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« Reply #15 on: 16 August 2012, 06:19:17 »

Kelancy, I'm veeeery busy with visitors, so I can't comment in detail nor give more suggestions how to expand on it. Maybe let this sit for a while, you are busy with your masterwork anyway, I fear ;)

BTW, congrats! :D
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« Reply #16 on: 18 August 2012, 07:14:06 »

Name:  Vitrether, 'N'ether', Ether, Sweet Oil of Vitriol

Overview:
Vitrether is a clear, colorless liquid at room temperature, and a gas at human body temperature. It is produced largely by gnomish alchemists for use in surgical procedures and as a solvent in alchemical euxperi. In the operating theater, vitrether may be used to ease childbirth and to sedate someone for surgery. However, some healers prefer herbal concoctions over ether because herbal remedies do not have to be administered throughout the entire surgery. It is very volatile, being a self-sustaining flammable liquid at temperatures around 16 periks.

Description:
Vitrether is clear and colorless in any of its forms.  At room temperature, it is a liquid, but at human body temperature, it is a gas. Vitrether has a characteristic pungent yet sweet smell and taste, akin to sugar dissolved in aceed. Gnomish alchemists have been able to freeze it at extremely low temperatures through application of magical frost, estimated around -17 periks.

Method of Production:
The alchemist first must add 1 part vitriceed to 3 parts alcohol, and she gargles this concoction in a large round bottomed vessel. She then heats the concoction to 3 1/2 periks, no higher. She must distill the resulting vapor through a distillation tube. She shall pour this liquid into a column of charcoal to extract any remaining water and undesirable byproducts. Finally, she lets the resulting liquor drain downward to collect the vitrether in a meabul or flask, and seals the container with wax or a glass stopper.

I don't know, if we have meters which can measure the temperature so precise. Here would be a point, where you could allow your imagination to flow and add something which does not look like transferred directly from simple wiki (apart from some santh names)

Areas of Production:
Vitrether is still produced by Gnorian alchemists, principally for their work on water-insoluble metal complexes.  It is readily available throughout the Santharian kingdom, fetching prices of 1 to 2 copperbards for a 1 tot flask.

Expand a bit! As I proposed already, go e.g. in some detail where it is produced. Please look at the comments I gave already.

Usage:
Solvent
The more common use of vitrether in modern times is as a solvent for liquid-from-liquid extraction, since it is poorly soluble in water.  It can separate out alcohol or other liquids from water.

Expand please, phrase it less scientific.

Anaesthetic
Historically, vitrether was commonly used by chirurgeons and healers for its medicinal properties as an anaesthetic, muscle relaxant and soporific.  Before and during surgery, the person undergoing surgery would inhale vitrether through a sponge, and would lapse into a deep sleep for the duration that they continued inhaling the fumes--presumably for the duration of the surgery.  The experience of inhaling vitrether was described as "going under" or "going to the Netherworld", which gave rise to the colloquial name N'ether.  However, waking from surgery after inhaling ether comes with numerous unpleasant side effects, including hallucinations, nausea, vomiting, and headache.  

Because of this, and because vitrether is flammable at not-too-high temperatures, it has been largely replaced in the chirurgical theater by other anaesthetics which are more predictable, nonflammable, and come with fewer side effects.  For example, lesrin'mar herbal mixture is a potion to be drunk before surgery, and produces sleep with anaesthesia for a period of time depending on how much potion is consumed. However, lesrin'mar mixture requires ingredients which come from opposite ends of the Sarvonian continent, sometimes making it hard to come by. An alternative used by some healers is cha steeped from petals of the wild rose flower, which grows rampantly in shaded forests of Southern Sarvonia. This cha produces anaesthesia and sleep for a prolonged period of time, up to two days or more.

Kelancy, I asked you to omit lersin'mar, because that entry is too contradictory, not to add another inconsistency to the compendium by describing it differently. In addition I had hoped, you would add some more properties or other effects and not only to transfer it more or less 1:1 . I do not find many things here which are special to Santharia.

What about my proposal to mix ether with other things, herbal 'gases' and have different effects? Maybe one plant lessens the negative effects, other makes it work faster. Don't stick to what you know from earth.
I would not describe it so negative, describe the positive sides also.


History of the Industry:
The method of production was discovered in 129 by Jinkar Irfi Hrelvild.  In his time, vitriceed was known to alchemists as oil of vitriol.  As a result of the sweet, acrid smell and taste of the liquid, he coined the term sweet oil of vitriol to describe his discovery.  More recently, vitrether was described by gnomish alchemist Periklesius as an anaesthetic in taenish.  He characterized its alchemical properties, and detailed the beneficial effects of ether for medicinal purposes. He also offered the abbreviated name of 'ether' which is also acceptable to the alchemical community.

What's that?

Myth/Lore:
The Hammersfeld Parchments of 203 a.S. allude to a midwife giving Lady Aerryn ether to swap her dead baby with another woman's live male baby.  The importance of another heir in the lineage of King Thaenos, is a matter left to the historians to sort out.

Just skip this one , so that you are free to do history as it is the best for Virether.

More recently, people of lower castes have taken to adding vitrether to alcoholic beverages to induce some of the muscle relaxing and anaesthetic effects. Because it is not too hard to come by, and because only small amounts are added to a beverage, people have been known to host 'ether parties'. At these ether parties, people seek to escape their daily woes and drug themselves for a short period of perhaps one or two hours with minute doses of vitrether added to their drinks.

That's a bit lame, sorry.

Kelancy, I think you are still too much clutching to the earthen stuff. Let your imagination flow and invent something new, expand on what you have. You did research, so why not mention Malthanune. History might be difficult for a newbie, but you could at least try to bring something up.  There are many things I proposed, mentioned, abolished, but I'm not even sure, you read all or understood, what I meant. Could well be, that I expressed myself unclear. I don't know, how to explain better, what I mean or where to I would like to lead you. Writing parts myself to sow you what I mean is not the best idea, but I'm run out of others. You could make so much more out of this submission.

*sigh*

Well, just try to add some more stuff and we will have an acceptable entry. :)
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« Reply #17 on: 18 August 2012, 23:19:46 »

Thanks, Talia. This 'kick in the pants' is actually just the feedback I needed.

It looks like I will need to majorly overhaul this entry, which I will do when I have a couple or more hours free to reinvent Vitrether. I'll do some more research on site to make it more Santharian.

Again, thank you for your time and feedback!
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« Reply #18 on: 19 August 2012, 15:52:47 »

Well, Kelancy, I'm not sure if I haven't been too strict. After all, the subject was forced upon you ..  grin

If you won't mind somebody else tampering with your submission and sharing the entry, I would write some parts. Add here and there. Introduce the "Show, don't tell", though this was meant for writers, not for commenters ;).

The problem might be though that you have an entirely other style than I have and that it is not what you want to have.

Please be honest. If you don't want my intrusion, just say it.
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« Reply #19 on: 20 August 2012, 00:31:12 »

Actually, Talia, I would appreciate your welcome "tampering" with this entry.  I seem to be having a lot of trouble with it.  You're absolutely correct that I'm sticking too closely to what I can find on Wiki, but I'm having a writer's block on how to make it unique to Caelereth.

Here are some ideas I've come up with thus far, to see if you like these or not:
Pulverized alik'ran root dissolved in vitrether could help with problems related to women's monthly courses.
Mallowdrop sap mixed into vitrether will help with both sore throat and stomach ache.
Trinity herb leaves can be crushed and added to vitrether to enhance the sweetness of it and add to the sedating property of ether, to soothe an uneasy mind.
Nightshade tincture added to vitrether helps with spasmodic illnesses such as strangling disease and vomiting, and help a heartache.
  (Please forgive the promotion of my own bush.  :))

As for the lore, I thought it could maybe be used by the Sanhoirhim as a food preservative when going out to sea?  That way, when they were out at sea and didn't need to preserve any more dry rations, then they could drink any remaining vitrether as an alternative to alcohol!  Just a thought.
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« Reply #20 on: 20 August 2012, 05:12:00 »

Alright!   :)

But as I have visitors I will need some time.
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