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« on: 05 April 2011, 18:06:18 »

Hey fellow Bestiary Developers,

I've been graced with a spell of two hours away from revision, courtesy of my good conscience, so I thought I'd head over to the Bestiary forum, browse around a bit, help out with comments and feedback, make sure the place is in good order under my care..

Instead I got struck by this idea: How about a mini-project, involving all of the developers who are active and have a passion for the Bestiary, in which we take individual areas / systems and define their food webs. That is to say, research all of the creatures that inhabit these areas and sort them. We identify predators, prey, who feeds on who, etc. In doing so I hope we can highlight missing links in the food chain and identify creatures that may be missing in order to make the eco-system a balanced one.

I think the idea would be fun, and would generate a list of creatures which the dream could really do with being developed. It would also set a foothold for updating area entries which I've noticed don't seem to include an awful lot about the creatures that inhabit it, if those creatures were designed after the area entry.. that might just be me though. Regardless, getting a clear look at all the animals living in these systems would give us valuable, summarised insight, while at the same time bringing us beastly developers closer together grin

Any interest in such a project?

Jonael


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« Reply #1 on: 05 April 2011, 18:39:18 »

Below is a sample 'collection pool'. I know that the headings don't fit for all of the creatures under them, but this is just so we have them organised in one manner or another without having to come up with thousands of sub-headings. Once we feel we've identified most of the creatures in there and how they fit together, we can then start drawing diagrams that'll do the whole chain more justice.

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The Scattersand Shoals
The Silvermarshes
The Ráhaz-Dáth Desert

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-The Scattersand Shoals-

Hunter
Stratanians
Moon Shark
Night-stalker

Hunted
Scattersand Ray
Aquanix
Bavereye Beetle
Dragon Bird
Flittermice
Varcosparrow
Dolpholok

Plant

Recognised Chains
Night-stalker > Hobbit Deer >

-The Silvermarshes-

-The Ráhaz-Dáth Desert-


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« Reply #2 on: 05 April 2011, 21:31:05 »

I think I might be interested. I seem to have settled myself into the Bestiary, just popping over to the Herbarium every now and then, which I guess would also work with this project.

I've actually been working on a list of creatures/plants to create myself, to give the Scattersand Shoals a more diverse eco-system, and something like this would help with that too. So, if I can help in any way, I'd be happy to.


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« Reply #3 on: 05 April 2011, 21:58:08 »

Sounds wonderful Tikanni, by the sound of things you've already been thinking along similar lines to me; the whole idea of establishing a balanced ecosystem. It'll be great to have you on the team.

How about I hand over the Scattersand Shoals to you then? Would you be alright with that? Seeing as you've already had a thought about that part of the world. Grab what I've put up so far, modify it as you see fit and add to it (for now, only with creatures already approved or being designed, just to avoid confusion. or maybe mark the ones you've thought of but haven't designed yet, so we can see what to expect?) And I'll update the section up top whenever you tell me

*victory tapdance* one person on the team! that's almost a full party, haha


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« Reply #4 on: 05 April 2011, 23:08:29 »

Yep, that's fine, Jonal, I just hope I don't disappoint. I might have questions at some point, so I'll PM you, if that's okay, if/when I do. Glad to be of service!


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« Reply #5 on: 06 April 2011, 00:01:01 »

This was also something I tried to do in my recent Eight Winds Bay entry ... identifying what eats what and what is eaten by what and so forth ... time permitting, I'd be interested in doing it for the Eight Winds Bay area.

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« Reply #6 on: 06 April 2011, 01:19:29 »

Welcome on board Dek, sounds great


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« Reply #7 on: 06 April 2011, 16:14:22 »

I'd been thinking on similiar lines a few times, but never got to the point of actually doing anything about it - I'd be happy to help out with any area really, though I seem to remember getting a handle on the fauna/flora of theSilvermarshes area a while back for some mullog myths, so I could start there perhaps?


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« Reply #8 on: 06 April 2011, 18:01:48 »

The Silvermarshes are all yours then Seth, glad to have you join in


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« Reply #9 on: 07 April 2011, 21:43:31 »

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« Reply #10 on: 08 April 2011, 23:10:38 »

so I think this is more or less complete - I started to fill in recognised chains as you had in the tester, Jonael, but it was getting ludicrously complicated and repetetive, so I've noted what they eat or are eaten by next to individual species. hope that's alright. Also i could put links in, but that'll take a while.

Silvermarshes food web

Plants: (noted predators in brackets)
Red birch (wopse, silverwood bug)
Fragrans tree (silverwood bug)
Elessan tree (silverwood bug)
Melderapple tree (scoffle, silverwood bug, orm, hobbit, mullog, aelirel, styruine round worm, flaxrat, water rat, flunki, mice)
Peace pine (silverwood bug, whistling beetle)
Weeping willow (silverwood bug)
Marsh willow (silverwood bug)
Yealm reed (stilted elk, seean beetle)
Life reed (stilted elk, seean beetle)
Alinfa lily (stilted elk, sunset fish)
Lemertia (stilted elk, sunset fish, kaimuni, mithralfish)
Waterstar (stilted elk, sunset fish)
Pond-pad (stilted elk, sunset fish, kaimuni)
Aomár (stilted elk, sunset fish)
Undefined algae (mithanjor, sunset fish)
Krakenweed
Redberry bush (styruine roundworm, scuffle, orm, hobbit, mullog, aelirel, flaxrat, water rat, flunki, mice)
Lady fingers flower
Lotann flowers
Paelmerin
Flax
Blackmoss
Rockmoss
Sou’cald moss

detritivores: (noted predators in brackets)
squilla fungus (hobbit, mullogs, slugs, snails, gnarco toad)
glowcap fungus (slugs, snails)
frent fungus (mullog, slugs, snails)
koeken fungus (hobbits, mullog, mice, slugs, snails)
sulcho fungus (hobbits, mullog, mice, slugs, snails)
flies (dragonfly lizard, spiders, kyck-kyck, hollup, common frog, gnarco toad)
lin’mar’joh (mithralfish)
groshmites
cheerk worm (crane, rodents, frogs)
etherus worm (crane, rodents, frogs)
fleshworm (corbies)
mudworm (crane, rodents, frogs)
undefined clams (crane, rodents, frogs)

hunted: (predators in brackets)
stilted elk (mullog)
flunki (mullog, kaimun, swampstalker)
flaxrat (mullog, kaimun, swampstalker)
water rat (mullog, kaimun, swampstalker, lysh)
mice (mullog, kaimun, swampstalker, grass snake)
kingell bird (kaimun, swampstaker, lysh pike, mullog)
corbie (mullog, swamp stalker)
scoffle bird (myrddin falcon, swampstalker, mullog, grass snake)
aelirel bird (myrddin falcon, grass snake)
common frog (kingell, mullog, lysh, kaimun, bogsnapper)
hollup frog (kingell, mullog, lysh, kaimun, bogsnapper)
kyck-kyck (kingell, mullog, lysh, kaimun, bogsnapper)
bogsnappers (kaimun, swamp stalker)
ranlesh (kaimun, mullog, lysh)
grass snake (kaimun, swampstalker, mullog, lysh)
dragonfly-lizard (myrddin, kaimun, mullog)
lysh pike (kaimun, swampstalker, mullog)
mithanjor (kingell, lysh, kaimun, swampstalker, mullog, hobbit)
mithralfish(kingell, lysh, kaimun, swampstalker, mullog, hobbit)
sunset fish (kingell, lysh, kaimun, swampstalker, mullog, hobbit)
myrmex (fish, frogs, gnarco toad, dragonfly-lizard, aelirel, spiders, ranlesh)
skeeter (fish, frogs, gnarco toad, dragonfly-lizard, aelirel, spiders, ranlesh)
feylien (mithanjor, dragonfly lizard, ranlesh, frogs, gnarco toad, spiders)
wopse (hobbit, mullog, corbie, rodents)
groshmites (fish, frogs, gnarco toad, dragonfly-lizard, aelirel, spiders, ranlesh)
orm (fish, frogs, gnarco toad, dragonfly-lizard, aelirel, spiders, ranlesh)
dalor flies (fish, frogs, gnarco toad, dragonfly-lizard, aelirel, spiders, ranlesh)
malise (fish, frogs, gnarco toad, dragonfly-lizard, aelirel, spiders, ranlesh)
red diamond butterfly (fish, frogs, gnarco toad, dragonfly-lizard, aelirel, spiders, ranlesh)
flitter-twitch butterfly (fish, frogs, gnarco toad, dragonfly-lizard, aelirel, spiders, ranlesh)
white spiral butterfly (fish, frogs, gnarco toad, dragonfly-lizard, aelirel, spiders, ranlesh)
silverwood bugs (fish, frogs, gnarco toad, dragonfly-lizard, aelirel, spiders, ranlesh)
whistling beetle (mullog, fish, frogs, gnarco toad, dragonfly-lizard, aelirel, spiders, ranlesh)
seean beetle (fish, frogs, gnarco toad, dragonfly-lizard, aelirel, spiders, ranlesh)
blackbeetle (grass snake, fish, frogs, gnarco toad, dragonfly-lizard, aelirel, ranlesh)
styruine round worm (mullog, hobbit, aelirel, rats, mice etc)
undefined snails, slugs (dalor larvae, fish, frogs, gnarco toad, dragonfly-lizard, aelirel, ranlesh)
undefined spiders (fish, frogs, gnarco toad, dragonfly lizard, rodents, ranlesh)

hunters: ( noted prey in brackets)
swamp stalker (fish, mammals incl. Mullog and hobbit, birds, reptiles)
mullog (almost anything)
hobbit (fruits, fish, styruine round worm, wopse)
flunki (berries, leaves, insects, small animals, carrion)
flaxrat (fruit, seeds, invertebrates, plant material, worms)
water rat (fruit, seeds, invertebrates, plant material, worms)
mice (fruit, seeds, invertebrates, plant material, worms)
flittermice (insects, fruit)
kingell bird (fish, amphibians)
myrddin falcon? (songbirds)
undefined crane (fish, frogs, worms)
aelirel birds (berries, seeds, insects)
corbie (invertebrates, frogs, young birds, reptiles, fruit)
bogsnappers (insects, grasses, small fish, frogs)
gnarco toad (bark, leaves, bugs, squilla, snails)
common sarvonian frog (insects, invertebrates)
hollup frog (insects, invertebrates)
kyck-kyck (insects, invertebrates)
water dragonfly-lizard (insects)
swamp kaimun (any fish, also kingell, water rats, grass snake etc v. Occasionally lemertia or pondpad)
grass snake (mice, birds, blackbeetle, fish, eggs)
ranlesh (insects, spiders etc)
southern lysh (rare) (mithralfish, sunset fish, flunki, water rats, mithanjor, and other small fish or waterfowls)
red lysh (mithralfish, sunset fish, flunki, water rats, mithanjor, and other small fish or waterfowls)
mithanjor (algae, feylien larvae)
mithralfish (insects, esp. lin’mar’joh, lemertia)
sunset fish (algae and other waterplants, insects, fish eggs)
myrmex (seeds, fruit, carrion, invertebrates)
seean beetle (grass, insect pests)
skeeter (blood)
feylien (blood)
larval dalor flies (slugs and snails)
groshmites (plant material, dead animals)
orm (mainly fruit sugars, invertebrates, carrion)
undefined spider (flies, skeeter, feylien, beetles)

notes: low on small aquatic animals, especially plant eating ones – more algae eating bugs and fishes would be good. Also more waterfowl might help.


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« Reply #11 on: 08 April 2011, 23:17:56 »

Nice! Awesome job Seth. Yes that looks pretty extensive, and as you rightly pointed out the chains get repetitive after a while. I quite like the brackets idea. Might be worth adapting that format instead of the chains. Good call. Even has a little summarising statement at the end... simply brilliant

I'll go about putting that into the top post then +aura from me for the extensive and fast work.

It's super-appreciated!


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