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« Reply #60 on: 27 January 2011, 23:12:03 »

Had a closer look at this as well, Alexandre, so here are a few notes:

As far as I can see this is planned as an entry of its own. Actually it's already executed that way with the proper sections pretty much in place, so no problem from my side in this regard. Could use an Overview, though, summarizing the whole thing.

While I get the main outline some things are a bit unexplained, though, at the moment. Always remember that someone who hasn't even heard what the Ash'mari are might stumble upon this entry - so don't forget to mention early on that they are barbarians, where they live and from what they developed and their relationship to the Diorye'oleal elves. And explain the "Burning Night", which also is taken for granted when it is first mentioned. Just to prepare the environment in which you're operating

Pantheon: It looks as if the Ash'mari pantheon isn't set in stone, because the Diorye'oleal elves are also worshipped as minor deities, so these might change from time to time. Is the main pantheon also subjected to changes? Values might be different depending on the circumstances of the Ash'mari, and it doesn't look as if they are that organized. So how definite is the pantheon? Are you picking out key Gods in this entry and explain them, are their regional differences, or is it a clearly defined pantheon?

The question of hierarchy is a bit shaky as far as I can see, or not explained enough yet. You mention six Gods, who stand above the Diorye'oleal, who you say are minor deities. All of them? Or only specific ones? What exactly is the position of Ian'fa? As you write "He is attributed with the creation and delegation of the three lesser gods over the Ash'mari." With the lesser Gods do you mean the Diorye'oleal? Three Diorye'oleal "Gods"? Is he the most important God then, as he actually creates three more Gods? These basic things need to be made a bit clearer in the first sections for me!


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Re: Ash'Mari men religion section

« Reply #61 on: 28 January 2011, 01:44:48 »

What I'm gleaning from this is that you want me to be more specific about what I'm referring to, and you want me to put some of the precedent research into the entry (as in, noting that they are barbarians, explaining in detail their history and how it affects their religion).

I think I've soaked up a lot of what you guys want from me, so I'll get back to work on the entry.


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« Reply #62 on: 28 January 2011, 02:28:49 »

I thought so far, that it should be an addition to the tribe entry - was that not planned in the beginning? Does not the heading still point to that? I can't find the original thread right now though. Why did nobody say something, when I talked about an extra religion entry, that this might be an option, that this should be already that extra religion entry? What I said, that prevalence etc is not necessary here aimed of course at the tribe's addition, not an extra submission.

Ok, if that is an entry in itself and not the addition to the tribe entry ----> what Alysse said.

I leave this now to Azhira and Alysse, otherwise I get not around with my works.

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« Reply #63 on: 29 January 2011, 02:38:32 »

Well, I'm sad to see you go. You've required the clarity from me that I would want someone to prod me to produce.


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Re: Ash'Mari men religion section

« Reply #64 on: 06 February 2011, 09:18:36 »

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Hmmm... Well Arti the Ash'mari are a fairly centralized people, seeing as they are a group of slaves. So I can't imagine why there would be a regional or cultural effect on the religion, that changes it amongst different Ash'mari. I'm pretty open about the issue, though.

As for the rest of it, I'll get to clearing things up.


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« Reply #65 on: 08 February 2011, 23:32:54 »

Well, that's what I'm asking myself: Are the Ash'mari "centralized" and form a completely consistent group of slaves? Or do the Diorye'oleal mainly use them for their own purposes, trying to suppress everything that gives them identity - like allowing them a religion shared by all the Ash'mari. Or would they more try to separate them, try to counteract everything that could eventually be dangerous for them, intent on shattering their traditions, so that they'd develop in different directions?


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« Reply #66 on: 09 February 2011, 09:42:01 »

But we have no evidence to go off of here either way, Arti. What is it that you want me to do? I honestly don't feel that the Hidden Wind Elves would have taken enough of an interest in the Ash'mari to manipulate them at that level.


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« Reply #67 on: 09 February 2011, 09:55:28 »

I'm just posing the question, Alexandre

Personally I don't really have a preference.


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« Reply #68 on: 10 February 2011, 12:41:52 »

Ah, I understand Arti. Well, this was my response to the question:

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Re: Ash'Mari men religion section

« Reply #69 on: 11 October 2011, 04:44:24 »

Well, I really lost my creative motivation on this subject, and that's why I never got back to working on it. If someone else would like to take over with the material I've presented, or start on the subject from scratch, go ahead. I've got other things in mind now.


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