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Title: Pest Pillar of Nyermersys
Post by: Viresse on 06 February 2003, 21:45:00

Pest Pillar of Nyermersys

The Pest Pillar of Nyermersys was erected just after the Great Plague of Nyermersys to represent the terrible event that may very well have been lost in history had it not been for the grotesque pillar. Many people it also to be a kind of Shrine to Queprur, Goddess of the Dead and Patron of Nyermersys. The pillar is located in the Main plaza of Nyermersys, in the Neyerman province of Santharia.

Description:
The pillar is made of a beautiful grey-hued stone, perhaps granite or marble, and holds amazing detail as well as exquisite smoothness. The Pillar stands well over three peds. The shapes of rat and mouse corpses piled upon one another is the main structure of the pillar. To further represent this, the pillar is wider at the base ( 1.5 peds in diameter) than the top ( .5 peds). At the base of the tower is a wide, smooth platform which has the following statement of the Great Plague written in Tharian, Styrash and Thergerim.

In 1046 c.c. Queprur took 4500 lives by the Plague of Thevelin. Only her Clerics came and saved those ailing when others turned away. Her touch taught us and in return we Honor her.


A fourth etching is rutted around the base, it is the translation of the Statement in Browniin, not included in the original design. At the pinnacle of the tower is a small platform upon which is a cloaked rat with a Scythe. Many believe that this tower was where the representation of Queprur as a Rat came from, though most believe that the Grave House and the Pest Pillar were erected at the same time and therefore with the same thought in mind.

Corpses of rats and other small animals litter the base of the Pillar, as do boquets of flowers and letters to the dead. While few actually visit the pillar like they do the temple, it seems as if people do stop by and look upon it and leaving tokens of faith there.

Location:
The pest pillar of Nyermersys is located in the Main plaza of the Cityin the province of Nyermeran, in Santharia. It borders northern Sarvonia.

Mythology:
As Nyermersys is a mostly human town in which many believe that Queprur visits regularly, the thoughts and images of Queprur run rampant in the city. Not in the way of a Spirit like many Elves think of the Silent Goddess, but as a monstrosity that is aloof and cold, even calculating. The image of the Queen as a Rat did indeed start here in Nyermersys, with the Plague.

"It is said that it were the rats that brought the Black Death through the sewers to Nyermersys and thus the image of Queprur in rat-form developed in the heads of the artists of this town. "

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Many locals claim that Queprur visits the Pillar regularly. Those that live in homes facing the pillar claim that a beautiful, pale Woman in a dark cloak regularly visits the area at late hours, pausing at the pillar for a short time then moving on. They claim that in the morning that all that was left at the base of the pillar had disappeared.

An elderly local ( "Old Red" was what he called himself ) laid out a particular story:

"Every great while, usually the years of bad Harvests, thousands of rats will go to the pillar a night of the Full moon.

They will scramble for hours at its base, never touching it. Thet climb around and among one another as if a great pilgrimage of ALL the rats of Sorren had gathered to the plaza for a grand homecoming. And right before the sun rises all the rats will begin climbing on top of one another, as if trying to recreate the pillar itself! They waver and lean for the longest time, and just before they are touched by the first rays of the sun, all the Rats seem to turn into the form of a single living creature, taking on the body of a Woman.

And the Light hits them... and they vanish... It is said that rats that don't leave before the first rays of sun during the "Night of Returning" freeze on the pillar and become part of the monument. Sometimes inhabitants who look at the column regularly may discover a rat being part of the composition they haven't never seen before... Legend or reality? Noone knows..."

Nobody knows when the rats return to worship their Goddess, but whenever people hear strange noises at night, they are superstituous and stay inside, fearing that seeing the rats might bring back the plague. Also it is rumoured that the sudden disappearance of a night watchman is related to this strange returning of the rats.


History:

603 b.S.
The Pest Pillar of Thevelin ( Later Nyermersys) is erected. While it seems to apall the visitors and the tasteful, the townspeople find it eerily suiting.

501 b.S.
Thanks to the strong armies defending the city, Thevelin is the last city to fall when Epheronia falls. The defenses keep the pillar safe within city walls.

500 b.S. Thevelin is Renamed to Nyermersys. The city name on the pillar is not changed, to represent the Past.

482 b.S.
The Founding of Tharnia causes Nyermersys is second to Voldar in the largest city in the new kingdom. While many of the citizens from further south are disgusted by the Pillar, the Quepruran clerics and the families of those that survived the Plague keep it safe.

ca.290 b.S.
Nyermersys falls to orcs and Barbarian tribes. While few orcs can read the inscriptions on the pillar, they seem to respect it and do not destroy it. The barbarians fear and respect it.

230 a.S.
The first time it is noticed that the translation of the text into Browniin is etched into the face. The small size, low height and crude skill of the writing prove that it was indeed a brownie who wrote it, but whom it was is impossible to tell.



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Edited by: Artimidor Federkiel at: 4/5/03 2:17:45 pm


Title: Re: Pest Pillar of Nyermersys
Post by: Ta`lia of the Seven Jewels on 07 February 2003, 03:01:00
How would it look like?

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Title: Re: Pest Pillar of Nyermersys
Post by: Viresse on 07 February 2003, 23:26:00
Hm. Well, Like we had spoke in the Plague entry; a tall pillar much like the European ones, but with images of rats and bugs and dead folk in a bas-relief kind of dealey. Give me about an hour and I'll try to crank out a little piccy. Nothing fancy; just to express my idea.


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Title: Re: Pest Pillar of Nyermersys
Post by: Ta`lia of the Seven Jewels on 08 February 2003, 10:47:00
Viresse, admit it, your day has 48 hours!

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Title: Re: Pest Pillar of Nyermersys
Post by: Viresse on 08 February 2003, 20:39:00
It's not that!
It's that this Fussy copm won't connect to my web server and All day I had school!
Lemme try it now.

There we go.


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Edited by: Viresse  at: 2/8/03 2:42:52 am


Title: Re: Pest Pillar of Nyermersys
Post by: Viresse on 13 February 2003, 23:47:00
That place is busted. Crap.
Uhm. So.
I'll write it up then and see how y'all like it.


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Title: Re: Pest Pillar of Nyermersys
Post by: Gararion on 14 February 2003, 01:21:00
I will be keeping an eye on this thread Vir.  It will add more detail to my story :)  



Title: Re: Pest Pillar of Nyermersys
Post by: Viresse on 14 February 2003, 23:57:00
Cool. I'll try and get to work on it. Probably m0nday as I have layout HW and this Friday is VALENTINE'S DAY!

*dumps frodo by the wayside for the weekend to snuggle with her Rudy!*


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Title: Re: Pest Pillar of Nyermersys
Post by: Artimidor Federkiel on 23 February 2003, 13:00:00
The pic is still not working, Viresse, but you could just send it over there (even if it's not finished), then I can host it on our Resources webspace:)  


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Title: Re: Pest Pillar of Nyermersys
Post by: Viresse on 25 February 2003, 23:07:00
Uhm.
Okay.
Lemme go snag it and I'll send it to ya.
Even if it's not done.
Maybe someone like Elrelen, quellion or Faugie kin crank out somethin' nicE?


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Title: Re: Pest Pillar of Nyermersys
Post by: Artimidor Federkiel on 26 February 2003, 15:07:00
Ok, I've just substituted the broken link with a working one (see above).

In this sketch definitely your affinity to comical drawing is very obvious, Viresse. The idea of the composition is cool (rat on rat, close together), but it would need an artist who can express sinister emotions and death and pain in the column (which I think should be black as hell), and I really guess this would be a Faugar thingy. The rat on top looks much too funny, so this doesn't go too well with disease, death and destruction. I think the picture should also give the impression that the rats are crawling over each other like in a horror movie, so I think the column could look like a heap of rats at the bottom (over some corpses perhaps), then become thinner the higher it gets. The top could also represent a bone hand, reaching out or something. I guess there are really horrible possibilities with this idea.

Faugar seems a bit stressed at the moment, but I'll write him abut the pic, maybe this is something he can imagine to do...


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Edited by: Artimidor Federkiel at: 2/25/03 9:18:12 pm


Title: Re: Pest Pillar of Nyermersys
Post by: Faugar on 26 February 2003, 16:49:00
:lol  aww.. you thought of me when it's about death and horror :lol
but yeah, this sounds strangely appealing to make :evil
This pillar - is it supposed to be carved out of wood/stone/metal or anything? sorry for my ignorance.. :o

I think if I can pull myself together tomorrow, I could come up with something, and maybe even do this Dala's portrait too.. we'll see. Thanks for thinking of me btw!


       
     
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Title: Re: Pest Pillar of Nyermersys
Post by: Artimidor Federkiel on 26 February 2003, 17:14:00
I thought of some sort of black stone (marble?), as Nyermersys is the dark city and having a sinsister column in the center makes it very cool for the City of Queprur, Goddess of Death and Rats - oh, and we've made this town your Santharian home as well in your People entry, Faugar, so you practically only need to look out of the window and draw it! :D

Oh, and I think day and night about our dear artists, including you of course, Faugar!! But mostly these thoughts consist of having remorses about giving you too much work... :lol  


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Title: Re: Pest Pillar of Nyermersys
Post by: Viresse on 26 February 2003, 18:30:00
ya. I'm an Animator. I can't get around that. But I think that my analog ( as opposed to digital!) works are increasing rapidly, though I am in no way a fine artist of any particular caliber.

As long as that column makes sense. Your ideas are fantastic, Arti. Beeg thumbs up.
And Faugie, don't lie. Even if you like painting tha monsters, you're just a big softie and I know it.
*huggles*


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Title: Re: Pest Pillar of Nyermersys
Post by: Faugar on 26 February 2003, 20:30:00
:rollin  


       
     
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Title: Re: Pest Pillar of Nyermersys
Post by: Viresse on 04 March 2003, 00:24:00
Wrote the entry.
Perhaps I should write it in the cosmology section so it has better religious detail.  


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Title: Re: Pest Pillar of Nyermersys
Post by: Artimidor Federkiel on 04 March 2003, 15:13:00
Thanks for the entry, Viresse. Describing the column without having the picture on which Faugar probably has already started of course is a bit difficult.

Some comments:
- Description: "Only her Clerics saved those that could be when all others turned away or could." - Uhmmm... Don't understand that sentence... Can you perhaps rephrase that?

Would also add some religious details explaining the relation between Queprur and the rats, why Queprur is the rat-queen - I guess this is very well described at the Queprur entry and would fit in here as well.

- Coat of Arms: Do you really think that it is essential for the Column to have the Coat of Arms of Nyermersys description added? Nope, don't think so. It's not directly related.  Same with People, Climate etc.

- Mythology: How about adding to this story for example: Nobody knows when the rats return to worship their Goddess, but whenever people hear strange noises at night, they are superstituous and stay inside, fearing that seeing the rats might bring back the plague. Also it is rumoured that the sudden disappearance of a (night-)watchman (right word?) is related to this strange returning of the rats. Oh, and final idea: It is said that rats which don't leave before the first rays of sun during the "Night of Returning" freeze on the pillar and become part of the monument. Sometimes inhabitants who look at the column regularly may discover a rat being part of the composition they haven't never seen before... Legend or reality? Noone knows...

- History: How time was kept before Santhros - with the Cournanian Calender!


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Edited by: Artimidor Federkiel at: 3/3/03 9:17:53 pm


Title: Re: Pest Pillar of Nyermersys
Post by: Viresse on 04 March 2003, 18:23:00
Okeyday.
Will work on it.
You're a slavedriver!
:p  


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Title: Re: Pest Pillar of Nyermersys
Post by: Rayne (Alýr) on 04 March 2003, 19:42:00
It's a cute picture! ::giggles::

Am I the only one suddenly reminded of Der Mäuseturm? o.o;;



Title: Re: Pest Pillar of Nyermersys
Post by: Ta`lia of the Seven Jewels on 05 March 2003, 09:41:00
Cute pic, especially the mouse on the top with the sickle(?) in its paws....
Mäuseturm? Yes, but it was/is a real building

Btw, I like Arts idea of an additional mouse now and then and the  people looking for it!

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Title: Re: Pest Pillar of Nyermersys
Post by: Viresse on 05 March 2003, 12:17:00
I added that in, Talia.
As for the tower, thanks! I find it very adorable.
Art finds it too adorable to be on the site so he asked Faugie to paint one up.


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Title: Re: Pest Pillar of Nyermersys
Post by: Artimidor Federkiel on 05 March 2003, 15:42:00
*haha* Well, especially the rat on the top is sooooooo cute - it would be afraid in such a horrible Death-town as Nyermersys;)  

P.S. As far as I can see some additional Queprur details are still missing, quote from Queprur entry:

"In contradiction to pictures drawn by elves where Queprur in general is a figure which is not depicted in corporal form, human artists very often emphasize the dark side of Queprur when depicting the Goddess. Not only do they give her a face, but they also show the destructive and fearful part, the horror of her very being and the horror she brings upon the world. One such famous image is the picture of the Goddess in rat-form in the Queprur sancturay west of Nyermersys at the Gravehouse of the Plague. The Gravehouse represents a mass grave of all those who died during the Year of the Great Plague in Nyermersys in the fateful year 602 b.S. It is said that it were the rats that brought the Black Death through the sewers to Nyermersys and thus the image of Queprur in rat-form developed in the heads of the artists of this town. Today the rat-picture in the Gravehouse drawn more than thousand years ago still exists, and everytime the pale colors are re-newed at the painting it seems as if the Goddess wants to give a new warning to remember what could happen if she'd decide to exert her enormous powers again..."

Some things here could be extracted to explain the relation between Queprur and rats a bit better;)  


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Edited by: Artimidor Federkiel at: 3/4/03 9:49:18 pm


Title: Re: Pest Pillar of Nyermersys
Post by: Viresse on 05 March 2003, 22:35:00
Okay!
Thanks...
I'll rummage through that and slap up what fits; probably add a few notes myself.


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Title: Re: Pest Pillar of Nyermersys
Post by: Artimidor Federkiel on 07 March 2003, 15:00:00
To Viresse: Yeah, cool. If the changes are possible before this week's update (guess it's not much anymore), then please try adjust it, so that it can be included already in this week's update:)

Now to the picture... Faugar sent me a pencil drawing of the column, see below:



I guess it turned out really great, I knew you'd be the right person for that, and the pic definitely convinces me of that - hope you'll color it, Faugar:D

BTW: In the meantime Viresse described the column a bit and proposed a platform on the ground, which has a statement written on it in various languages on it (Tharian, Thergerim, Styrásh etc.) Hmmm... I guess etching something into the platform (perhaps make it a bit higher?) shouldn't be that much of a problem. Though I'd say that the different texts should be placed on the other possible sides, so that you wouldn't have to put up the Thergerim or Styrásh texts, which we don't know right now:b  The description would need a bit of a rewrite then - or the drawing could be altered a bit in this direction, don't know how difficult that is.

P.S. Faugar also made a new character portrait for himself, now more up to date, see his postings;)  We'll add the new portrait to his entry. Hmm... Maybe we can use the old Faugar pic for another character then?


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Title: Re: Pest Pillar of Nyermersys
Post by: Faugar on 07 March 2003, 15:32:00
about the text - yeah, I think it's possible - I'd need it all written/drawn though - I hope someone can do it for me? If I'd color it, digitally, enlarging the base shoudnt be a problem.
As for my old portrait - yeah, it can be recycled :lol


       
     
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Title: Re: Pest Pillar of Nyermersys
Post by: Artimidor Federkiel on 07 March 2003, 15:41:00
Well, the text would be (slightly corrected version):

"In 1046 CC Queprur took 4500 lives by the Plague of Thevelin. Only Her clerics came and saved those ailing when others turned away. Her touch taught us and in return we honor Her."


I guess your paint program should be capable of adding text (plus effects like bevel & embossed) and making the text quite small so that it fits, or? Or you can leave the space and I'll try to paste it in with Photoshop later, should be no big problem;)  


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Title: Re: Pest Pillar of Nyermersys
Post by: Viresse on 08 March 2003, 00:42:00
No, we don't need to raise the pedastal, I did want it low.
I really dig this pic, Faugar.
If he doesn't want to,and if you allow it, It can go as is.
I LOVE IT!

And Faugar. That new pic looks DEAD on. Awesome.


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Edited by: Viresse  at: 3/7/03 6:43:20 am


Title: Re: Pest Pillar of Nyermersys
Post by: Faugar on 08 March 2003, 03:30:00
thanks :)

what do you mean about the new pic looking dead on tho?


       
     
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Title: Re: Pest Pillar of Nyermersys
Post by: Viresse on 08 March 2003, 20:07:00
It really looks like you. At least from what I know. It's good and I like it.


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Title: I see
Post by: Faugar on 09 March 2003, 06:49:00
hehe, thanks :)  



Title: Re: I see
Post by: Artimidor Federkiel on 18 March 2003, 16:54:00
*knock* *knock*

How are the final revisions here, Viresse?


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Title: Re: I see
Post by: Viresse on 18 March 2003, 22:36:00
Sorry, busy...
I'll take the snippet you gave and poke that into the entry; hopefully tonight!


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Title: Re: I see
Post by: Artimidor Federkiel on 25 March 2003, 14:36:00
*points with finger to entry like mommy does when telling the baby to eat all the soup*

Viresse! Finish please! Only a few lousy things left to do... ;)  


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Edited by: Artimidor Federkiel at: 3/24/03 9:22:48 pm


Title: Re: I see
Post by: Viresse on 25 March 2003, 17:06:00
*nods ruefully and sets to work*


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Title: Re: I see
Post by: Viresse on 25 March 2003, 17:17:00
Dropped in some more text.
Maybe a Uri check, please?


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Title: Re: I see
Post by: Artimidor Federkiel on 26 March 2003, 14:06:00
Is there an exact definition of an Uri check BTW?

I checked it already in detail before you did your final changes, Viresse, so I guess there's nothing major wrong with it, and all the small things which are still a bit unclear will be adjusted when I put it up (and a might add a line or two here and there).


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Edited by: Artimidor Federkiel at: 3/25/03 8:09:29 pm


Title: Re: I see
Post by: Viresse on 26 March 2003, 15:04:00
A uri check is basically copying the Text, pasting it into a reply and then pointing and adressing the mistakes EXACTLY where they occur; usually using a Bold face or a different color.

Fish are really kewl. Cool I like when they hop out of their tanks and walk around on the floor. Uhm, maybe some eels, but fish don't do that. They have rad luhnges Uhm, they have gills, and that word was spelled LUNGS and smell like roses. Ha. No they don't. I want more fish!


And that's pretty much a Uri check.


And what do you plan on changing? If I knew what I was doing wrong It'd happen less... *sniffles*


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Edited by: Viresse  at: 3/25/03 9:05:03 pm


Title: Re: I see
Post by: Artimidor Federkiel on 27 March 2003, 16:55:00
*hihi* Cool example. Yeah, I think an Uri check might be a good idea. I'll do the next Places entry check using the Uri system;)

BTW: At a final version when I put things up, I usually don't write completely new things, just rephrase a few sentences or add a detail here and there which pops into my mind at the time when I read it one final time. I try to mention major things always when I comment, and an Uri check will make things even easier for both sides I think;)


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Title: Re: I see
Post by: Viresse on 27 March 2003, 19:07:00
it defenitely works at the Char board. Sometimes after reading such a long CD you forget the weird stuff at the beginning and only comment on the last stuff- letting a weird amount of unclear or wrong info slip through.

Doing a Urie check can correct spelling and grammar, as well as state weird or unclear ideas RIGHT where they happen. It saves time and people know what EXACTLY you're talking about.


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