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Organization and General Discussions => Development Master Plans => Topic started by: Artimidor Federkiel on 27 February 2007, 06:29:30



Title: Manthria Master Plan Discussion
Post by: Artimidor Federkiel on 27 February 2007, 06:29:30
Post here all suggestions concerning what should be added to the Manthrian Master Plan (view it in detail here (http://www.santharia.com/dev/index.php?topic=11455.0)) that is currently in the works.


Title: Re: Manthria Master Plan Discussion
Post by: Coren FrozenZephyr on 05 March 2007, 03:05:53
Whew! You made quite a progress at the Manthrian Master Plan since I last visitied!

Should a 'who is working on what' post also be added? (and/or these could (also) be marked under each item)


Title: Re: Manthria Master Plan Discussion
Post by: Artimidor Federkiel on 06 March 2007, 04:06:20
Well, I gave it a start, but the definition as well as the realization is meant as a team project and suggestions of what to add to the plan are welcomed and needed. Who is working on what will be added just like picture reservations at the pictures threads. I will use this plan myself to realize further bits of what we've defined here. I won't write any entries outside of these masterplans.

It is also encouraged to make other master plans to work through them. We want to give development a direction, so taking on the responsibility to define what we need is required first.


Title: Re: Manthria Master Plan Discussion
Post by: Trelstahl on 12 March 2007, 06:39:35
Hi Arti,

I was looking through the Master Plan, and specifically the section on Places.  Only by poking around was I able to learn that Judy is planning on writing the entry for the city called Klinsor, for example.  It would be really useful to stick a name with each of these places (I think Grunok is listed beneath Chrondra, which is very useful) to help us figure out who is doing what, and what is actually available to do.

For instance, could I start putting the entry together for Kor Mithrid, or does someone else have plans to do it?

Trel.


Last edit - err... looks like Kor Mithrid is in the works as well.





Title: Re: Manthria Master Plan Discussion
Post by: Artimidor Federkiel on 12 March 2007, 07:32:03
I'm not aware that Kor Mithrid is actually in the works - where did you read that? It could be that Judy wanted to do the entry, but nothing's been decided for sure yet as far as I know. - Judy?

There would also be another larger dwarven settlement in that region, that could be worked on: Tyr Ethran. At any rate: If you do a dwarven entry, Trelstahl, make sure to read up on various dwarf stuff - Judy has written great entries on their culture! For example there's also an entry on a dwarven town, Een Puvtyr (http://www.santharia.com/places/een_puvtyr.htm). I personally think it would be great to get another dwarven place on the site!

P.S. There might have been other plans of people doing specific entries, but this was surely before the master plan definitions, and quite a while ago. So important is what we decide now, and these things will be reserved in the thread.


Title: Re: Manthria Master Plan Discussion
Post by: Takór Salenár on 12 March 2007, 08:20:03
Well, where is this old reserving (resources) places thread we had once?

 {I saw as well - what irritated me a bit - that you took the places proposals out of the main forum about proposals . Do you want to have the proposal threads taken out and into the special forums? (the cosmology thread into the cosmology forum? e.g. )}

I won't be able to do it soon, but I would like to reserve Thunderclaim Castle and Griffin's Marl for me as the seat of the former Darian king/leader and for its importance to form the province Truban. I think it is not Manthria anyway, according to the maps (provinces and dutchies)

When we started to rewrite the Avennorian tribe entry I asked you, if I could do clothes, (and you agreed).


Title: Re: Manthria Master Plan Discussion
Post by: Trelstahl on 12 March 2007, 09:10:03
Hi Art,

 :sorry:  I looked back at the conversation that mentioned Kor Mithrid.  It was between Judy, Thuja and someone named Palcadon and took place back in 2002.  Probably a little dated.  The conversation is below:

http://www.santharia.com/dev/index.php?topic=9173.msg102534#msg102534 (http://www.santharia.com/dev/index.php?topic=9173.msg102534#msg102534)

This entry is very important and given my lack of experience here, Judy would be the most appropriate person to write this entry.  If Judy doesn't have plans to work on this and is willing to defer it to another, I would be happy to reserve it.


Trel.


Title: Re: Manthria Master Plan Discussion
Post by: Bard Judith on 12 March 2007, 21:11:40
I don't currently have plans to work on Kor Mithrid!   I do need to be involved in any development of it, but that can be a back-and-forth sort of discussion.  At the moment I'm still getting settled in (in Korea, teaching ESL at a major university, with my family) and transferring files (just got my brandnew computer yesterday and am piggybacking on someone else's wireless service....) so not a lot of time yet to spare for developing.

If other senior developers agree that a place entry of this magnitude can be put up for grabs by a newcomer, I'm happy to have someone else work on it.  Based solely on the courteous and careful phrasing of your posts above, I don't feel any trepidation allowing Kor Mithrid into your hands... (grin) just do the research and read up on all the extant references in the Compendium first!  Then post an outline of your concepts, and I'll be happy to look it over and comment and brainstorm with you.     

Again, that's if no one else has any difficulty with that.  I'd personally love to have a reliable person come join me in the Belowsurface world of the Mitharim! 


Title: Re: Manthria Master Plan Discussion
Post by: Artimidor Federkiel on 13 March 2007, 03:54:13
I guess you showed that you can do your homeworks with your first entry, Trelstahl, and I also notice that you looked to find stuff on Kor Mithrid here on the Forum as you found Judy's reservation. While that reservation was somewhat outdated, it demonstrates that you try to do your things thoroughly :)

Places entries, as Judy says, of course in general are more complex than other entries. You need to know about the dwarven race, that specific tribes and the surroundings and perhaps a bit of history - which is more demanding than describing a plant or a beast for example. So you'd need to stick with it a while to get it done, but such entries are what really helps the project a good step forward. I'm sure we can help out as well here and there if you need help. But yep, from my side I would say: Just give it a try - with a bit of dedication to that idea we can do it together :)


Title: Re: Manthria Master Plan Discussion
Post by: Arceon Barrurbeleth on 13 March 2007, 04:21:18
Could I have a try at the current Thane of Manthria?


Title: Re: Manthria Master Plan Discussion
Post by: Artimidor Federkiel on 13 March 2007, 04:31:06
Quite an interesting undertaking, Arceon... But why not? I'd like to see some progress in the master plan fields. Don't know what you'll make of our Thane, but just make sure to give him a typical Avennorian name and some stuff to do. Not every currently living Thane needs to be an absolute celebrity and worshipped by the commoners - so just write what you have in mind for this guy/gal, and we'll see :)

@Takór: Ooops... Missed your question methinks. Avennorian Clothing: Yeah, I'll reserve that for you, okeydokey? - Places will be resereved as soon as mini-descriptions are available.

Proposal threads: Yes, I'd like to keep Places in the Places Forum. I would in general try to reduce the amount of Forums, so that we don't have too many and get lost in them. Like the Continents Forums, the Requests, Workshop, Organizational stuff etc. many of these things could be harboured in single Forums or in subforums. The more Forums we get the less certain parts are used. That is not good. So as a first step (so far) I kept the Places proposals at the Places Forum.


Title: Re: Manthria Master Plan Discussion
Post by: Bard Judith on 05 April 2007, 23:03:18
Seems this list (see below) drowned in the Forum depths or the switchover.   We agreed that the current thaneship was held by our Duke Swanhild.... has Arceon started on that entry yet?

 Perhaps, Art, you could move this table (sorry that I can't figure out how to put it in proper table format) to the Politics section of the Manthrian Master Plan?  Progress!  And a spot to add pictures!   We even have a place already for one of Faugar's pictures which I reserved AGES ago...(grins)   Obviously some of the names may have to be altered now that we are working on specific 'dialects' for the different regions.   You and I will have to talk about that!

---------------------------------------------------------

List of Current Rulers and Title Holders in the Kingdom of Santharia


MANTHRIA – Thane Swanhild, ruling from Marcogg

Duchy   Title & Name   Short Biography

Duchy of Marcogg   Duke Swanhild   The largest and arguably wealthiest of the Duchies, it stretches from Grensa Post in the north to the western coast and down to the Mashdai river, including the city of Marcogg and the great range of the Mithral Mountains.  Duke Swanhild, a taciturn urbanite, (see the Marcogg entry for more information)  relies a great deal upon his subholders and Graves to provide information and keep the trade routes open.

Duchy of Twynor  - Duke Jhondath Meyhan

   "In this illustration Duke Jhondath is sitting in session to hear some local disputes between farmers as to where the boundary lines of their fields are... behind him we see construction proceeding on the new town hall....” (Faugar #4).  He is simply dressed, as is his wont, and spends a great deal of social as well as administrative time with his Graves and smaller landholders, taking his duties regarding the fertile farmlands of Twynor quite seriously.


Duchy of Tolonia - Duchess Sarissa Truefaith   

A lean woman of about forty-five, Duchess Sarissa has never wed, and is said to be a devotee of the little-known elven goddess Ava.  Her lands are on the western coast, overlooking the Gulf of Maraya.  She holds the small and rather bleak Heath of Tolonia without Grave assistance; rather, her few barons report directly to her regarding clay mining and brick production, the duchy’s main source of income.


Duchy of Caeytharia - Duke Harald Gryndiffyr   

Duke Harald is a wealthy man and favors silvery silks which set off his extensive collection of pearl jewelry rather well.  If they seem incongruous on his two-ped tall, burly frame, you are welcome to chuckle; the Duke has an easy laugh and self-deprecating humour that belies the tight grip he has over his prosperous duchy. He is a direct descendent of the early Avennorians who first developed the pearl farms and fisheries along the coast near Ciosa. 


Duchy of Huiscen - Duchess Alana Rittmark   

Huiscen’s grassy plains and grazing lands are well-watched by Duchess Alana, a strongly-built blonde woman who spends most of her time a-horse.  The Rittmark family is new to the nobility, as many a sly court lady of Santhala has noted, but it cannot be gainsaid that Huiscen prospers under her earthy guidance.


Duchy of Margulf - Duke Pelenni Margulf   

This duchy was given to the Margulf family for some great deed of assistance to the Crown in the past and has been held by them since time out of mind ever since.  The salt-washed strip of clay and rock coast along the Gulf of Maraya, hemmed in by the Auturian Woods, holds little attraction for Duke Pelenni, an urbane socialite who spends most of his time in the capital.  He has been heard to jest, not without some bitterness, that the duchy of Margulf is a family curse, rather than an inheritance. 


Auturian Stý'cál   The Auturian Woods   The Elven Wood demesnes are not subject to human rule. 






Title: Re: Manthria Master Plan Discussion
Post by: Artimidor Federkiel on 21 April 2007, 02:22:37
And before I forget it: I'd like to reserve the entry on Ciosa's Rest (Deep Julin Barrows), which should become a crystal cave of enormous proportions below Mount Evermourn. May last a while until I can get to that one properly, but this seems ot be a fascinating entry for my and a fabulous attraction in general in that region one shouldn't miss.


Title: Re: Manthria Master Plan Discussion
Post by: Drúadan on 26 April 2007, 06:21:38
I guess I might as well do the small part I can to help the master plan along...

Can I reserve the Tethinrhim Ria Entry? I'm hoping to do all the Tethinrhim rewrites in the long run, after this doing the woods, and then maybe the tribe itself, but we shall see. Anyway, assuming it's okay with Artimidor I'm gonna get started ASAP.

And thats enough projects for me for now... Time to make a dev schedule. :grin:


Title: Re: Manthria Master Plan Discussion
Post by: Drasil Razorfang on 26 April 2007, 06:30:55
Umm Dru, as shown recently in the races forum, tribe entries and revisions and such can only be done by members.


Title: Re: Manthria Master Plan Discussion
Post by: Drúadan on 26 April 2007, 06:40:50
Whoops... ok, scratch that, but can I atleast do the Ria?


Title: Re: Manthria Master Plan Discussion
Post by: Artimidor Federkiel on 26 April 2007, 06:46:18
We're easing things up a bit in this regard in the future - but yes, the Ria would be a challenge to try, as are most Places entries. And as I see you plan to do more in this context, Drúadan, I'd say yes, give it a try.


Title: Re: Manthria Master Plan Discussion
Post by: Drúadan on 26 April 2007, 07:14:23
Thanks, I'll work on it during the next week and have it up soon.


Title: Re: Manthria Master Plan Discussion
Post by: Takór Salenár on 05 May 2007, 21:38:31
Just had a look at that orderly list.
Ravenport --- Gean
Klinsor -- Juidth?


Title: Re: Manthria Master Plan Discussion
Post by: Miraran Tehuriden on 05 May 2007, 22:01:48
Mmh.. i just realised i've never, ever aided the Manthria Master Plan before.. maybe I could revise the Auturian Woods?


Title: Re: Manthria Master Plan Discussion
Post by: Artimidor Federkiel on 05 May 2007, 22:13:11
@Takór: Don't know if Judy still wants to do Klinsor, I guess she reserved it already quiiiiite a while ago (as she also made game descriptions there, so there's material!). I can mark Gean for Ravenport, ok Gean?

@Mira: Auturian Woods could use a major update, indeed - entry is filled with holes as of yet. If you'd like to, yup, you're invited!  :grin:


Title: Re: Manthria Master Plan Discussion
Post by: Miraran Tehuriden on 05 May 2007, 22:57:30
Added to my scedule (with a priority flag, or it would have taken years :P)


Title: Re: Manthria Master Plan Discussion
Post by: Takór Salenár on 06 May 2007, 01:19:01
I don't know if Gean is around at the moment, but I know for sure that he wants to do Ravenport as his "masterwork" and has put already some thoughts or work in it.


Title: Re: Manthria Master Plan Discussion
Post by: Hylphán on 27 June 2007, 22:27:19
Artimidor,  How detailed do you want these places mini descriptions to be?  What kind of info needs to be in them, and is there some info already in various threads throughout the forums?  Let me know if i can help... maybe the Tolonian Heath, or the Caeytharin Mountains.
Thanks!


Title: Re: Manthria Master Plan Discussion
Post by: Artimidor Federkiel on 28 June 2007, 03:22:17
Mini descriptions are made in order to provide a basis for someone else to develop an entry. You could say that such a mini description equals the Overview part of a regular entry, mentioning the most important things you would read about in a full entry.

Examples of mini descriptions you can find at the Manthrian map (http://www.santharia.com/maps/provinces/manthria_frame.htm). Click on the coloured texts and you'll see the mini-descriptions to the right (some descriptions are larger, especially if there's an entry already). Places that don't have a description as of yet are not coloured. If you have ideas on a location or two, feel free to post, Hylphán! :)


Title: Re: Manthria Master Plan Discussion
Post by: Ashlea Aquamara on 31 December 2007, 03:10:52
Hey, could I reserve Celessra? The little town near the Zeiphyrian Forests? I want to try something big :P


Title: Re: Manthria Master Plan Discussion
Post by: Bard Judith on 31 December 2007, 03:23:39

Hello, Ashlea!

Generally we prefer newcomers (and I see this is your first post ever, at least on the development board) to introduce themselves in the appropriate forum, give a bit of history, and politely request an area to work on.

I'm glad you are interested in place development - we can always use more town builders - but how about stepping on over to the Newcomers' Forum and saying hello first?  We like to know who we might be working with, and what their skills and abilities are.   

At this point Celessra is not 'taken', but apprentice developers don't usually start off with places because of the complexity of the template: you need to be familiar with the area's history, fauna and flora, geography and natural resources, the various tribes in the region, and so on.  It's very daunting for newcomers to do right, and in the process of editing, integrating critique and comments, and rewriting, many simply give up and leave an unfinished mangle on the boards - not something anyone is happy with!   

However, do come introduce yourself properly, give us a brief bio and let us know how long you've been familiarizing yourself with Santharia, and what you had in mind.  We're always happy to provide a plate of Kao-kao Dochnut cookies and some drinks for the wanderer within our gates!

Regards from the bard,
Judith


Title: Re: Manthria Master Plan Discussion
Post by: Artimidor Federkiel on 31 December 2007, 03:34:00
Yeah, Ashlea, I pretty much wanted to post the same thing as Judy did - a Places entry requires for example that you know the tribe behind that town very well and some key things about history etc. I don't know what your ideas are in this respect and how much you know Santharia already, and judging from the fact that this was your first post, I would say perhaps starting a tad smaller would be recommended...


Title: Re: Manthria Master Plan Discussion
Post by: Mannix on 20 June 2008, 13:54:31
Just wondering Arti, should Hawkeye Quarry be in the plan.  It's in Mantharia, west of Ciosa, I think.  I think somebody started it ages ago, but haven't been here for years.


Title: Re: Manthria Master Plan Discussion
Post by: Drúadan on 20 June 2008, 19:50:57
I believe, Mannix, that the Masterplan is only for those entries that are most important to the region. While I can't say I've read the Hawkeye entry attempt you mentioned, I do not think it is a defining spot in manthria. This plan is for tribes of the region, big places like the Auturian woods Mira is doing, and other important or fairl important spots. If you look at the detailed manthrian map, you'll notice that there are a LOT of gray names; places that have never been detailed or mentioned. We obviously don't have all of them here, and I suspect Hawkeye quarry is just another example of that type of scenario.

I leasy I'm pretty sure all that is true. :D


Title: Re: Manthria Master Plan Discussion
Post by: Mannix on 20 June 2008, 22:28:22
Okay, I wasn't too sure, so I just thought I'd post incase.  Sorry for wasting your time.

Mannix


Title: Re: Manthria Master Plan Discussion
Post by: Ganinon on 25 July 2008, 02:23:20
Would Tyr Donian, be important enough for the masterplan? Just wondering. When(or if) i get my pretzels done, i might want to do Tyr Donian or Tyr Ethran.

Main reason for this post, was to see if Tyr Donian was important enough to be on the list.


Title: Re: Manthria Master Plan Discussion
Post by: Artimidor Federkiel on 25 July 2008, 05:47:32
Guess it's Tyr Donion (with an "o"), isn't it? It's surely a major dwarven town, so definitely fits to the master plan... - Are you firm with dwarves, Ganinon? At any rate we'd need to hear from Judy on this one, maybe she has plans for one of the two locations etc.


Title: Re: Manthria Master Plan Discussion
Post by: Ganinon on 25 July 2008, 06:31:29
I have at least 3 mitharim Dwarves on the Rp side. And read through it when ever i have nothing to do. But i at least want to get my Prezzers up to the commenting stage before even really thinking about anything else.


Title: Re: Manthria Master Plan Discussion
Post by: Nsikigan Ho´Tonanese Yourth on 31 July 2008, 06:46:45
Just a question fo the Mantharian Sages here- Is any part of the King's Hollow really in Mantharia? Researching for an in-planning Rimmerians Ring entry, I noticed quite a few references to things that were in/are found in the "Mantharian part of the Rimmerians Ring. However, looking at the province map, It doesn't seem to me that any part of the Ring lies within Mantharia. Am I wrong, or were the entries?


Title: Re: Manthria Master Plan Discussion
Post by: Artimidor Federkiel on 31 July 2008, 23:01:56
A quick answer: No, the Rimmerins Ring isn't in the Manthrian region as this map (http://www.santharia.com/maps/provinces/manthria/manthria_duchies.jpg) clearly proves.

A now you only need make sure that you write Manthria (not Mantharia) and that it's the Rimmerins Ring (not the Rimmerians Ring). In case of doubt, leave out the "a", eh? ;)


Title: Re: Manthria Master Plan Discussion
Post by: Nsikigan Ho´Tonanese Yourth on 01 August 2008, 07:26:01
*Prepares for flogging from Talia*
Sorry it'll never happen ag-
Hey....
There's no g in Rimmerins!
*sings* Even the best fall down sometimes, even the wrong words-
erm....
My mistake.
*prepares for a flogging from Art*

Anyways...
After the floggings...
That teaches me to program santharian words into my MS Word dictionary.
Ugh.... I suppose I'll have to look up all these entries, and take out the references to the part of the Rimmerians Ring that have suspiciously turned up in Manthria..... Well, I've got a duelist to finish, so that'll come later.


Title: Re: Manthria Master Plan Discussion
Post by: Wren on 11 November 2008, 07:46:21
Elves = Mine!

Ta


Title: Re: Manthria Master Plan Discussion
Post by: Bard Judith on 11 November 2008, 08:38:34
WREN!   Wren wren wren wrennnnnnnnny wren!

(hurls herself enthusiastically at the slender elf and stops just in time, changing her bear hug to an equally-delighted but gentler arm around the shoulders)

Is this but a brief visit, or may we dare to hope that you will rest from your travels somewhat longer?  Your old rooms are ready - though dusty, I'll have the Chatelaine up there immediately to sweep up and put a fire on - and there's plenty of parchment and the elves are waiting!   Oh, but we have missed you....  (hugs her again)


Title: Re: Manthria Master Plan Discussion
Post by: Wren on 11 November 2008, 08:47:27
I've missed you lot too. I'll be around, but I am doing a masters so if I go awol periodically its because I have an essay due!

Have just read the post about Drogo (yeah I know its two years old, I was looking for my ballad on the forum). I am still in total shock about it. We were quite close at one point.


Title: Re: Manthria Master Plan Discussion
Post by: Artimidor Federkiel on 13 November 2008, 04:36:05
Yeah, I hope we'll hear more from Wren in general, even though she's busy with other things as well. I talked to her two days ago and she'd like to redo the Tethinrhim and update all the southern Sarvonian tribes eventually, and I guess that's definitely some project, eh? Looks like Wren's room will be occupied for a while ;) Woooo-hoooo!  :grin:


Title: Re: Manthria Master Plan Discussion
Post by: Leathan Shirithelle on 05 February 2009, 10:53:48
I would like to make an entry concerning anything i am allowed to.I know that i am inexperienced thus far, but i am very creative.plz reply. :)


Title: Re: Manthria Master Plan Discussion
Post by: Azhira Styralias on 08 October 2009, 04:03:20
Boo!

What is Azzy doing in the South? Oh No!

 :D

Ok...I am looking for a break from the North for a bit, visiting the South on vacation. Whoa. NO SNOW!!

Anyway, I'd like to do something a bit different and perhaps do a places entry in Manthria. Maybe something small? Not a huge town or anything...but if there is an unentried place that would be small to start with, I'll be happy to do it as I continue work on the Ghostlings. Don't get too excited. I am not here to stay!

I come with experience! Where's the snow?  ;)


Title: Re: Manthria Master Plan Discussion
Post by: Artimidor Federkiel on 08 October 2009, 04:06:31
You're always welcome of course down south as well, Azhira :) Have a look at the Manthrian map (http://www.santharia.com/maps/provinces/manthria_frame.htm) and see if you find an interesting spot you'd like to describe :)


Title: Re: Manthria Master Plan Discussion
Post by: Valan Nonesuch on 08 October 2009, 06:16:52
Azhira, the snow, I would wager, is in the mountains.


Title: Re: Manthria Master Plan Discussion
Post by: Drasil Razorfang on 18 June 2011, 03:53:17
Would it be possible to update the main Masterplan thread Art?

I was looking through it to see if I could find something that interested me for my next project and I noticed that many of the tasks listed on there have already been completed. 


Title: Re: Manthria Master Plan Discussion
Post by: Artimidor Federkiel on 20 June 2011, 02:18:15
Uhmm... Really? Are we talking about this thread (http://www.santharia.com/dev/index.php/topic,11455.0.html)? Because I don't actually see any of the tasks mentioned there actually completed!


Title: Re: Manthria Master Plan Discussion
Post by: Valan Nonesuch on 20 June 2011, 02:57:00
The Auturian Woods is on site, but doesn't have a mini-description perhaps?


Title: Re: Manthria Master Plan Discussion
Post by: Artimidor Federkiel on 20 June 2011, 02:58:48
An Auturian Woods entry is on the site, but Mira planned a major revision, because there's a lot missing in that entry: People section, Climate, Fauna, Overview...


Title: Re: Manthria Master Plan Discussion
Post by: Drasil Razorfang on 20 June 2011, 09:49:58
The Auturian Woods was the one that jumped out at me as well. 


Title: Re: Manthria Master Plan Discussion
Post by: Ankhi Doomhand on 02 February 2015, 14:09:05
I don't know if this thread is still being used, but if it is, can I reserve the Avennorian Diet, Occupations and Government sections? I want to get into some Tribe things, but a full tribe entry is way too big of a project, at least for now, so I figured, why not do some quick revisions, plus it'll help me get acquainted with Manthria and southern Sarvonia as a whole. :thumbup: :thumbup: :thumbup: :grin:


Title: Re: Manthria Master Plan Discussion
Post by: Artimidor Federkiel on 02 February 2015, 16:17:33
Well, you just used this thread, so I declare it officially opened... :P

And sure, that sounds like a good plan, Ankhi... er... Doomy ;) At the moment the sections of the Avennorian entry you speak of are still rather basic, so fleshing things out a bit more is definitely welcome. If it also helps you to get acquainted with all things taking place in Manthria, even better. Manthria is a region that is pretty well developed in general also thanks to the map we already have, so it's easier to develop something in this region, because there's a lot already there. And in order to do integrative work methinks this would be a great place to start. So yup, go for it! You have my blessing... :thumbup:


Title: Re: Manthria Master Plan Discussion
Post by: Ankhi Doomhand on 03 February 2015, 11:56:16
Wonderful! Looking forward to getting to know the region  :grin: :grin: :heart:... :evil: :devilish:


Title: Re: Manthria Master Plan Discussion
Post by: Ganinon on 11 February 2015, 13:34:15
In regards to the historical timelines (specifically the Avennorian/Darian),

What all would this entail? Does this rough timeline just need to be pieced together from events mentioned in other entries, and then add a few elaborations? Or is it more of a major project of writing the overarching history from scratch, while still making sure to keep previously mentioned events accurate?

Just really trying to wrap my head around how big of a task this would be.


Title: Re: Manthria Master Plan Discussion
Post by: Artimidor Federkiel on 12 February 2015, 03:54:07
Well, to be honest I don't know if working on the Darians would be a good idea. Bascially they are Talia's project and there's a Darian entry (http://www.santharia.com/dev/index.php/topic,15533.0.html) in progress which has been sitting there for more than a year now. I assume that Talia would want to deal with the Darians as a whole , so probably she also means to cover the historical facts. At any rate it's better to leave it to her or wait until she's back, but Talia is rarely seen these days. In short: Would suggest to look for something else to do which doesn't require her consent, Ganinon!


Title: Re: Manthria Master Plan Discussion
Post by: Ganinon on 12 February 2015, 05:44:08
Yeah, yesterday I started compiling all the information that is currently onsite, then did a quick search on dev boards and found her entry in progress. So maybe I'll just pass along what I gathered incase it helps her at all and begin on something else.   :)


Title: Re: Manthria Master Plan Discussion
Post by: Artimidor Federkiel on 13 February 2015, 15:47:00
Yep, sure, if you have something already you can add kit to the Darian entry thread, and it for sure will be helpful in the long run :)


Title: Re: Manthria Master Plan Discussion
Post by: Ganinon on 14 February 2015, 10:56:49
Alright I did some digging around for the Tethinrhim elves and this time found out Wren had a claim on it several years ago('08-'09ish). Does this claim still last or has Wren been in any contact lately? If the claim isn't still in effect I'd like to request to be able to work on at least part of the Tethinhrim entry. I'd likely work on it similar to the Avennorian revisions and revise the entry piece by piece, unless you'd recommend just keeping it all one big entry revision.

I *think*, based on reading it and your note on the masterplan, the revision involves expanding some of the information and ensuring that new information that was added in other entries is reflected within this one. For example, I know I've read that Truphulls are mentioned as a staple in the Tethinrhim diet, but this is not mentioned in the tribe entry. Correct me if I am wrong, or if there is more or less work required.

If Wren's claim stilll holds(or if I missed a more recent claim), I understand and don't mind at all. Or if you think I should just start off my return to Santharia with a less intensive task then let me know. My feelings won't get hurt if you think I'm biting off more than I can chew :P


Title: Re: Manthria Master Plan Discussion
Post by: Artimidor Federkiel on 14 February 2015, 16:55:52
Unlike Talia Wren hasn't been around for ages, so methinks working on these Tethinrhim sections would be perfectly fine, Ganinon :) So yup, go for it!  :thumbup: