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[Artimidor Federkiel]

If you develop new Thergerim (dwarvish) vocabulary, please reply to this thread mentioning the new words (a gender is not required at Thergerim nouns) and the translation(s).

From time to time this thread will be emptied when all accumulated words are put into the Thergerim dictionary on the site.

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Edited by: Artimidor Federkiel at: 8/16/05 21:27

[Artimidor Federkiel]

New Thergerim vocabulary is prepared now...

I've noticed the following problems/contradictions when integrating the new vocabulary:

Of - Es (e.g., Lord of Rock = KorimEsTrum)
Problem: We already have "of" (Ze)

Aroon - circle ('aronun' - round, circular)
Problem: We already have "Aroon" (Chest)

20 = Bargol
Problem: Initially "BarGolzeron". Guess you decided to shorten that long word (especially when looking at higher number which could turn out pretty long), so that would be ok.
(see also 30, 40, 50 etc.)

500 = Hutgyr
Problem: You say 100=Oltgyr, 200=BarOltgyr, suddenly the "Olt" is ommitted at Hutgyr. Seems like a mistake (case at the 1000 concept suggests that as well), so I added the "Olt" there as well = HutOltgyr. Let me know if this is correct.
However, at your example you say:
2673 = Baregri'tinngyr'dengol'berbar
Seems that the second part misses an "e" plus the "Olt" thingy (in case you can confirm this). So I came up with this result - can you tell me if this is correct? (Please note also that I always try to show the single word parts by writing capital letters to make it easier to understand, maybe you could do this at future vocabulary as well):
2673 = BarEgri'EtinnOltgyr'DenGol'Berbar....

BTW: As you somtetimes add more detailed explanations why this and that is written in a special way I thought I'll collect these things in the main entry on the language under "Additional Notes" at the bottom. Maybe a complete page develops from that sometime or we put it in another format, but at least the information isn't lost.

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[Chronusian]

A little bland but...

Spike of Death - ZinDemKhor

Horrible, Yes, but...

The bolt developed by Theregrim which preceded the Ballista... I'll come up with the Crossbow name later. There is no word for bow... So I'll try to get there otherwise, unless I try to make up a name for the bow myself.   I'll try to come up with something more creative then ZinDemKhor also.

Also, the word Khor is very similar to Coor. Is ther some connection?

When you look past all the evil
The scorn and hate of the world
You see a hero, the light
Only in the end will that light shine

Edited by: Chronusian at: 10/8/03 16:19

[Artimidor Federkiel]

I think the name looks quite ok with me, so I'll put it in the entry as well...

However, death means "Khorim", so it's "ZinDemKohrim" in fact. And yup, I think "Khorim" derives indeed from Coór.

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[Rayne (Alýr)]

Shir = Cat

...Ripples in the Dream Pool...

[Victhorin]

build (builder)...-  Bachik
knowledge.......-  Bol (from Styrásh "bóll" = knowledge)
book...............-  Hutlkat
hurt................-  Kem
luck...............-  Amril
revenge..........-  GuulPragoz (lit. back-take)
room..............-  OonEen (lit. small-home)

military, army.-  Tharezerons (lit. axes)
soldier...........-  Shofim
defend...........-  Terok
attack............-  Koret
war................-  Koreterons (lit. many attacks)
peace............-  Eka (from Styrásh "eyá" = peace)
guard.............-  HeorEka (lit. keep-peace)

Revenge

Edited by: Victhorin at: 3/26/04 11:08

[Bard Judith]

Just for info, as all dwarven vocab is being entered into the Language Machine by yours truly...


BarolRotrum (Father Mountain)

HoaRusun (The Coal-Bellied)

Hlakoroon – lava lake

Hlahujit (Flame-wombed)

Hujit - womb

Jit (‘jeet’) –centre

Yabarrah - Bachelor (unwed male dwarf)  

Yehurra -  Maiden (unwed female dwarf)  

Lekunn - Child (1 to 10 human-years of age, not yet weaned)

Shorr - Adolescent  (young dwarf under the age of Hu/Baregozar)  

Kavoninn Yabarrah – Travelling Bachelor

[Ganinon]

Jsut a quick question. Why would the dwarfs be called Thergerim if the word for earth is Koga and there is no being or bonded?jw if you see there would be need for change might i suggest just making a formal way of saying earth and then add being and bonded to the vocab.

[Ta`lia of the Seven Jewels]

The word for the element eath is koga, while the word for earth=dirt is ger.

Just have a second look at the vocabulary:

[earth (see also 'dirt')      noun      gert      gert
Earth (the elemental form - but see also 'earth', 'dirt')    noun    Koga

dirt (Also see 'earth')      noun      ger


 thergetyr      noun      tribe; clan
theroon    theroon    noun    family

[Bard Judith]

New noun:

Shae - music

Gordn - dawn

Note to self:  The Dwarven Singspeaker Pola DawnSung  (GordnShaeVer, literally 'startday-music-past') needs to be credited in the development history of the SingSpeaker machines

[Bard Judith]

Just for Grunok - AND, since for some inexplicable reason none of the existing words for stone types are in the dictionary on the site... the others!

'Gerhae' - sand 
 'hak'  - quartz 
'GerhaeHak' - Greywhacke sandstone

unph - basalt
korun - granite
kann - marble
aephe - flint
kwont - obsidian
trum - rock
hothe - limestone
gerhothe - sandstone
sthon - stone

[Ganinon]

Is there a way to show the letters er after a word in Thergerim. I could not find it in their principles, might be missing it though. Ill look through it again.

[Bard Judith]

Do you mean a comparative (cute, cuter) or a suffix indicating 'the one who does the action'?

We have both: here, for your info, is a list of commonly used suffixes and prefixes to modify dwarven words.

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ka   away from, from   KaFerOon = travel (leaving)        Kafon, to travel
pra   towards, to   PraTheroon = reunion, meeting     Pratheron, to meet
re   hold, keep back   Reardenim = waiting     Rearden, to wait
pu   open, release   CoPuGolzeron = fists, literally “not-open-hand-plural”
dis   negative, reversed   DisPor = lost, literally  “not - located”
huun   remove, out of     HuunGer, =  dig,        Hunsthomm - excavate
guun   after   as in guul, back.    GuunNolWerfer =   Gunolwerf - resettle
wehrn   before   as in wer, front      KhorimWehrn = old age
ta   again, repeat   TaHuhn = forge, strike
ko   do the opposite of   KoThergerim = undwarven ways, discourteous
pe   with, together   as in peNegrinUth, surrounding  (lit. “with - all - us”)
tol   below, under   as in tol,  underground
ke   above   as in kerrin, high
un   like, same,  resembling   UnSthommErons = those like stone
ber   next to, beside   BerKerrin =  subordinate (next to high one)
yeh   do, doing   Yeh-Gerinn = farming    YehMith = metalworking
ek    More, -er   Thus:  unarilek, ekunaril = prettier (no ‘than’ is required in a dwarven sentence of comparison)
it    Most, -est   unarilit, itunaril = prettiest (no ‘the’ is required in a dwarven sentence of comparison)
yim   One who does something, -er, -ist   a suffix used for a person or title, such as ‘Muryim’, Miner – from ‘mur’, meaning ‘mine’ 


You will see from this list that you can make a comparative form with 'ek', either at the beginning or end of a word.

If you want to create a title, you can add 'yim' - which works for both our tharian 'er' and 'ist', as in 'miner' and 'violinist'.     

Hope that helps!

[Ganinon]

Thanks Judy! I was making a dwarven cook that his last name might be something about food maker...Make his whole family for generations be cooks so the name would work. Thanks again!

[Bard Judith]

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