch, makes them a fleeting existence, and still somehow corporeal basically.

Definitely a very interesting creature, which - if kept semi-mythical -  and perhaps doesn't exist at every waterfall but only at selected ones, adds a nice fantastic touch to our world. There are still some questions that need to be clarified though methinks. But the descriptions so far are splendid :D
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« Reply #7 on: 06 December 2006, 07:09:12 »

Thanks for the comment! I see what you mean, the problem was probably, that I wrote the rivermaids first (which I wanted to do for a long time now), then came the idea of the swamphags (for I'm always told, that Santharia is a place too friendly), then I saw on a DVD this fish a short time ago in a rapid with nothing what could have helped him to withstand the water. My problem was here a bit, that I couldn't use the single headings like clothes, mating etc..
Will try to clear things up.
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Rearranged, added, cut out.... next comments please! :)

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« Reply #9 on: 10 December 2006, 12:52:40 »

Don‘t say, this is not possible, I have the idea of a small fish which lives in - waterfalls.


The  Maryón (Watersprogs)



ok i'm gonna try to do as you say and make my comments in a color, but i have no idea with all the nested fonts as is if it will show up?



Overview

The Sarvonian Maryón, Marchuhányón (??? waterfall maids) , waterchildren or watersprogs  as they are named by the common people are of the same race and general appearance  as the merfolk or rivermaids and share most of their body-characteristics: a humanoid upper torso and a fishlike tail. They are much smaller than merfolk  (strike though)though, more fragile looking, but they  move nevertheless seemingly effortless in their challenging habitat, the waterfalls and  pools at the base of the falls. If they can still be  called  sentient is discussed hotly.




(white-water-maid would be cool as well, but how would one add the three words: aelién, már, yón??)


 

Appearance

The waterchildren are without doubt the sweetest of the fishtailed race. Most time of the year it is hard to observe them in the turbulent white water they are living, but occasionally they come to the surface of the fall-ponds they  live in; hours of hours of waiting for (this is redudant) them is then rewarded with a sight unsurpassed. The best opportunity to watch them (the waterchildren  -- its not clear cause you slip into subjective) is when the rivers are low on water in autumn, then one might be even able to see one quit closely - if one dares to get near enough to the still dangerous waters.


So i think make a choice, is it objective viewpoint or subjective viewpoint? Cause by using "one" all the time you make it sound like subjective opinion, not objective fact.

Tried to fix the possibility to get some more information about them already here


They share many characteristics with the rivermaids: a humanoid body, but with childlike breasts, which look more muscled than female, teats are not visible and there is no navel; a fishtail, though this is quite a bit different than those of their sisters living in the river and the sea; long flowing hair. They don‘t need to change their colour like the rivermaids, but have always the same breathtaking appearance: A silvery fishtail with a pronounced scalelike pattern; an alabaster coloured upper body which seems to be light dusted with powder out of mithril; delicate little faces with huge eyes, a small noses and colourless lips ; long silvery hair, floating around them like a veil. The somehow strange looking eyes which seem to have no cilia are always of a light hue, often a light sou‘cald blue, sometimes a vontromarin or grey. The watersprogs always smile whenever there is somebody who watches them. Because of their small size - they grow only up to two fores - the little pointed teeth are not as disturbing as the ones of the rivermaids.

this description!!

Their tails are special. They have two pronounced flukes which can be moved individually. The whole tail is covered with more or less small suckers which could be taken for scales at the first sight. It is extremely bendable and tough at the same time. Their arms are long and slender; pronounced fins, relatively larger than those of the mermaids, with bony extensions between the thin, transparent skin, stretch along the backs of their arms;  the  fine webbing between each of the slim, but sturdy fingers seems to be covered with tiny suckers as is the whole hand.

the arm fins are silvery?

Waterchildren don‘t have all the same size, (need to edit)  but if the smaller ones are  young ones, nobody knows. They don‘t seem to have, similar to the rivermaids, different  genders. But where the rivermaids are clearly female looking, the  waterchildren look like - children.


The overall impression is that of a lightness in the appearance. They float in the water as if they would fly, they climb and jump up waterfalls as if they would have no weight.  While in the water their alabaster bodies seem to be as transparent as the element they live in, deceiving the eyes if one wishes to have a closer look. At times they love to jump out of the water like the dolpholk, the little fishtails then splash the water surface creating  a fountain of water drops. There is no more fulfilling sight as a couple of waterchildren playing in the  sunshine.

again you slip back into the subjective "one" viewpoint


Habitat and Territory

Maryóns are found in many waterfalls of Sarvonia which are running (which run) along a steep rock slope. As long as the water is not tossing freely all the way down to the ground but at least hitting the rock somewhere, watersprogs are living there for sure, though they are very rarely discovered. (awkward phrasing, can you say it another way?)The best place for them are rivers streaming down quickly, but from boulder to boulder. So the Sharadon Falls are famous for their big population of these lovely creatures as the rapids of Marcogg, but other South Sarvonian river falls  like the falls on the east coast of the Mithral Mountains are inhabited by them as well, they are present in the Valley of the Brownies and live at the base of the Anaios Gap.



Mode of Living

As already mentioned, the best opportunity to watch them is when the rivers are low on water in autumn and rocks in the middle of the rapids appear which are normally covered with water during the rest of the year. Then one is able to observe their astonishing skill to move up the falls despite the pressure of the water masses.  Their so slender and elegantly looking arms and hands have no problems to hold on to the slippery rocks, their tail is pressed to the stone and in the tiniest cavity, their fins at the back of their arms are spread out widely. . While the strong hands  hold on the rock, the tail is drawn nearer to the body and fixed again at the underground, then the whole body booms up   - always as close to the rocks as possible -  and the hands search for the next grip. When having mastered the climb up the fall, they seem to enjoy to mount the now visible rocks in the middle of the still fast streaming water. This is the only opportunity to see them in all their glory, but not for long, for unlike the rivermaids they don‘t seem to need these times out of their wet element.

Reason for these waterfall acrobatics are the plants which grow there and are assumed to be their main diet. However,  they are seen to catch now and then a smaller fish as well in the basins below the falls.

Nobody knows, where they are sleeping, in the pond at the base of the fall or in a crevice in the wall behind the waterfall where the draw (?) of the water is not as tight as farther out. Where the winters are so cold, that even the falling water freezes, they hibernate as their sisters, the rivermaids, probably at the bottom of the pond.

the prose almost reads like a fairy tale at this point, so again is this a straightforward entry axonomic in nature, or is this a nice story about the watermaids? It would make a good story either way, but i think you need to choose the tone.

Waterchildren are funny people, even more than rivermaids. It is a joy to watch them how they move up the falls. It looks as if it a competition who is at the top first is held and it is allowed to push those down who are ahead of you. (reword more clearly, push what down? ahead as in up the falls?) Finally most have fallen down into the pond at the base, so that only a few are left which find it obviously boring up there, (again subjective) so that they join the others by jumping down as well - using the white and green waters as if they would be a slide. Sometimes even their laughter and giggling can be heard, distant and sweet like little bells, though most times the roaring noises of the falling waters deprive the observer of this treat.


Though the waterchildren are as present in Santharia as the rivermaids, the knowledge about that lovely little creatures is much more scarce.. They live also in smaller waterfalls, but nobody has seen yet a single (lone? - just one )  (if no one has seen it, and we are subjective view, we wouldnt have that note, if its objective omnipotent then we would) Watersprog as it is possible with rivermaids. There are always at least a few. (again how would you know there is always a few if subjective?)

If there is a family structure or any organising of this group, a single member who tells the others what to do - nothing at all could be derived from the observations of their plays. It looks as if they have such a merry life, that they don‘t need any organising. There are no predators in the waterfalls and very rarely a big fish in the ponds who is able to catch one of the little ones in the tossing, turbulent water. Occasionally one sees a young bird of prey picking one out of the water, but they are dropped down all immediately, the reason is not known.

Would be interesting if any notes about how they respond when one of their kind is grabbed by a big fish and killed before their eyes?? Maybe give them some sort of magic to ward off predators??

Researchers have tried to find out if the  sentient Maryóns have anything which resembles a festivity or any rituals which occur at certain times, but every time somebody claimed to have found something and colleagues were coming to proof it, the watersprogs behaved differently. (*)

*So Micca of Bardavos, possible the most famous Maryón researcher, invited colleagues from Varcopas to New Santhala to come to the Sharadon Falls to approve following  observation: Each morning, when the sun started to shine fully on the top of the falls, all watersprogs gathered there and after a time of swimming up there (and possible proofing that they could withstand the water forces pulling them down) suddenly all jumped down the falls. This happened from spring to autumn every single day. But not so, when the first visitors arrived to proof it. Fortunately many other Bardavos citizens had seen it as well, so they confirmed her claim. However, it made her only famous as the one who was stultified by her object of study.

again this reads like a story excerpt, not a fauna description



Language

The Watersprogs communicate with each other which can be clearly seen when they sit on the rocks at the tops of some falls, they move their lips and emit noises which are obviously understood by their sisters. But through the inaudibility -  caused by the tossing water masses -  which is most times the case,  research has not found any clues, how the spoken language works nor is it understood. Some accompanying gestures can be seen and interpreted like a waving with the arms or a spreading and closing of their fins, which can signal: “Come let‘s jump down“,  but not more.
A few times it could be observed though, that the rivermaids can obviously communicate with their smaller sisters, the Maryóns, however, this happens so rarely, that nothing can be told about it.



Relation to other races

To say there are relations to other races  denies the fact, that these relation are quite one-sided. Apart from the occasionally talking of a rivermaid with a Waterchild most times the Maryón are just observed, be it human, dwarf or elf. The watersprogs are seeing the people at the rim of the river, ,a short eye contact was  established in a few cases where the Maryón was near enough, a little waterchild near the boarder of a stream may even grin to a curious watcher for a short moment, but generally they take no notice of what happens outside their water. There is no waving to the bypassing traveller like the rivermaids sometimes do it, no fleeing if a brave young person dares to go to the very edge of a torrent to see the waterchildren as close as possible. They don‘t react, if their only enemy, young birds of prey ,  (actually you say somewhere else sometimes they are eatern by bigger fish)  are coming for them to catch one out of the water. Some researchers tried to catch their interest by throwing toys into the water like balls, wreaths of flowers or similar gewgaw, but to no avail. The watersprogs might have even caught the ball, but after a few blinks it was abandoned. It is as if the „outside“ world does not exist for them or is at least not of interest.

Though the waterchildren take not much interest in the outside world or other races,  humans, elves and hobbits are fond of them and many tales and stories are told about them. They have found their way in the daily life of the other sentient races,  be it with sayings or prediction of the weather and the like.
The Maryón‘s  life is in the eyes of many tougher than that of the rivermaids- with the hardship of having to climb up the waterfalls to get to their food  - but  they eradicate such a blitheness when being watched, that they became the epitome of happiness. „Merry as a Watersprog“ or „Your are behaving like a Maryón!“ when children rollick around and do not want to stop when asked to, are just two of many other proverbs  describing friskiness.  Or „If a Maryón can climb up a water fall, you will be able to do....“ a hint, that a given task should be not too difficult for somebody.

good fable additions

However, their significance is even greater. They are not only a symbol for blitheness, unreachable for most, but generally stand for something which is beautiful and desired, but out of reach, for the creed, that one cannot have all one would wish to have. That may be caused through the impossibility to watch them closely.  Their constant movement in the streaming water which deceives the eyes anyway, the colour and consistence  of their skin - all works together that the impression of something which evades our senses is created. Even if they are sitting for a short time on the rocks in a rapid, the sun‘s rays are reflected in a way, that they seem not entirely part of our world. They stand for beauty which cannot be touched - which is even forbidden to be touched. So the strong taboo to try to catch them can be explained, though any attempts would probably fail anyway. 

The sight of waterchildren brings luck, at least that is what many people believe who come to places where they can be observed on a more regular basis like in Bardavos, were the Sharadon Falls are home for many. Especially when lacking rain lets the fields get dry and the harvest is in danger, many farmer and other common folk travel to places where they reside to get a glimpse of a few. Prayers to Baveras and Grothar, written by clerics on little pieces of bark are thrown into the water. The waterchildren, as offspring of these two gods, are asked to forward these pleas for rain.

Is it possible to have too much information about them? You say repeatedly it is very hard for people to glimpse them, and then you suggest people have time to go down and toss toys into the river to them. If their appearance is fleeting, this would be very hard to do. So if they are common and seen every day then all this detail is believable, if however they are rare, and so hard to see except at autum or at low water, then we are getting too much detail from a subjective point of view.


Mythology

All over Santharia the myth connects them with Baveras and Grothar. In the South they are the offspring of Baveras, the goddess of water and Grothar, the weather god, in Northern Santharia they are created by Grothar out of moistness and cool air to please Baveras, his lover.
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It would be nice, if somebody else would write a Kuglimz myth (Alysse?) or one originating in the Kanapan belief




Myth/Lore

No recent researcher could document so far the death of a Waterchild nor has there been found a dead one somewhere which could be examined. Secret attempts to catch one with special nets all failed,  because the experiments were disapproved by the local people. But there is plenty of lore about them and not few stories who deal with their death.

So the lore goes, that if in hot summers a smaller waterfall dries out the Waterchild  might be caught in a small crevice, not being able any more to glide down with the water, because there is not left enough. The tiny rivulet in which the waterfall was gushing its water is not suited as a habitat and so the little Watersprog hides in the moistness of a small cave until it is too late. So a lucky traveller who looks out for them might find a dried out one. There is one old fragment of a text in the Library of  Varcopas which reads like this:

„...[The sum]mer had been hot and so I was [able to u]se the dried out creek as a path through the forest up the steep slope. When I had mastered nearly half of the way my eyes caught something unexpected. In a small cave , only about two handspans wide which was well hidden from the sun a small beautiful figure of a young silvery maid  was crouching in the cavity. At first I did not dare to touch it, for it looked so fragile, somehow transparent, like made out of the finest silk or better, out of shining spider web. The arms were twined around the shiny tail, the face partly hidden by hairs which looked as if they were spun out of the finest silver. I couldn‘t help, but tears run down my cheeks as I looked at so much beauty, lovely even in the death. I didn‘t [know wh]at to do first, but then I remembered what my grandmother had told me when I was young: If you find a dead Waterchild, take it very carefully to not to  destroy it and bring her to the next waterfall. If you do so, you will never experience a shortage of good drinking water your whole life. So I carefully...“

That story however explains an unnatural death, but what about the other Maryóns? Some myths of Northern Sarvonia say that they live forever, forever playing and being blissful for they are created by Grothar to please Baveras if she should ever get a bad mood and that then they should remind her to be friendly to all who depend on her.

On the east coast of the Mithral Mountains the parents tell their children that the watersprogs shrink when they die till they are just about a handspan long and quite heavy. Then they sink at the bottom of the waterfall ponds and stay there for ever. Sometimes one can look down in these ponds and is able to see their little white forms turned to white stone.

Nice touch with the calcite deposits.


Researcher

There is no single researcher who could be mentioned here as the leading brain. Micca of Bardavos was seen as being very competent, but with her unsuccessful attempt to proof that they have rituals she stepped back and looked for another realm of activity. Ansird of Necoma spend some time researching them till he found his rivermaids more rewarding. The Maryóns are a thorn in every contemporary researcher‘s flesh, for they elude their wish to hold, investigate and measure exactly, they show very visibly, that not all can be explored or explained.  (and if that were true to this piece, again i would hazard you have too much detail)    Due to their protection through the believes of the common people, that even the attempt to „touch“ them brings misfortune, they are well protected from the direct (surpassing observation only ) pursuits of any investigator anyway.

So the Waterchildren‘s secrets are unresolved till today.





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Rivermaids








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then in the ev‘ning  the weather will surely change.“


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« Reply #10 on: 12 December 2006, 06:59:18 »

Thanks Landre for reading it thoroughly!

You don't need to quote it, just copy/paste and then insert your comments with colour if possible.

Corrected all the wrong grammar (didn't underline that), underlined hopefully all I have changed. I didn't do anything about that objective/subjective though, want to hear another opinion first before I jump into a lot of more work.

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the prose almost reads like a fairy tale at this point, so again is this a straightforward entry axonomic in nature, or is this a nice story about the water maids? It would make a good story either way, but i think you need to choose the tone.

Landre, sorry, but I couldn‘t find, what axonomic (axionomic??) is nor do I know what you mean with axonomic by nature (basing on an axiom?)
Well, I don‘t think, that an entry about one of the more fleeting creatures on Caelereth has to be a dry entry. Especially not when written in medieval times. The boundaries between straight forward fact and description which tries to paint a picture for the reader is not this strict. - It is not the case nowadays either. You should have heard my professor in applied physics, he used quite a descriptive way to enlighten us. I think that even a bit of subjectivity does no harm (see my comment at the top of the swamphags.)



Though the waterchildren are as present in Santharia as the rivermaids, the knowledge about that lovely little creatures is much more scarce.. They live also in smaller waterfalls, but nobody has seen yet a single  (lone? - just one ) (if no one has seen it, and we are subjective view, we wouldn't have that note, if its objective omnipotent then we would) Watersprog as it is possible with rivermaids. There are always at least a few. (again how would you know there is always a few if subjective?)

I have tried to explain it above, don‘t know how to say it clearer: In smaller rivers, where not much food is available, one or two rivermaids can be observed, where there are many in bigger streams. Maryóns do live in smaller waterfalls as well, but there you won‘t find a single one, but always at least a few.

I don‘t get what you want to say with this subjective-objective.



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Landre: Would be interesting if any notes about how they respond when one of their kind is grabbed by a big fish and killed before their eyes?? Maybe give them some sort of magic to ward off predators??

There are no big fish which  catch them - I changed that above to „might be able“ - that doesn‘t mean, that they will catch one in the turbulent water, they would be big enough to do so, if there would not be the water which is so turbulent that it will not allow to hunt them. Even if this would be the case - it could not be observed. It would not be possible to say, if they had magic abilities, for how to prove it? It would be an assumption (not a bad idea!)

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again this reads like a story excerpt, not a fauna description

Disagree here! who wants to read boring descriptions?

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Is it possible to have too much information about them? You say repeatedly it is very hard for people to glimpse them, and then you suggest people have time to go down and toss toys into the river to them. If their appearance is fleeting, this would be very hard to do. So if they are common and seen every day then all this detail is believable, if however they are rare, and so hard to see except at autumn or at low water, then we are getting too much detail from a subjective point of view.

I didn‘t say, the people throw regularly toys in the water. (researchers!) The mass of details - collected over many, perhaps hundred of years? Talia collected all she found in the depths of the library. Seeing them in autumn more easily for a few weeks at certain places (for some minutes maybe only, or only now and then, if you wait long enough till another tail is visibly?) ) doesn‘t mean that they are a common sight. If you see them, you may see only a part of them, a shadow in the water, ... maybe I should there go into more detail.

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« Reply #11 on: 16 December 2006, 04:08:30 »

Guess what color i'm useing eh? I've finished the most urgents bit of my homework, so it's time for the promised checkup of one of your Mer! Off we go on a; grammar checkup! ( as most other issues have already been taken care of.. )

Don‘t say, this is not possible, I have the idea of a small fish which lives in - waterfalls.


The  Maryón (Watersprogs)




Overview

The Sarvonian Maryón, Marchuhányón (??? waterfall maids) , waterchildren or watersprogs  as they are named by the common people are of the same race and general appearance  as the merfolk or rivermaids and share most of their body-characteristics: a humanoid upper torso and a fishlike tail. They are much smaller and/as well as more fragile looking, but nevertheless they seem to move effortlessly in their challenging habitat, the waterfalls and pools at the base of the falls. If they can still be called sentient is discussed hotly.




(white-water-maid would be cool as well, but how would one add the three words: aelién, már, yón??)


 

Appearance

The waterchildren are without doubt the sweetest of the fishtailed race. this seems to imply they TASTE sweetly.. Most time of the year it is hard to observe them in the turbulent white water they inhabit, but occasionally they come to the surface of the fall-ponds they  live in;pick a place for them to live.. this states they live in fall ponds, the ebove states they live in the waterfall itself hours upon hours of waiting for them is then rewarded with a sight unsurpassed"unsurpassed by XXXX" or "with an unsurpassable sight" (i prefer the first option). The best opportunity to watch them is when the rivers are low on water in autumn, then one might be even able to see one quite closely - if one dares to get near enough to the still dangerous waters.


I don‘t understand your distinction between subjective and objective here. Where is the differenrce between : „They (the maryón) were observed or „One was able to observe“ . Both is „objective“, if you want so. If I would write „I (as a researcher) have observed“, then this would be subjective, for this might be a single case only and distorted through my belief, tribe‘s tradiotion or whatever. „They were“ and „One ..“ suggests both a certain distance, even if there was one observation only as well.

Maybe this is not correct from the point of modern languistic, but I hope a medieval researcher does not have to be so strict.



They share many characteristics with the rivermaids: a humanoid body, but with childlike breasts, which look more muscled than female, teats are not visible and there is no navel; a fishtail, though this is quite a bit different than those of their sisters living in the river and the sea; long flowing hair. They don‘t need to change their colour like the rivermaids, but have always the same breathtaking appearance: A silvery fishtail with a pronounced scalelike pattern; an alabaster coloured upper body which seems to be light dusted with powdered Mithryl (previous formulation sounded awkward)l; delicate little faces with huge eyes, a small noses and colourless lips ;and long silvery hair, floating around them like a veil. The somehow strange looking eyes which seem to have no ciliawhat are cillia? is there no easier word for this? are always of a light hue, often a light sou‘cald blue, sometimes a vontromarin or grey. The watersprogs always smile whenever there is somebody who watches them. Because of their small size - they grow only up to two fores - the little pointed teeth are not as disturbing as the ones of the rivermaids.

Their tails are special. They have two pronounced flukes which can be moved individually. The whole tail is covered with more or less small suckers which could be taken for scales at the first sight.this suggest the suckers are more or less small.. was this what you intended? It is extremely bendable and tough at the same time. Their arms are long and slender; pronounced fins, relatively larger than those of the mermaids, with bony extensions between the thin, half-transparent and silvery glistening  skin, stretch along the backs of their arms;  the  fine webbing between each of the slim, but sturdy fingers seems to be covered with tiny suckers as is the whole hand.inconsequent terms of certainty. the webbing SEEMS to be covered.... AS IS the whole hand

Waterchildren are of different sizesuggestion; can be found in varying/different sizes, but whether the smaller ones are younger, nobody knows. Similar to the Rivermaids, they do not seem to have different genders. But where the rivermaids are clearly female looking, the  waterchildren look like --? children.


The overall impression is that of a lightness in their appearance. They float in the water as if they would fly, they climb and jump up waterfalls as if they would have no weight.  While in the water their alabaster bodies seem to be as transparent as the element they live in, deceiving the eyes if one wishes to have a closer look. At times they love to jump out of the water like the dolpholk, the little fishtails then splash the water surface creating  a fountain of water drops. There is no more fulfilling sight as a couple of waterchildren playing in the  sunshine. Why is this fulfilling?


Habitat and Territory

Maryóns are found in many waterfalls of Sarvonia which run along a steep rock slope. As long as the water is not tossing freely all the way down to the ground but  hitting the rock during its way down to the base, watersprogs - so researchers assume  - will live there , though they are very rarely discovered.
The best place for them are rivers streaming down quickly, but from boulder to boulder. So the Sharadon Falls are famous for their big population of these lovely creatures as the rapids of Marcogg, but other South Sarvonian river falls  like the falls on the east coast of the Mithral Mountains are inhabited by them as well, suggestion; add 'also' they are present in the Valley of the Brownies and live at the base of the Anaios Gap.



Mode of Living

As already mentioned, the best opportunity to watch the Watersprogs is when the rivers are low on water in autumn and rocks in the middle of the rapids appear which are normally covered with water during the rest of the year. Then one is able to observe their astonishing skill to move up the falls despite the pressure of the water masses.  Their so slender and elegantly looking arms and hands have no problems to hold on to the slippery rocks, their tail is pressed to the stone and in the tiniest cavity, their fins at the back of their arms are spread out widely. . While the strong hands  hold on the rock, the tail is drawn nearer to the body and fixed again at the underground, then the whole body booms up   - always as close to the rocks as possible -  and the hands search for the next grip. When having mastered the climb up the fall, they seem to enjoy to mount the now visible rocks in the middle of the still fast streaming water. This is the only opportunity to see them in all their glory, but not for long, for unlike the rivermaids they don‘t seem to need these times out of their wet element.

Reason for these waterfall acrobatics are the plants which grow there and are assumed to be their main diet. However,  they are seen to catch now and then a smaller fish as well in the basins below the falls.

Nobody knows, where they are sleeping, in the pond at the base of the fall or in a crevice in the wall behind the waterfall where the draw (?) of the water is not as tight as farther out. Where the winters are so cold, that even the falling water freezes, they hibernate as their sisters, the rivermaids, probably at the bottom of the pond. perhaps you could suggest they could be not sleeping at all?


Waterchildren are funny people, even more than rivermaids. It is a joy to watch them how they move up the falls. It looks as if removed 'it' a competition color=red] of "who is at the top first?" is held[/color] and it is allowed to push (free interpretation of what i THINK you are saying here) those competitors already falling behind even further down the falls. Finally most have fallen down into the pond at the base, so that only a few are left. However, they find it obviously boring up there, so that they join the others by jumping down as well - using the white and green waters as if they would be a slide. Sometimes even their laughter and giggling can be heard, distant and sweet like little bells, though most times the roaring noises of the falling waters deprive the observer of this treat.


Though the waterchildren are as present in Santharia as the rivermaids, the knowledge about that lovely little creatures is much scarcer.. They also live in smaller waterfalls, but nobody has seen yet a single (lone? - just one )Watersprog as it is possible with rivermaids. Suggested replacement sentence; but unlike Rivermaids, nobody has ever seen a solitary Watersprog.There are always at least a few.

If there is a family structure or any organising of this group, a single member who tells the others what to do it does so unnoticably, as nothing at all could be derived from the observations of their plays. It looks as if they have such a merry life, that they don‘t need any organising. There are no predators in the waterfalls and only very rarely a big fish in the ponds who might be able to catch one of the little ones in the tossing, turbulent water. Occasionally one sees a young bird of prey picking one out of the water, but for unknown reasons, these are always immediately dropped back again..

Researchers have tried to find out if the sentient Maryóns have anything which resembles a festivity or any rituals which occur at certain times, but every time somebody claimed to have found something and colleagues were coming to prove it, the watersprogs behaved differently. (*)

*So Micca of Bardavos, possible the most famous Maryón researcher, invited colleagues from Varcopas to New Santhala to come to the Sharadon Falls to approve following  observation: Each morning, when the sun started to shine fully on the top of the falls, all watersprogs gathered there and after a time of swimming up there (and possibly proving that they could withstand the force of the water pulling them down) suddenly all jumped down the falls. This happened from spring to autumn every single day. But not so, when the first visitors arrived to confirm it. Fortunately many other Bardavos citizens had seen it as well, so they confirmed her claim. However, it made her only famous as the one who was stultified by her object of study.



Language

The Watersprogs communicate with each other which can be clearly seen when they sit on the rocks at the tops of some falls, they move their lips and emit noises which are obviously understood by their sisters. But through the inaudibility -  caused by the tossing water masses -  which is most times the case,  research has not found any clues, how the spoken language works nor is it understood. Some accompanying gestures can be seen and interpreted like a waving with the arms or a spreading and closing of their fins, which can signal: “Come let‘s jump down“,  but not more.
A few times it could be observed though, that the rivermaids can obviously communicate with their smaller sisters, the Maryóns, however, this happens so rarely, that nothing can be said about it with certainty.



Relation to other races

To say there are relations to other races  denies the fact, that these relation are quite one-sided. Apart from the occasionally talking of a rivermaid with a Waterchild most times the Maryón are just observed, be it human, dwarf or elf. The watersprogs are seeing the people at the rim of the river, ,a short eye contact was  established in a few cases where the Maryón was near enough, a little waterchild near the boarder of a stream may even grin to a curious watcher for a short moment, but generally they take no notice of what happens outside their water. There is no waving to the bypassing traveller like the rivermaids sometimes do it, no fleeing if a brave young person dares to go to the very edge of a torrent to see the waterchildren as close as possible. They don‘t react, if their only enemy, young birds of prey , are coming for them to catch one out of the water. Some researchers tried to catch their interest by throwing toys into the water like balls, wreaths of flowers or similar gewgaw, but to no avail. The watersprogs might have even caught the ball, but after a few blinks it was abandoned. It is as if the „outside“ world does not exist for them or is at least not of interest.

Though the waterchildren take not much interest in the outside world or other races,  humans, elves and hobbits are fond of them and many tales and stories are told about them. They have found their way in the daily life of the other sentient races,  be it with sayings or prediction of the weather and the like.
The Maryón‘s  life is in the eyes of many tougher than that of the rivermaids- with the hardship of having to climb up the waterfalls to get to their food  - but  they eradicate such a blitheness when being watched, that they became the epitome of happiness. „Merry as a Watersprog“ or „Your are behaving like a Maryón!“ when children frollick around and do not want to stop when asked to, are just two of many other proverbs describing friskiness.  Or „If a Maryón can climb up a water fall, you will be able to do....“ a hint, that a given task should be not too difficult for somebody.

However, their significance is even greater. They are not only a symbol for blitheness, unreachable for most, but generally stand for something which is beautiful and desired, but out of reach, for the creed, that one cannot have all one would wish to have. That may be caused through the impossibility to watch them closely.  Their constant movement in the streaming water which deceives the eyes anyway, the colour and consistence  of their skin - all works together that the impression of something which evades our senses is created. Even if they are sitting for a short time on the rocks in a rapid, the sun‘s rays are reflected in a way, that they seem not entirely part of our world. They stand for beauty which cannot be touched - which is even forbidden to be touched. So the strong taboo to try to catch them can be explained, though any attempts would probably fail anyway. 

The sight of waterchildren brings luck, at least that is what many people believe who come to places where they can be observed on a more regular basis like in Bardavos, were the Sharadon Falls are home for many. Especially when lacking rain lets the fields get dry and the harvest is in danger, many farmer and other common folk travel to places where they reside to get a glimpse of a few. Prayers to Baveras and Grothar, written by clerics on little pieces of bark are thrown into the water. The waterchildren, as offspring of these two gods, are asked to forward these pleas for rain.


Mythology

All over Santharia the myth connects them with Baveras and Grothar. In the South they are the offspring of Baveras, the goddess of water and Grothar, the weather god, in Northern Santharia they are created by Grothar out of moistness and cool air to please Baveras, his lover.
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It would be nice, if somebody else would write a Kuglimz myth (Alysse?) or one originating in the Kanapan belief




Myth/Lore

No recent researcher could document so far the death of a Waterchild nor has there been found a dead one somewhere which could be examined. Secret attempts to catch one with special nets all failed,  because the experiments were disapproved by the local people. But there is plenty of lore about them and not few stories who deal with their death.

So the lore goes, that if in hot summers a smaller waterfall dries out the Waterchild  might be caught in a small crevice, not being able any more to glide down with the water, because there is not left enough. The tiny rivulet in which the waterfall was gushing its water is not suited as a habitat and so the little Watersprog hides in the moistness of a small cave until it is too late. So a lucky traveller who looks out for them might find a dried out one. There is one old fragment of a text in the Library of  Varcopas which reads like this:

„...[The sum]mer had been hot and so I was [able to u]se the dried out creek as a path through the forest up the steep slope. When I had mastered nearly half of the way my eyes caught something unexpected. In a small cave , only about two handspans wide which was well hidden from the sun a small beautiful figure of a young silvery maid  was crouching in the cavity. At first I did not dare to touch it, for it looked so fragile, somehow transparent, like made out of the finest silk or better, out of shining spider web. The arms were twined around the shiny tail, the face partly hidden by hairs which looked as if they were spun out of the finest silver. I couldn‘t help, but tears run down my cheeks as I looked at so much beauty, lovely even in the death. I didn‘t [know wh]at to do first, but then I remembered what my grandmother had told me when I was young: If you find a dead Waterchild, take it very carefully to not to  destroy it and bring her to the next waterfall. If you do so, you will never experience a shortage of good drinking water your whole life. So I carefully...“

That story however explains an unnatural death, but what about the other Maryóns? Some myths of Northern Sarvonia say that they live forever, forever playing and being blissful for they are created by Grothar to please Baveras if she should ever get a bad mood and that then they should remind her to be friendly to all who depend on her.

On the east coast of the Mithral Mountains the parents tell their children that the watersprogs shrink when they die till they are just about a handspan long and quite heavy. Then they sink at the bottom of the waterfall ponds and stay there for ever. Sometimes one can look down in these ponds and is able to see their little white forms turned to white stone.



Researcher

There is no single researcher who could be mentioned here as the leading brain. Micca of Bardavos was seen as being very competent, but with her unsuccessful attempt to proof that they have rituals she stepped back and looked for another realm of activity. Ansird of Necoma spend some time researching them till he found his rivermaids more rewarding. The Maryóns are a thorn in every contemporary researcher‘s flesh, for they elude their wish to hold, investigate and measure exactly, they show very visibly, that not all can be explored or explained. Due to their protection through the believes of the common people, that even the attempt to „touch“ them brings misfortune, they are well protected from the direct (surpassing observation only ) pursuits of any investigator anyway.

So the Waterchildren‘s secrets are unresolved till today.





More:
Swamphags and Moorcrocks
Rivermaids









Entries where they need to be added:

Marcogg
Toran‘s Falls (done)
Bardavos (later)
Nirmenith Falls (later)
Ravenwing Falls
Nepris??


„If in the morning the watersprog‘s dancing‘s strange,
then in the ev‘ning  the weather will surely change.“


Well, that was about it. I found a number of oddly constructed sentences which have been corrected, or have been given replacement suggestions.  Needless to say i find both idea as execution wonderfull, and i will surely be turning to you once the Nybel;mer move to the 'active' bit of my scedule!

-Mira
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« Reply #12 on: 20 December 2006, 00:11:48 »

Mira, thank you a lot!

I didn't add new colours,  because I simply took all what you presented me except the following, where I have a last question..


Why I didn‘t change some things:


 sight unsurpassed: is possible

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The Paleolithic hunters who painted the unsurpassed animal murals on the ceiling of the cave at Altamira had only rudimentary tools.

In addition - adjectives can be placed after the substantive to highlighten their importance


Sweet can well be used in other relations as with sugar -
# adjective:   pleasing to the senses

    Example: "The sweet song of the lark"



See use of semicolon above

cilia are eyelashes, but I think it sounds nice - why should not somebody else than me have to learn a new word now and then?


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There is no more fulfilling sight as a couple of waterchildren playing in the  sunshine. Mira :Why is this fulfilling?

- because they are as they are? Just the feeling of happiness when you see them? Maybe I got the wrong adjective.




Mira: (free interpretation of what i THINK you are saying here) those competitors already falling behind even further down the falls.

well, I wanted to say the opposite: those not in the first place grab the ankles of those in front of them and cause their fall. Of course it could be the opposite as well: those who are in the llead try to get rid of the ones which follow close up.

Any other suggestion?

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i   to rollick       herumtollen   i
i   to rollick       ausgelassen


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« Reply #13 on: 20 December 2006, 12:33:29 »

I thought the Myth/Lore section was particularly beautiful and poignant...

'lovely even in death' (omit the 'the')



"why should not somebody else than me have to learn a new word now and then?"

LOL!   Although I completely agree with you, just remember that some more technical words may have inexact CONNOTATIONS, even if the dictionary definition is supposedly precise.   'cilia' are indeed 'fringes', but they are generally found around the exterior of single-celled organisms, like flagelates or little 'whips' to help the animacule move... 

If you'd like one further Uri-check, let me know and I'll MAKE the time, because this is so poetically written it would be a shame not to fine-tune it to the utmost.

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« Reply #14 on: 20 December 2006, 17:34:33 »

Convinced, Judy            (OH, I'm still thinking at this waterfall incident!)
I will write eyelashes.

And thanks for your praise, it means a lot for me, especially if it comes from you :)

Well, if you want to take your time, I would be glad (though I'm slowly running out of time to correct it! All the cookies for Christmas have been eaten up and I need to bake new ones!)

Please look at the part about relations to other races in the rivermaids entry as well, there I invented something you might not like ;) (it is only one short paragraph)
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