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« on: 03 November 2009, 05:20:14 »

Ok, a complete re-write of my tribe's religion. Included are divine magic practices! Woo!


Caption: An image depicting the five primal spirits of the To'ava: Tree, Water, Earth, Sun and Darkness.

•  Overview

The Kaaer’dar’shin half-orcen tribe of Northern Sarvonia are a deeply spiritual people who revere both nature and the hunt. Their religion is known as the "To'ava'yarna" (Kaaer lit. "Natural or primal spirit way"). They respect the wilds' savage instincts and believe that the world is nurtured by five primal nature spirits called the "To'ava". These spirits each represent an aspect of nature that encompasses the surrounding living world. Represented are the Tree (or Beast), Earth, Water, Light (sun) and Darkness (moon and death). The To'ava is lead by one "male gendered" spirit considered the oldest and most powerful called Durgho. He is typically represented in the form of a tree or wolf. The Kaaer believe that each member of the tribe is born with the essence of one of these natural aspects. Through meditation, prayer, songs, the use of totems and successful hunts, every Kaaer's natural spiritual essence grows in power and eventually they obtain the gift to perform divine magic by bringing forth their spirits' power.

•  Prevalence

The to'ava'yarna beliefs are practiced primarily by the half-orcen tribe of the Kaaer'dár'shín in the Northern Sarvonian peninsula of Caaehl'heroth. All three of the Kaaer clans living in the Caaehl'heroth peninsula practice the belief, including some smaller Other-Oc clans living in the Mt Osthen region.

•  Coat of Arms

The tribe's coat of arms is a runic type symbol with images representing the primal spirits. The tree (or pendrowe) symbolizes Durgho. The larger circle behind the tree represents Light (sun). The small circle within the larger one represents Darkness (moon). The wavy line underneath represents both the Earth and the Water.

•  Belief Outlines

A Kaaer'dar'shin legend story known as "The Mask Unearthed" tells how a wise shamut named Krull'mor discovered a powerful relic (unknown to them to actually be elven in origin) known as the Mask of the Tree Cousin in 1300 a.S. Krull'mor donned the mask he found and was immediately given gifts of wisdom and foresight. It was then, he later claimed, that the primal spirits of the world spoke to him and instructed him to lead his people in reverence of nature. The Kaaer belief system was born. After living under many generations of harsh orcen and dark elven rule, the Kaaer had finally found a path with which to journey upon their own.

The Primal Self ("Yarna")

The Kaaer believes that each member born of the tribe (regardless of clan) inherits an essence derived from each of the To’ava primal spirits. These spirits (some would say souls) together are called a “Yarna”.

The Nature of the Yarna

Each yarna is identified as an essence of one of the primal spirits. Each spirit of nature represents specific gifts, or areas of power. As children, each Kaaer develops their own walk in life with interests and talents of their own. The Kaaer do not believe that this process is accidental or random; rather they believe that a particular To’ava leads them along their path in life. For example, a sympathetic young girl with a gift for comforting and aiding wounded is believed to be strong with the To’ava Benapryl, or the representation of Water (healing). A boy may be particularly talented with building and crafts and thus is strong with the To’ava Gynturg, or the representation of Earth (craftsman). The following representations are described below:

Beast Yarna - War, combat, tracking, animal husbandry, skinning and cooking. Those strong with the beast yarna are said to be capable warriors and hunters of the tribe. They are trained in the use of weapons, tactics and are responsible for keeping the animals.

Earth Yarna - Harvesters, gardening, food preparation, planting, caretakers of the forest. Those strong with the earth yarna tend the fields and are especially close to the pendrowe of the Themed'lon. They are the builders, craftsmen and artisans of the tribe.

Water Yarna - Healers, comforters, soothers of the mind. These gifted are trained in the use of medicinal herbs and salves. They possess a talent for calming the mind and are a soothing influence.

Light Yarna - The gift of the light yarna are few, for they are blessed with great wisdom and leadership skills. Most shamuts are of light yarna and are responsible for passing down the lore and history of the tribe.

Dark Yarna - While the darkness may be deemed something negative in other cultures, the Kaaer believe the dark is just as important as the light. Those with the dark yarna are responsible for communicating with the dead and performing funerary rituals.

Manifesting the Yarna

The tribe has come to believe that harnessing the yarna can be done using a "sentinel stone" (Kaaer lit. "to’vatar"). A to’vatar is a physical carving representing a piece of nature such as a tree or animal. A to'vatar can be carved from different materials - stone, bone or wood. They can come in various sizes with some being as small as an amulet worn around the neck to a large animal relief carved upon a boulder. To properly channel the yarna’s power, one must believe that the to’vatar can "activate" the yarna (and by extension, Durgho) to perform the manifestation of its particular power. The power of the combined to'vatar and the yarna can manifest itself in one of several ways: the healing of wounds and illnesses, communication with the spirits of nature (such as the pendrowe using the Mask of the Tree Cousin). The Mist Hunters of Osthemangar are said to employ protective to’vatars that shield their minds from the dark maladies of the Mists and other Netherworld creatures. Outsider scholars have classified these manifestations as “magic”, but the tribe does not recognize that term. Instead, what outsiders call magic, the tribe simply sees inherent and natural extensions of what can be seen and felt in supernatural form.

•  Origins

The early Kaaer'dar'shin beliefs consisted of violent warfare and savage hunting practices. The tribe was at war not only with the Osther-Oc but with each other. The turn from this barbarism has not curbed the tribe's wild nature nor has it made them any less "warrior-like". Instead, the To'ava'Yarna faith has given the tribe a much wider source of wisdom and allowed them to make full use of nature's powers. Scholars attribute this particular aspect of the tribe’s current faith similar to the one practiced by the Lost Ones, the sect of Injerin druids who settled the Themed’lon ages ago. They left behind a powerful legacy in the forest in the form of the pendrowe and the drasil as well as the Mask of the Tree Cousin. Their sacred Singing Grove and natural rock-formed temples within the forest demonstrated a greater power in nature.

The tribe began their life violently during the Third Sarvonian War. The Osther-Oc, led by the dark elves and other monstrosities, took it upon themselves to violate and pillage the human settlers that had unknowingly made their home directly in the path of the dark friends. The Kuglimz settlers of the Themed’lon, as well as the Antislar of nearby Anif, were caught up in the wave of orcs that swept south. Rather than kill the humans, they were instead enslaved and forced to build weapons of war. Over time, the orcs interbred with the humans creating a race of half-breeds that eventually grew into a tribe all their own.

Initially, the humans were forced to practice the orcen beliefs. This was soon rejected as the humans tried to keep their old beliefs alive. Over time, the people practiced a mixed system, one rooted in savagery and barbaric hunting. It was during this time that Durgho was born as a violent, blood-thirsty god who could only be appeased by killing. The shamuts at that time taught that only the strong survive, by killing and violence. The internal tension escalated and led to a period of civil war in 1250 a.S. as various clans of the tribe vied for power. It was not until one shamut named Krull'mor saw the wisdom in turning away from such bloodthirsty ways and embarked on a journey to learn a new way (as told in the myth "The Mask Unearthed"). He discovered the Mask of the Tree Cousin and he claimed to have spoken to a new representation of Durgho. This was a very new direction for the tribe. Many of the tribe resisted this new faith and it took over 300 years of internal conflict and patient debate to convert most of the tribe.

With the civil war over, most of the tribe turned to rebuilding. Out of Durgho was born his children: Suriot (lit. "Father [of] Light"), Leirgor (lit. "Mother [of] Darkness"), Gynturg (lit. "Brother [of] Stone") and Bynapyrl (lit. "Sister [of] Water"). Durgho represents the beasts and birds and the yarna of each person. It is said that the new direction was revealed to Krull'mor through a special tree within the Themed’lon’s Singing Grove. This tree is thought to be the drasil memory tree that passed down the ancient practices of the Lost Ones.

•  Spirits Overview

In addition to the yarna dwelling within each object or living entity of nature, the Kaaer’dar’shin also revere a group of greater powers. The living world is broken down into five distinct circles, each one given a name.

Durgho (lit. "First One")

Represented by the pendrowe or wolf, Durgho oversees all manner of nature and is as old as the world itself. He is often referred to by the male gender and is known as the "First One". He appears in tribal pictures and to’vatars as a grand tree. Durgho created the world from a dream, according to the Kaaer shamuts. Coincidentally, the elven origins are similar as their belief teaches that Ava dreamed the world into existence. Scholars attribute this origin stemming from the elven Lost Ones belief. Nevertheless, Durgho is a separate spirit, often classified as a “primal spirit”. It is from Durgho that all yarna are a part of.

Suriot (lit. "Father [of] Light")

Durgho named its first child the Suriot (lit. "Father [of] Light"). The Suriot took to the sky to make light for the world and provide warmth and sustenance for its future brothers and sisters. By the will of Durgho does the sun shine, but in all things, there is an opposite. This is the darker, silent child known as the "Mother Darkness".

Leirgor (lit. "Mother Darkness")

The silent, brooding child of Durgho comes forth at night and is named Leirgor (lit. "Mother Darkness"). The sky children get equal measure in the world as decreed by Durgho and Leirgor represents darkness and sleep. Leirgor is revered for her cover of darkness while hunting, war and death. She is sometimes regarded as the "evil" spirit, or one whose plans are not of Durgho. Certain dark rituals involve the to'vatars created in the name of Leirgor to commit evil acts of murder or abuse of the sleeping spirits (dead souls).

Gynturg (lit. "Brother [of] Stone")

Durgho’s third child was the earth itself, Gynturg (lit. "Brother [of] Stone"), and was the land for which the tribe could roam. Gynturg became a vast expanse of wilderness under his siblings, the Suriot and Leirgor. Durgho then placed his people upon the Stone Brother's shoulders to live, hunt and worship.

Bynapyrl (lit. "Sister [of] Water")

The Bynapyrl (lit. "Sister [of] Water") was born next to provide further nourishment to the people. Flowing cold, swift and clean, the Swift Sister takes no shape and knows no peace. Always moving, the Swift Sister is born from its Stone Brother and makes its paths upon the earth's shoulders. Together, the four children exist to provide for the people.

•  Worshiping Practices

The Way of Durgho ("Johl do Durgho")

The process to harness and manifest one’s yarna is a lifelong process. Faithful works throughout one's life is called the "Way of Durgho" (Kaaer lit. "Johl do Durgho"). Some are more faithful than others in learning to hear their internal yarna. Shamuts are seen as the most powerful and in tune with their yarna (and by extension, Durgho). Daily rituals, prayers and works of honor to Durgho are required to successfully manifest and hear a yarna. The creation of to’vatars is also a required act of honor in order to fully manipulate Durgho’s gifts. Rituals consist of group prayers, days alone within the Singing Glade, hunting dangerous creatures, or teaching others. For warriors, it is deemed an honor to slay one’s enemies in combat. Mothers are taught that successful child rearing is also a daily act of faith in Durgho. Shamuts conduct all manner of rituals to grasp their yarna’s power.

The Sentinel ("To’vatar")

As explained above, the Kaaer'dar'shin believe that the “yarna” are the primal spirits of nature living within each member born of the tribe. In order for Durgho to manifest himself through each yarna, it is required that the spirit be channeled through a physical representation known as a to'vatar.

But first, one must recognize and commune with their yarna regularly before the gifts can manifest themselves. This is done through ritual, prayer, and deeds of worth. Not every deed must be grand and heroic. Some can be as simple as caring for another in order to manifest the gift of healing. Some focus on warfare, such as the warriors of the tribe, and manifest gifts of prowess and strength. Others practice wisdom and foresight, two valuable traits of a shamut.

It is said that not every Kaaer is capable, or willing, to draw forth their yarna. That is acceptable, but not encouraged. Still, some choose to live a life without regular communion with Durgho, but all recognize him as supreme regardless.  

Examples of various to’vatar and their related gifts are as follows:

The Stone To’vatar – Stones can be carved and made into different symbols or represent certain things. Often, these to’vatars channel strength of body and will. Warrior faithful favor these to’vatars for use in battle. When used, it is said that the body is granted strength of body, able to lift and wield and fight as ten men. Strength of mind gives the user courage and will to face dangers.

The Beast To’vatar -  This to’vatar can come in the shapes of many varieties of animal, from bird to insect to wolf. Often, the power channeled through these objects takes the form of the beast itself, be it stealth as an uncil cat or tough skin as a Tsor-shotak lizard. It is said that truly rare gifts bestowed through this to’vatar is the ability to shift into the animal form itself. This myth is perpetuated by stories of the feylja shapeshifter, commonly told throughout the North. These to’vatars are made from animal bone decorated with hide, feathers or hair of the beast being channeled.

Wood or Tree To’vatars – Made from the wood of a tree, specifically a pendrowe or drasil. These to’vatars often take the form of a mask and grant communication with the trees. The most powerful wood to’vatar is the Mask of the Tree Cousin, a relic of old rumored to have been made long ago by the Lost Ones druids. Lost in myth and time, the Mask of the Tree Cousin is said to rest deep within the Themed’lon in the center of the sacred Singing Grove.

Water To'vatar - Any representation of water often signifies healing, purity and cleanliness. To'vatars of this type are often made from smooth, bluish colored stone carved with pictures of a wave. When manipulated by a faithful yarna, the Byna to'ava releases healing powers upon the wounded of body and mind. Pain relief and cleansing of toxins is within the power of this to'vatar.

War To'vatars

The War Buckler (“T'lark”) - The traditional war buckler is considered to be a warrior's to'vatar. The shield is made by the warrior and blessed of the shamut. The warrior is expected to be vigilant, protective and strong in battle. As such the t'lark is made from all of the spiritual elements. Wood, stones, and animal hides decorate the buckler. This is a highly revered type of to'vatar and one that the warrior keeps all of his life.

The War Dagger (“Re’voq”) - The dagger used by the Kaaer is considered a to'vatar and is used in conjuction with the war buckler. The blade is unusual in that it is carved from the bone of the deadly tsor-shotak lizard. This creature is considered sacred to the half-orcs and is hunted for not only its bone, but also its hide and meat. The entire dagger is carved from bone with the handle often wrapped in strips of the lizard's hide.

The Casting of Spell

The size of a sentinel stone has been shown affect the power of the manifested spirit. Typically, those learned in the ways of casting the spirits’ powers possess a small to’vatar in the form of an amulet, ring or bracelet. As well, a re’voq (dagger) or t’lark (shield) also can channel power. In order to cast a “spell” (compendiumist note: the word spell is used for lack of a better term), the believer must first have faith in themselves and the To’ava whom they are calling. Willpower and strength of mind also play a part. The to’vatar is grasped and held before the caster and within moments, the spirit manifests itself in a way depending on the specific to’avatar and the yarna.

For example, a woman strong with the Water yarna and possessing of a water to’vatar focuses on her stone and with faith and willpower, can cast healing magic upon a wounded warrior or animal. Depending on the casters’ strength in their yarna, the wound may cease bleeding only to give time to bandage it, or the wound may close itself without any other aid.

Stories are told among some orcen and Antislar clans that the Kaaer have the power to shapeshift into beasts. While no witness outside of the clan has ever been known to have witnessed such an extraordinary display of power, it is believed by the Injerin ranger and explorer Saryas Kelweather that the gift to turn into beasts comes from the Beast to’ava (or Durgho). He has surmised that such magic is probably rare and only available to the strongest and most faithful of the Kaaer people. He believes that certain beast stones can bestow the caster to change into an uncil cat, snow wolf or even an eagle.


Rituals

Rituals of various kinds are all a part of the life of a Kaaer'dar'shin. Young ones are trained from the age of five years to understand their responsibilities to the yarna and to Durgho. Adults are encouraged to continue practicing their faith to receive the gifts of Durgho. Only the most faithful can attain powerful yarna, and often, they become warrior leaders and shamuts. Those who fail or refuse to remain faithful lose the ability to cast magic.

The Rite of Passage ("Hul'to gar")

This ritual is the first formal ceremony a young Kaaer experiences. Parents of young children begin by explaining the yarna and tell of the myths of Durgho. Then, groups of children are taken before the shamut and formally introduced to the teachings of their yarna. The shamut speaks of ancient myths of creation and how Durgho created the world. The children learn of their own responsibilities to Durgho and how to harness their own yarna. The children are seated in a circle, usually outdoors in the Singing Grove for up to three days (this is typically the only time a Kaaer ever enters the sacred grove except for funerary ceremonies). This is also the time when the child receives their yarna'melar, or Sleep Stone.

War Blessing ("Hul'to gar")

New warriors, or those wishing to become warriors, undergo this ritual to give them courage in the coming battles that they will face. Since not all members of the tribe become warriors, this is a special ritual for them alone. The shamut or head warrior introduces them to the to'vatars they need for battle. They are encouraged to create a stone avatar, usually carved with a relief of a sword or arrow. This stone to'vatar is called the "Gyn to'ava". The warriors are encouraged and taught the proper blessings and prayers to receive the gift of Gyn'turg (Stone Brother).

Joining of Two ("Ahl'grobar")

This ceremony celebrates the joining of two people in marriage. The ritual involves a grand celebration among the family clan. It also represents not only the joining of two physical bodies, but also the joining of two yarna. Joined couples are encouraged and taught to harness their yarna together to achieve a closer relationship with Durgho. A special to'vatar called a "Ahl to'ava" is made especially for the couple by the shamut, usually from pendrowe wood and river stones. It is a type of water to'vatar that represents life and growth. Typically, a male and female Kaaer mate for life. Should one or both of them break the joining, a shamut can formally make this official. However, a voluntary breaking of the Ahl'grobar is highly discouraged and may lead to a loss of Durgho's gifts.

Earth Sleep or Death ("Gyn'olorar")

This is the funeral ceremony conducted when a tribal member dies. All members, regardless of status, are entitled to a Gyn'olorar ceremony. The name stems from sleeping within the earth as the dead are buried within the Themed'lon in a sacred burial ground. Their gyn'olorar, or sleeping stone, is believed to house the deceased's yarna and is placed in the care of a pendrowe. Under special circumstances, under times of need or crisis, the family member under the guidance of one strong with dark yarna, can communicate with the dead or call upon their spiritual gifts for a time. Once done, the stone must be placed back in its original resting place.

Death Sleep ("Leirgor gro olorar")

Traditionally, the dead are to be invoked in times of need by the dead's kin. However, there are recorded events that tell when a shamut or powerful dark yarna faithful takes the dead to use for their own ends. This is forbidden. One legend goes that a shamut, probably mad from ghun'tlor disease, stole several sleep stones and called upon the spirits of the dead. The mad shamut's twisted and tainted yarna was able to summon spirits that he used to murder several members of his clan. This sort of vile ritual is called the "Leirgor gro olorar" (lit. "Death sleep"). Often in such dark works, the name of Leirgor is invoked as she represents darkness and death (or earth sleep).
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« Reply #1 on: 04 November 2009, 01:40:17 »

Ok, ready for comments!

Alot of what is here is shaman divine magic, derived from to'avatars (totems). I made it so that anyone with strong of faith can actually use the magic and not just restricted to shamuts. Although, undoubtedly, shamuts are the most powerful. But, anyone with a certain power of faith and a strong yarna (spirit) can harness the power of a to'avatar to heal, restore strength or even speak to the dead.  ;)
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« Reply #2 on: 09 November 2009, 21:56:05 »

Azhira, then let‘s go over this! I‘m commenting n the way, so it might well be, that some comments are worthless, because you explain it later. I‘m just writing down my thoughts while reading.

Maybe read my last comment first!

first half:


•  Overview

The Kaaer’dar’shin half-orcen tribe of Northern Sarvonia has experienced a wide range of cultural changes in their relatively short history. Their religious beliefs and practices are only now beginning to formally mature into a solid basis of living for their people.

Are you describing something which is only forming now, at its beginning and will experience major changes in the not so far future ? Do you really want to say, that their former practises were ‚unripe‘? From which point of view do you judge this? Influenced through your own Santharian religion, comparing? (I take now the new Azhira CD)
Do you perhaps want to say, that the current state is mature, but was only achieved „recently“?




 Early beliefs of the tribe tended towards barbaric and violent paths, resulting in a tribal civil war that nearly wiped out the tribe. If not for the wisdom of one shamut, whose determination to quell the violent tendencies of his people, had not taken shape, the tribe would be vastly different today. Now, it is said, the tribe follows a more peaceful ideal and has gained divine gifts as a reward for their change.

Who says this, outsiders or the Kaeer themselves as well?


What most outsiders would call “magic”, the tribe dismisses such a term.  (grammar? Correlation?) Instead, the basis of the Kaaer’dar’shin belief is in the teaching and harnessing of the internal spirits, an extension of the higher order, to achieve supernatural results. This belief is called “To'ava'Yarna” (lit. “Spirit Way") .

What is the ‚higher order‘

•  Prevalence

One with Durgho is practiced primarily by the half-orc tribe of the Kaaer'dár'shín. This tribe dwells along the southeastern section of the peninsula of Caael'heroth in Northern Sarvonia. The tribe's ancestry consists of the Kuglimz and Antislar humans and the Osther-Oc orcs.

•  Belief Outlines

The tribe, since the end of its civil war, has embraced a more nature-centric belief system as opposed to savagery. Initially, the tribe revered a mix of Kuglimz and orcen faiths, often falling into practicing the more savage orcen faith of that time.

Which belief had the orcs? What the Kuglimz? Maybe a footnote?

However, upon the revelation of Kulk’bek and the Mask of the Tree Cousin, the tribe slowly turned to a new faith rooted and centered in a connection to the power of the wilds. What makes One with Durgho different from druidism is that the power of Durgho is a divine gift without the beliefs in essences and learning arcane philosophies. Also, the Durgho faith is not classified in groups as the druids are. Instead, each member of the tribe already has the potential to manifest Durgho’s gifts with only the need to learn to harness it. This is done through rituals, faith in the to’avatar, and various works and deeds throughout life.

Who is Kulk’bek and what the Mask of the Tree Cousin. You eed to give the reader at least a hint, otherwise he will stop reading soon. And you need to assume, that this is the first entry he reads about the Kaeer.

I assume now, that you have explained that:



“To'ava'la” consists of four major bases of belief:

The "Yarna" (lit. Spirit Self")

Each person born of the tribe inherits an extension of the wilds.

Hu, what is that? Something ONLY they have and no other human or orc and why can this be so? Do they think they have it, or is this confirmed by your researcher, or do they just believe it is so? Or have they discovered something which is heritance of all humans, or at least all human/orc breeds, and only they have discovered how to use it?
You need to explain first, what that is. What form it takes, comes now.


This is in the form of an internal spirit called a “Yarna”. A newborn baby possesses a fully “mature” yarna that dwells within and that must be harnessed and communed with as the child grows. The yarna is believed to be a piece of Durgo, or as the shamuts describe it, the “Ula dor Durgho” (lit. “touch of Durgho”). Each child is special and is encouraged to follow where one’s yarna takes them. The yarna, in a more primitive form, exists in every piece of nature from a blade of grass to stone builders to rushing river of water. Most tribal members can use some sort of “magic” in their work, from weapon makers to child caregivers to speakers of the dead. Often, each family has a specialization that they practice. Some use the gift of hunting, some fighting, some are wise while some are simply good caretakers of others or things. By failing to recognize one’s yarna regularly, the spirit grows silent and Durgho’s gifts cannot be called.

The To'avatar (lit. "Watcher or Spirit Self")

Durgho manifests itself in nature. The tribe has come to believe that this harnessing can be done in the form of to’avatars. A to’avatar is a symbol made of a piece of nature, be it a tree, stone or animal carved in wood. To properly channel the yarna’s power, one must hold in faith the to’avatar and allow the yarna (and by extension, Durgho) to perform the physical manifestation of its gift.


That is very academic worded, and therefor hard to understand. Did you mean:

To properly channel the yarna’s power, one must believe in  the to’avatar (that the to‘avatar works as a means to activate your yarna) and allow the yarna (and by extension, Durgho) to perform the .. physical manifestation of its gift. <--- make that a bit more concrete, what that physical manifestation is,  now I have no picture in my head, what it could be, maybe add one or two examples






The gift can manifest itself in one of several ways – healing of wounds and illnesses, communication with the spirits of nature (such as the pendrowe using the Mask of the Tree Cousin). The Mist Hunters of Osthemangar are said to employ protective to’avatars that shield their minds from the dark maladies of the Mists and other Netherworld creatures. Outsider scholars have classified these manifestations as “magic”, but the tribe does not recognize that term. Instead, what outsiders call magic, the tribe simply sees inherent and natural extensions of what can be seen and felt in supernatural form.

The “Yarna’olorar” (lit."Sleeping Stone”)

Upon death, the yarna lives on in special objects called “Yarna’olorar” (lit. "Spirit Sleep Stone”). The stone is a sacred object taken from a river. When the physical body is buried, a funerary ritual is performed within the Singing Glade. This ritual is a calling forth of the deceased yarna to dwell within the yarna’olorar. The stone is then placed at the base of a pendrowe to watch over. Yarna’olorars are usually small, about the size of a hand palm. Whenever possible, each person of the tribe chooses their own stone when they are of age to understand its significance. Should a child or person die before choosing a stone, their closest kin chooses for them. In some cases, a particularly powerful faithful in Durgho can harness the deceased yarna within a yarna’olorar stone. To accomplish this, the stone is placed within a special to’avatar called a “Gyn’olorar” to’ava (lit. “earth-sleep, or death”). Only one of the deceased’s kin can properly use their kin’s sleeping spirit. Typically, the Gyn’olorar is only used for communication with the deceased in times of crisis or great need. The dead are just as much a part of nature as the living. Some scholars would classify this practice as bordering on necromancy, but again, the tribe does not know that term. To them, the practice is natural and essential.

"Johl do Durgho" (lit. "Way of Durgho")

The process to harness and manifest one’s yarna is a lifelong process. Faithful works throughout one's life is called "Johl do Durgho" (lit. "Way of Durgho"). Some are more faithful than others in learning to hear their internal yarna. Shamuts are seen as the most powerful and in tune with their yarna (and by extension, Durgho). Daily rituals, prayers and works of honor to Durgho are required to successfully manifest and hear a yarna. The creation of to’avatars is also a required act of honor in order to fully manipulate Durgho’s gifts. Rituals consist of group prayers, days alone within the Singing Glade, hunting dangerous creatures, or teaching others. For warriors, it is deemed an honor to slay one’s enemies in combat. Mothers are taught that successful child rearing is also a daily act of faith in Durgho. Shamuts conduct all manner of rituals to grasp their yarna’s power.

•  Origins

The early beliefs consisted of violent warfare and savage hunting practices. Scholars attribute the tribe’s current faith similar to the one practiced by the Lost Ones, the sect of Injerin druids who settled the Themed’lon ages ago.

Please check this sentence, I think the similar is too much, I could be wrong

 They left behind a powerful legacy in the forest in the form of the pendrowe and the drasil as well as the Mask of the Tree Cousin. Their sacred Singing Grove and natural temples within the forest demonstrated a greater power in nature.

The tribe began their life violently during the Third Sarvonian War. The Osther-Oc, led by the dark elves and other monstrosities, took it upon themselves to violate and pillage the human settlers that had unknowingly made their home directly in the path of the dark friends. The Kuglimz settlers of the Themed’lon, as well as the Antislar of nearby Anif, were caught up in the wave of orcs that swept south. Rather than kill the humans, they were instead enslaved and forced to build weapons of war. Over time, the orcs interbred with the humans creating a race of half-breeds that eventually grew into a tribe all their own.

Initially, the humans were forced to practice the orcen beliefs. This was soon rejected as the humans tried to keep their old beliefs alive. Over time, the people practiced a mixed system, one rooted in savagery and barbaric hunting. It was during this time that Durgho was born as a violent, blood-thirsty god who could only be appeased by killing. The shamuts at that time taught that only the strong survive, by killing and violence. The internal tension escalated and led to a period of civil war as various clans of the tribe vied for power. It was not until one shamut named Kulk’bek saw the wisdom in turning away from such bloodthirsty ways and embarked on a journey to learn a new way. He discovered the Mask of the Tree Cousin and he claimed to have spoken to a new representation of Durgho. This was a radically new direction for the tribe, but weary as they were of war, they laid down their arms and followed Kulk’bek.

With the civil war over, the tribe turned to rebuilding. Out of Durgho was born his children: Suriot (lit. "Father [of] Light"), Leirgor (lit. "Mother Darkness"), Gynturg (lit. "Brother [of] Stone") and Bynapyrl (lit. "Sister [of] Water"). Durgho represents the beasts and birds and the yarna of each person. It is said that the new direction was revealed to Kulk’bek through a special tree within the Themed’lon’s Singing Grove. This tree is thought to be the drasil memory tree that passed down the ancient practices of the Lost Ones.

Hmm, though most were tired of the bloody ways -  there are always some, who do not want, or fear, to abandon the old beliefs - weren‘t there  troubles in this time, and how, if there were troubles, did the more peaceful way survive? They have after all orcen blood in their  veins, and humans are not the nicest people also.



•  Gods Overview

In addition to the yarna dwelling within each object or living entity of nature, the Kaaer’dar’shin also revere a group of greater powers. The living world is broken down into four distinct circles, each one given a name.

Durgho

Represented by the pendrowe, Durgho oversees all manner of nature and is as old as the world itself. He is often referred to by the male gender and appears in tribal pictures and to’avatars as a grand tree. Durgho created the world from a dream, according to the Kaaer shamuts. Coincidentally, the elven origins are similar as their belief teaches that Ava dreamed the world into existence. Scholars attribute this origin stemming from the elven Lost Ones belief. Nevertheless, Durgho is a separate spirit, often classified as a “greater deity”. It is from Durgho that all yarna belong to.

Suriot (lit. "Father [of] Light")

Durgho named its first child the Suriot (lit. "Father [of] Light"). The Suriot took to the sky to make light for the world and provide warmth and sustenance for its future brothers and sisters. By the will of Durgho does the sun shine, but in all things, there is an opposite. This is the darker, silent child known as the "Night Mother".

Did Durgho create his children out of himself alone, without female help?

Leirgor (lit. "Mother Darkness")

The silent, brooding child of Durgho comes forth at night and is named Leirgor (lit. "Mother Darkness"). The sky children get equal measure in the world as decreed by Durgho and Leirgor represents darkness and sleep. Leirgor is revered for her cover of darkness while hunting, war and death. She is sometimes regarded as the "evil" spirit, or one whose plans are not of Durgho. Certain dark rituals involve the to'avatars created in the name of Leirgor to commit evil acts of murder or abuse of the sleeping spirits.

Gynturg (lit. "Brother [of] Stone")

Durgho’s third child was the earth itself, Gynturg (lit. "Brother [of] Stone"), and was the land for which the tribe could roam. Gynturg became a vast expanse of wilderness under his siblings, the Suriot and Leirgor. Durgho then placed his people upon the Stone Brother's shoulders to live, hunt and worship.

Bynapyrl (lit. "Sister [of] Water")

The Bynapyrl (lit. "Sister [of] Water") was born next to provide further nourishment to the people. Flowing cold, swift and clean, the Swift Sister takes no shape and knows no peace. Always moving, the Swift Sister is born from its Stone Brother and makes its paths upon the earth's shoulders. Together, the four children exist to provide for the people.



Azhira, I like this very much! I have, apart from the above said, two more general concerns.

- Your Kaeer seem so peaceful now and somehow I think this does not really fit the tribe (when I look from where they came), a tribe in such an environement. Are there no differences, troubles, diferent interpretations? This religion looks so perfect, so flawless, that it appears , hmm, lifeless? Don't know, how to express it. I miss somehow a wild aspect. Maybe I can formulate it clearer, when I read the other half.

- Then there is a problem which surfaces up so often in entires of tis kind: You are a distant compendium writer, but you are writing not from a distance, but as someone from within, without even questioning anything.

A compediumwriter should write as neutral as possible, and there should be no hint, that he beliefs in Durgho himself. Now, that is a problem, for you have written it so well and I don't want you to add more "it is said" or "the people belief", which is often annoying. Maybe the solution would be, to remark in the beginning, that you are describing this from the viewpoint of the  Kaeer.

 

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« Reply #3 on: 10 November 2009, 23:29:39 »

Thanks Talia!  :D

I'll get to work here as soon as possible. Good comments here. The wild aspect of the Kaaer is still there, but it takes a smaller role than before. I wanted the Kaaer to grow and develop and I felt they were too "savage" before. They live in a very special, magical wood and I wanted them to reflect that. They lived more "wild" before their civil war but then turned to a new belief (and some would not agree with it, as you mentioned). The Kaaer have simply become more "enlightened" and no longer reflect their savage orcen cousins (at least not that much... :P)
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« Reply #4 on: 11 November 2009, 19:53:20 »

Azhira, I hope you have not yet started, for I added something to the first part as well. Second part below, still not finished.
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« Reply #5 on: 11 November 2009, 20:19:36 »

Azhira, I think you have here a great concept and I like it very much. However, as it is now, it is difficult to understand, not because it is difficlt per se, but because so many new things are presented in such a dense form, with too many confusing terms. I had to read it twice, before I thought I had a first grasp on it. I‘ll try to point it out here and there. One way to make it for the reader easier to follow, is to use not the Kaaer terms, but the „Tharian“ words, like   “Spirit Way"in stead of “To'ava'Yarna”. You have it all in your head, but I have surely forgotten what it was, when I‘m near the end of the ext, with all these other for me at first  „meaningless accumulation of letters“ in addition.


•  Worshipping Practices

The To’vatar or (tharian name for it), Beeter would be:

The "Amulett" or "To’vatar"  (amulett is not the right word, but how would you translate to'vatar?)

The “yarna” is the extension of Durgho himself within each body. The Kaaer believe that each person is born with a special yarna that is essentially an essence of Durgho himself.

The “yarna” is an ?? extension of Durgho himself within each body.

Here I think you need to say again what ‚yarna‘ is:


The Kaaer believe that each person is born with a ‚special internal spirit‘,  his yarna,  that is essentially an essence of Durgho himself. (‚an essence‘ or ‚part of Durgho‘s essence‘?)


 As a reward for falling away from violent practices and warfare, Durgho granted the first faithful, Kulk’bek, with gifts that could manifest themselves in various ways. Kulk’bek taught that one had to learn to channel one’s yarna through to’avatars.



I would write here ‚manifested‘, not ‚could‘. That could hints for later, these gifts can manifest themselves later in other Kaeer (or not), but here, it has to be ‚manifested‘, because these gift do manifest themselves in one or the other Kaeer, there is no doubt. And now the reader puzzles about gift, because he has already forgotten, what you wrote above. Not good. It is not a way I enjoy while reading, but maybe a hint at a later solution would help:


...with gifts that manifested themselves in various ways. (About the nature of the gifts see below). Kulk’bek taught


--> Use a better (hint)


A to’avatar is a physical symbol created out a piece of nature.

‚Piece of nature‘ is again so wishy-washy, the next sentence does not explain a lot either. „A large structure“, what is that? No picture is forming in my head, I can bet, there is one in yours! That ‚physical‘ irritates me if I read it  often, you don‘t need it, if you say, how an to‘avatar looks like.  Can you express more clearly what you mean? We do have some philosophers here, but most people will have problems and need a more descriptive language.

A to’avatar is a symbol created out a „piece“ of nature, that can be a small stone amulet worn around the neck or a large structure like the .. which..


 They can come in various sizes with some being as small as an amulet worn around the neck to a large structure many peds in size.

But first, one must recognize and commune with their yarna regularly before the gifts can manifest themselves. This is done through ritual, prayer, and deeds of worth. Not every deed must be grand and heroic. Some can be as simple as caring for another in order to manifest the gift of healing. Some focus on warfare, such as the warriors of the tribe, and manifest gifts of prowess and strength. Others practice wisdom and foresight, two valuable traits of a shamut.

It is said that not every Kaaer is capable, or willing, to draw forth their yarna. That is acceptable, but not encouraged. Still, some choose to live a life without regular communion with Durgho, but all recognize him as supreme regardless.

Examples of Durgho’s gifts that can manifest are healing, strength, prowess in battle, speaking with pendrowe or speaking with the dead (or earth sleepers, as the tribe does not recognize truly deceased). First, the faithful must possess a to’avatar and be found worthy to experience the gift.

Must be found worthy by whom?

With a short prayer, or a longer ritual, depending on the gift needed, Durgho will channel his power using the to’avatar as a conduit. It is believed that only strong, faithful yarna are capable of being granted such power.

---> You need that sentence somewhere at the beginning, that „the following reasearch report is written from the viewsight of a Kaeer believer to bring the nature of the religion closer to the reader“ etc...  Hope that works for Art. Otherwise the sentence „Durgo will chanel“ need toeb it is believed that ..  And as said above, it is silly to have to use in every second sentence suhc a formulation.

Examples of various to’avatar and their related gifts are as follows:

The Stone To’avatar (Gyn to'ava) – Stones can be carved and made into different symbols or represent certain things. Often, these to’avatars channel strength of body and will. Warrior faithful favor these to’avatars for use in battle. When used, it is said that the body is granted strength of body, able to lift and wield and fight as ten men. Strength of mind gives the user courage and will to face dangers.

The Beast To’avatar -  This to’avatar can come in many varieties of animal, from bird to insect to wolf. Often, the power channeled through these objects takes the form of the beast itself, be it stealth as an uncil cat or tough skin as a Tsor-shotak lizard.

Stop, stop,  - varieties of animals?

---- is the to‘avatar an animal, or a piece of wood carved into an animal? If you use „object“ I think at something dead...  So far I thought, a to‘avatar is something you carry around or if too big, visit it if you need to use it. So, if I use my yarna - how does it look like? Do I have a carved bird in my hands, or sits a living bird on my hand? So, „Often, the power channeled through these objects takes the form of the beast itself“ - am I sitting wiht my wooden or living bird and suddenly another beast is here as well, formed by my yarna? Or in rare cases, I transform into a beast, and what about my avatar? Is the wodden bird hanging around my neck or the living flying away?
-Is it, if my to‘avatar is a living beast, always the same individual, what if it dies?



 It is said that truly rare gifts bestowed through this to’avatar is the ability to shift into the animal form itself. This myth is perpetuated by stories of the feylja shapeshifter, commonly told throughout the North. These to’avatars are made from animal bone decorated with hide, feathers or hair of the beast being channeled.

Ok, now I know, that it is created out of something. Should have taken "object" for what it is..
This to‘avatar comes in the form of an animal, from bird ..  ??


Wood or Tree To’avatars (Durgho to'ava) – These are made from the wood of a tree, specifically a pendrowe or drasil. They often take (are created in..‘take‘ could be misinterpreted as it falls from the sky like this)  the form of a mask and grant communication with the trees. The most powerful wood to’avatar is the Mask of the Tree Cousin, a relic of old rumored to have been made long ago by the Lost Ones druids. Lost in myth and time, the Mask of the Tree Cousin is said to rest deep within the Themed’lon in the center of the sacred Singing Grove.

A sentence or two how they ( the normal ones) look would be fine

Water To'avatar (Byna to'ava) - Any representation of water often signifies healing, purity and cleanliness. To'avatars of this type are often made from smooth, bluish colored stone carved with pictures of a wave. When manipulated by a faithful yarna, the Byna to'ava releases healing powers upon the wounded of body and mind. Pain relief and cleansing of toxins is within the power of this to'avatar.

Any representation of water - could it be a waterfall as well, that I have to visit?



The T'lark - The traditional war buckler is considered to be a warrior's to'avatar. The shield is made by the warrior and blessed of by?? the shamut. The warrior is expected to be vigilant, protective and strong in battle. As such the t'lark is made from all of the spiritual elements. Wood, stones, and animal hides decorate the buckler. This is a highly revered type of to'avatar and one that the warrior keeps all of his life.


So far the terms are ok, what is too much comes later ;) Well, maybe by now I know, what a to'vatar is and yarna..... ;)

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« Reply #6 on: 11 November 2009, 21:08:06 »


Rituals

Rituals of various kinds are all a part of the life of a Kaaer'dar'shin. Young ones are trained from the age of five years to understand their responsibilities to the yarna and to Durgho. Adults are encouraged to continue practicing their faith to receive the gifts of Durgho. Only the most faithful can attain powerful yarna, and often, they become warrior leaders and shamuts.

Hmm, can‘t you be faithfull without practising? Or is that bundled together - you are not faithful, if you do not practise (as in the Christian belief?) Could it be, that one looses the gifts, if you do not practise enough?


"Hul'to gar" (lit. "Rite of passage")

Turn it around: „Rite of passage" or "Hul'to gar"


This ritual is the first formal ceremony a young Kaaer experiences. Often, groups of children are taken before the shamut and introduces to their yarna. The shamut speaks of ancient myths of creation and how Durgho created the world. The children learn of their own responsibilities to Durgho and how to harness their own yarna. The children are seated in a circle, usually outdoors in the Singing Grove (this is typically the only time a Kaaer ever enters the sacred grove except for funerary ceremonies). This is also the time when the child receives their yarna'melar, or  ??

Is the ritual the first time, the young are introduced to yarna and durgho? Or are the parents telling them of Durgho and yarna before? Is this the begin  of the official teaching? Or more a ritual at the end of their first lessons? Are they visiting the Singing Grove for a longer time?

"Unkk'vabos" (lit. "War Blessing")

New warriors, or those wishing to become warriors, undergo this ritual to give them courage in the coming battles that they will face. The shamut or head warrior introduces them to the to'avatars they need for battle. They are encouraged to create a Gyn to'ava for their use and encouraged and taught the proper blessings and prayers to receive the gift of Gyn'turg.

Don‘t say Gyn to'ava, but stone avatar, maybe in brackets again the Kaeer name and .. Gyn'turg, which stands  for... (or in brackets)

Is warrior a special occupation? Are not all Kaeer fighters in some way? Had the new warriors a schooling before
?

--> I think the paragraph is fine as it is, but needs still explanation. I would add it in the form of an extra paragraph, maybe with smaller letters.

"Ahl'grobar" (lit. "Joining of Two")

This ceremony celebrates the joining of two people in marriage. The ritual involves a grand celebration among the family clan. It also represents not only the joining of two physical bodies, but also the joining of two yarna. Joined couples are encouraged and taught to harness their yarna together to achieve a closer relationship with Durgho. A special to'avatar called a "Ahl to'ava" is made especially for the couple by the shamut, usually from pendrowe wood and river stones. It is a type of Byna to'ava in that it represents life and growth.

A type of what? What was that again ??  ;)
A great idea!!!!! Love that!

What about a divorce? Not possible?



"Gloria" (lit. "Earth Sleep" or death)

This is the funeral ceremony conducted when a tribal member dies. All members, regardless of status, are entitled to a Gyn'olorar ceremony. The name stems from sleeping within the earth as the dead are buried within the Themed'lon in a sacred burial ground. Their Yarna'olorar, or sleeping stone, is believed to house the deceased's yarna and is placed in the care of a pendrowe.

You need to say, that one gets such a 'stone', when he has died, or have I missed again something already described?

Under special circumstances, under times of need or crisis, the family member under the guidance of the shamut, can place their kin's yarna'olorar into a special to'avatar. This is called the Gyn'olorar to'ava. With this to'ava, the living can speak to the dead or call upon their spiritual gifts for a time. Once done, the stone must be placed back in its original resting place.

"Leirgor gro olorar" (lit. "Death sleep")

Traditionally, the dead are to be invoked in times of need by the dead's kin. However, there are recorded events that tell when a shamut or powerful yarna faithful takes the dead to use for their own ends. This is forbidden. One legend goes that a shamut, probably mad from ghun'tlor disease, stole several gyn'olorar to'ava and called upon the spirits of the dead. The mad shamut's twisted and tainted yarna was able to summon spirits that he used to murder several members of his clan. This sort of vile ritual is called the "Leirgor gro olorar" (lit. "Death sleep"). Often in such dark works, the name of Leirgor is invoked as she represents darkness and death (or earth sleep).

That last one is a bit.. How can one tell earth sleepers (which form do they have when summoned?) to commit murders?

Overall, very good.

I still would like to have some more information about the origins, some history. The transformation of that wild and savage tribe to the peaceful people they are now.

And, you say, they are still a formidable tribe you have to reckon with, but I don‘t see this, where are the wild orcs, the for survival fighting tough humans? The religion entry might not be the place to emphasize it, but if they still are a powerful tribe, that has to influence the religion as well. I admit, I have right now no idea either, how you could achieve that feeling.

Maybe there are ceremonies, apart from Unkk'vabos, which they perform, before going on a hunt or especially before a fight or battle, something which makes them more fierce, or stronger in enduring pain or injuries. Others bless their fields, they there warriors? What about offerings to Durgho or the others? Would that contradict? An offering could be the abstinence  from something as well (of food, sexlife, sleep)

How do they harness their yarna, through meditation (prayer), songs, or acting (healing somebody, sitting at the bed of an ill person), are they doing it always alone, or in company (like the couples) , do parents do it with their children, or do the kids learn these things only in their lessons in theSinging Grove and are then alone with their practise?

Be carefull, not to write too much in one long essay, do a lot of smaller inserts with smaller letters, so that the main body does not get too long.
 
Are they tolerating other believes? Or do they think, only they are going the right way, and maybe they are the chosen of Durgho? Do they look down on people with a different belief?



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« Reply #7 on: 25 November 2009, 02:34:23 »

Corrections made!

I have made several sections clearer, per Talia's comments. Also I have re-arranged some of the terms to make it easier to understand. Much of the history of the tribe's development from a more savage and wild tribe to a wiser one will be explained in the tribe revision itself. The tribe is still very much wild and formidable, but it no longer is the main cultural aspect. They are still very much hunters and warriors fighting to survive on a vast frontier. The change in the religion was made to give them divine powers and to make them more complex than a simple barbaric peoples. They possess traits of both barbarism and wisdom.
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« Reply #8 on: 30 November 2009, 21:34:01 »

Azhira, how would you classify your religion? Is Durgho seen as a god, or a primal spirit? , you call the lesser gods "powers". The spiritual way is essential, but I'm a bit confused in which corner I should put it.
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« Reply #9 on: 30 November 2009, 22:34:36 »

Durgho is a primal nature spirit. I am glad you mentioned that as I knew that "god" was not appropriate. His children would be lesser nature spirits.

I also need to add a small section on the significance of the Kaaer symbol created by Judy and have a picture of it in the final entry.
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« Reply #10 on: 30 November 2009, 22:41:23 »

Thanks!  :D

Make that a bit clearer in your overview, please. This is more important than the history of the belief that you describe. You might consider, to take that out entirely, well, maybe not, if this is still a belief in transition.

It is often a problem: if you know something so well, you do not see, that the most naturally might not be known by outsiders and do not mention it.
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« Reply #11 on: 01 December 2009, 00:10:22 »

I've revised the entire Overview that best describes the religion. I've named the spirits instead of gods. Also made a section on the symbol/coat of arms. All in Lime Green.

This faith is getting to complex even for me... :P
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« Reply #12 on: 01 December 2009, 00:19:09 »

Oh, yes, that first paragraph is good now, methinks. It shows, that the primal spirits are very important, but more so the inner spirit, is that correct? or maybe it is better worded, if I say, they concentrate on that inner spirit and the 6 primal spirits are embracing the concept, or something like this ;)

Who said cosmology/religion is easy? I asked not without reason to classify those entries from masterwork up!

Do you think you could leave Queprur for me, once it is time to do the revision? I immersed myself so much in her mythology and essence while writing up the priests. If Koldar and Art agree, that is.
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« Reply #13 on: 01 December 2009, 03:39:27 »

Do you see anything else to add or revise? And, of course you can keep Querpur to yourself. I wouldn't dare mess with your work!  ;)
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« Reply #14 on: 01 December 2009, 05:09:22 »

I haven't read the rest, I think somebody else should look over it as well. It is not good to have so few commentators, I may see just one side. A non-cosmologist would be cool, somebody with distance to the stuff who sees the obvious we two do not see.
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