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« on: 09 January 2010, 17:00:28 »

1) Still uncertain if I should include Rann/Ronn an occupation, or if might be an off-shoot of like a priest. Thoughts/ideas?

2) Not sure if I should open up "providers" so that it would include miners (and maybe traders/merchants).

3) Not sure what details I should really add about males (Gender section)

4) Are there occupations I should add, delete, combine, replace?


ELVEN OCCUPATIONS

Overview:
Elves do not conceive of any one duty, occupation, or profession independently from those connected to it. Each elf does his or her part with a conscious awareness of how the work ripples through the entire tribe. Like all things in the Dream, works are connected: the hunter provides meat to the cook, who feeds the forager, who collects the materials for weaver, who makes the hunter’s clothes. Work is tied to the notion of both giving and receiving, both being shown and giving respect and appreciation, and realizing one’s place in the structure of the community that parallels the inter-connected and inter-dependent nature of the Dream.

Gender:
While elves rarely differentiate or discriminate based on gender, the differing propensities of males and females incline them to different tasks. For example, because of the female’s more lithe and agile form, she may be more adept at moving through forest trees to hunt game. For this reason, elven women sometimes take up positions as their tribes’ hunters. Even among the more patriarchal Ahrhim, women generally serve as hunters.

Women are often seen as more spiritual connected to Avá and Her Dream through a shared femininity and generative power. For this reason, they tend to occupy the more spiritually-centered occupations, like priests and clerics, though not always. While women are generally seen as nurturing, they do not always serve as care-givers. In fact, among the Tethinrhim, women generally work and hunt while the men care for the household and address domestic matters.

Hobbies:
Elves have a community mindset, and often hobbies are related back to the tribe. While hobbies may not be considered an occupation, they often serve the community in some way. For example, dancing is not generally considered a “profession,” as it tends to be something arising spontaneously from personal connection to the Dream. However, those who engage in dance often help others to learn steps and movements that explore the physical and spiritual space of the Dream. In this way, they help deepen other individuals’ sense of self and Dream.

Similarly, basket-weaving is often considered a hobby, as is some types of carving or embroidery. However, those who engage in this activity often do so, not only out of a creative urge, but also out of a desire to help and support the community as a whole.



Occupation List:
Below is a list of occupations present in elven tribes. Some are more prominent than others: while most tribes have hunters or archers, few may have farmers or miners. This list is not exhaustive, but helps rather to give an idea of some of the professions present among the elves. These occupations often overlap, and in some tribes, like the Mélad'rhím, members may be able to at least minimally perform all necessary occupations to aid the tribe. the occupations below are listed by category: Providers (those who provide food for the tribe), protectors/fighters (those who defend or serve in any sort of military a tribe may keep), artists (those whose creative exploits benefit the guild, often serving more religious/ritual purposes), artisans/craftspeople (who use their skills to fashion the things the tribe requires), scholars (whose knowledge helps them serve in ritual or as intellectual resources), and others (miscellaneous).




Providers:

Farmers: Farmers are cultivators of the land. They may grow a variety of crops, depending on the area, and the size of their farms depend upon their habitat. Very rarely will an elf destroy part of the forest in order to create room to grow crops, instead opting to grow in meadows and other natural clearings. Because elves generally reside in forests, this occupation is relatively rare. Only the Quaelhoirhim elves living on the Elverground really have a significant farmer population.

Gardeners: Gardeners keep the gardens, where they may grow flowers, but also vegetables and herbs. Because gardens can often be kept in small areas within the forests, most forest-dwelling elves have both gardens and gardeners to keep them. Because of a gardener’s natural sensitivities to plants, she may also work as an architect (tree-keeper), herbalist, or woodcrafter.

Fishers: Most tribes have fishers, though the number varies considerably depending on location. The Tiraelhon tribe has none, in most cases, while the Sanhorrhim have a sizable fisher population. Because a lake resides near many forests, and at least a few rivers run through most, almost all elven tribes have fishers.

Hunters: The natural propensity toward archery makes elves outstanding hunters. No other race is as skilled with bow and arrow, and you would find few individuals more skilled at moving silently through the trees than an elf. Most elven tribes have hunters, who provide the tribe with not only meat, but also leather for clothing and bones for weapons or tools. Hunters will also often work as archers who help protect the land and tribe.

Cooks: Some elves have an occupation for those who cook and provide the tribe with meals. In some tribes, this task is shared, but in others, individuals are given the task of preparing dishes for all. Because the food prepared goes toward the nourishment of the body, cooks often have a semi-spiritual position. The energies they put into making the food will effect those who consume it. Cooks often also work as herbalists or healers.

Foragers: Depending on the tribe and the area, some elves may work as foragers. This tends to be a catch-all term for those who search the forest for whatever the tribe may need or the wood might provide. They are often skilled trackers, and extremely knowledgeable of the environment, knowing what berries and nuts grow in what season, when the syrrus moss or silkel tree may be harvested, and where such things can be found. Foragers also often work as rangers or herbalists.

Beekeepers: Very few tribes keep animals, but among the Kaýr, some elves work as bee-keepers. Because of the nature of the work, beekeepers must be extremely sensitive to the luaía (energies) of the bees, and working as a beekeeper often requires a great deal of knowledge, time, and patience.



Protectors/Fighters

Warriors: While many elven tribes have individuals who can work as warriors, very few tribes actually have a standing army or military of the sort. Warriors in particular, who tend to employ more hand-to-hand combat, tend to be fairly rare because elves do not generally have room within the confines of their forest for this form of fighting. However, among some tribes who focus more on combat, like the Tethinrhim, this occupation is present (this tribe, in fact, has its own special class of warrior, called the Kaierian).

Archers: Almost all elven tribes have archers, due to the natural gift elves have for the bow and arrow. However, because many elven tribes are not in much danger of attack, many archers work as hunters. Due to the nature of their work, many archers are also skilled fletchers and bowyers.

Guardians: Guardians are those who care for sacred sites in and around a tribe’s forests. Because of the nature of their work, many guardians are also lore-keepers. The most notable example is among the Aellenrhim, whose guardians help to care for the forests of Thaelon, ensuring its protection from, for example, the over-harvesting or destruction of the silkel trees that thrive within its borders.

Mercenaries: More commonly found among dark elven tribes like the Eophryhim, mercenaries sell themselves to anyone with the money to buy them. Dark elves, thriving off of destruction, see the occupation as both a way to make a living and a way to honor the Dream through its destruction. Mercenaries only exist among dark elves.

Guards: While they may have other names depending on the tribe, guards help defend the elven settlements. This often involves the use of magic to hide a settlement from those on the outside, or else cause a traveler wandering toward the tribe to change course. Guards are often unwaveringly perceptive and very clever. They are often also skilled rangers.

Ranger: At times the occupation of “ranger” is combined with that of guard. Rangers, however, generally only deal with watching an area, not necessarily taking action to stop those who may wander in to a village. They keep an eye on the wildlife and the state of the forest, and carry warning back to the tribe if something is amiss. They tend to know their environment extremely well, and sometimes work as trackers, hunters, or foragers.



Artists

Bards: Many elven tribes have bards, who often aid in rituals and ceremonies to help balance energies. Both dark elves and wood elves appreciate music as a kind of celebration; while wood elves see the creative aspect, as notes and music coming into being, dark elves notice the dying aspect as the notes linger for a moment and then fade into silence. Because of the association between music and ceremony, many bards may also work as priests or clerics. While the Injerín are known for their bards, some of the most renown can be found among the Ylfferhim.

Scribes: Those who compose poetry, write stories, develop plays, or record history are known as scribes, and all are considered artists because of their skill with words. They add both to the balancing of energies (in or out of ritual) and to the understanding of the Dream. Some of the most skilled scribes are Aellenrhim, and many of them work as librarians, teachers, and lore-keepers.

Painters: Because of the materials required, only a few tribes host painters. Because many elves do not come into contact with those outside their forests, materials are unavailable. However, there are those who do manage to get the resources, like the Aeolrhan.



Artisans/Craftspeople:

Weavers: Almost all elven tribes have weavers, who turn things like silkel tree threads or syrrus moss tendrils into cloth. Like many other trades, weavers use magic to help imbue the cloth with certain properties, such as a tendency toward protection, or a quickening of healing. Weavers will often also work as dyers and tailors.

Dyers: Those with a discerning eye for colours and a sensitivity to the way patterns and designs affect energies often work as dyers. Dyers use their knowledge to ensure the pattern and cloth aid in the future function of a piece of clothing: that is, the pattern and cloth will correspond to allow the wearer to more effectively carry out her task, or to experience the greatest balance for her energies. Dyers often work as weavers and tailors.

Tailor/Seamstress: Those who use materials to create clothing are tailors or seamstresses. While cloth and leather are the most common materials, those who practice this occupation are often use beads, feathers, gems, and other additions to create the jerkins, britches, footwear, robes, belts, dress, etc. that the tribe requires. They also make packs and bags.

Jewelers: Not all elves have jewelers among them, but those that do often create beautiful creations. One of the most well-known are the glass jewelers who reside among the Aeolrhan. Many Kaýr also work as lapidaries who will polish and even engrave gems or stone. The Coór’hém are also known for having some skilled jewelers among them.

Architects/Tree-Keepers: Those who construct the spaces in which elves reside are termed architects, but do not carry the same implications. Architects tend to have a propensity toward magic and nature, and will often use their abilities to create structures of both stone and trees. Those that work intimately with the Avá’reollár tree go by the name tree-keepers (phera’valturía). Occasionally these individuals, because of their sensitivities toward plants, will work as gardeners.

Armourers/Smiths: Elves rarely have the benefit of metal, but when they do, they often have armorers and blacksmiths among them. Because of their aggressive nature, the Coór’hém have a relatively high population of armourers to provide the armour they need for battle.. The Goltherrhim, who at one point resided in the Goltherlon forest surrounded by mountains, had a fair number of smiths. Fortunately, the techniques of Goltherrhim elves were not lost, and there are signs of their style in the work of the silversmiths of the Sanhorrhim.

Masons: While elven tribes, due to their habit, may find it difficult to acquire stone, those that do either through mining or trade fashion it into structures half built from trees and other living things. Those who help construct the stone part of a tribe’s structures are termed “masons,” though the term fails to reflect the creative element of the work. Often masons are skilled sculptors and stone-carvers, working into the stone beautiful designs and motifs. Masons often also serve as architects; if not, they often work closely with them.

Tool-makers: Because many artisans also make their own tools, and many warriors make their own weapons, rarely will you find an occupation involved purely in the creation of daggers, utensils, needles, etc., but because of the nature of the Cyhallrhim lifestyle, such an occupation finds significant use.

Woodcrafters: The bowls, utensils, and even some of the jewelry and armor of the elves are created by skilled woodcrafters and wood-carvers. Unless of a dark elven tribe, woodcrafters do not generally kill a tree for its wood, and will instead wait for it to fall or die before taking its wood. Wood is most often acquired following lightning strikes or forest fires. Because of the sensitivity required, many woodcrafters also work as gardeners or architects.

Bowyer/Fletcher: Because so many elven tribes have a high number of archers and hunters, so they also have a high number of fletchers to provide arrows and bowyers who make and repair bows. While these professions may be separated among some tribes, they often overlap, and a hunter or archer will make her own arrows and bow.



Scholars:

Researchers: Researchers tend to be rare among elves, who do not often leave the safety of their forests, and most of the researchers are local. They sometimes work as scribes, and record the knowledge of other professions in order to ensure the information is not lost. While many members of the Injerin tribe practice this, it is most noticeable among the Aellenrhim.

Lore-keepers: Lore-keepers are often the elders in a tribe, and within the recesses of their mind hold the many stories, myths, and details that give a tribe its identity. They often work as guardians, protecting sacred spaces and objects whose history and significance they are intimately aware. They will sometimes also serve as priests or clerics for the tribe.

Teachers: In many elven tribes, all members contribute to the education of an elfling, but in some, education is taught by a group of teachers. Often times these teachers will educate children on the fundamentals before they move up to the next step in their education. Those of this occupation are experts on the Carpá’dosía, and while they may serve other functions, most teachers are too occupied with teaching to do much else.

Librarians: Those elven tribes with libraries generally has a librarian to care for the tomes and scrolls, and who can serve as a reference guide for those seeking knowledge. Librarians are often a compendium of knowledge, and even if a librarian cannot answer a question immediately, he generally knows where to go to find the answer. Librarians commonly work as scribes, and may also serve as researchers.

Guides: The catch-all term guide serves as a way of capturing the many individuals within tribes who specialize in one aspect and use that knowledge to assist the tribe. Among the Tethinrhim, those with magical or mystical abilities are termed spirit guides. Those who know the oceans are called sea-guides by the Sanhorrhim elves. Often times, depending on the area of knowledge, guides may serve as priests or clerics.

Herbalists/Healers: Those with knowledge of herbs and their effects commonly also work as healers: the two are so closely intertwined that no elven tribe significantly separates the two. Those of this profession use their knowledge to aid those who are wounded or experience pain. Because of their knowledge, they often work as cooks or gardeners, and also usually serve the tribe as a midwife during births.

Priests: Those with a general knowledge in all rituals and ceremonies are priests. Because many elven tribes have a Ránn or Rónn knowledgeable in such matters, most tribes only have a few priests who act as advisors, and usually also serve as lore-keepers or librarians.

Clerics: Some elves have a special connection with one of the Aviaría, and may use this connection to aid the tribe, particularly in religious ceremony. These individuals are a tribe’s clerics, and serve in special occasions. For example, the Sanhorrhim often practice rituals and ceremonies acclimating the tribe with the ocean, the realm of Baveras, and for this task, have a collection of Baveras clerics.



Other:

Miner: Miners make up a very small percentage of those elven tribes that have them. They were fairly common among the now-extinct Goltherrhim tribe. A few can be found among the Ylfferhim and Aellenrhim. While the Diorye’oleal elves are surrounded by mountains, the tribe does not mine but instead uses Ash’mari slaves to do the work for them.

Politician/Emissary: Very few tribes have a position involving political matters, but especially for those tribes who experience relatively high inter-racial contact, those skilled in politics are often important for the peace of the area. For this task, politicians or emissaries are employed, and are most common among tribes like the Qualhoirhim.

Bankers: Very rarely will a tribe have bankers, and the Qualhoirhim is the only tribe known that employs them. Because of relatively high inter-racial contact and because of the size of the tribe’s main city, banks allow for the tribe to work smoother and more efficient, though many other elven tribes find the profession puzzling.

Merchants/Traders: Elves remain primarily in their forests, where they are more or less self-sustaining. However, there are some tribes who have trading alliances with others in the area, both elven and non-elven. Particularly among the Maeverhim, with their small population, traders help bring in resources they could not themselves produce. Even the Anthryón and shy Ylfferhim tribes employ merchants to share goods with the outside world.
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« Reply #1 on: 09 January 2010, 23:15:29 »

Just one quick note, since I've only roughly glanced over this...


Protectors/Fighters

Warriors: While many elven tribes have individuals who can work as warriors, very few tribes actually have a standing army or military of the sort. Warriors in particular, who tend to employ more hand-to-hand combat, tend to be fairly rare because the fighting techniques require strength that the elven form does not often grant. However, among some tribes who focus more on combat, like the Tethinrhim, this occupation is present (this tribe, in fact, has its own special class of warrior, called the Kaierian).

Elves are actually, on average, stronger than humans. While a lot of games tend to go for the 'fragile and weak' elves, and most people have that impression, Santh elves (and LotR ones, if I recall correctly) are stronger.

"In comparison to humans elves are stronger in spirit and in limb and have an exceptional constitution and endurance. " (from the elf entry)

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« Reply #2 on: 10 January 2010, 00:55:00 »

Thank you, Fox! I had completely missed (or completely forgotten) that detail! I changed the entry slightly to reflect the difference you mentioned. It's colored above. Does this work better, or should I change it more?
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« Reply #3 on: 10 January 2010, 01:46:55 »

Rayne, can you please elaborate on the difference between "priests" and "clerics" as the terran words are more or less inter-changeable? Or better yet: Maybe invent a new term for one of the two categories to divorce the connotations?

I am not sure I have managed to express myself accurately: I think I do understand the conceptual difference you envisaged between these categories. My point is this: It seems rather odd to have two separate categories/classes for two words that normally mean the same thing.

Or perhaps I misunderstand what you had in mind?



PS: I love the last sentence: '[T]he notion of the world as a unified, single cár’áll communicates, "we are in a state of oneness." The concept of one leuá (Ava's leuá) communicates, "we are oneness becoming."'

A question regarding punctuation: Would it be more accurate (and easier to follow for readers) to break the last  axiom as "we are oneness, becoming"?

Your knowledge runs deep in such matters, so I would be interested to see what you think. As I mentioned in a number of occasions, I do pick up a lot from your grammar/style-checks :)
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« Reply #4 on: 10 January 2010, 02:22:14 »

Rayne, can you please elaborate on the difference between "priests" and "clerics" as the terran words are more or less inter-changeable? Or better yet: Maybe invent a new term for one of the two categories to divorce the connotations?

I am not sure I have managed to express myself accurately: I think I do understand the conceptual difference you envisaged between these categories. My point is this: It seems rather odd to have two separate categories/classes for two words that normally mean the same thing.

Or perhaps I misunderstand what you had in mind?

I drew all the categories from the elven entries. There are significant points of overlap. You seem to have found one. I think what I had in mind for priests may be more akin to lore-keepers. I envisioned priests as those who had general knowledge on all rituals, who knew how each was performed. Clerics would be more knowledgeable on the individual rituals related to their god/goddess.

And here's where I make a poor analogy related to law, that despite its many flaws based on my wretchedly inadequate understanding of the legal system, you will hopefully be able to grasp my meaning and help amend my poor knowledge: you have some lawyers who cover big categories, like those defense lawyers perhaps the state provides for you. They are not experts on the crime, but they know enough about it to defend their clients. Then there are those lawyers who focus on specific cases, like worker's compensation for those who have been injured at work, or marriage law for those undergoing a divorce. This may be based on a purely American system, but perhaps you understand my meaning: priests know it all poorly, clerics know specific well.

But perhaps, as I mentioned before, I should combine priests with lore-keepers?


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PS: I love the last sentence: '[T]he notion of the world as a unified, single cár’áll communicates, "we are in a state of oneness." The concept of one leuá (Ava's leuá) communicates, "we are oneness becoming."'

A question regarding punctuation: Would it be more accurate (and easier to follow for readers) to break the last  axiom as "we are oneness, becoming"?

Your knowledge runs deep in such matters, so I would be interested to see what you think. As I mentioned in a number of occasions, I do pick up a lot from your grammar/style-checks :)

I love explaining grammar! Actually, the sentence is grammatically correct as-is. Commas are often subjective. You can say, "The sentence, as it is, seems incorrect" or "The sentence as it is seems incorrect."

In the original sentence, the comma seems to change what is being modified. Without the comma, it seems more clear that "oneness" is being modified (the oneness is what is becoming, and we are that oneness that is becoming). The comma seems to change the modifier "becoming" into a free modifier--and these modifiers either modify the verb or the subject. With the comma, "becoming" seems to modify "we" (in other word, "we are becoming, and we are oneness [which is therefore also becoming]").

In the sentence, both "we" and "oneness" are "becoming," but in mathematical terms:

we=A
oneness=B
becoming=C

Without the comma (meaning I'm going for)
A=B, B=C, and therefore A=C

With comma:
A=B, A=C, and therefore B=C

Does this make sense? I feel like I may be too obscure in my explanations...
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« Reply #5 on: 10 January 2010, 02:46:00 »

Re "overlap" point:

Yes, I see: the difference between "generalists" and "specialists". I guess I should refine my original comment: Rather than listing them as separate vocations, it might be more logical to have a single occupation, and then draw a distinction within that between generalists and specialists. To continue the same analogy, it is not as if there are two distinct professions; they are both lawyers erhm.. priests - merely with differing areas of focus.

So I would combine priests and clerics together rather than priests + lorekeepers. There is no reason why some priests (that is: generalists) cannot also be lorekeepers. Sort of like a double-major


Re grammatical issue: I will open a new thread about this in order to pursue a few questions. But right now I really need to get these "i-tutorials" watched (odd wording, I know, but it seems to capture the feeling of having to do a chore against one's will)


What a timely analogy btw! I will specialise and work as a commercial lawyer (and more specifically within that: as a commercial lawyer specialising in banking, structured finance, restructurings, project-finance, ICM etc. In short, with a slightly heavier finance rather than corporate focus - though of course, one has to be equally well-versed in both.) So how exasperating that the Law Society expects me to do all these courses on criminal litigation... I can understand why we have to study (and pass) criminal law as part of our degree - but then having to do a professional course on criminal and family procedure seems a spectacular waste of my time!

Oh, well... Enough complaining - the i-tutorials await!



EDIT: OK, fixed. Additional post removed.
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« Reply #6 on: 10 January 2010, 03:54:38 »

Re "overlap" point:

Yes, I see: the difference between "generalists" and "specialists". I guess I should refine my original comment: Rather than listing them as separate vocations, it might be more logical to have a single occupation, and then draw a distinction within that between generalists and specialists. To continue the same analogy, it is not as if there are two distinct professions; they are both lawyers erhm.. priests - merely with differing areas of focus.

So I would combine priests and clerics together rather than priests + lorekeepers. There is no reason why some priests (that is: generalists) cannot also be lorekeepers. Sort of like a double-major

I was slightly hesitant to put those who certainly have a religious nature in the same category as other scholars. Perhaps they both belong in some sort of Ritualists category. I'm a bit split, of course, because I still see priests and lore-keepers as very similar, and I see clerics and priests as more separate from each other because of the kind of knowledge they have. Priests would probably be advisers to the Rann/Ronn while clerics would be a bit more distant.

The sub-groups idea was also one I was considering. I was thinking about going into sub-groups with some categories (i.e. Cooks being broken down in bakers, butchers, etc. and foragers being broken down into "food-foragers" and "trade goods foragers" or something). I was trying to keep from doing this, but perhaps it's worth reconsidering. What do you think?
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« Reply #7 on: 11 January 2010, 04:08:20 »

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I just realised that I posted this in the wrong entry! Should have gone to Elven Belief instead :O
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« Reply #8 on: 11 January 2010, 06:59:52 »

Dear Lady Rayne, not sure how accurate these comments are but I do have a belief in elven society that doesn't seemed to be represented here.

As elves seem to always strive for serenity and peace with their surroundings. Wouldn't there be a teacher or group of elders that assist younger elflings in this goal. Maybe a task of the tribe as a whole?

For lack of a better term or knowledge, I'm thinking something akin to a Zen-like state ... meditation? For instance the Windsingers, although this faction is religious and clerically oriented. Wouldn't this be a general goal of most elves, at least on some spiritual level, that would be taught and practiced from a very young age?

Possibly this could explain their physiology in regards to sleep and their tendency to require less than humanity. They put their soul/spirit at rest/sleep through these endeavors, hence an explanation for this peculiar aspect of the race as a whole?

Maybe an occupation for the elderly and wise, sharing the closeness of their souls to the Dream. Passing on their understandings to the young?

Edit: Windspeakers = Windsingers (Darn dwarves intermingling with my brain!) :)
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« Reply #9 on: 11 January 2010, 07:08:05 »

I'm having trouble understanding you, Emvay.

There is a "teacher" profession who helps pass down basic knowledge. All the other professions help to teach children what they know. If a child takes an interest in it, they learn further. Here is a quote from the Elven Life and Development entry:

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All members of the tribe are responsible for all the children within it. Elves often see all children as equal, regardless of family history or background, and each elf takes it upon herself to share her knowledge to the next generation.

All members of a tribe assist children in teaching, but they all tend to teach different things. All this in conveyed in the entries up thus far. I'm not sure how this conflicts with your ideas of education.
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« Reply #10 on: 11 January 2010, 07:15:32 »

It may just be me, but I took the teacher section as a more academically inclined area with some inclinations towards religion. I was looking more along the lines of philosophy, general ideals on how elves perceive life and the world (Which is probably heavily influenced by religion.). If that was your intent for the teacher section .... I missed that point from what is written. My apologies.
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« Reply #11 on: 11 January 2010, 07:24:35 »

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It may just be me, but I took the teacher section as a more academically inclined area with some inclinations towards religion. I was looking more along the lines of philosophy, general ideals on how elves perceive life and the world (Which is probably heavily influenced by religion.). If that was your intent for the teacher section .... I missed that point from what is written. My apologies.

Philosophy and general ideas about life and the world are not taught, but experienced. This is also in the Elven Life and Development entry. Elves learn not primarily by hearing, but by seeing and doing. The elven philosophies don't need to be taught because they are experienced--they come through in the way every member of a tribe acts, thinks, and moves through the world. To be TAUGHT these things, in the way I think you are envisioning, would be a more human way of learning.
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« Reply #12 on: 11 January 2010, 07:39:12 »

I earnestly think we are missing each other's points at this time Rayne. Once I get a fair amount of free-time (Should be this evening.), I'll construct my viewpoints into a clear and concise response. As I have some pending matters going on IRL, I pray for your patience and hope you endeavor to ponder my above words, as I will yours. Thank you for your timely response. heart
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« Reply #13 on: 11 January 2010, 07:42:01 »

I look forward to hearing from you, Emvay. I think, perhaps, we have similar views about elves, but express the differently. When you get a chance, please look at the Elven Life and Development entry. This Occupation entry only lists the occupations and what they are. Th Elven Life and Development entry talks about how the elven community functions, which seems to be your focus (if I'm not mistaken).
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« Reply #14 on: 12 January 2010, 08:35:15 »

Thank you, Fox! I had completely missed (or completely forgotten) that detail! I changed the entry slightly to reflect the difference you mentioned. It's colored above. Does this work better, or should I change it more?

Warriors: While many elven tribes have individuals who can work as warriors, very few tribes actually have a standing army or military of the sort. Warriors in particular, who tend to employ more hand-to-hand combat, tend to be fairly rare because the fighting techniques require strength that the elven form does not often grant, at least not to the degree of most humans, dwarves, and orcs. Elves also do not generally have room within the confines of their forest for this form of fighting. However, among some tribes who focus more on combat, like the Tethinrhim, this occupation is present (this tribe, in fact, has its own special class of warrior, called the Kaierian).

This still gives the impression that elves are weaker on average compared to humans. Personally, I would remove any issue concerning their physical strength and instead concentrate on the philosophical and spiritual reasons why they are rare, as their strength (greater than humans) would not be an issue.

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