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[Bard Judith]

 
Name:   Eur'Oak, Euroak, Ur'Oak, Ur Tree


Basic Overview:

The eur'oak is a  majestic hardwood which can reach 30 or more peds.  It provides a strong and water-resistant, golden-hued wood which burns very slowly, generally used in high-quality ship-building and for framing houses.  Though eur'wood is too hard for general decorative carving, it is sometimes found in artifacts of significance due to its longevity.   This stately tree is related to the other great oaks of Caelereth (the White, Black, and Red) but has its own category due to significant differences in reproduction (which see).  

Description:

Averages 15 to 20 peds in height, with a full-grown canopy of around 8 to 15 peds in diameter.  The most ancient eur'oaks have been estimated at 30 or more peds, and up to nine hundred years.     The Compendium is pleased to inform its readers that through their auspices the famous  “Grandam of the Forest”, or 'Querquen' as the elves name it, in the Boldar Forest, has finally gained official recognition as the tallest (and probably the oldest) eur'oak in the Santharian Kingdom, at  thirty-eight peds of height, with nineteen major branches supporting a canopy of about thirty peds across, and a trunk nearly sixteen peds around!   Exact measurements and more vital statistics were provided by the Aellenrhim elves and are available to interested researchers.

 The eur'oak has lobulate leaves like its cousins, flaring softly outwards in irregular curves or 'lobes', usually an uneven number along either edge and tipped with a central elongated lobe, each about the size of the top joint of a man's thumb.  The whole leaf is generally about two to three palmspans, quite large as leaves in a temperate climate go.  Their colour ranges from a golden-green in spring through a greeny-bronze in summer to a dark bronze in fall.  The trees actually do have a metallic sheen to the top of their leaves, giving a grove of these a beautifully-shimmering appearance in even the slightest sunlight.

  Even when leafless, the eur'oak is not difficult to identify, with a rugged flat-bronze bark in the roughly-rectangular, deeply-grooved style of most oaks, and a characteristic 'mushroom' shape to its trunk and branches.   The sturdy trunk is full and wide, with only slight tapering before it breaks up into a number of broad branches that flare out from a central 'knot'; usually at least five to ten major limbs, but often as many as fifteen circling out to form the main struts of the canopy.    Older eur'oaks display swelling, gnarling, and barrelling of the trunk, while their limbs often sink down towards the ground again with age, sometimes touching or growing back into the soil.  Splitting rarely occurs with these trees as it so frequently does with willows, so bowing and twisting of the larger limbs is instead more common.

 Eur'wood is finely-grained, with a distinctive 'oaken' pattern: long, narrow striations with short 'dashes' of darker colour between.    Freshly-cut, the wood has an off-white colour which polishes up into a deep golden hue and will darken with age to a tarnished bronze.  At any age, it keeps the contrasts in its patterns that are characteristic of most oak woods, making it not only a tough and long-lived substance, but a beautiful one.


Territory:

The eur'oak can be found over most of the continent of Sarvonia,  from forest to mountain, from swamps' edges to plains borders.   Northern varieties tend to be smaller, as is typical for most trees in the colder climates, but quite hardy, with plenty of foliage well into the fall.    Farther south they do not flourish, as the heat seems to overcome them easily. Though moistness or dryness they can take in their stride, aceedic soil seems rather preferred.    They are most profuse through the Temperates and Northern Wilds.  

Reproduction:

It is in the area of reproduction where the Ur (as the orcs name it) differs most widely from the other oaks of Caelereth.   The common White, Red, and Black oak all grow their little capped nuts, known as acorns, which as 'mast' become a popular food source for the small animals of the area, and which surviving, sprout into saplings that grow into oak trees like their parents.

The eur'oak bears no acorns – no nuts at all, in fact.  Instead, it flowers like a fruit tree, in the last days of winter, and sheds those flowers, bearing already-sprouted seedlings beneath them,  with the wind of spring.   The flowers are white, with nine petals curving and overlapping from a central small globe, which if cut into would reveal a miniscule seedling, already with tiny roots curled around its base and two tiny leaflets at the top.  The shape of the petals allows the loose bloom to spin as it catches the breeze, twisting up and away to be borne elsewhere on the wind.

 Let us turn from mere scholarly description and give you a passage of mysteriously descriptive prose by one of our young authors instead, a gnomish alchemist and bard who cheerfully mixes her two passions in this allusive poem, which she calls “Mixing Green”.

White whorls of bloom, nine-winged, lift from the branches bare
And fly.  At each one's base, a swelling, rosy, pregnant with
The hope of fall, a seedling incarnate.
Bird or flower, Air or Earth?
As Grothar breathes, spring sings, sighs;
The eur'bloom flies.

Black ground softened, thawing, reaches out,
Encradles in its earthy grasp
Each fertile flower.   At each one's base, a seedling, golden, ready with
The song of spring, a tree incarnate.
Flame or flower, Fire or Earth?

The white goes down into the dark,
And dies to live.  The black is changed,
Unchanging, as mothers everywhere;
Materna, Eura, Ur-song!
The eur'seed strong!

Green comes from blending white and black, nine parts to two,
Enmixed with phosphor, cask-rime, saltpetre, Cael-bones all,
Leaps up in joy.  At each one's tip, a swelling, green, divided with
The leaves to come, a fruit incarnate.
Moist with sap, now Water-full.
As Grothar sings, spring breathes, sows;
The eur'oak grows!


Usages:   

The eur'oak's  sturdy wood is generally used for framing out ships and buildings which are desired to last longer than the average; though it is hard on tools, the grain is straight and even and splits well.   Doors and window frames, which are frequently exposed to weather, are also popular applications for the water-resistant wood.

 Some specialty uses are also possible, though they should be considered exceptions, as eur'wood does not work up easily in any sort of detailed form.  Tool or weapon handles, such as the Kyranian Sengren Axe, can of course be whittled from the appropriately-sized branches, and simple musical instruments like the Rain Shaman.   The Brownies also seem to favour it for such diverse applications as mead bottles and currency!   See the tome on the Birni for more information.

The leaves are large and attractive; when dried, they can be cut and used as foliage in dried flower arrangements.   However, they are brittle and do not lend themselves to basketry, bookmarks, shingling, or other such applications.

The inner surface of the bark can be scraped and dried, like many others, and makes good tinder.  It should not be confused with willow-powder, as it will, far from curing your headache, make it worse if not poison you.  The dried bark is full of tannin, and can be used in preserving and colouring leather, when mixed with other extracts, dyes, and substances, as the Tanner's Guild will be happy to tell you in greater detail.


Myth/Lore/Origins:

 The eur'oak can be attacked by certain tree-loving fungi and molds, which sometimes hollow out its core to create a vast cavity, even while the tree is alive.  Such trees can provide convenient shelter to rangers and hunters,  with the dry interior padded with moss, fir branches, or fallen leaves, and are commonly known as 'Wounded Healers', after a Northern legend.   It is said that a young Daughter of Choan sought shelter in one such tree after a brutal fortnight of thankless healing, during the Third Sarvonian War. She fell into an exhausted slumber and awoke days later with her own (minor) wounds completely healed, her water flask refilled, and a collection of nuts, berries, and dried sulcho mushrooms piled in a circle of eur'oak leaves near her head.  Though no other traveller has ever reported such generosity from the hollow trees, it is certain that they do provide a dry, safe place to spend a night out-of-doors – always provided that one evicts any forest denizens first!  

In some places, such as the Themed'lon, the elven Wood Keeper clans are said to carefully culture certain large eur'oaks with the Shaping Mold - as they call it - so that useful cavities can be created and the health of the tree protected simultaneously.   Simple shelters and even multi-roomed dwellings have been formed in this way; combined with tree-singing and elven arboriculture, quite beautiful and elaborate living homes can be produced.


Here, a short incantation often carved on eur-oaks by superstitious hobbit-lads (or lasses) seeking a true heart's dear....    “May my love cling fast to me / as the bark unto this tree.”  It's claimed that those without the persistence to finish all forty-three letters of the charm will never find or keep a lasting love!  There is some dissent among the younger generation as to whether, should the bark grow over the carving, this signifies that the charm is 'kept safe' and will never dissolve, or whether that instead 'breaks' the power of the charm and one's love will prove faithless....

The great doors of the New Santhalan Library are constructed from eur'oak, bound and hinged in bronze inlaid with herne.   Earth Mages, sages, and at least one bard of our acquaintance favour staves of eur'oak for certain applications.    It is a favorite wood of the dwarvenkind – to whom all wood is precious – being one of the longer-lasting kinds, and as close to the sturdiness of stone as any wood might come.  In fact, the Avennorian 'barek' in which Brok Strongarm sailed for Denilou was said to have been not only planked and hulled in eur'wood, but even keeled with it (a departure from the traditional whalebone keel).    Praise then, to Eur'oak, a tree which will grace Santharia for generations, both living and dead, and make our lives richer thereby.  

[Azhira Styralias]

A great tree here, Bard. I love the many uses (mage staves in particular) and I just love how you weave the different uses and types throughout the entry without ever breaking stride in the reading. Most races have use for this tree. I would treasure such eur'oaks in the Themed'lon - perhaps the Wood Keeper clans make use of the hollowed out varieties for homes and shelters. Also, the Daughter of Choan story would be around the Third Sarvonian War. I would identify this tree with the Aellenrhim perhaps - maybe the Grandam of the Forest is in the Bolder?

[Bard Judith]

Thank you, m'dear - exactly the kind of helpful suggestions I needed!

Also, Nybelmar people, you get a chance to decide if you want this species over on your continent!  Since it's used in ships, it's not beyond reason
that such a useful tree wouldn't have been im/ex-ported at some far distant point in the past....

 There will be a picture for this entry, too... inspired by the Major Oak of Nottingham....

[Cruciform]

Comments will be in the colour of DANGER, BLOOD, and LOVE, also known as MY HAIR COLOUR, EVEN THOUGH IT'S ACTUALLY AUBURN.

I hate to sound like a finicky bugger, but I'd really like to see all those extra spaces in the middle of paragraphs disappear, you know? They're distracting. :C I'm sorry.

Name:   Eur'Oak, Euroak, Ur'Oak, Ur Tree


Basic Overview:

The eur'oak is a  majestic hardwood tree (This which can reach 30 or more peds in height.  It provides a strong and water-resistant, golden-hued wood (Change that to "strong, water-resistant" and remove the comma after "water-resistant". It should read as "strong, water-resistant, golden-hued wood". I'd also look at changing one of those hyphenated terms. Hyphenated terms shouldn't be used in sequence.) which burns very slowly, generally used in high-quality ship-building and for framing houses (The two clauses here are not linked. The first talks about burning the wood, and the second talks about carpentry. Separate the two, because that comma is out of place..  Though eur'wood (I have a problem with the term "eur'wood". By linking it to the modifier "wood", you should be creating a proper noun, but you haven't capitalised it. As thus, it should either be "Eur'wood" or "eur wood". I'd opt for the latter, since proper nouns aren't just there for everything. They're for individuals.) is too hard for general decorative carving, it is sometimes found in artifacts of significance due to its longevity.   This stately tree is related to the other great oaks of Caelereth (the White, Black, and Red), (comma here) but has its own category due to significant differences in reproduction (which see).  (Something about the statement, "but has its own category" bothers me. It just seems awkward. I'm not sure what it is.)

Description:

(What averages that height? You need to begin a sentence with a subject, because not only is this sentence written in the passive voice, but it lacks a subject entirely, beginning with its predicate. This makes it fragmentary.) Averages 15 to 20 peds in height, with a full-grown canopy of around 8 to 15 peds in diameter.  The most ancient eur'oaks have been estimated at 30 or more peds, and are up to nine hundred years old.     The Compendium is pleased to inform its readers that through their auspices the famous  “Grandam of the Forest”, or 'Querquen' as the elves name it,   in YYY (What is this supposed to be?),  has finally gained official recognition as the tallest (and probably the oldest) eur'oak in the Santharian Kingdom, at  thirty-eight peds of (in height. Not "of" height.) height, with nineteen major branches supporting a canopy of about thirty peds across, and a trunk nearly sixteen peds around!   Exact measurements and more vital statistics were provided by the elves of QQQ (And what's this?) and are available to interested researchers.

 The eur'oak has lobulate leaves like its cousins, flaring softly outwards in irregular curves or 'lobes', usually an uneven number along either edge and tipped with a central elongated lobe, each about the size of the top joint of a man's thumb.  The whole leaf is generally about two to three palmspans; (This comma here should be a semi-colon.)quite large as leaves in a temperate climate go.  Their colour ranges from a golden-green in spring through a greeny-bronze in summer to a dark bronze in fall.  The trees actually do have a metallic sheen to the top of their leaves, giving a grove of these a beautifully-shimmering appearance in even the slightest sunlight.

  Even when leafless, the eur-oak is not difficult to identify, with a rugged, (comma here) flat-bronze (Remove the hyphen in the previous term.) bark in the roughly-rectangular, deeply-grooved (I suggest a mix-up of the hyphenated terms here, with some removing of hyphens. The "roughly-rectangular" description probably isn't even required.) style of most oaks, and has the characteristic 'mushroom' shape to its trunk and branches.   The sturdy trunk is full and wide, with only slight tapering before it breaks up into a number of broad branches that flare out from a central 'knot'; usually at least five to ten major limbs, but often as many as fifteen circling out to form the main struts of the canopy. (A semi-colon should not link a full clause to an incomplete clause. The part here after the semi-colon is a fragment. Perhaps say that five to ten major limbs "are present".)   Older eur'oaks display swelling, gnarling, and barrelling of the trunk, while their limbs often sink down towards the ground again with age, sometimes touching or growing back into the soil.  Splitting rarely occurs with these trees as it so frequently does with willows, so bowing and twisting of the larger limbs is instead more common.

 Eur'wood is finely-grained, with a distinctive 'oaken' pattern: long, narrow striations with short 'dashes' of darker colour between.    Freshly-cut, the wood has an off-white colour which polishes up into a deep golden hue and will darken with age to a tarnished bronze.  At any age, it keeps the contrasts in its patterns that are characteristic of most oak woods, making it not only a tough and long-lived substance, but a beautiful one. (Lovely. C: )


Territory:

Most of the continent of Sarvonia.  (Nybelmar, do you want eur'oaks or something similar?  Let me know!) (Perhaps you should disperse it around distinctively elven forests around the place where other oaks are already present?) Northern varieties tend to be smaller, as is typical for most trees in the colder climates, but quite hardy, with plenty of foliage  well into the fall.    Farther south they do not flourish, as the heat seems to overcome them easily. Though moistness or dryness they can take in their stride, acidic (I'm certain that acidic is what you mean) soil seems rather preferred.    They are most profuse through the Temperates and Northern Wilds.

Reproduction:

It is in the area of reproduction where the Ur (as the orcs name it) differs most widely from the other oaks of Caelereth.   The common White, Red, and Black oak all grow their little capped nuts, known as acorns, which as 'mast' become a popular food source for the small animals of the area, and which surviving, sprout into saplings that grow into oak trees like their parents. (Telling us about a different tree is unnecessary and should probably be avoided. It also seems like you're just tacking on the tidbit about orcs calling it the "Ur". That should be in something like an "Other Notes" section. I'd suggest removing this entire paragraph and adding "Unlike conventional oaks" or something similar to the beginning of the next paragraph.)

The eur'oak bears no acorns – no nuts at all, in fact.  Instead, it flowers like a fruit tree, in the last days of winter, and sheds those flowers, bearing already-sprouted seedlings beneath them,  with the wind of spring.   The flowers are white, with nine petals curving and overlapping from a central small globe, which if cut into would reveal a miniscule seedling, already with tiny roots curled around its base and two tiny leaflets at the top.  The shape of the petals allows the loose bloom to spin as it catches the breeze, twisting up and away to be borne elsewhere on the wind.

 Let us turn from mere scholarly description and give you a passage of mysteriously descriptive prose by one of our young authors instead, a gnomish alchemist and bard who cheerfully mixes her two passions in this allusive poem, which she calls “Mixing Green”.

White whorls of bloom, nine-winged, lift from the branches bare
And fly.  At each one's base, a swelling, rosy, pregnant with
The hope of fall, a seedling incarnate.
Bird or flower, Air or Earth?
As Grothar breathes, spring sings, sighs;
The eur'bloom flies. (This also holds the problem like the "eur'wood". "Eur'bloom" or "eur bloom". But keep to the naming schedule you choose for "eur'wood".)

Black ground softened, thawing, reaches out,
Encradles in its earthy grasp
Each fertile flower.   At each one's base, a seedling, golden, ready with
The song of spring, a tree incarnate.
Flame or flower, Fire or Earth?

The white goes down into the dark,
And dies to live.  The black is changed,
Unchanging, as mothers everywhere;
Materna, Eura, Ur-song!
The eur'seed strong! (Same problem as above.)

Green comes from blending white and black, nine parts to two,
Enmixed with phosphor, cask-rime, saltpetre, Cael-bones all,
Leaps (I'm sure this should be "leap".) up in joy.  At each one's tip, a swelling, green, divided with
The leaves to come, a fruit incarnate.
Moist with sap, now Water-full.
As Grothar sings, spring breathes, sows;
The eur'oak grows! (Keep in mind that this is okay, being the actual name of the tree and a common noun.)

(I couldn't find any problems with the poem. It's a lovely little ditty. My compliments to you.)

Usages:   

The eur'oak's  sturdy wood is generally used for framing out ships and buildings which are desired to last longer than the average; though it is hard on tools, the grain is straight and even, (comma here) and splits well.   Doors and window frames, which are frequently exposed to weather, are also popular applications for the water-resistant wood.

 Some specialty uses are also possible, though they should be considered exceptions, as eur'wood does not work up easily in any sort of detailed form.  Tool or weapon handles, such as the Kyranian Sengren Axe, can of course be whittled from the appropriately-sized branches, and simple musical instruments like the Rain Shaman.   The Brownies also seem to favour it for such diverse applications as mead bottles and currency!   See the tome on the Birni for more information.

The leaves are large and attractive; when dried, they can be cut and used as foliage in dried flower arrangements.   However, they are brittle and do not lend themselves to basketry, bookmarks, shingling, or other such applications.

The inner surface of the bark can be scraped and dried, like many others, and makes good tinder.  It should not be confused with willow-powder, as it will, far from curing your headache, make it worse if not poison you.  The dried bark is full of tannin, and can be used in preserving and colouring leather, when mixed with other extracts, dyes, and substances, as the Tanner's Guild will be happy to tell you in greater detail.


Myth/Lore/Origins:

 The eur'oak can be attacked by certain tree-loving fungi and molds, which sometimes hollow out its core to create a vast cavity, even while the tree is alive.  Such trees can provide convenient shelter to rangers and hunters,  with the dry interior padded with moss, fir branches, or fallen leaves, and are commonly known as 'Wounded Healers', after a Northern legend.   It is said that a young Daughter of Choan sought shelter in one such tree after a brutal fortnight of thankless healing, during the GGG wars.  She fell into an exhausted slumber and awoke days later with her own (minor) wounds completely healed, her water flask refilled, and a collection of nuts, berries, and dried sulcho mushrooms piled in a circle of eur'oak leaves near her head.  Though no other traveller has ever reported such generosity from the hollow trees, it is certain that they do provide a dry, safe place to spend a night out-of-doors – always provided that one evicts any forest denizens first! 

Here, a short incantation often carved on eur-oaks by superstitious hobbit-lads (or lasses) seeking a true heart's dear....    “May my love cling fast to me / as the bark unto this tree.”   It's claimed that those without the persistence to finish all forty-three letters of the charm will never find or keep a lasting love!  There is some dissent among the younger generation as to whether, should the bark grow over the carving, this signifies that the charm is 'kept safe' and will never dissolve, or whether that instead 'breaks' the power of the charm and one's love will prove faithless....

The great doors of the New Santhalan Library are constructed from eur'oak, bound and hinged in bronze inlaid with herne.   Earth Mages, sages, and at least one bard of our acquaintance favour staves of eur'oak for certain applications.    It is a favorite wood of the dwarvenkind – to whom all wood is precious – being one of the longer-lasting kinds, and as close to the sturdiness of stone as any wood might come.  In fact, the Avennorian 'barek' in which Brok Strongarm sailed for Denilou was said to have been not only planked and hulled in eur'wood, but even keeled with it (a departure from the traditional whalebone keel).    Praise then, to Eur'oak, a tree which will grace Santharia for generations, both living and dead, and make our lives richer thereby. 

It's a very well-done post. There are some grammatical errors... well, you see my edits. I'll let you go through those. I'll have you know that I do endorse this tree, and I like your Myth/Lore section. I look forward to seeing this article bloom.

[Bard Judith]

My, my, how daring.  I don't suppose I've had anyone take such an energetic sail through the seas of my grammar, with all sheets cracked on, for years.

 Much appreciated, but do try to steer a slightly more cautious course around the bardically stylistic rocks, such as archaic word or phrasing choices (when I say 'of' I bloody well mean 'of') and invented language (eur'wood and eur'bloom it is; quite legitimate in Tharian, though English may demur).   

However, any irregularities in punctuation, or inconsistencies in spelling (being Canadian I often waffle between the simplicities of American spelling and the elegancies of British and am quite capable of writing 'dialog' in one paragraph and 'dialogue' the next....) which you have detected shall be dealt with forthwith.  Or perhaps not quite forthwitherly as I'm both ill and dealing with exam marking today.

And in all honour, though this is not technically an 'entry' but merely a 'submission', you have adequately fulfilled the Bardic Challenge (I shall leave the research on that as an exercise for the curious student) and thus are entitled to commission your own illustration from me for the entry of your choice (yes, yours or another's which you'd like to see depicted).   Bravo!

(sweeps a curtsy, somewhat ruined by a nasty coughing fit as she straightens back up, and returns to her parchment-piled desk)

[Athviaro Shyu-eck-Silfayr]

I'm feeling for you, Cruci...

Though moistness or dryness they can take in their stride, acidic (I'm certain that acidic is what you mean) soil seems rather preferred.

See here for why...

Although... eur'wood is the same as oak. "This is made of oak" "This is made of eur'wood"

Bardic idiosyncracy: When she has an entry with uncertain dates, names and other details, she posts it and has a placeholder (for example "in the year XXX, the gnome YYY dicovered that the fruit of the ZZZ tree is useful for curing the disease AAA") Just to let you know, it's only fair.

And congratulations on the Bardic Challenge...I've been trying for months

As Judy says, easy on the style choices.

Ne'ertheless, nice Uri!

Oh, and the bit about the "Ur (as the orcs call it)" etc. can be resolved with commas in place of parentheses, as that removes the tacked-on-y-ness (? Almost certainly not a real word. But I like it)

Athviaro

[Cruciform]

My, my, how daring.  I don't suppose I've had anyone take such an energetic sail through the seas of my grammar, with all sheets cracked on, for years.

 Much appreciated, but do try to steer a slightly more cautious course around the bardically stylistic rocks, such as archaic word or phrasing choices (when I say 'of' I bloody well mean 'of') and invented language (eur'wood and eur'bloom it is; quite legitimate in Tharian, though English may demur). Fair enough.  

However, any irregularities in punctuation, or inconsistencies in spelling (being Canadian I often waffle between the simplicities of American spelling and the elegancies of British and am quite capable of writing 'dialog' in one paragraph and 'dialogue' the next....) which you have detected shall be dealt with forthwith.  Or perhaps not quite forthwitherly as I'm both ill and dealing with exam marking today.

And in all honour, though this is not technically an 'entry' but merely a 'submission', you have adequately fulfilled the Bardic Challenge (I shall leave the research on that as an exercise for the curious student) and thus are entitled to commission your own illustration from me for the entry of your choice (yes, yours or another's which you'd like to see depicted).   Bravo! Just found out what it was. =D I can't imagine anyone other than me getting it. Oh, my lord, I feel good about that. Except that I keep finding inconsistencies in my own spelling in my posts. I should probably start posting BEFORE midnight.
Regardless... THANKS! *Dances*

(sweeps a curtsy, somewhat ruined by a nasty coughing fit as she straightens back up, and returns to her parchment-piled desk)

I'm feeling for you, Cruci...


See here for why... Ah, I see.

Although... eur'wood is the same as oak. "This is made of oak" "This is made of eur'wood" (Grumbles* FIIIIINE. xD

Bardic idiosyncracy: When she has an entry with uncertain dates, names and other details, she posts it and has a placeholder (for example "in the year XXX, the gnome YYY dicovered that the fruit of the ZZZ tree is useful for curing the disease AAA") Just to let you know, it's only fair. I just meant that it should at least have <year> or <tree> or <person> so that we know what it's actually going to be, rather than XXX, YYY, or ZZZ, which could be any number of things depending on context.

And congratulations on the Bardic Challenge...I've been trying for months Thank you.

As Judy says, easy on the style choices.

Ne'ertheless, nice Uri!

Oh, and the bit about the "Ur (as the orcs call it)" etc. can be resolved with commas in place of parentheses, as that removes the tacked-on-y-ness (? Almost certainly not a real word. But I like it) I *Like* the bolded.

Athviaro

[Artimidor Federkiel]

As Judy is working on the Eur'Oak now, I remembered something:

Back in the days when Judy introduced the Herbarium to Santharia she started with listing various plants, which resulted in overview entries. Which we also put on the site - not in the best format, but still, they were put on the site. This was done without having related entries to which these short descriptions point. With the complete overhaul of various menus these overview entries somehow disappeared as we tried to organize things better regarding the entries that we already had on site, lots of these entries had black & white pictures and so on. With other words: These overview entries are on site, but cannot be accessed from any menu. And the entries still contain valuable information on entries that could still be made. The Eur'Oak is one such example.

Here are a few examples:
Deciduous Trees Overview
Tropical Trees Overview
Fruits and Berries

So... Just wanted to point out that we shouldn't forget about those. Not exactly sure how we should handle them. Maybe these descriptions that haven't been made into an entry yet could be collected here in this Forum for people interested in plants in order to take them and develop the idea?  I don't want to lose these mini-entries, as they are practically inaccessible right now...

[Ta'lia of the Seven Jewels]

Could we not put on the site overviews in these big categories without a proper entry accompanying them? So just that it is easier to find those things mentioned in entries all over the site. They do exist already, though without a proper entry. A short description for each would not take too much time away from other things.

E.g I mentioned in the waterleaf submission that redshell water snail or there will be blue fish which take shelter in this plant. They exist, but I don't want to do an entry for them.

Those trees, beasts, whatever are not yet in the main menu, but in the overview. Of course not every weird thing has to be there, but then, it should not be in an entry either.

[Bard Judith]

Cruci, I haven't forgotten about your Challenge!  It sounds like a fun subject, though I must warn you I'm better at feathers and wood than Brownies....    However, it is a fairly complex illustration, so I may wait till  the winter vacation to make any progress on it.  Don't be disappointed if Santhworld pics, for example, come first... just drop me a reminder in December.

Art, thanks for remembering those 'lost entries' - they probably should just be listed somewhere here in the appropriate forum thread.  I'm pretty sure they could go up for 'Newbie Development' possibilities fairly safely, unless someone else (like me) claims them first....

[Cruciform]

Cruci, I haven't forgotten about your Challenge!  It sounds like a fun subject, though I must warn you I'm better at feathers and wood than Brownies....    However, it is a fairly complex illustration, so I may wait till  the winter vacation to make any progress on it.  Don't be disappointed if Santhworld pics, for example, come first... just drop me a reminder in December.

... Just let me check my messages so I can actually figure out what my request was.

...

Okay, I'm back. And it appears that I can't find anything.

But don't worry. I don't care how long it takes. I loath asking people to do anything for me, let alone reminding people. Hehe. *Sweat*

If you could message me the description again or something?

[Shabakuk Zeborius Anfang]

Oh, I missed this, when you posted it, Judy!

It's Saturday night and I'm not in the mood for critical commenting (not that I've seen anything to give me cause to critically comment, anyway), but I am  in the mood for praises. Well, and so:

Like both the hobbit custom and the idea with the hollowed-out trunk. The latter, in particular, has many possibilities for storytelling.

Love the word "cael-bones" - aura is due for that alone.

Kudos for including the rain shaman - I think the entry on Percussion Instruments of Santharia (one of my favourite entries of all) deserves every reference it gets!

Learned the word "lobulate". Thanks, Mrs Alkema!

[Artimidor Federkiel]

Well, we could e.g. include the plants in the new overview entries we're doing slowly but surely, so that they are definitely part of the overviews (just without entries). We have that already in the Weapons category (where we're pretty well organized), it's just that due to the reorganization that was somehow lost in the Herbarium. We could e.g. mark such plants (but also weapons etc.) that only exist with a short description in the overview, say, with a darker grey (not too dark, but distinct from the rest of the text), then it becomes very clear with a brief look already that we're still missing a proper entry on that one. - How about that?

[Bard Judith]

I'm going to wait for this one until the picture is done, if that's ok, Art!  You'll get finished entry AND pic for the next update.

[Artimidor Federkiel]

No need to get stressed, Judy! Looking forward to the finished entry AND the pic coming later then! 

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