R'unorian Currency Revision

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[Valan Nonesuch]

I'm sort of taking an interest in R'unor at the moment, and rather than write new entries, I figured I'd see if there were any that needed work other than weapons. And boy does the currency need work. If only for the abuse of precious materials and the outright madness that it entails. The most basic coin has a shard of diamond set into it? One of the "coins" is a ninety pound ball of engraved silver. So I'm revising it.
Sadly, Valan has difficulty making tables work, so he stole one and tried to repurpose it. This should explain why anything seems to have exploded.
Currency in R'unor is a strictly monitored enterprise, controlled by the Imperial Court, with high penalties on those who tamper with the currency. Any form of alteration (milling or filing the edges of coins) or counterfitting (adultering the metal of coins with lesser material) is punishable with the loss of a foot and a brand on the left hand if discovered. Merchants and money changers who deliberately give false coins to their customers are punished by seizure of property by the crown and imprisonment.

Coin	Value	Description	Value
Spoke	Smallest Coin	Small grooved copper rod, with a divot on one end and the other scored	A small piece of fruit, a san
Low Wheel	6 Spokes	Small round copper coin, with a horseshoe on one side and a plain obverse	a fruit
Wheel	4 Low Wheels	Small square copper coin with a spoked wheel on one side and a plain obverse	A poor meal
High Wheel	2 Wheels	Small triangular copper coin with the head of a horse on one side and a plain obverse	A bushel of fruit (6-12 fruits)
Low Imperial	3 High Wheels	Brass coin, triangular with rounded corners, with the imperial seal on one side and the profile of the Empress on the obverse	A good meal
Low Staff	6 High Wheels	Small round brass coin, with the Librarian's Guild seal on one side and a book on the obverse	A  sword
Staff	4 Low Staves	Square brass coin, with the Librarian's Guild seal on one side and a chalice on the obverse	A livestock animal
High Staff	2 Staves	Octagonal brass coin, with the Librarian's Guild seal on one side and the Library Tower on the obverse	A night's meal and entertainment
Imperial	3 High Staves	Silver coin, octagonal with rounded corners, with the imperial seal on one side and the profile of the Empress on the obverse	The wages for a month for a common soldier
Low Key	6 High Staves	Small octagonal silver coin, with the Guard's Council seal on one side and a sword on the obverse	A garment made of rocksilk
Key	4 Low Keys	Octagonal silver coin, with the Guard's Council seal on one side and a shield on the obverse	Gems or metal of a Gleam's worth
High Key	2 Keys	Square silver coin, with the Guard's Council seal on one side and a ship on the obverse	A roll of Taarshinite silk
High Imperial	3 High Keys	Gold coin, square with rounded corners, with the Imperial seal on one side and the profile of the Empress on the obverse	Passage on a ship to Sarvonia, with good personal quarters and meals
Low Crown	6 High Keys	Round gold coin, with the Imperial Court seal on one side and the profile of a raven on the obverse	Fifteen Goldbards
Crown	4 Low Crowns	Round gold coin with the Imperial Court seal on one side and the profile of a turtle on the obverse	A small feast
High Crown	2 Crowns	Round gold coin with the Imperial Court seal on one side and the profile of a crown on the obverse.	A Moonbright of metal or gems
Great Imperial	3 High Crowns	Large rectangular gold coin, the edges plated with aurium, bearing the Imperial seal on one side and the portrait of the Empress on the obverse	Used in Imperial gifts and transactions

[Deklitch Hardin]

Valan, don't forget that in many earthen cultures what the European natives considered to be precious metals, the native peoples from some of the other continents considered to be pretty baubles that were used for trading/currency ... maybe the same thing happens here?

[Valan Nonesuch]

Fair enough Dek. I still call madness at the use of pounds of silver as a "coin".

[Deklitch Hardin]

I happen to agree with you there, Valan.

[Seeker]

I think the concept was that the coin itself is actually valuable in proportion to its marked value.  So two gold coins of the same size would have to be equal in value, no matter what picture or marking is on it.  I certainly agree what was in the current entry is rather ridiculuous.

Low Crown   6 High Keys   Round gold coin, with the Council seal on one side and the profile of a Unicorn on the obverse
Crownl   4 Low Crowns   Round gold coin with the Council seal on one side and the profile of a turtle on the obverse
High Crown   2 Crowns   Round gold coin with the Council seal on one side and the profile of a crown on the obverse.

So for example are all these coins the same size?  If they are then we somehow have to recognize that the creation of currency is strictly controlled by the Runorian government. This is not a problem , just a question so I understand the direction we are going.

[Valan Nonesuch]

In my head, each subsequently smaller coin would be able to fit into the the preceding larger coin. With canadian coinage, for the most part (the dime fits into the penny for some reason) each coin will stack almost perfectly on top of one another with little/no room to shift back and forth.

[Cruciform]

In my head, each subsequently smaller coin would be able to fit into the the preceding larger coin. With canadian coinage, for the most part (the dime fits into the penny for some reason) each coin will stack almost perfectly on top of one another with little/no room to shift back and forth.

That makes sense. I mean, in Australia, the 5c coin fits "into" the 10c. The 10c fits into the 20c. The 20c fits into the 50c (which is an octagon).

The $1 coin is about a pixel larger than the 10c in diameter, and the 5c is about the same size as the $2, but the $1 and $2 are thicker.

So yeah, I second your system, Valan. It makes sense that something more expensive would be larger and better. =D

Fun fact: the Australian 20c coin (extra fun fact: it's the exact same dimensions as the New Zealand 50c coin) is perfect for rolling. 5 or 10c coins will bounce upon hitting the ground, as will the 50c, and $1 and $2 coins are too useful, but a 20c coin, upon being rolled from the hand, would perpetually roll with the right amount of force and a flat, frictionless surface.

[Bard Judith]

Valan, have you any idea what those coins will buy in R'unor?  Just a guess or estimate would be quite helpful.... as would any sort of extremely rough 'conversion' to Santharian coins.  For example, would a goldbard be the same size/weight (and thus value, more or less) as an Imperial, or as a Crown?   How many brass Staves to the brass Od?   Just a few parallels would be much appreciated....

[Artimidor Federkiel]

You managed to put a very nice table together here, Valan, even if it's "stolen" and "refurnished" here. But it looks good. Tables put on boards are quite a feat... (Hmmm... tables on boards? interesting concept...) There seems to be practically no usage of R'unorian currency anyway on site, so it's ok that you use other names as well I'd say.

The value column is also good to have for a rough orientation - hope you can complete that, even if it's only very rough - but we still don't have any proper definition as far as the Santharian currency is concerned. - BTW: In Santhworld I'll use sans as currency, but the values used there are more fantastic than is good for a fantasy world. However, they'll at least serve a purpose and can always be readjusted when we get to that.

[Bard Judith]

Santh currency values are definitely on my long-term to-do list!  (but I'm not too proud to accept help....

[Valan Nonesuch]

Right! I pillaged the table from Mina, but it's not so difficult if you have a working framework and a little understanding.

Values of the currency added with one caveat. I've pulled whole cloth out of thin air to stich these values together. Any suggestions are welcome!

[Valan Nonesuch]

No objections, I'm going to blarrow this.

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