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Title: Kormor Toltrumerim
Post by: Victhorin on 11 May 2004, 11:00:00
The Legend of Kormor Toltrumerim

Overview
Before the War of the Chosen there was a great mine under the Zharkanions called Kormor Toltrumerim, but when Menemronn crushed the Toltrumerim in their caves the clan was wiped out along with their mines.
But among the Nybelmargerim the legend also says that the greatest of all Toltrumerim mines still remains unharmed and unpopulated under the mountains and when its rediscovered the dwarves will once again be one of the greatest power of Nybelmar. On AleronsZeRotrumEol or the Runes of the Eastern Mountain the history of the Deep Dwarves are told.


Pre-history
Since the beginning the Deep Dwarves lived beneath Nybelmar deep under the Zharkanions.
Other dwarves came to Nybelmar in the Age of Silence. By then they were travelling south in great numbers, fleeing from a evil in the north. Four brothers lead them on their travel. Their names were Keriloin, Mortiloin, Heriloin and Gakeloin, all great leaders and warriors.

Fleeing great enemy
Towards south they walked
Many dwarves

Vers One

When reaching the northern parts of the Zharkanions they met the Deep Dwarves. This was when the trouble started. After a dispute a fight broke out among the brothers about what to do next. Keriloin and Heriloin wanted to create a new great kingdom high up in the mountains were no one could touch them while Mortiloin and Gakeloin wanted to join the dwarves deep in the mountain. In the end the whole group of dwarves were split up by the dispute. They started fighting dwarf against dwarf and the fight didn’t end until two of the brothers died fighting each other.

Welcomed with open arms
Brother of the past
Not every one agreed

Vers Two

Fighting broke out
Angry dwarves fell dead
Children was scared

Vers Three

Mortiloin, the older of the two, and Keriloin, the younger, decided to split up the group and search for fortune on separate ways. As Mortiloin and his friends were welcomed with open arms by the Deep Dwarves, Keriloin took the rest and started walking southwest. The climbed the mountain until they found three high mountains.

Four brother became two
Keriloin walked on the mountain
Mortiloil walked under the mountain

Vers Four

The dwarves that lived under the mountains called themselves Toltrumerim, or Under-Rock Dwarves but in the legends of the other races they became known as the Deep Dwarves. They had found that the Zharkanoins was rich of gold and silver and the stone easy to cut. In the deepest mined they also found mithril and the mine began to flourish. Hall by hall and tunnel by tunnel the system was extended, with much help from the newcomers. More dwarves came from the north and the numbers of both groups grew.
Mortiloin was appointed Garkavon of the Deep Dwarves. He was considered a brave and smart leader by both the Toltrumerim and the newcomers. When the Gornegron died, Mortiloin was chosen to be the next Gornegron.
Keriloin and his Kiingerim, the High Dwarves, created the great dwarven kingdom he dreamt of in a valley they called Heriloin-valley after the dead brother. There, they found many gems and precious stones.

Keriloin liked the stone so black
Motliloin liked the gems glittering
The group of dwarves were split up

Vers Five

Under the roots of the mountain the Deep Dwarves became richer by the day and started to build colonies in both north and south. Just before his death Mortiloin named the mine Kormor Toltrumerim, The Great Mine of the Deep Dwarves. The mine was the centre of the cave system.

A generation after his death the tribe had a town in the northeast called Tyr Bruk and a mine in the south called Mor MithtenThuuth. The colonies were connected with giant tunnels that stretched under ground stral after stral. On the way taverns and inns were built so that one could travel in relative comfort. Enormous light shafts and thousands of torches lit up the tunnel just so much as the dwarves like it.
At Tyr Bruk a giant gap inside the first hall worked as protection and the rest of the town could only be reached by a bridge from which the town got its name.
The town was used as trading place with other races and it was the only known place where one could meet Deep Dwarves. The trading however was conducted on the outside of the mountain.

Tunnels went on forever
Air, food and water fresh
All the way from mine to town

Vers Seven

The Gornegron of Kormor Toltrumerim was more powerful than most Gornegrons of his era. He ruled the underground realm like a human king and took little advice from his Gorkavons. Despite this, the Gornegrons were usually well-liked by the Toltrumerim and no revolt ever took place.

The Gorkavons in their turn ruled the colonies like little kings, or human dukes. Because of the long distances involved, the colonies were hard to monitor for the Gornegron. Senders were used to communicate with the other mines, but the local Gorkavon's desires were generally in effect for each colony.

On a throne he sat
Ruled with wisdom
A mighty dwarf the Gorgnegron was

Vers Ten

Towns and mines of the Toltrumerim before the War of the Chosen:

Kormor Toltrumerim (Great Mine of the Deep Dwarves).
This was said to be the greatest mining town in the whole of Caelereth. Above the huge mines and forges, gigantic halls were carved out of the living rock. The Hall of Motilolin , one of these stunning artificial caverns, is described in the AleronsZeRotrumEol like this:

Stack one hundred Toltrumerim
One on the shoulders of the next
They still would not reach the roof

Vers Eight

The rest of Kormor Toltrumerim was just as impressive. The extent of the mine was unmatched, and the tunnels went deeper and longer than any other tunnels had gone before. The stone carvings were not as impressive as the ones in the Kiingerim cities, but no human or elf could ever dream of matching such craftsmanship.

Mor Mithuth (Mine of Iron-Fire)
The Mor MithtenThuuth was a mine rich with iron ore, and possessed the grandest forges in the realm. From Mor MithtenThuuth ore and iron bars and even fine metal art came all day long. The mine was only occupied by the miners and no military were present as there was only one way out - through the tunnels to Kormor Toltrumerim.

All day the Havach work
Taking iron and ore from mine
To the Kormor Toltrumerim.

Vers Nine

Tyr Bruk (Town of the Bridge)
This town was the contact to the outer world for the Deep Dwarves and the only settlement known to other races. For all that humans knew, the Deep Dwarves were just a few dwarves living in the northern parts of the Zharkanions. One would think that they might have estimated more accurately, with all the merchandise coming out of the mountain.

The dwarves had a market set up about 70 strals southwest of where Fullwannooth now lies. That is also close to RotrumEol, the place of runes. The opening to the town, however, was always kept as a secret. To meet with Toltrumerim the trader stopped at a certain place and waited until someone from the town came out to meet him. Humans assumed, correctly, that the dwarves had scouts who monitored the place day and night.
There was a great bridge inside the mountains and it was guarded day and night. At Tyr Bruk the military presence was at its greatest strength, as this was the main way in and out of the realm.

In Tyr Bruk the bridge was long
Other races could not enter
Traders met inside

Vers Six


Mor Dishuniolin (Incomplete Mine)
This mine was named after the War of the Chosen. The final verse, given below, does not seem to have been written by the same person who wrote the first nine. The runes are badly carved and only the magic protecting the whole stone has kept them in good condition. The tenth verse speaks of a newly-built mine that were very rich with gems and gold, but also claims that it was destroyed before it was finished. The dwarf who carved the last verse could very well have been from that mine.The mine is said to have been located in the northwest part of the mountains.

A new beginning
Richer than all other mines
Destroyed by the dark, evil power

Vers Eleven

Towns of the Kiingerim before the War of the Chosen:
As told by the old tales of the Kiingerim


The old Kiingerim tales and myths tell us about an underground kingdom that was a friend of the tribe. They speak of great tunnels and ramps that lead up to the cities. Therefore there is reason to believe that the two tribes traded with each other.

Kerrintyr - (Highest Town)
This was the capitol of the Kiingerim. Located high up in the mountains, south of Kormor Toltrumerim, the city covered three mountaintops and the vallley between them. All three moutains were filled with halls and tunnels and in the three mountaintops rooms for the sharp-eyed scouts were cut out.

The three mountains were called Granoli, Ovikoli and Bonasolin after their first Garkavons, and Garkavons were in command of each one from the creation until the end.

They were, as well as the other colonies, run like provinces.
The Gornegron sat on his throne in RotrumOvikoli - Mount Ovikoli - and oversaw the whole realm. He had more direct power over the realm than the Gornegron of the Deep Dwarves.
The stone of Mount Ovikoli were dark grey and the tunnels would have been very dark if not for the light shafts that were set through their roofs.

Kiindenityr (High-Holy-Town)
The northern city of the Kiingerim was also the seat of the Denirim. The Kiingerim had only one Denirim for all of its dwarves, and he or she { } had subpriests called Denierons. There were about twenty-five of them, ten for the big towns and five for Mor/Tyr Faerath.

The stone of Denirotrum - The Holy Mountain  - were light grey, sometimes almost white. The lighting of the city was therefore not needed in the same degree as in Kerrintyr.

Mor/Tyr Faerath (In Thergerim; Mine/Town of Hiding and in Santerran; Tower of Iron)
This was the smallest settlement of the Kiingerim and the last to be built. That was lucky for them, as it seems as they were the only town to be overseen by the hordes of the Burning Mountains. Whether the city had a connection to Kormor Toltrumerim is debatable - the Traders Council is not saying anything about it. The most common guess is that there was a connection to the tunnels but not to the mine. The tunnels would serve as an escape if the city were taken by force. If a connection to the mine currently existed, the Council would be foolish not to use it anymore.

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Edited by: Artimidor Federkiel at: 7/18/04 9:08


Title: Re: Kormor Toltrumerim
Post by: Victhorin on 11 May 2004, 11:01:00
These dwarves (the deep dwarves) will be more traditionally "dwarven" than the Kiingerim.

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Title: Re: Kormor Toltrumerim
Post by: Smith in Exile on 12 May 2004, 10:52:00
"Menemronn" not "Menemoron" :)  



Title: Re: Kormor Toltrumerim
Post by: Victhorin on 12 May 2004, 15:22:00
I'm sorry. I guess I thought of him as a MeneMORON and not as a Menemronn.;)  

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Title: Re: Kormor Toltrumerim
Post by: Smith in Exile on 12 May 2004, 17:20:00
:lol  



Title: Re: Kormor Toltrumerim
Post by: Artimidor Federkiel on 15 May 2004, 13:14:00
Idea and rough concept you have so far looks good from my point of view, Victhorin, hope you plan to elaborate in more detail here... Though the "really" in the sentence "Before the War of the Chosen there really was a mine" doesn't really fit - at least it is a legendary place of which your probably only know through stories, fairy-tales etc. I'd also perhaps suggest to quote from such stories and legends for the more detailed descriptions to get a feeling for the legendary character. Maybe there is a main legend/tome which contains most information on this place, and other stories may derive from it, so that it all still fits together, which could be quoted for further details (which of course might be all invented, but it all adds to the picture).


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Title: Re: Kormor Toltrumerim
Post by: Victhorin on 16 May 2004, 04:50:00
More detail? Do I need that?...No, I'm just kidding. Ofcourse I'll write more details. I have just begun working on this.

I see your point. The "really" is going away.

A yes, I'm working on a main story called "AleronsZeRotrumEol or The Runes of the Eastern Mountain". That is currently a sepperate entry, but I don't know yet.

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Edited by: Victhorin at: 5/15/04 12:51


Title: Re: Kormor Toltrumerim
Post by: Victhorin on 18 May 2004, 14:18:00
Reworked the entry to integrate the "runes"-part.

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Title: Re: Kormor Toltrumerim
Post by: Ta`lia of the Seven Jewels on 19 May 2004, 14:38:00
Have had just a quick look only, Victhorin, but it looks good!

What I stumbled over was this:

Quote:
When reaching the Zharkanions after much trouble a dispute broke out among the brothers about what to do next. Keriloin and Heriloin wanted to create a great kingdom high up in the mountains were no one could touch them.


I don't know, what you had in mind, if "high mountains" means just, deep in the mountains (as distance on the surface) or in a region high up in the mountains, but still under the earth.
As it is, you can assume, that they intend to live on the surface.(*hears Judy screaming*) So maybe you change the words - somehow?

like this.. in caverns high up in the mountains....

If you wanted to say this.....

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Title: Re: Kormor Toltrumerim
Post by: Victhorin on 20 May 2004, 01:10:00
Yes Talia. Thanks. That is what I meant.:thumbup  

Need to change it quick, before Judy sees it.

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Edited by: Victhorin at: 5/19/04 9:12


Title: Re: Kormor Toltrumerim
Post by: Victhorin on 22 May 2004, 12:26:00
Done. Now, let the comments start comming!

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Title: Re: Kormor Toltrumerim
Post by: Koldar Mondrakken on 22 May 2004, 16:42:00
Concept sounds great, however I'd like to distinguish the Deepdwarves more from the Kiingerim. They shouldn't be of the same origin, as such it might be good to distinguish more fact from myth. The Deepdwarves should be far beyond what is considered traditional in dwarven standards, they were in my mind always similar to Duerga or Darkdwarves living exclusively in the deepest depths of the mountains, however of no evil intent. You already describe it in that direction I'd just maybe make it clearer.

The Kiingerim were the traditional ones in the old times but were displaced by the WoC. Menemronn literally shattered the mountain cities(and the mountains) and turnt them into barren wastelands.

The Deepdwarves could be native dwarves, however maybe the two brothers decided to join their way of life(merging with them) and the others wanted to build own kingdoms?

These are only just some suggestions and what I had locked up somewhere in the back of my mind. :)

What I find a bit difficult is what war is that about? Does any Santharian myth about that age apply as well for Nybelmar? That'd assume that all elven myths are true which brings us back to some terrible discussions. ;)  The ancient times should be as vague as possible.


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Title: Re: Kormor Toltrumerim
Post by: Smith in Exile on 23 May 2004, 17:33:00
First I must say that this looks like it's going to be an excellent entry. I enjoyed the verses a lot and also I really liked the general style in which is written. It has quite a different feeling. :thumbup

I have one more thing to suggest though: about the War of the Chosen. Ok, it's a myth and we haven't reached an agreement yet about its extent in all the world. However, the beginnings of Nybelmar are definetely marked by a cataclysmic war which roughly matches the age in which the War of the Chosen is mentioned in Sarvonia. We called it like this until now mainly because we mentioned it as such in the Kayr and Murmillion myths about Menemronn. But it would be a lot easier and logical if we would find another name for this Nybelmarian cataclysm - as there are other nations/races which tell about it. Then, when the Sarvonian discussions reach this matter we can just mention its presence here (a similar thing happens with lots of myths, let's take for example just the Babel myth, ranging from central America to the biblical places, or the Flood myth, from Greece to Babylon at least). So... any ideas? "The Great War"? "The Great War from the Beginnings of Time"?

PS: hmmm... still, until now this looks more like a Misc or Tribes entry than a Places one...



Title: Re: Kormor Toltrumerim
Post by: Victhorin on 24 May 2004, 03:49:00
Yes, the entry are now a Misc even though it was intended to be a pure entry about the mine.

Yes, Koldar, the Deep Dwarves can be the natives. The brothers can fightover joining vs. creating something new. I will have to change some in the verses and text, but thats nothing.

There will probably come a Tribe entry about the Deep Dwarves.

Smith, I leave you with the war-naming. Is the name all we need or should we make a myth ourself?

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Edited by: Victhorin at: 5/23/04 14:43


Title: Re: Kormor Toltrumerim
Post by: Koldar Mondrakken on 24 May 2004, 04:37:00
I understand the overview refering to an event before WoC. That was what I was asking.


Koldar Mondrakken, Knight of the Moonlight



Title: Re: Kormor Toltrumerim
Post by: Smith in Exile on 24 May 2004, 08:13:00
I think that the WoC he was refering to was actually the war with Menemronn - so he is talking about things that were there before Menemronn started his Nybelmarian conquest. Right?



Title: Re: Kormor Toltrumerim
Post by: Victhorin on 24 May 2004, 12:46:00
Yes. Smith is right. These events takes place before the war with Menemronn, but I've allways thought that the war with Menemronn WAS the War of the Chosen.

I've change it now and the Deep Dwarves are NOT from the same origin as the High Dwarves now. The runes are change a little and the text also, but most of it remains.

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Edited by: Victhorin at: 5/23/04 20:48


Title: Re: Kormor Toltrumerim
Post by: Koldar Mondrakken on 24 May 2004, 13:28:00
Yes, that's correct. I just wondered to what other war you're referring to then, Favalcalar? I'm mainly not sure if that should be clearly linked to any Santharian myth though obviously the oldes elcven myths in Nybelmar might have references to them.  I see the WoC as the beginning of history in Nybelmar anything beyond that should be very fragmented. Was mainly wondering about that point.

Otherwise, fine. I'll read it aign asap.


Koldar Mondrakken, Knight of the Moonlight



Title: Re: Kormor Toltrumerim
Post by: Victhorin on 25 May 2004, 02:09:00
If it don't fit I can change the war, to maybe a "natural" disaster. But the dwarves need, as our dear Judy has pointed out, a VERY strong reason for leaving their underground homes. I really want the dwarves to be on the run from something.

But as you said, anything before the WoC should be vague.

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Edited by: Victhorin at: 5/24/04 12:12


Title: Re: Kormor Toltrumerim
Post by: Smith in Exile on 25 May 2004, 09:20:00
No, I think the war is fine, the problem was before the war. But as we can't really say that the lands didn't existed before that, just vague expressions should be in order.



Title: Oki
Post by: Victhorin on 26 May 2004, 00:22:00
Do I need to change anything else? I could use Judith, but I realize that she is not online in these times.

Is it "Nybelmarian-OK"?



Title: Re: Kormor Toltrumerim
Post by: Koldar Mondrakken on 27 May 2004, 06:06:00
Typos/Corrections: red (I'll only catch the obvious ones though!)
Comments: orange (was very picky whenever I didn't got a clear image from teh description)


The Legend of Kormor Toltrumerim

Overview
Before the War of the Chosen there was a great mine under the Zharkanions called Kormor Toltrumerim. [But...] When Menemronn crushed the Toltrumerim in their caves the legend says the clan was wiped out along with their mines.[This sentence falls a bit out of context] But among the Nybelmargerim the legend also says that the greatest of all Toltrumerim mines still remains unharmed and unpopulated under the mountains and when its rediscovered the dwarves will once again be one of the greatest power of Nybelmar. On AleronsZeRotrumEol or the Runes of the Eastern Mountain the history of the Deep Dwarves are told.


Pre-history
Since the beginning the Deep Dwarves lived under Nybelmar[can one live under a continent maybe just "beneath"?], deep under the Zharkanions.
Other dwarves came to Nybelmar in the Age of Silence. By then they were travelling south in great numbers, fleeing from a war in the north[I gave that another thought. As we're speaking of mythology and prehistory here maybe just "fleeing from a Great Evil" may be sufficient? Can be a plague, war, anything. through time it was seen as just a great evil danger the forefather fled from.]. Four brothers lead them on their travel. Their names were Keriloin, Mortiloin, Heriloin and Gakeloin, all great leaders and warriors.

“Fleeing great emeny
Towards south they walked
Many dwarves”
Vers 1

When reaching the nortern parts of the Zharkanions, after much trouble, a dispute broke out among the brothers about what to do next. Keriloin and Heriloin wanted to create a new great kingdom high up in the mountains were no one could touch them while Mortiloin and Gakeloin wanted to join the dwarves deep in the mountain. The whole group of dwarves were split up by the dispute. They started fighting dwarf against dwarf and the fight didn’t ended until two of the brothers died fighting each other. [It is kind of missing that they actually met the Deepdwarves! I do not know wether this should fill another verse(might be problematic) but I guess it should be stated somewhere that they met some longlost cousins (which dwarf is not a longlost cousin?;) ) and considered joining them, but two of the leaders wanted to wander further to found a kingdom of their own.]

“Fighting broke out
Angry dwarves fell dead
Children was scared”
Vers 2

Mortiloin, the older of the two, and Keriloin, the younger, decided to split up the group and search for fortune on separate ways. As Mortiloin and his friends were welcomed with open arms by the Deep Dwarves, Keriloin took the rest and started walking up the mountain.[Walking up the mountain. Is that grammatically correct? Otherwise he not only walked up but also further south I take it? More towards the center of the mountain range. It just that the barren lands stretch southwest of Fullwanooth along the Zsharkanion Peaks]

“Four brother became two
Keriloin walked on the mountain
Mortiloil walked under the mountain”
Vers 3

The dwarves that lived under the mountains called themselves Toltrumerim, or Under-Rock Dwarves but in the legends of the other races they became known as the [Not sure, just liked the two sentences connected better. The deal with the same topic.] Deep Dwarves. They had found that the Zharkanoins was rich of gold and silver and the stone easy to cutI was thinking that maybe in the deepest mines also Mithril was found. maybe only in legends but gold and silver sounds rather ordinary. Maybe noting that a wide array of stone and ores could be found would be sufficient as well. It's just gold silver and easy to cut stone sounds not very impressive...:) ]. Hall by hall and tunnel by tunnel the system was extended, with much help from the newcomers. More dwarves came from the north and the numbers of both groups grew.
Keriloin and his Kiingerim, the High Dwarves, created the great dwarven kingdom he dreamt of in a valley they called Heriloin-valley after the dead brother. There, they found many gems and precious stones. [Maybe note what rank/position/place the leader of the newcomers got among the Deepdwarves]


“Keriloin liked the stone so black
Motliloin liked the gems glittering
The group of dwarves were split up”
Vers 4

Under the roots of the mountain the Deep Dwarves felt secure[Secure? Secure from what? As the Deepdwarves always lived deep underground it is not notable that they felt secure. Maybe note that with the combined force of the newcomers and the Deepdwarves their kingdom deep under the rock flourished and they started to build new colonies?] and started to build colonies in both north and south. Just before his death Mortiloin named the mine Kormor Toltrumerim, The Great Mine of the Deep Dwarves. The mine was the centre of the cave system.

A generation after his death the tribe had a town in the northeast called Tyr Bruk and a mine in the south called Mor MithtenThuuth. The colonies were connected with giant tunnels that stretched under ground stral after stral. On the way taverns and inns were built so that one could travel in relative comfort. Enormous light shafts and thousands of torches lit up the tunnel just so much as the dwarves like it.
At Tyr Bruk a giant gap inside the first hall worked as protection and the rest of the town could only be reached by a bridge from which the town got its name.
The town was used as trading place with other races and it was the only known place where one could meet Deep Dwarves. The trading however was conducted on the outside of the mountain.[Reading about it I'm reminded of the Ylossians of Sarvonia, maybe they could be a hidden link to some extent? Just an idea that could be hinted but shouldn't be elaborated I guess, given the distance]

“Tunnels went on forever
Air, food and water fresh
All the way from mine to town”
Vers 5

The Gornegron of Kormor Toltrumerim was more powerful than most Gornegrons. He ruled the underground realm like a king and took little advice from his Gorkavons. Despite this the Gornegrons were always liked by the Toltrumerim and no revolt ever took place.
The Gorkavons in their turn ruled the colonies like little kings. Because of the long distances the colonies were hard to monitor for the Gornegron. Senders were used to communicate with the other mines.

“On a throne he sat
Ruled with wisdom
A mighty dwarf the Gorgnegron was”
Vers 7

Towns and mines of the Toltrumerim before the War of the Choosen:

Kormor Toltrumerim (Great Mine of the Deep Dwarves).
This was said to be the greatest mining town in the whole world. Above the huge mines and forges gigantic halls were carved out of the living[Excuse a dumb human, what is living rock??] rock. The Hall of Motilolin are described in the AleronsZeRotrumEol like this:

“Stack 100 Toltrumerim
One on the others shoulder
They still would not reach the roof”
Vers 8

The rest of Kormor Toltrumerim was just as impressive. The mine was bigger than any other mine and the tunnels went deeper and longer than any other tunnels. The stone carvings were not as impressive as the ones in the Kiingerim cities, but no human or elf could ever dream of making such carvings[two times "carving" in one sentence, another word maybe?].

Mor MithtenThuuth (Mine of Iron-Fire)
The Mor MithtenThuuth was a mine rich with iron ore and connected with the grandest forges in the realm. From Mor MithtenThuuth ore and iron bars and even fine metal art came all day long. The mine was only occupied by the miners and no military were present as there was no way out. The only way in or out of the mine was through the tunnels to Kormor Toltrumerim.[The last two sentences kind of contradict each other? Either there is a way out or not. As you say there's one way out so it is misleading to claim the opposite]

“All day Havach work
Taking iron and ore from mine
To the Kormor Toltrumerim”
Verse 9

Tyr Bruk (Town of the Bridge)
This town was the contact to outer world for the Deep Dwarves and the only known settlement for other races. For all they saw, the Deep Dwarves were just a few dwarves living in the northern parts of the Zharkanions. They could easily have guessed that it was a bit more with all the merchandise coming out of the mountain. The dwarves had a market set up about 70 strals northwest[can you make that southwest or west because anything around it will be flattened, the barren lands are in the southwest/west between the Zsharkanion and the Elven forests so as Menemronn collapsded all dwarven cities in that region they also should be somewhere there.] of were Fullwannooth now lies. That is also close to RotrumEol were the runes were carved in. The opening to the town however was always kept as a secret.[don' quite get this one. I thought this town was their contact to the others?]
There was a great bridge inside the mountains and it was guarded day and night. At Tyr Bruk the military presence was great as this was the main way in and out of the realm.

“In Tyr Bruk the bridge was long
Other races could not enter
Traders met outside”
Verse 6


Mor Dishuniolin (Incomplete Mine)
This mine was named after the War of the Chosen. Then last part of the text, the tenth verse, is not written by the same person who wrote the first nine. The runes are badly carved and only the magic protecting the whole stone has kept them in good condition. The tenth verse speaks of a newly built mine that were very rich with gems and gold, but that it was destroyed before it was finished. The one who wrote the last verse could very well be from that mine.
The mine are said to have been located in the northwest part of the mountains.

“A new beginning
Richer than all other mines
Destroyed by the dark, evil power”
Verse 10

Towns of the Kiingerim before the War of the Chosen:
As told by the old tales of the Kiingerim

The old Kiingerim tales and myths tell us about an underground kingdom that was friends of the tribe. They speak of great tunnels and ramps that lead up to the cities. Therefore there is reason to believe that the two tribes traded with each other.

Kerrintyr - (Highest Town)
This was the capitol of the Kiingerim. Located high up in the mountains, south of Kormor Toltrumerim the city covered three mountaintops and the vallley between them. All three moutains were filled with halls and tunnels and in the three mountaintops rooms for the sharp-eyed scout were cut out.
The three mountains were called Granoli, Ovikoli and Bonasolin after their first Garkavons and Garkavons were in command of each one from the creation until the end.
They were, as well as the other colonies, run like provinces.
The Gornegron sat on his throne in RotrumOvikoli - Mount Ovikoli - and oversaw the whole realm. He had more direct power over the realm than the Gornegron of the Deep Dwarves.
The stone of Mount Ovikoli were dark grey and the tunnels would be very dark if not light shafts were built.


Kiindenityr – (High-Holy-Town)
The northern city of the Kiingerim was also the seat of the Denirim. The Kiingerim had only one Denirim for all of its dwarves, and he or she, had sub-priests called Denierons. There were about twenty-five of them, ten for the big towns and five for Mor/Tyr Faerath.

The stone of Denirotrum – Holy Mountain – were light grey, sometimes almost white. The lighting of the city was therefore not needed in the same degree as in Kerrintyr.

Mor/Tyr Faerath – (Mine/Town of Hiding)[in Santerran: Tower of Iron]
The smallest settlement of the Kiingerim and the last to be built. That was lucky for them it seems as they were the only town to be overseen by the hordes of the Burning Mountains. If the city had a connection to Kormor Toltrumerim is debated. The Traders Council is not saying anything about it. The most common guess is that there is a connection to the tunnels but not to the mine. The tunnels would serve as an escape if the city were taken by force. If a connection to the mine would exist the Council would be foolish not to use it more.
[more or anymore?]


Koldar Mondrakken, Knight of the Moonlight



Title: Re: Kormor Toltrumerim
Post by: Victhorin on 28 May 2004, 01:58:00
I can't write very much, I'm at work so...:devilish

But I had a glance at your comments and I agree with almost everything. Why can't I see this when I'm writing:confused    ?

Living rock? Ask Judy. She's the one who made me start with that expression.

An 11th verse? Sure. No problem. Actually, 10 originally verses and 1 extra is better I think.

Welcomed with open arms
Brother of the past
Not every one agreed



Could it be "Mor/Tyr Faerath (Thergerim Tyr Faerath - Mine/Town of Hiding, In Santheran Tyrain Faerath - Tower of Iron" or something like that.

Impatient? Me? Who said that? Come on, tell me! We haven't got all day!

Edited by: Victhorin at: 5/27/04 10:09


Title: Re: Kormor Toltrumerim
Post by: Victhorin on 31 May 2004, 02:22:00
Done with the changes now.

The opening of the town were kept a secret, but not the area where it was. The one who wanted to trade with the Deep Dwarves came to the area and a dwarf came out and met them.  

Impatient? Me? Who said that? Come on, tell me! We haven't got all day!



Title: Re: Kormor Toltrumerim
Post by: Victhorin on 31 May 2004, 12:18:00
Dear Artimidor,
can you make this a Misc-entry and NOT a Place-entry.
Thank you

Impatient? Me? Who said that? Come on, tell me! We haven't got all day!



Title: Re: Kormor Toltrumerim
Post by: Bard Judith on 02 June 2004, 12:02:00
Oooo ooo oo! :pet  (jumps up and down with excitement)

I just discovered this fascinating entry and haven't got time ti read over carefully / edit / comment...

I'm glad Koldar already had a look at the history / war part, and I see he's also done a line-by-line overview which means less for me to comment on in terms of facts...

I'd like to do a proofread though, and I'll try to do that before the update, ok, Victhorin?

Must say I LOVE the styling of this entry with the interpolated verses,,, will steal that idea sometime!  (Imitation is the sincerest form of flattery, remember?)  :b  



Title: Re: Kormor Toltrumerim
Post by: Victhorin on 02 June 2004, 14:49:00
Yes Judith, I will remember that when you win awards for your wounderful entries, written with this style and I'm left in the Shadows..;)  

Nah, I'm just kidding. Just go ahead. I like the idea that my work inspirers others.:nod  

Looking forward to the colorful proof reading.  

Impatient? Me? Who said that? Come on, tell me! We haven't got all day!

Edited by: Victhorin at: 6/1/04 22:50


Title: Re: Kormor Toltrumerim
Post by: Victhorin on 08 June 2004, 03:08:00
Arrrghhh!!!!!!!!!!

Stupid board!

It just took my text away!

Need to do the editing all over again.

Impatient? Me? Who said that? Come on, tell me! We haven't got all day!



Title: Re: Kormor Toltrumerim
Post by: Ta`lia of the Seven Jewels on 08 June 2004, 03:38:00


Don't worry!

Everyone seems to have to learn by himself!  ;)  This time it was you - you will surely edit your things from now on in a editing program!

:hug    

***Astropic of the day***
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Title: Re: Kormor Toltrumerim
Post by: Victhorin on 08 June 2004, 11:59:00
Yes, but I'm slow learner.;)

No, I'm a t work. I edited the text in MS Word and pasted it in the Comment-area. When I pushed "Add reply" the text disapeared adn all it said was "HTML Comments are not allowed"....WELL I KNOW THAT NOW!!!!!!!!:explode

Well, well, I'm done with my update. If only Judith would come here.:noidea  

Impatient? Me? Who said that? Come on, tell me! We haven't got all day!



Title: Re: Kormor Toltrumerim
Post by: Bard Judith on 15 June 2004, 21:09:00
:x   (sighs deeply)  Whew, finally got in here!  It's been a horrendously busy day at the beginning of what's going to be a horrendously busy week, just after finishing a horrendously busy week...  :speechless     Did I mention that we just bought our first house, are planning to be working in Korea for a month as of next month, and start a new job in September? :explode  

Anyhow, enough whining from me.  We hope to be going camping sometime this week, so that should be a blissful three days of rest...  For now I'll try and get a bit of this edited before midnight, ok?


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The Legend of Kormor Toltrumerim

Overview
Before the War of the Chosen, there was a great mine under the Zharkanions called Kormor Toltrumerim.  When Menemronn crushed the Toltrumerim in their caves, however, the clan was wiped out along with their mines.
But among the Nybelmargerim ( ) legend also says that the greatest of all Toltrumerim mines still remains unharmed and unpopulated under the mountains and when it is one day rediscovered the dwarves will once again be great powers in Nybelmar. In AleronsZeRotrumEol, or the Runes of the Eastern Mountain, the history of the Deep Dwarves is told.


Pre-history
Since the beginning of time the Deep Dwarves had lived beneath Nybelmar deep under the Zharkanions. Other dwarves came to Nybelmar in the Age of Silence. By then they were travelling south in great numbers, fleeing from a evil in the north. Four brothers led them on their travels. Their names were Keriloin, Mortiloin, Heriloin and Gakeloin, all great leaders and warriors.

“Fleeing great enemies
Southward they walked
Many dwarves”

Verse One

When reaching the northern parts of the Zharkanions they met the Deep Dwarves. This was when the trouble started. After a dispute a fight broke out among the brothers about what to do next. Keriloin and Heriloin wanted to create a new great kingdom high up in the mountains where no one could touch them, while Mortiloin and Gakeloin wanted to join the dwarves deep in the mountain. In the end the whole group of dwarves were split up by the dispute. They began fighting, dwarf against dwarf, and the conflict didn’t end until two of the brothers died fighting each other.

“Welcomed with open arms
Brother of the past
Not every one agreed”
Verse Two

“Fighting broke out
Angry dwarves fell dead
Children were scared”
Verse Three

Mortiloin, the older of the two remaining, and Keriloin, the younger, decided to split up their clan and search for fortune along separate ways. As Mortiloin and his friends were welcomed with open arms by the Deep Dwarves, Keriloin took the others and started walking southwest. They went up into the ranges until they found three high mountains.

“Four brothers became two
Keriloin walked on the mountain
Mortiloil walked under the mountain”
Verse Four

The dwarves that lived under the mountains called themselves Toltrumerim, or Under-Rock Dwarves, but in the legends of the other races they became known as the Deep Dwarves. They had found that the Zharkanoins were rich in gold and silver and the stone was easy to cut. In the deepest excavations they also found mithril, and the mine began to flourish. Hall by hall and tunnel by tunnel the system was extended, with much help from the newcomers. More dwarves came from the north and the numbers of both groups grew.

Mortiloin was appointed Garkavon of the Deep Dwarves. He was considered a brave and smart leader by both the Toltrumerim and the newcomers. When the Gornegron died, Mortiloin was chosen to be the next Gornegron.

Keriloin and his clan, who became known as Kiingerim, the High Dwarves, created the great dwarven kingdom of which he had dreamt in a valley he called Heriloin Vale after his dead brother. There, they found many gems and precious stones.

“Keriloin liked the stone so black
Motliloin liked the gems glittering
The group of dwarves were split up”


Verse Five

Shouldn't this be "Motliloin liked the stone so black / Keriloin liked the gems glittering..."?  You've just said M dug deeply and K found many precious stones... :veryconfused  

Under the roots of the mountain the Deep Dwarves became richer by the day and started to build colonies in both north and south. Just before his death Mortiloin named the mine Kormor Toltrumerim, The Great Mine of the Deep Dwarves. The mine was the centre of the cave system.

A generation after his death the tribe had a town in the northeast called Tyr Bruk, and a mine in the south called Mor MithtenThuuth. ( This would abbreviate over time into a single-word name, probably "Mor Mithuth" or "MorMithuuth") The colonies were connected with giant tunnels that stretched underground stral after stral. On the way taverns and inns were built so that one could travel in relative comfort. Long light shafts and thousands of torches set into recesses lit up the tunnel just brightly enough for dwarven eyes.

At Tyr Bruk a deep crevasse ringing the first hall worked as protection; the rest of the town could only be reached by the single bridge from which the town took its name. The town was used as a trading place with other races and it was the only known place where one could meet Deep Dwarves. The actual trading, however, was conducted on the outside of the mountain. :veryconfused   (Huh?  Either the town is a trading place or it's not.  I'd delete this last sentence IMHO...) :b  

“Tunnels went on forever
Air, food and water fresh
All the way from mine to town”
Verse Seven


________________ok, stopping here for the night!  Hope that helps, will try to finish later..._______________________

The Gornegron of Kormor Toltrumerim was more powerful than most Gornegrons. He ruled the underground realm like a king and took little advice from his Gorkavons. Despite this the Gornegrons were always liked by the Toltrumerim and no revolt ever took place.
The Gorkavons in their turn ruled the colonies like little kings. Because of the long distances the colonies were hard to monitor for the Gornegron. Senders were used to communicate with the other mines.

“On a throne he sat
Ruled with wisdom
A mighty dwarf the Gorgnegron was”
Vers 8

Towns and mines of the Toltrumerim before the War of the Choosen:

Kormor Toltrumerim (Great Mine of the Deep Dwarves).
This was said to be the greatest mining town in the whole world. Above the huge mines and forges gigantic halls were carved out of the living rock. The Hall of Motilolin are described in the AleronsZeRotrumEol like this:

“Stack 100 Toltrumerim
One on the others shoulder
They still would not reach the roof”
Verse Fifteen

The rest of Kormor Toltrumerim was just as impressive. The mine was bigger than any other mine and the tunnels went deeper and longer than any other tunnels. The stone carvings were not as impressive as the ones in the Kiingerim cities, but no human or elf could ever dream of making such craftsmanship.

Mor MithtenThuuth (Mine of Iron-Fire)
The Mor MithtenThuuth was a mine rich with iron ore and connected with the grandest forges in the realm. From Mor MithtenThuuth ore and iron bars and even fine metal art came all day long. The mine was only occupied by the miners and no military were present as there was only one way out and that was through the tunnels to Kormor Toltrumerim.

“All day Havach work
Taking iron and ore from mine
To the Kormor Toltrumerim”
Verse Seventeen

Tyr Bruk (Town of the Bridge)
This town was the contact to outer world for the Deep Dwarves and the only known settlement for other races. For all they saw, the Deep Dwarves were just a few dwarves living in the northern parts of the Zharkanions. They could easily have guessed that it was a bit more with all the merchandise coming out of the mountain. The dwarves had a market set up about 70 strals southwest of were Fullwannooth now lies. That is also close to RotrumEol were the runes were carved in. The opening to the town however was always kept as a secret. To met the Toltrumerim the trader stopped at a certain place and waited until someone from the town came out to meet him. It was assumed that the dwarves had scouts that monitored the place day and night.
There was a great bridge inside the mountains and it was guarded day and night. At Tyr Bruk the military presence was great as this was the main way in and out of the realm.

“In Tyr Bruk the bridge was long
Other races could not enter
Traders met outside”
Verse Thirteen


Mor Dishuniolin (Incomplete Mine)
This mine was named after the War of the Chosen. Then last part of the text, the tenth verse, is not written by the same person who wrote the first nine. The runes are badly carved and only the magic protecting the whole stone has kept them in good condition. The tenth verse speaks of a newly built mine that were very rich with gems and gold, but that it was destroyed before it was finished. The one who wrote the last verse could very well be from that mine.
The mine are said to have been located in the northwest part of the mountains.

“A new beginning
Richer than all other mines
Destroyed by the dark, evil power”
Verse Nineteen

Towns of the Kiingerim before the War of the Chosen:
As told by the old tales of the Kiingerim

The old Kiingerim tales and myths tell us about an underground kingdom that was friends of the tribe. They speak of great tunnels and ramps that lead up to the cities. Therefore there is reason to believe that the two tribes traded with each other.

Kerrintyr - (Highest Town)
This was the capitol of the Kiingerim. Located high up in the mountains, south of Kormor Toltrumerim the city covered three mountaintops and the vallley between them. All three moutains were filled with halls and tunnels and in the three mountaintops rooms for the sharp-eyed scout were cut out.
The three mountains were called Granoli, Ovikoli and Bonasolin after their first Garkavons and Garkavons were in command of each one from the creation until the end.
They were, as well as the other colonies, run like provinces.
The Gornegron sat on his throne in RotrumOvikoli - Mount Ovikoli - and oversaw the whole realm. He had more direct power over the realm than the Gornegron of the Deep Dwarves.
The stone of Mount Ovikoli were dark grey and the tunnels would be very dark if not light shafts were built.


Kiindenityr – (High-Holy-Town)The northern city of the Kiingerim was also the seat of the Denirim. The Kiingerim had only one Denirim for all of its dwarves, and he or she, had sub-priests called Denierons. There were about twenty-five of them, ten for the big towns and five for Mor/Tyr Faerath.

The stone of Denirotrum – Holy Mountain – were light grey, sometimes almost white. The lighting of the city was therefore not needed in the same degree as in Kerrintyr.

Mor/Tyr Faerath – (In Thergerim; Mine/Town of Hiding and in Santerran; Tower of Iron)
The smallest settlement of the Kiingerim and the last to be built. That was lucky for them it seems as they were the only town to be overseen by the hordes of the Burning Mountains. If the city had a connection to Kormor Toltrumerim is debated. The Traders Council is not saying anything about it. The most common guess is that there is a connection to the tunnels but not to the mine. The tunnels would serve as an escape if the city were taken by force. If a connection to the mine would exist the Council would be foolish not to use it anymore.

Edited by: Bard Judith at: 6/15/04 5:10


Title: Re: Kormor Toltrumerim
Post by: Victhorin on 18 June 2004, 04:53:00
Thank you so much for the comments.

Right now I'm starting a new job as a "Order-planner" or something like that. As you know, I don't know my english.

Before I start editing I just want to know why you change the verses to "fiftteen" and "thirteen" etc???:veryconfused

I have said that it will be 10 verses originally and one written after Menemronn.

Impatient? Me? Who said that? Come on, tell me! We haven't got all day!



Title: Re: Kormor Toltrumerim
Post by: Bard Judith on 19 June 2004, 15:16:00
Ah, yes, sorry, should've explained that for you! :hammer

My reasoning was that it's a bit too 'neat' to have one verse for each part of the entry exactly corresponding.  When you are quoting a text to prove a point or illustrate an entry, whether it  be a sonnet by John Donne, a proverb by Solomon, or a philosophical treatise by Artimidor Federkiel, you rarely quote in entirety, but select sections.

So therefore, when you make the verses numbered with a few gaps, or even out of 'order', you strengthen the illusion of reality - as if you've only quoted the parts you need. Of course, if you have a reason for wanting specifically TEN verses only, feel free to disregard that part of the edit!  



Title: Re: Kormor Toltrumerim
Post by: Victhorin on 20 June 2004, 06:27:00
I have no strong reason to have ten verses, it's just that I this is the only known source of information written down about the Toltrumerim and if there is so little information you want to use it all.
The entry is based only on the runes so I cant really be picky about what verses to write about.  

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Title: Re: Kormor Toltrumerim
Post by: Bard Judith on 13 July 2004, 18:15:00
Victhorin?  Yo, Victhorin?

(looks around the dark cavern for any signs of life)

Have all those order plans overwhelmed you?  Next time take your pickax and lantern in with you, ok? :hammer

If you do manage to dig yourself out, try and have a final look over this entry - it's too nice to languish and should get up soon if possible!    



Title: Re: Kormor Toltrumerim
Post by: Artimidor Federkiel on 14 July 2004, 01:57:00
Yeah, I'd like to see this one up as well:)  


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Title: Re: Kormor Toltrumerim
Post by: Victhorin on 14 July 2004, 12:21:00
* comes up from the cavern, all tanned and tiered *

You'll never guess where this tunnels leads! Rome!

Been there, done that. Now to this entry.

I've done the updates suggested in your post. I haven't changed the numbers of the verses because of above mentioned reasons. You ended your suggestions in the middle of the text and I'm waiting for the rest.

* looks at the bard *

Am I missing something here?

It can't be that you have no comments after:

________________ok, stopping here for the night! Hope that helps, will try to finish later..._______________________

Impatient? Me? Who said that? Come on, tell me! We haven't got all day!

Edited by: Victhorin at: 7/13/04 20:23


Title: Re: Kormor Toltrumerim
Post by: Smith in Exile on 14 July 2004, 17:18:00
lol, you returned safely :lol  were the italians angry? I guess not :)  



Title: Finishing edit....
Post by: Bard Judith on 14 July 2004, 20:54:00

The Gornegron of Kormor Toltrumerim was more powerful than most Gornegrons of his era. He ruled the underground realm like a human king and took little advice from his Gorkavons. Despite this, the Gornegrons were usually well-liked by the Toltrumerim and no revolt ever took place.

The Gorkavons in their turn ruled the colonies like little kings, or human dukes. Because of the long distances involved, the colonies were hard to monitor for the Gornegron.  Senders were used to communicate with the other mines, but the local Gorkavon's desires were generally in effect for each colony.

On a throne he sat
Ruled with wisdom
A mighty dwarf the Gorgnegron was?br> Vers 8

Towns and mines of the Toltrumerim before the War of the Chosen:

Kormor Toltrumerim (Great Mine of the Deep Dwarves).
This was said to be the greatest mining town in the whole of Caelereth.  Above the huge mines and forges, gigantic halls were carved out of the living rock. The Hall of Motilolin , one of these stunning artificial caverns, is described in the AleronsZeRotrumEol like this:

Stack one hundred Toltrumerim
One on the shoulders of the next
They still would not reach the roof?br> Verse Fifteen

The rest of Kormor Toltrumerim was just as impressive. The extent of the mine was unmatched, and the tunnels went deeper and longer than any other tunnels had gone before. The stone carvings were not as impressive as the ones in the Kiingerim cities, but no human or elf could ever dream of matching such craftsmanship.

Mor MithtenThuuth (Mine of Iron-Fire)
The Mor MithtenThuuth was a mine rich with iron ore, and possessed the grandest forges in the realm. From Mor MithtenThuuth ore and iron bars and even fine metal art came all day long. The mine was only occupied by the miners and no military were present as there was only one way out - through the tunnels to Kormor Toltrumerim.

All day the Havach work
Taking iron and ore from mine
To the Kormor Toltrumerim.
Verse Seventeen

Tyr Bruk (Town of the Bridge)
This town was the contact to the outer world for the Deep Dwarves and the only settlement known to other races.  For all that humans knew,  the Deep Dwarves were just a few dwarves living in the northern parts of the Zharkanions. One would think that they might have estimated more accurately, with all the merchandise coming out of the mountain.

The dwarves had a market set up about 70 strals southwest of where Fullwannooth now lies. That is also close to RotrumEol, the place of runes.  The opening to the town, however, was always kept as a secret. To meet  with Toltrumerim the trader stopped at a certain place and waited until someone from the town came out to meet him. Humans assumed, correctly,  that the dwarves had scouts who monitored the place day and night.
There was a great bridge inside the mountains and it was guarded day and night. At Tyr Bruk the military presence was at its greatest strength, as this was the main way in and out of the realm.

“In Tyr Bruk the bridge was long
Other races could not enter
Traders met outside?br> Verse Thirteen


Mor Dishuniolin (Incomplete Mine)
This mine was named after the War of the Chosen. The final verse, given below, does not seem to have been written by the same person who wrote the first nine. The runes are badly carved and only the magic protecting the whole stone has kept them in good condition. The tenth verse speaks of a newly-built mine that were very rich with gems and gold, but also claims that it was destroyed before it was finished. The dwarf who carved the last verse could very well have been from that mine.The mine is said to have been located in the northwest part of the mountains.

“A new beginning
Richer than all other mines
Destroyed by the dark, evil power?br> Verse Nineteen

Towns of the Kiingerim before the War of the Chosen:
As told by the old tales of the Kiingerim

The old Kiingerim tales and myths tell us about an underground kingdom that was a friend of the tribe. They speak of great tunnels and ramps that lead up to the cities. Therefore there is reason to believe that the two tribes traded with each other.

Kerrintyr - (Highest Town)
This was the capitol of the Kiingerim. Located high up in the mountains, south of Kormor Toltrumerim, the city covered three mountaintops and the vallley between them. All three moutains were filled with halls and tunnels and in the three mountaintops rooms for the sharp-eyed scouts were cut out.

The three mountains were called Granoli, Ovikoli and Bonasolin after their first Garkavons, and Garkavons were in command of each one from the creation until the end.

They were, as well as the other colonies, run like provinces.
The Gornegron sat on his throne in RotrumOvikoli - Mount Ovikoli - and oversaw the whole realm. He had more direct power over the realm than the Gornegron of the Deep Dwarves.
The stone of Mount Ovikoli were dark grey and the tunnels would have been very dark if not for the light shafts that were set through their roofs.

Kiindenityr ?(High-Holy-Town)The northern city of the Kiingerim was also the seat of the Denirim. The Kiingerim had only one Denirim for all of its dwarves, and he or she { } had subpriests called Denierons. There were about twenty-five of them, ten for the big towns and five for Mor/Tyr Faerath.

The stone of Denirotrum ?Holy Mountain ?were light grey, sometimes almost white. The lighting of the city was therefore not needed in the same degree as in Kerrintyr.

Mor/Tyr Faerath ?(In Thergerim; Mine/Town of Hiding and in Santerran; Tower of Iron)
This was the smallest settlement of the Kiingerim and the last to be built. That was lucky for them, as it seems as they were the only town to be overseen by the hordes of the Burning Mountains. Whether the city had a connection to Kormor Toltrumerim is debatable - the Traders Council is not saying anything about it. The most common guess is that there was a connection to the tunnels but not to the mine. The tunnels would serve as an escape if the city were taken by force. If a connection to the mine currently existed,  the Council would be foolish not to use it anymore.


:hammer  Thanks for the reminder to finish this, Vic! :hammer



Title: Re: Finishing edit....
Post by: Victhorin on 15 July 2004, 00:13:00
Judith. Thanks for the corrections. Hope to finish this tonight.

Smith: No, the Italians were nice. One of them said: "Ljungberg, Ibrahimovic are good players, Totti and Vieri are just actors"

Impatient? Me? Who said that? Come on, tell me! We haven't got all day!



Title: Re: Finishing edit....
Post by: Smith in Exile on 15 July 2004, 09:14:00
hehe, that's what I heard too (they put Del Pierro in the same pot too) ;)  



Title: Re: Kormor Toltrumerim
Post by: Victhorin on 15 July 2004, 10:14:00
Ok. Updates done now. Thank you all.:)  

Impatient? Me? Who said that? Come on, tell me! We haven't got all day!