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Title: Zarathian Dagger
Post by: Drasil Razorfang on 28 May 2006, 15:43:00
Overview:

An ornate dagger originating from the Zarathian tribe of Aeruillin, this weapon's popularity has spread around the continent, along the numerous trading routes of the Zarathian tribe. Which it shares the same cultural significance as the Cholian  Sparth, this weapon is adapted to fit the Zarathian lifestyle. The weapon, recognized for its perfection, is also bought for use by those outside the tribe, primarily for thieves and assasins as it is of the highest quality, slow to dull and contains elaborate inlays.

Description:


Zarathian Dagger: This dagger is awarded to a child on its fourteenth birthday, marking their passing to a full member of the tribe with all the rights, privileges and responsibilities of an adult. No matter the affluence of the wielder, it is always extravagant, though not to the point of being gaudy or unusable. The blade resembles that of the person's last dagger, however it is engraved, usually with pictures describing the person or a family crest.

The handle of the dagger is as extravagant as the blade. Though it is usually made of an expensive metal, common features such as the addition of precious stones are not used as they make the weapon unwieldy. The handle is commonly engraved with a family crest at its center, surrounded by intricate designs.

The dagger is almost always worn in an equally as extravagant sheath seated on the wielder's hip allowing for easy access because they are often kept very sharp and are used quite frequently.

The size of the dagger varies, however on average, they are kept pretty small. The weight of the dagger varies slightly in each gender, however men's daggers are considerably heavier than those of women.

Zarathian Training Dagger: This dagger is the first received by a Zarathian at approximately 8 years of age. This weapon is a minute dagger, meant to fit the hand of a child, though it is used very rarely by adults. The weapon, unlike an adult's dagger, has no designs and consists solely of a tiny blade and a handle. The blade is straight and blunted to prevent injuries while training. The hilt, like the blade, is also very bland. This dagger is usually worn proudly by the child who owns it in a small sheath at the child's hip and is the ONLY weapon that the child will have until he or she reaches maturity.

Zarathian Specialized Training Dagger: Seeing as a Zarathian is allowed to choose the manner in which the blade of his weapon is shaped, this training dagger varies based upon the child. Usually awarded at the age of 12, the blade of this weapon is the only section that differs from a young child's dagger. Each owner is allowed to choose, within certain limits, the shape of the blade. These shapes range from straight blades, as found commonly on regular daggers, or an abrupt curve, forming a moonblade-like dagger, though serations are quite common due to their practicality. The dagger is also slightly larger than a regular training dagger, marking the child’s elevated status. The type of blade in which the child chooses, forces him or her to undergo additional training in the use of the new weapon. Smaller classes are derived based on each section. After completing this training, the child is allowed to receive the adults' dagger at the age of 14.

Usages:

Within Zarathian Tribe:

When the Zarathian Dagger was created, it served the dual purpose as a mark of adulthood as well as serving as protection. In the Zarathian culture, when a child completes their training and is old enough to be considered an adult, they are awarded with an extravagant dagger by the elder members of their family. The dagger is then engraved to show areas of interest of the owner as well as with a family crest and other identifying markings. Seeing as the dagger is the sign of a child's maturity, rarely will you find anyone with out their dagger.

The dagger's appearance also fits very well into the Zarathian lifestyle. As traders, the Zarathians need an effective way to protect themselves without scaring off any customers because of intimidating guards or weapons. The dagger can easily be hidden in a saddle bag, or on a mule if necessary, allowing the Zarathian to feel protected, yet prevent others from knowing, though the tribe's pride often prevents them from doing so.

Other Aeruillin Tribes:

As the Zarathians are a trading people, it is only natural for the use of their dagger to have spread as people traveled to their city.  The weapon naturally became used by cutthroats to liquidate targets as it is known for its perfection and plethora of shapes.  However, despite its exploitation by theses assassins, the dagger also seduced merchants, farmers and women into its usage as it offered efficient protection, while allowing the proprietor to appear innocent and unprotected, which in turn led to prosperity for the people in theses various lifestyles.

Seeing as Zarathians usually display their dagger proudly, many began to wonder what purpose the extravagant weapon served. After many speculations by the general populace, it was believed that the daggers were a symbol of wealth in the tribe. Affluent people, not wishing to be bested by their Zarathian neighbors, began to imitate the dagger, dressing their own with precious stones and wearing it as proudly as any Zarathian to flaunt their wealth to any passer by. Soon, the weapon became as much of a marker for economical and social status as a crown or a large estate.

Wanting to appear as if they belonged within the tribe, outsiders began proudly showing their own replicas of the weapon, strutting through the streets with the ornate weapon boldy displayed at their side.  Feeling no special connection to the weapon, it was not uncommon for the misinformed outsiders to attempt to sell their replicas, earning the distaste of the Zarathians.  The proud tribe, completely unimpressed by their neighbors' displays, openly ridiculed the merchants, creating an abrupt ending to the short-lived fashion.

Fighting Style:

Fighting techniques with the Zarathian Dagger are usually taught to children starting at the age of eight. The method taught encompasses all the uses of the dagger, showing children how to use both the element of surprise along with agility and strength. Seeing the misleading weapon "magically" appear in the hand of a Zarathian often startles the opponent, providing ample time for the wielder to dart in with the blade before the enemy has time to protect himself.

If this should fail, the Zarathian is then forced to square off with the enemy and fight in a normal duel. Seeing as the weapon is so small, dealing as much damage as possible per blow is evident as it takes much more effort to reach the enemy. Children are taught the locations of vital organs and weak spots along the chest, back, shoulders and legs. However, despite the deadly effect of each blow, the children are taught to treat combat as a dance, twirling and leaping past blows while darting in and out with the dagger, a feat that requires lots of practice. Also, along with this dexterity, the Zarathian is forced to provide considerable force behind each blow to make it more powerful, adding to the complexity of the dagger's use.  Despite the main focus on combat, these classes also encompass the practicality of the tribe.  Between breaks in combat training the children are taught more basic uses of the dagger, such as how to effectively use it cut rope or butcher meat.

History:

After the dagger made its way into the hands of the Zarathian men, it began to evolve to fit their lifestyle. Seeing as the Zarathians are a trading people, they needed a way to protect themselves and their wares without adopting an intimidating appearance which would lower their sales.  This led to the daggers found among the Zarathian tribe to become more efficient as time progressed and its popularity grew until eventually, almost everyone had a version of the customized dagger.

After many generations of popularity, the weapon began to integrate itself into Zarathian culture. Schools were opened to teach children how to use the weapon effectively. It also came to represent adulthood in the tribe. Once a child had completed their training, they would be awarded a dagger by their parents, showing that they could efficiently protect themselves and no longer needed to depend upon their parents for survival. The daggers that marked a child’s right of passage were extravagant, usually taking weeks to complete. The daggers were engraved and personalized based upon the child’s interests and his heritage. Zarathians could tell many personal things, such as hobbies and beliefs just by reading the symbols engraved along the blade’s surface. These adult daggers became so important that they became used as a compliment. For example, during business transactions, compliments of the opposing party’s dagger were used as flattery in order to achieve a more favorable bargain.

Seeing as the dagger played a significant role in the Zarathian culture, outsiders soon became curious as to what the beautiful daggers represented. After much debate, the general populace came to the conclusion that the daggers represented wealth. Seeking to show their own wealth, the popularity of the dagger drastically increased as nobles and peasants alike bought their own to flaunt their wealth to the general populace. This caused a boom in the expansion rate of the daggers, causing their popularity to fan out from primary trade routes by word of mouth until it encompassed most of the continent, sending many wealthy families journeying to Shan'Zarathan.


Title: Re: Zarathian Dagger
Post by: Stormraven on 28 May 2006, 20:42:00
Sounds good. You misspelled bought but other than that. Do you have more of what it look like?



Title: Re: Zarathian Dagger
Post by: Drasil Razorfang on 29 May 2006, 07:03:00
Yes I shall be posting the Description, Usage and possibly the fighting style sections today.

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Title: Re: Zarathian Dagger
Post by: Stormraven on 29 May 2006, 18:37:00
I have an idea for the right of passage dagger if my reasoning holds up that is.

This dagger is the last that a child is given symbolizing the passage from childhood to adulthood. Perhaps a fitting name would be the Arkh Dagger, Arkh means greatest and this is the greatest of the daggers given.



Title: Re: Zarathian Dagger
Post by: Drasil Razorfang on 29 May 2006, 18:55:00
Thank You Stormraven.  I will add it and see what Artemis and Artimidor think.

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Title: Re: Zarathian Dagger
Post by: Ta`lia of the Seven Jewels on 30 May 2006, 16:17:00
"skyrocketed" what is that? ;)

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Title: Re: Zarathian Dagger
Post by: Artemis on 30 May 2006, 16:48:00
Hey Drasil...

I don't have much time to read this right about now, but hopefully I will sometime tomorrow. Sorry, but a lot of stuff has been piling up over my exam time, and now my exams are finished, but I still have so much to do!

:D  :D  :D  

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Title: Re: Zarathian Dagger
Post by: Drasil Razorfang on 30 May 2006, 17:25:00
@ Talia:  Syrocketed is often used in an economical/stock market referance, though it is still commonly used in referance to popularity.  It means, in this case for its popularity to ZOOOOOOOOOM!(notice the emphasis on the zoom) up in a short period of time.  :)  

@ Artemis:  I know what you mean.  I have exams the week after next which is why I am trying to spit out all my entries before I have to begin studying so they are up for debate.

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Edited by: Drasil Razorfang at: 5/30/06 1:27


Title: Re: Zarathian Dagger
Post by: Artimidor Federkiel on 31 May 2006, 14:28:00
Though I'm not the Zarathian expert, I can check this entry in general for misspellings, incomplete sentences etc. and general problems. Here we go with the sentences that need fixing in the Appearance section:

- The general term "Zarathian Dagger" can be broken down into four separate sub-categories, each of which performs a specific function in the Zarathian society.

- This dagger is usually worn proudly by the child who owns it in a small sheath at the child's hip and is the ONLY weapon that the child will have until he or she reaches maturity.

- Each owner is allowed to choose, within certain limits

-  The type of blade in which the child chooses, forces him or her to undergo additional training in the use of the new weapon.

- the child is allowed to receive the adults' dagger at the age of 14.

- This dagger is awarded to a child on its fourteenth birthday, marking their passing to a full member of the tribe with all the rights, privileges and responsibilities of an adult. No matter the affluence of the wielder, it is always extravagant.

-  It is usually made of an expensive metal and set with precious stones. The handle is commonly engraved with a family crest at its center

- The dagger is almost always worn in an equally as extravagant sheath seated on the wielder's hip allowing for easy access because, even though these weapons appear to be mainly designed for show, they are often kept very sharp and are used quite frequently.

- however men's daggers are considerably heavier than those of women

- This type of Zarathian Dagger is often considered to be the dagger's 'standard form' as it is used by all adult Zarathians for protection outside their own, personalized dagger as well as being the only form of the dagger that the Zarathians trade with outsiders. (Don't understand this sentence construction.)


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Title: Re: Zarathian Dagger
Post by: Artemis on 31 May 2006, 19:40:00
Hey Drasil - once again I am really sorry for not getting around to this. Unfortunately it's looking like it'll be a few days before I have time to sit down and properly give this entry a thorough run over - as I mentioned before, I've just literally had exams finish, and now I am sorting out all my stuff in my current house (which is a lot) as I am moving out in 2 days time! So, really, it is hard to find the time to do much other than sort my rather messy room right now. I'm really sorry, I promise this will be first on my list to do when I have it all sorted.

:D  :D  :D  

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Title: Re: Zarathian Dagger
Post by: Drasil Razorfang on 31 May 2006, 19:44:00
No need to pressure yourself any further with my entry :D   You just move out of your house and get into your nice new one.  Its ironic however, seeing as I will probably be gone for the week you come back. :rollin  

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Title: Re: Zarathian Dagger
Post by: Stormraven on 31 May 2006, 22:30:00
Hey Drasil, I think the reason Talia commented on the term Skyrocketed is becasue it is not a Santharian apropriate term. No one in this world knows what a rocket is.



Title: Re: Zarathian Dagger
Post by: Ta`lia of the Seven Jewels on 01 June 2006, 13:51:00
Thanks Stormraven! You got it right. :)  

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Title: Re: Zarathian Dagger
Post by: Drasil Razorfang on 01 June 2006, 14:27:00
Editing.  I'm changing it to drasitcally increased.

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Title: Re: Zarathian Dagger
Post by: Bard Judith on 01 June 2006, 14:34:00
Not 'drasitcally' or even 'drasilcally', please - the word is 'drastically' :p  



Title: Re: Zarathian Dagger
Post by: Drasil Razorfang on 01 June 2006, 14:37:00
Personally I think the word should be changed to drasilcally.  :nod  

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Title: Re: Zarathian Dagger
Post by: Ta`lia of the Seven Jewels on 16 June 2006, 15:17:00
Sorry, Drasil, I can't comment the next three days for I'm away, leaving (hopefully) early for my parents house tomorrow and will not be back till Sunday. I can have a look on Monday though, but then this submission won't make it till this update.  

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Title: Re: Zarathian Dagger
Post by: Ta`lia of the Seven Jewels on 22 June 2006, 11:21:00
Somehow I don't get around. Maybe you bellring Artemis again?

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Title: Re: Zarathian Dagger
Post by: Drasil Razorfang on 22 June 2006, 11:23:00
I have bellrung Artemis 3 times.  She said that she is moving and that she is going to have troubles signing on for the next few days(that was 2 weeks ago) since then i have only seen her sign on 2 or 3 times, both for only a brief visit.  Sorry for the hastle.

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Title: Re: Zarathian Dagger
Post by: Ta`lia of the Seven Jewels on 23 June 2006, 00:57:00
Ok, I'll try to get around to it somewhen the next days, so that it is finished in time for the next update, ok?

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Title: Re: Zarathian Dagger
Post by: Drasil Razorfang on 23 June 2006, 08:33:00
Thank you Talia.  Seeing as I shall be departing in two days it may take a while for your comments to be integrated.  Sorry.

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Title: Re: Zarathian Dagger
Post by: Ta`lia of the Seven Jewels on 01 July 2006, 02:15:00
Drasil, I tried to comment on this dagger, but it is too controverse - the minute size you describe and that it can be hidden in contrary to the pride the Zharathian show. I can't say anyting to fighting styles as well. Just look though my few comments - and then you have to wait for Artemis, sorry :(  
Overview:

A small, ornate dagger originating from the Zarathian tribe of Aeruillin, this weapon's popularity has spread around the continent, along the numerous trading routes of the Zarathian tribe. Which it shares the same cultural significance as the Chaolian Sparth, this weapon is adapted to fit the Zarathian lifestyle. Also, because of its minute size, the weapon is commonly concealed by outsiders who have bought it from Zarathian traders as it can fit almost anywhere.

Grammar??:  „Which it shares...“  sounds weird for me

„minute size“ - I can recall a discussion elsewhere, that Artemis didn‘t want it to be a „minute“ (=very small) dagger, though she described it as having a „small blade“.  I couldn‘t find anything in the Zarathian entry, that it can be or should be „concealed“, in contrary, you should praise the dagger of your trading partner to push him in a good mood... and it can be used for disembowel fish, so it shouldn‘t be too small


Description:

The general term "Zarathian Dagger" can be broken down into four separate sub-categories, each of which performs a specific function in the Zarathian society.
I don‘t think, it is a good idea, to start with this diversification of the four daggers. I would propose to describe the main Zar. dagger here in detail , in its diversity, it different shapes and then add later in an extra paragraph the smaller forms children get in the beginning and add something about the training etc. If I want to read up something about the dagger, I want to have the real stuff in the beginning and not be forced to look for it. Now you give the smaller childrens daggers more room than the main one.

Zarathian Training Dagger: This dagger is the first received by a Zarathian at approximately 8 years of age. This weapon is a minute dagger, meant to fit the hand of a child, though it is used very rarely by adults. The weapon, unlike an adult's dagger, has no designs and consists solely of a tiny blade and a handle. The blade is straight and blunted to prevent injuries while training. The hilt, like the blade, is also very bland. This dagger is usually worn proudly by the child who owns it in a small sheath at the child's hip and is the ONLY weapon that the child will have until he or she reaches maturity.

Zarathian Specialized Training Dagger: Seeing as a Zarathian is allowed to choose the manner in which the blade of his weapon is shaped, this training dagger varies based upon the child. Usually awarded at the age of 12 or 13, the blade of this weapon is the only section that differs from a young child's dagger. Each owner is allowed to choose, within certain limits, the shape of the blade. These shapes range from straight blades, as found commonly on regular daggers, or an abrupt curve, forming a moonblade-like dagger. The dagger is also slightly larger than a regular training dagger, marking the child’s elevated status. The type of blade in which the child chooses, forces him or her to undergo additional training in the use of the new weapon. Smaller classes are derived based on each section. After completing this training, the child is allowed to receive the adults' dagger at the age of 14.

Zarathian "Arkh" Dagger: This dagger is awarded to a child on its fourteenth birthday, marking their passing to a full member of the tribe with all the rights, privileges and responsibilities of an adult. No matter the affluence of the wielder, it is always extravagant. The blade resembles that of the person's last dagger, however it is engraved, usually with pictures describing the person or a family crest.

The handle of the dagger is as extravagant as the blade. It is usually made of an expensive metal and set with precious stones. The handle is commonly engraved with a family crest at its center, surrounded by intricate designs.

The dagger is almost always worn in an equally as extravagant sheath seated on the wielder's hip allowing for easy access because, even though these weapons appear to be designed mainly for show, they are often kept very sharp and are used quite frequently.

The size of the dagger varies, however on average, they are kept pretty small. The weight of the dagger varies slightly in each gender, however men's daggers are considerably heavier than those of women.

Zarathian "Trade" Dagger: This type of Zarathian Dagger is often considered to be the daggers 'standard form' as it is used by all adult Zarathians for protection outside their own, personalized dagger. It is also the only form of the dagger that the Zarathians trade with outsiders. Consisting of an average sized blade and bland handle, this form of the dagger appears to be a larger version of the training dagger. Its blade is straight and without the markings found on other adult daggers. The hilt is a standard issue, commonly found in daggers.

Usages:

Within Zarathian Tribe:

When the Zarathian Dagger was created, it served the dual purpose as a mark of adulthood as well as serving as protection. In the Zarathian culture, when a child completes their training and is old enough to be considered an adult, they are awarded with an extravagant dagger by the elder members of their family. The dagger is then engraved to show areas of interest of the owner as well as with a family crest and other identifying markings. Seeing as the dagger is the sign of a child's maturity, rarely will you find anyone with out their dagger.
You are repeating here a bit what you have already on top

The dagger's appearance also fits very well into the Zarathian lifestyle. As traders, the Zarathians need an effective way to protect themselves without scaring off any customers because of intimidating guards or weapons. Because of its petite size, the dagger can easily be hidden in a saddle bag, or on a mule, allowing the Zarathian to feel protected, yet prevent others from knowing.

I don‘t think, this is as Artemis envisioned it. Showing of your dagger must not be threatening in a society, where danger waits at every corner.

Other Aeruillin Tribes:

As the Zarathians are a trading people, it is only natural for the use of their dagger to have spread along trading routes all across the continent. Because of its bantam size, the weapon naturally became used by cutthroats to liquidate targets as it can be concealed almost any where.

Don‘t think, that this fits to the Zarathian sense of pride
However, despite its exploitation by theses assassins, the dagger also seduced merchants, farmers and women into its usage as it offered efficient protection, while allowing the proprietor to appear innocent and unprotected, which in turn led to prosperity for the people in theses various lifestyles.

Seeing as Zarathians usually display their "Arkh" dagger proudly, many began to wonder what purpose the extravagant weapon served. After many speculations by the general populace, it was believed that the daggers were a symbol of wealth in the tribe. Affluent people, not wishing to be bested by their Zarathian neighbors, began to imitate the "Arkh" dagger, dressing their own with precious stones and wearing it as proudly as any Zarathian to flaunt their wealth to any passer by. Soon, the weapon became as much of a marker for economical and social status as a crown or a large estate.

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Title: Re: Zarathian Dagger
Post by: Ta`lia of the Seven Jewels on 04 July 2006, 00:52:00
I talked to Artemis,  she is still very busy, but hasn't forgotten your dagger. With you not having too much access to the net right now, I fear, this has to wait a bit longer still.

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Title: Re: Zarathian Dagger
Post by: Artemis on 10 November 2006, 11:16:05
*Gasps all around*

Could Artemis ACTUALLY BE DOING SOME SANTHARIAN WORK?

Yes she is!!!

Teeheehee... aside from my moving house, I worked solidly for two months, went to Greece for five weeks, started Uni again, and over that six months or so researched, compiled and wrote my final year dissertation. I handed that in a week or so ago and am slowly edging myself back into Santharia. Artimidor will never be able to get rid of me, no matter how long I disappear for!

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Overview:

A small (not small, reasons given later!),  ornate dagger originating from the Zarathian tribe of Aeruillin, this weapon's popularity has spread around the continent, along the numerous trading routes of the Zarathian tribe. Which it shares the same cultural significance as the Cholian Sparth, this weapon is adapted to fit the Zarathian lifestyle. Also, because of its minute size (it's not minute - minute conjures up a feeling of something very tiny indeed. It is an average sized dagger used for everyday tasks by the Zarathians - such as gutting fish, cutting large bundles of rope, cutting their bread for sandwiches and slicing meat. A "minute" dagger would result in a lot of cursing and not much cut meat!),  the weapon is commonly concealed by outsiders who have bought it from Zarathian traders as it can fit almost anywhere.

(I'd say more that it is recognised as a special dagger, crafted to perfection and as I mentioned in the main entry itself it is bought by assassins and thieves - but this should not be due to it being very small, but because they are recognised as being of the highest quality, with the sharpest blades that are slow to dull, elaborate carvings etc.)

Description:

The general term "Zarathian Dagger" can be broken down into four separate sub-categories, each of which performs a specific function in the Zarathian society.

(Talia has mentioned this already, but the dagger itself really need to be explained as one. The childrens daggers can be mentioned once the main dagger itself has been described).

Zarathian Training Dagger: This dagger is the first received by a Zarathian at approximately 8 years of age. This weapon is a minute dagger, meant to fit the hand of a child, though it is used very rarely by adults. The weapon, unlike an adult's dagger, has no designs and consists solely of a tiny blade and a handle. The blade is straight and blunted to prevent injuries while training. The hilt, like the blade, is also very bland. This dagger is usually worn proudly by the child who owns it in a small sheath at the child's hip and is the ONLY weapon that the child will have until he or she reaches maturity.

Zarathian Specialized Training Dagger: Seeing as a Zarathian is allowed to choose the manner in which the blade of his weapon is shaped, this training dagger varies based upon the child. Usually awarded at the age of 12 or 13 (say 12, because then a good 2 years can be taken to get used to the shape of the blade), the blade of this weapon is the only section that differs from a young child's dagger. Each owner is allowed to choose, within certain limits, the shape of the blade. These shapes range from straight blades, as found commonly on regular daggers, or an abrupt curve, forming a moonblade-like dagger. The dagger is also slightly larger than a regular training dagger, marking the child’s elevated status. The type of blade in which the child chooses, forces him or her to undergo additional training in the use of the new weapon. Smaller classes are derived based on each section. After completing this training, the child is allowed to receive the adults' dagger at the age of 14.

(These two need to be after the main dagger is described. You could mention with regards to the blade that one edge tends to be serrated - even if only slightly so. That way when a sawing action is used when cutting meat/bread etc it would be a lot easier - also a serrated edge would be practical in the eyes of the Zarathians).

Zarathian "Arkh" (Not Arkh please! Such a use of the word would be practically blasphemous and also it really should just be known as the Zarathian Dagger since there is only one type. Earlier creations such as the small childrens version would not be classed as an official Zarathian Dagger) Dagger: This dagger is awarded to a child on its fourteenth birthday, marking their passing to a full member of the tribe with all the rights, privileges and responsibilities of an adult. No matter the affluence of the wielder, it is always extravagant (not to the point of being either gaudy or unusable however, always remember it has to be useable).  The blade resembles that of the person's last dagger, however it is engraved, usually with pictures describing the person or a family crest.

The handle of the dagger is as extravagant as the blade. It is usually made of an expensive metal and set with precious stones (No gems - explained below). The handle is commonly engraved with a family crest at its center, surrounded by intricate designs.

The dagger is almost always worn in an equally as extravagant sheath seated on the wielder's hip allowing for easy access because, even though these weapons appear to be designed mainly for show (I wouldn't say that - anyone who knows of the Zarathians would surely know of their frequent use of their dagger),  they are often kept very sharp and are used quite frequently.

The size of the dagger varies, however on average, they are kept pretty small. The weight of the dagger varies slightly in each gender, however men's daggers are considerably heavier than those of women.

(No gems/stones etc. The Zarathians would find them impractical. Not to mention they would bite into the users hand after a while using the dagger. At the end of the day, yes their main dagger is carved intricately, but nothing other than carvings would be found upon the dagger itself and the sheath. The dagger is used daily for various tasks, as well as for self defense. I wouldn't say that they are kept pretty small, but perhaps that they do not go above the average size for a dagger. As I mentioned - small daggers would not perform the jobs the Zarathians would use them for.)

Zarathian "Trade" Dagger: This type of Zarathian Dagger is often considered to be the daggers 'standard form' as it is used by all adult Zarathians for protection outside their own, personalized dagger.  It is also the only form of the dagger that the Zarathians trade with outsiders. Consisting of an average sized blade and bland handle, this form of the dagger appears to be a larger version of the training dagger. Its blade is straight and without the markings found on other adult daggers. The hilt is a standard issue, commonly found in daggers.

(This needs to be deleted. Aside from the fact that the Zarathians own dagger would be used for protection, NOT a different one, the Zarathians would sell exactly the same type of daggers that they make for themselves. It would be fundamentally wrong to them to sell a different type - a LESSER type of dagger, not of high quality, that they use themselves? *Gasp* Never! The Zarathians have great pride in their trading. Only the best will truly do and therefore they will make and sell the best daggers.)

Usages:

Within Zarathian Tribe:

When the Zarathian Dagger was created, it served the dual purpose as a mark of adulthood as well as serving as protection. In the Zarathian culture, when a child completes their training and is old enough to be considered an adult, they are awarded with an extravagant dagger by the elder members of their family. The dagger is then engraved to show areas of interest of the owner as well as with a family crest and other identifying markings. Seeing as the dagger is the sign of a child's maturity, rarely will you find anyone without their dagger.

The dagger's appearance also fits very well into the Zarathian lifestyle. As traders, the Zarathians need an effective way to protect themselves without scaring off any customers because of intimidating guards or weapons. Because of its petite size, the dagger can easily be hidden in a saddle bag, or on a mule, allowing the Zarathian to feel protected, yet prevent others from knowing. (Once again - not petite AND no hiding it! The Zarathian would wear it openly with pride. They would like and want others to see it, especially when trading.)

Other Aeruillin Tribes:

As the Zarathians are a trading people, it is only natural for the use of their dagger to have spread along trading routes all across the continent (They ARE a trading people yes, but within their own city, and Zarathian Daggers are not likely to be traded anywhere other than Shan'Zarathan. One outside Shan'Zarathan would likely be a fake and therefore if one wants a Zarathian Dagger, one will have to travel to the city!)  Because of its bantam size (nope), the weapon naturally became used by cutthroats to liquidate targets as it can be concealed almost any where. However, despite its exploitation by theses assassins, the dagger also seduced merchants, farmers and women into its usage as it offered efficient protection, while allowing the proprietor to appear innocent and unprotected, which in turn led to prosperity for the people in theses various lifestyles. (I gave the reasons why it is popular above - not because of it having a small size though! Expert craftsmanship (nothing like it in Aeruillin) sharp blades that dull slowly etc.)

Seeing as Zarathians usually display their "Arkh" (remove Arkh, should just be their dagger) dagger proudly, many began to wonder what purpose the extravagant weapon served. After many speculations by the general populace, it was believed that the daggers were a symbol of wealth in the tribe. Affluent people, not wishing to be bested by their Zarathian neighbors, began to imitate the "Arkh" dagger, dressing their own with precious stones and wearing it as proudly as any Zarathian to flaunt their wealth to any passer by. Soon, the weapon became as much of a marker for economical and social status as a crown or a large estate.

(Make this into something (a "fashion") that happened once upon a time, not necessarily that happens now. You could say that people would try to show off their Zarathian Daggers to the Zarathians, and possibly trade them - and that the Zarathians were so unimpressed at the inferior blades they became a source of ridicule to those people instead of being a status symbol! Therefore the fashion died out. Something like that. And also people NOW really know what the daggers mean to the Zarathians.)

Fighting Style:

Fighting techniques with the Zarathian Dagger are usually taught to children starting at the age of ten (Should be eight - this is already mentioned in the Zarathian entry). The method taught encompasses all the uses of the dagger, showing children how to use both the element of surprise along with agility and strength. Seeing as Zarathians usually keep spare daggers concealed (they wouldn't have more than one, or if they did it would be rare and BOTH would be displayed proudly), the first thing the child is taught to do is to use the element of surprise. Seeing a weapon "magically" appear in the hand of a Zarathian often startles the opponent, providing ample time for the wielder to dart in with the blade before the enemy has time to protect himself. (Needs to be changed, Zarathian daggers are always obvious.)

If this should fail, the Zarathian is then forced to square off with the enemy and fight in a normal duel. Seeing as the weapon is so small (No, not really so small as you've probably picked up by now!),  dealing as much damage as possible per blow is evident as it takes much more effort to reach the enemy. Children are taught the locations of vital organs and weak spots along the chest, back, shoulders and legs. However, despite the deadly effect of each blow, the children are taught to treat combat as a dance, twirling and leaping past blows while darting in and out with the dagger, a feat that requires lots of practice. Also, along with this dexterity, the Zarathian is forced to provide considerable force behind each blow to make it more powerful, adding to the complexity of the dagger's use.

(The rest of the fighting style is fine, I like the whole blade dancing thing. Very elegant. You could mention perhaps that aside from learning how to fight there are also classes in "cutting meat effectively" and "easy rope cutting methods" so that everyday tasks are accomplished easily! Not everything (like aspects of butchery) is that easy).

History:

After the dagger made its way into the hands of the Zarathian men, it began to evolve to fit their lifestyle. Seeing as the Zarathians are a trading people, they needed a way to protect themselves and their wares without adopting an intimidating appearance which would lower their sales. The easiest way for them to accomplish this was to create a small weapon that could fit almost anywhere. This led to the daggers found among the Zarathian tribe to get smaller as time progressed and, as the size of the weapon shrunk, its popularity grew until eventually, almost everyone had a version of the customized dagger. (You could say it is never larger than average, but once again it cannot be really small because of the variety of tasks they use it for. Perhaps they did not have a dagger originally but large knives, and wanted some way to defends themselves, so crafted a dagger to suit their needs which was smaller than the knives they were using but large enough to still accomplish their tasks).

After many generations of popularity, the weapon began to integrate itself into Zarathian culture. Schools were opened to teach children how to use the weapon effectively. It also came to represent adulthood in the tribe. Once a child had completed their training, they would be awarded a dagger by their parents, showing that they could efficiently protect themselves and no longer needed to depend upon their parents for survival (Nice idea).The daggers that marked a child’s right of passage were extravagant, usually taking weeks to complete. They were engraved and personalized based upon the child’s interests and his heritage. Zarathians could tell many personal things, such as hobbies and beliefs just by reading the symbols engraved along the blade’s surface. These adult daggers became so important that they became used as a compliment. For example, during business transactions, compliments of the opposing party’s dagger were used as flattery in order to achieve a more favorable bargain.

Seeing as the dagger played a significant role in the Zarathian culture, outsiders soon became curious as to what the beautiful daggers represented. After much debate, the general populace came to the conclusion that the daggers represented wealth. Seeking to show their own wealth, the popularity of the dagger drastically increased as nobles and peasants alike bought their own to flaunt their wealth to the general populace. This caused a boom in the expansion rate of the daggers, causing their popularity to fan out from primary trade routes until it encompassed most of the continent. (The Zarathians would only trade their daggers from Shan'Zarathan therefore for someone in Shan'Furrionis to have one they would have had to travelled a long way! So perhaps they are not as dominating over the continent as you suggest. Also, other tribes would prefer other types of daggers or weapons for different reasons, don't blanket everyone all of a sudden with a need to have a Zarathian Dagger. They are not supposed to be commonplace!)

(I've picked it apart quite a bit - the problem is you seem to have got this idea of a really small dagger and concealment into your head, and it really doesn't fit with how the Zarathians are. They are shrewd, honest, and proud - they would not conceal their daggers! And to have them so small that they could not gut a fish would be impractical to them. As I said, you can have them just on the smaller size of average if you like, but really, no calling them "minute", "tiny", "very small" etc. You should also mention the Bladesmiths that make them - an honoured position in Zarathian society. They are mentioned in the Zarathian entry itself, perhaps you should give it a quick read over to refresh your memory of them. I'm sorry that you have to change so much, you do have some nice imaginative ideas here and as a whole it's well written.)

~Artemis

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Title: Re: Zarathian Dagger
Post by: Zellquor Astrain on 11 November 2006, 15:49:53
Well I think it is a very good idea. The way that the dagger is used to show maturity shows innovation and how important weapons are to the tribe.


Title: Re: Zarathian Dagger
Post by: Artimidor Federkiel on 30 November 2006, 05:52:58
Hey, Drasil! - What's with this one? It now has gotten the official queenly comments, so with a last update this one should be read to go, right?  :thumbup:


Title: Re: Zarathian Dagger
Post by: Drasil Razorfang on 30 November 2006, 09:53:23
I had completely forgotten about this entry.  I'll get to the corrections ASAP however(after the ones Ralhag left)


Title: Re: Zarathian Dagger
Post by: Drasil Razorfang on 30 November 2006, 11:21:50
Done.  Seeing as the entry is quite old, the writing itself is quite poor, but I edited in Artemis' comments as requested.  Should be ready for integration


Title: Re: Zarathian Dagger
Post by: Mirmec Rethindor on 05 December 2006, 09:27:54
This was an interesting read about the Zarathian Dagger from a cultural standpoint. What we don't see are detailed descriptions of stances or postures associated with the cultic dagger. Other than the overuse of the word extravagant, we never really get an idea of the shape of the blade, the materials used or the craftsmanship besides the family crest/icon on the hilt.

What would really help you is a study of the parts of a sword or dagger, it would give you a better vocabulary to explain the heft, hasp and hilt of the dagger. It would even be very interesting to know does it have a curved blade (one which would aid in hand to hand combat slinging off sword points) versus a regular straight as an arrow stiletto blade. Still there are historical precedents for the type of blade described, so it was very good you had the burial blade, and the age of adulthood blades mentioned also. Really reaffirms the tribal concept of the Zarathian Dagger.

For a rough draft it is a good outline, for a finished entry it would be lacking. But this is a valuable addition and gives us insight into the values of the Zarathian tribesmen (and traders).


Title: Re: Zarathian Dagger
Post by: Drasil Razorfang on 05 December 2006, 10:05:11
Landre, I wrote this in the end of eight grade, of course it isn't going to be up to the standards of other more recent entries that I am putting up.  Also, the blade is described as a dagger and specicifities that differ it from such are listed.  If the honestly has no idea what a dagger looks like, we have an entry for it.


Title: Re: Zarathian Dagger
Post by: Mirmec Rethindor on 05 December 2006, 14:05:35
I am aware of what a dagger looks like in this human world of earth, however we are talking about another realm. Knives have many shapes and form, some are one edged, some are two edged, some are flat blade, some are stiletto, some are three sided, and some are rounded.

It really doesnt matter your age, if you submit something you can always hone the image a little clearer.

To say duel, what does it mean to you? It is generic and vague, try to be more specific and you will get your point across better (pun intended). :rolleyes: