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« on: 14 January 2002, 03:21:00 »

If you develop new styrásh (elvish) vocabulary, please reply to this thread mentioning the new words, along with gender (if it is a noun) and the translation(s).

From time to time this thread will be emptied when all accumulated words are put into the styrásh dictionary on the site.

You can/should use the typical endings to construct correct elven words! Here they are:

Typical endings of nouns:

Masculine endings:
-aér, -aín, -ál, -ála, -ásh, -én, -ér, -és, -éth, -éy, -íc, -íl, -ím, -ín, -ír, -óc, -óg, -ól, -ón, -ór, ós

Feminine endings:
-á, -ách, -aí, -áj, -án, -aó, -ár, -ás, -áz, -áth, -éf, -él, -erá, -eró, -eú, -euá, -ía, -iár, -ly, -só, -thán, -uá, -ýr


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« Reply #1 on: 23 July 2002, 11:03:00 »

Requesting:
• You (or something to refer to another party)
• Long, short, etc (adjectives. I'm also not quiet sure how to use them. Do you just combine them to the front of the noun you want to describe using an apostrophe? Or do you not combine them? And how are adverbs used? The verb is suppose to go first but might you somehow combine the adverb to the beginning of the verb? Sorry.. too many questions.. @.@; )
• Who, Where, How, When (words used to make simple questions)

We may want to consider a page that just has simple phrases on it like "How are you?" "I am well" "My name is _____" etc. We have to take into consideration, I think, the fact that most people don't know German or French and probably haven't had much exposure to it. It's just a suggestion, though. ^_^''

o.o; Did I just go off-topic? >.< Maybe someone can develope the Styrásh word for "sorry" for me?

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« Reply #2 on: 07 December 2002, 23:46:00 »

www.santharia.com/runes/styrash.htm

Ok, things we need:

Hello (Maybe Good Day, Good Morning, and Good Evening)
Thank you
You're Welcome
Goodbye
Goodnight
Good luck
Colors: Red, Orange, Yellow, Green, Blue, Purple, White, Black, Pink, ect.

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« Reply #3 on: 26 April 2003, 14:40:00 »

I've noticed the following problems/contradictions when integrating the new vocabulary:

RAYNE:

Bird: shátin
Cow: moúln
Cry, to: lótus’chuhán (lit. tears falling?), "lotus" also cannot mean "tears", that's not a styrásh word
Horse: gélnár ("horse" is already existing)
Lovely: aláen (sounds too similar to aleán)
Spirit: ó'cár'chón (have implemented that as ó'chón'cár)
sható: wing (is not an elvish ending, implemented it as shatór)
Winged: shátoén / shácén (also not elvish; I've added now shatán=to fly, therefore shatí=winged in the sende of flying)

VIRESSE:
Maevrhan: to Fly (aside from the fact that I've created another word for "fly" already - I think "flying tribe" wouldn't fit too well for the Maeverhim, don't you think?)

TIMERAS:
ko: great (doesn't sound elvish, changed that to chó)

SILFER:
elíanar - heal (not an elvish verb, verbs end with -án, changed it to elián)
carél-thee/you (you is already existing, see verb conjugation, now added)
aríne-to strike (not an elvish verb, verbs end with -án, changed it to arneán)
in'arenán- un-able (to be unable = changed to e'arnán)
lanié-to fly (no elvish word, already decided above)
Lianér- with (not very good to have a long word fo such an important word; changed to é)
tú-for (doesn't sound elvish either, also a short word is better, changed to í)


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« Reply #4 on: 14 July 2003, 10:35:00 »

There are differences of course, some of these differences are also mentioned on the site at the Styrásh entry. Elves are very nature oriented and therefore express things completely different. Quoted from the entry:

So if an elf wants to express that it's raining he'd say (translated) "the sky gives water" or if it's dark he'd say "the sky negates color".

Very significant in this respect is the preposition "ésh" (untranslated word), which expresses ideas of other races the elves don't have in their language , for example "ésh-dél" meaning some kind of "(false) magic", or at least an idea of magic which is not original to elves.

I assume dark elves have their own twists in language, expressing their differences to "normal" Styrásh.


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« Reply #5 on: 11 October 2003, 14:08:00 »

Aheharán - to be uncultured or unelven
Aheharás - Heathen, Uncutlured Female. Dervived from Ahrhim. Also a derogatory term for one from this tribe
Aheharós - Heathen, Uncultured male. Dervived from Ahrhim. Also a derogatory term for one from this tribe
Ahehari - plural?


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« Reply #6 on: 11 October 2003, 14:24:00 »

cár'ámn - Muse
 


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« Reply #7 on: 13 October 2003, 11:50:00 »

Can we make cár'reóll also mean "focus" or "center"? Because the elves believe that the heart should always be the focus of ones feelings and emotions, thir behavior, the center and thus the most important part.

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« Reply #8 on: 14 October 2003, 15:00:00 »

We have a word for centre. But I don't see why, as in English, we can't have words with overlapping meanings. Such that one means Focus, Center in a more spiritual sense of the words and the other means Certer, Middle in a more geographic/mathmatical sense of the word.


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« Reply #9 on: 05 September 2005, 06:08:00 »

Hahahahaa, I searched for injer'merin but I totaly forgot to search sunflower:p ;)

Maybe I'll change it into injèr'cál'merín (desert-flower)
I'll look it up first though...:rollin

It's clean:thumbup  

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« Reply #10 on: 16 September 2005, 18:36:00 »

I think this one is good...
Wolf = Kerásh  

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« Reply #11 on: 19 November 2005, 02:45:00 »

I know it's a bit late to make this observation, but "revolting" can also be an adjective as in "What a revolting smell!"

I can't remember the rule for this off the top of my head, but only certain types of verbs can be used as adjectives in their present participial form. Another couple of examples are "continuing" and "fascinating".

However, Styrásh won't necessarily form deverbal adjectives in the same way.

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« Reply #12 on: 06 December 2005, 07:40:00 »

I guess unless Artimidor says that Styrásh does something different, it'd be OK for you to use jhéhelli "revolting" as an adjective.

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« Reply #13 on: 07 December 2005, 15:14:00 »

I need a word for invisible so

ó'vaián ever + seen for visible

e'ó not ever or never

e'ó'vaián never seen or invisible

I also want to use a word for mouth so i figure

phóilánaér for maker

Old Ylffer krètén'phóilánaér for noise maker or mouth

modern Styrásh shortened to krèténaér in the Nymbelmarian diallect this is krètánaér.





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« Reply #14 on: 07 December 2005, 22:02:00 »

I also want to use a word for mouth so i figure

phóilánaér for maker

Old Ylffer krètén'phóilánaér for noise maker or mouth

modern Styrásh shortened to krèténaér in the Nymbelmarian diallect this is krètánaér.



Hmmmm....   Not to be obvious, but why wouldn't elves just call a mouth a mouth?  I know they have a philosophical culture but generally body parts and basic things like that have simple, 'root word' names.  I really can't see an elven baby trying to lisp her way through the tongue-twister above!

It would be more likely that the word for 'noise' comes from the word for 'mouth' than the other way around....

With that in mind, why not simply give the syllable 'kre' (if not already assigned in Styrash) the meaning 'mouth'?





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