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« on: 14 May 2013, 06:35:13 »

I'm happy with how this turned out. :) The first draft was much longer. I extracted as many sections as I could - will package them into separate entries.

Let me know what you think! The entry is available for download as a Word 2003 file; see attachments below.



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- Need to invent a Krean word for "skymind". Inspired by the concepts of "rigpa" (from Tibetan Buddhism) and "zen" (from Zen Buddhism). Currently bookmarked in the text as "[rigpa]".



Inspiration: Taijiquan, Taoism, Buddhism, Avatar: the Last Airbender (the cartoon not the film), the works of Alan Watts, Anne Morrow Lindbergh, Mihaly Csikszentmihalyi and Tenzin Wangyal Rinpoche.

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« Reply #1 on: 15 May 2013, 00:09:12 »

Not downloaded even once? :(
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« Reply #2 on: 15 May 2013, 14:46:54 »

 :D  I'll give this a read through and give you any comments I can, but might take a day or two.  I'll be doing it on my commute, since I have little free time at the moment.
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« Reply #3 on: 22 May 2013, 09:58:36 »

You are a true Philosopher, Coren.  Excellent read.  I think sometimes I hate you when I read this and I think back to my magic system.  Wish I could have explained it with as much detail and depth as you do.  Truth be told, sometimes I had to reread sections to fully understand it.  An aura for you for this. thumbup

I take it you are looking for a word for rigpa?
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« Reply #4 on: 24 May 2013, 05:19:23 »

Thanks Alt! Your words mean a lot. :D

And yes, I need to invent a Krean word to replace "[rigpa]/[zen]".
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« Reply #5 on: 23 July 2013, 07:26:10 »

Coren I read portions of the entry.  I am still working on it.  However so far it is fascinating.  A well thought through entry.  It flows well. :)

Definitiely deserves an Aura +1 for the detail and complex thought that went into it.

I like that the entry is detailed and provides a sense of who the monks are, not just what they can do.  This really enriches the culture.

Nevertheless, I was searching for an explanation as to what the monks could actually do with this power (besides the meditation and sense of calm).  Does this feel more like religion or magic.  I am not sure.  I suppose magic since there is no deity involved.  What are yuor thoughts?

I will keep reading.
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« Reply #6 on: 07 August 2013, 05:38:37 »

Thank you for taking the time to read and comment, Seeker! Regarding what the monks can actually do with this power, I've included a section on "Abilities and Practice". Have you had a chance to look through this yet?

But you're absolutely right! I've been a bit vague on that point - probably because I'm still trying to figure it out myself! Haha. :D


EDIT: I was planning to write a separate entry on their beliefs, called "the Way of Wind and Water". Not sure in which century I will get around to that though...
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« Reply #7 on: 11 August 2013, 11:32:26 »

Coren I read the abilities and practice section again.  thumbup  I guess my question then is why practice flowmancy.  the other magical disciplines have more obvious motivatiion, such as power to kill or power to create.  Flowmancy I think is more of a discipline to help the flowmancer find peace.  Is this correct?  More of a meditation type thing.  Correct?

Anyhow the entry is very detailed and well done and helps to flesh out the Krean culture. +1 Aura for all the hard work.
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« Reply #8 on: 11 August 2013, 15:34:24 »

Thanks Seeker! Maybe future entries on each of the six styles would be a good place to elaborate on what exactly flowmancy can do? What do you think?

As to why practice flowmancy:

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(7)   Flowmancy as spiritual practice
The Krean spiritual disciplines are ways of awakening to the actual sensation of oneself as a process vaster by far than what is ordinarily felt to be ‘I’ – that very limited centre of conscious attention and volition which we call the person or ego.

Krean monks of the Way see Flowmancy first and foremost as a spiritual art, not a system which gives them power and allows them to work magic. To them, it is a form of contemplative practice, a way to attain liberation and enlightenment. They practice it with the aim of understanding the Flow, and therefore nature, thereby learning to pattern themselves after it.

The monks say that as our practice grows deeper, we begin to see that the essence of all that arises is empty. When we do, then every moment of life is free and all experience is spiritual practice: all sound is mantra, all form is pure emptiness, and all suffering is a teaching. This is what is meant by ‘transforming into the path’.


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Flowmancy I think is more of a discipline to help the flowmancer find peace.  Is this correct?  More of a meditation type thing.  Correct?

Yes, I'd say so. They're monks after all ;)
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« Reply #9 on: 15 August 2013, 04:29:06 »

Heya. May I consult you guys on something? 11 pages is a bit of a monster, however complex or entertaining the subject matter might be. And the longer an entry is, the less joyful the commenting gets. Reading and reviewing the work becomes a 6-hour process. Very few people (myself included) have the time to undertake commentary of these proportions. And even when there is time, it's hard to muster the motivation.

Could you help me break this into smaller entries? I'll read through it again to see what can be done. I would really appreciate your ideas.

The aim is to reduce this from 11 to no more than 3 pages. Everything else to be gift-wrapped into its very own satellite entry.

We can do it!  number1


EDIT: I think I nailed it! Will post in the coming days.
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