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Title: Who has snow?
Post by: Grunok the Exile on 13 December 2007, 11:22:43
Hi everyone.  I am sitting next to a rather odiferous pine tree here, and perhaps predictably was thinking about Christmas.  We all come from such different parts of the world, and although Christmas is generally associated with snow, I have never had snow at Christmas - it is always summer in New Zealand in December!  For me is it hot, muggy (humid) weather, barbeques and singlets.  Who else is in summer, who is just cold, and who has snow?


Title: Re: Who has snow?
Post by: Twen Araerwen on 13 December 2007, 11:25:29
Snowing like crazy here Grun! I wish it was warm and like summertime, I would trade you in a heartbeat. Speaking of hearts  :heart:, missed you around here and hope you are staying about for awhile.  :hug:


Title: Re: Who has snow?
Post by: Altario Shialt-eck-Gorrin on 13 December 2007, 11:32:48
been lucky.. not a lot of snow yet this year... but very cold ... just came out of a two week -20C cold snap


Title: Re: Who has snow?
Post by: Drasil Razorfang on 13 December 2007, 12:10:29
Snow Day tommorow!

*Does his snow day dance*

I believe that answers your question ;)


Title: Re: Who has snow?
Post by: Artimidor Federkiel on 13 December 2007, 16:05:39
Twenty years ago Austrian winter meant snow, nowadays that is in no way guaranteed. We've had snow for a few days a few weeks earlier, but it lasted merely a weekend - I made some flat photos then and also from the outside, there you can see that there was actually snow :) - But since then it's gone again, nevertheless the weather forecasters say that its getting colder again and that this could mean snow during Christmas. But as I said: Don't count on it. Snow disappears very fast lately as it's getting very warm again.

I already told that story last year, but we usually have a Christmas Tree on the balcony, and last year the chocolate melted in December because it was so extremely warm... That was unthinkable twenty years ago - but as you can see from the Bali conference these days there's always a way to ignore reality. Just close your eyes and ears and you're fine, eh?  :buck:


Title: Re: Who has snow?
Post by: Ruil Mallister on 13 December 2007, 19:35:23
Word up, Arti.  I remember the six foot blizzard that swamped Washington D.C. almost eight years ago (wow).  Yet I don't remember much of a snow since then.  A few inches here or there.  Almost always a snow day.

Anywho!  I had snow last week, but it's since died down, melted, and all the salt I poured on the steps were probably put to use for only one night.  Oh well.  I pray for more snow!


Title: Re: Who has snow?
Post by: Irid alMenie on 13 December 2007, 20:02:09
Belgium is much like Austria. We used to have snow in winter, now not so much. I can't remember the last time we had a white christmas... It is very cold at the moment though :)


Title: Re: Who has snow?
Post by: Miraran Tehuriden on 14 December 2007, 01:25:05
I can confirm Irid's report.. its VERRY cold... *huddles closer to the hearth*


And on the matter of Global Warming; I'm still not buying it..


Title: Re: Who has snow?
Post by: Arceon Barrurbeleth on 14 December 2007, 03:11:11
Here in Croatia we usually have snow once a year, but rarely on Christmas,it seems that the snow here likes the end of January better. It's also pretty warm for this time of the year, the temperatures, here, on the coast reach below 0 only in the early mornings.


Title: Re: Who has snow?
Post by: Decipher Ziron on 14 December 2007, 04:09:25
pffft...No snow...just cold....But I dont mind it....warming yourself up is easier than cooling yourself down....


Title: Re: Who has snow?
Post by: Morcaanan on 14 December 2007, 05:04:46
Snow? *looks around at the Texas landscape* What the heck is snow?


Title: Re: Who has snow?
Post by: Bard Judith on 14 December 2007, 09:36:16
Here in Korea we just had our first snowfall last week - fluffy, powdery, coated all the trees - but was gone in a couple of days from most places.

It's cold and clear, sunny and crisp - really beautiful...

Alas, in three days I'll be in the even colder, depressingly gray and permanently overcast Canadian winter... (southern Ontario, though, not the worst place I could be) for the next two months.  Hope I don't succumb to S.A.D....

:)


Title: Re: Who has snow?
Post by: Jairo Koshi on 14 December 2007, 09:45:01
I live right next to the Rocky Mountains. Snow days for us is 2+ feet of snow, as long as it keeps snowing too fast for the plows to clear. Snow days for everyone else is some chilly weather and a few patches of black ice. *scoffs*

Although, if you've ever been to middle America after fresh sleet, the trees glaze over and look like they are made of transparent ice! It's really cool, but I've only seen the phenomena twice.

Yeah... anyways, the high temps are around 24 and the lows are around 0-, depending on what kind of day. Regardless, it's always sunny, which is such a delight when you get snow-blinded...

Personally, when I turn 18, I'm moving to the coast!



Title: Re: Who has snow?
Post by: Altario Shialt-eck-Gorrin on 14 December 2007, 12:34:42
It goes in cycles.. In the 80's almost every year was a "brown christmas"... but the 90's and the the 2K years have been more snow and long periods of cold for the most part... even with chinooks... we are naive in thinking that in 100+ years of temperature recording, that we can draw any serious conclusions on the state of the planet.... but that just MHO


Title: Re: Who has snow?
Post by: Miraran Tehuriden on 14 December 2007, 16:39:22
Also, we're just making the Human Egocentric Mistake again, claiming thet the "normal climate" is the one that suits us best. But geologically speaking we're still barely recovering from the last ice age, and temperatures ought to be rising untill i'm living in a subtropical swamp again, à la prehistoric times.


Title: Re: Who has snow?
Post by: Artimidor Federkiel on 14 December 2007, 16:54:13
So you say as we're egocentric that mankind doesn't necessarily need to exist. We just think we're the most important being on Earth, which is a case of existential hubris. So if mankind is possibly extinguished due to its own fault then that's just a valid case of Darwinistic selection and therefore nothing that sets the universe out of balance, eh? ;)


Title: Re: Who has snow?
Post by: Irid alMenie on 14 December 2007, 17:38:54
Well of course :lol:


Title: Re: Who has snow?
Post by: Miraran Tehuriden on 14 December 2007, 20:11:39
*nods* It's not the world's fault we evolved in such a way that we can't breath water, or fly, or survive without adapting our environment to our needs. Which once again proves even Mother Nature has her off-days when creating things..


Title: Re: Who has snow?
Post by: Artimidor Federkiel on 14 December 2007, 20:50:36
The problem of course with this weird species of the "human" is that - unlike other species - it might not only manage to extinguish itself and a few others, but also pretty much everything else on the planet in its wake. You might call that the "peak of evolution" then if you like...


Title: Re: Who has snow?
Post by: Niccoli on 14 December 2007, 21:06:50
I've got snow. It's just covered up the ice nicely enough that I can walk down slight inclines and almost break my elbow and my neck. Snow is great!


Title: Re: Who has snow?
Post by: Fox on 14 December 2007, 23:06:34
No snow here, but I live in South Cal. Cold here is 60 degrees F. (15.5 C) Even when I lived up north, snow was a rare occurrence.


Title: Re: Who has snow?
Post by: Miraran Tehuriden on 14 December 2007, 23:11:23
No Art, the Peak of Evolution is that one species we cannot kill, except perhaps if we blast the whole planet into oblivion; Cockroaches


Title: Re: Who has snow?
Post by: Morcaanan on 15 December 2007, 00:48:29
I don't hold to Darwinism, but if I did I would add one thing to Mira's assertion: Texas State Birds. *swats a mosquito*


Title: Re: Who has snow?
Post by: Jairo Koshi on 15 December 2007, 09:27:27
Actually I heard somewhere that cockroaches are on the decline, and scientists can't figure out why...


Title: Re: Who has snow?
Post by: Altario Shialt-eck-Gorrin on 15 December 2007, 10:55:20
There have been countless life ending catastrophies in the history oif our little world..... Man is just the newest catastrophe

Like Mira said, we take a tiny sliver out of geographical time and call it "normal" because it suits our needs.  eh, Al Gore probably invented the Climate when he was busy putting together the Internet for us.....


Title: Re: Who has snow?
Post by: xerampelinae deicida on 15 December 2007, 18:20:47
Snow in Iowa. more then in recent years we've had years with more thou a lot more.

last year it was fall weather till January then we got winter. Midwest weather is always fickle.

Climate alarmists go back and forth from global cooling to global warming sometime in the feature they will switch back to global cooling again. Probably switching a few times before the century is thru I just hope Al gore lives long enough to warn us of the impending global cooling crisis, so I can see the reaction when someone asks him about his change in position :)

as for global warming the big bright furnace in the sky causes it.

her is a poem about climate change.


We’re Friends of the Pleistocene; damn little ice we’ve seen;

Listen and we’ll tell you why:

The glaciers retreated, the lakes are depleted,

The temperature’s risen too high.

 

We’ve till and we’ve gravel, our problems unravel,

When stones oriented we see.

We’ve eskers and kames and various names

To apply to the glacial debris.

 

We’ve loess and we’ve soils which add to our toils,

We’ve lakes and we’ve peat bogs to bore.

With Quercus and Fagus and Pinus to plague us,

The pollen we cannot ignore.

 

So we’re Friends of the Pleistocene, where geology’s nice and clean.

Granites and faults we decry.

Instead of petrology, on carbon chronology

And climatic change we rely.


Title: Re: Who has snow?
Post by: Hylphán on 17 December 2007, 09:29:19
Sometimes I yearn for the snow filled days of my youth,(with their -40 to -60 deg.F temps in Northern Minnesota) but then think of the aches and pains of the arthritis and am glad for the hi temps of 88 and lows of 77.  Much as I love the snow and cold, the tropics are more suitable now for my poor old bones...
I think I will go soak knees and ankles now in the 82 deg. ocean water...


Title: Re: Who has snow?
Post by: Miraran Tehuriden on 24 December 2007, 22:15:34
Oh for the Small Ice Age, when the winters were harsh, and gardeners could stay at home for at least a month and a half each year ;)


Title: Re: Who has snow?
Post by: Faugar on 25 December 2007, 02:00:09
Hey there folks! I finally have some serious time off of work, so decided to visit te forums once again. The place feels a bit deserted to me, what's up?
On topic- no snow in Holland, as usual. I've been just over the border with Germany, and sure, THEY got snow. It's just foggy and cold here though.
For those of us who have it, and wish they didn't, those who don't and wish they had, and those who enjoy (not) having it, my best wishes for the coming days, I hope all of you have some time off, and can spend it with your relatives/friends!



Title: Re: Who has snow?
Post by: Zylythe on 25 December 2007, 06:46:18
snow (laughs), San Fransisco is just cold.