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1  Santharian World Development / The Santharian Bestiary / Re: Horned Drake - part two (post comments here) on: 15 July 2002, 13:25:00
Yay, thanks :)

Not sure how many of those things I'll be doing though, sure took a nice chuck out of my free to allocate time over the few days I did it, heh. Maybe when I stumble across something I find interesting and can't help but try doing :)  

2  Santharian World Development / The Santharian Bestiary / Re: Horned Drake - part two (post comments here) on: 12 July 2002, 14:16:00
So, any more comments for this before it's "ready"?

I realize a few things could be added (content for bottom 5 heading things), but I'm not sure how to proceed, or if it would be better to wait till the surounding areas (like Bluesteel) are developed more

3  Santharian World Development / The Santharian Bestiary / Re: Horned Drake - part two (post comments here) on: 09 July 2002, 21:51:00
Oh I'm aware of that, I just stuck them all together because I didn't have any content for any of them - yet :)

Will edit them into separate headings if I add content to one or more of them.

4  Santharian World Development / The Santharian Bestiary / Re: Horned Drake - part two (post comments here) on: 09 July 2002, 05:17:00
No, didn't say heavy, I wasn't sure what word would fit. And okay, that sounds like a good idea :)

No existing history I'm trampling on with Bluesteel and such?

5  Santharian World Development / The Santharian Bestiary / Re: Horned Drake - part two (post comments here) on: 08 July 2002, 22:34:00
Rayne: Thanks, means a lot on my first real content post 8)

Talia: English is my second language, had it in early school and all (think from 5th grade or so), but picked it up more from messing with computers and eventually getting on the web ;)    I'm curious, where did my language get too heavy? I don't realize it myself, I try to stay away from potentially confusing stuff, but obviously not too well

You're suggesting some more potential territory for these fellas? Since I'm pretty much clueless to all the geographical locations you mentioned, any link to a map page or description would be appreciated, hehe

It's pretty late and I was just quickly passing by to fix my post, I'll have a look again late Monday or if not that, then Tuesday :)  

6  Santharian World Development / The Santharian Bestiary / Horned Drake (complete entry!) on: 07 July 2002, 15:13:00
Okay, I've edited this to fit in one thread, it doesn't load on my side when I try to edit, but it does seem to update, so it apparently works :)  

Took me a while and sure seems to take up some space, but details details, aye? I'll appreciate any comments or suggestions for edits, and add or subtract anything to make this thing fit to whatever is an appropiate size  

(Note: On the page describing the zeiphyrian forest, Horned Drakes are mentioned about half way down, but link to the Horned Dragon page. As it is explicitly mentioned that lesser drakes inhabit this area the link probably needs to be updated. www.santharia.com/places/...orests.htm )


Horned Drakes are among the most common of all dragonkind, and near the bottom of the dragon/drake food chain. Despised by their distant and great cousins, Horned Dragons, and commonly thought of as simple food by other great drakes, their lives are harsh and often cut short. They remain fairly numerous as they have taken to having many young.

The average age of Horned Drakes is around 130 years, mostly due to the many that fall victim to larger predators. If not killed by others, they can live to past two centuries. Very rarely a Horned Drake can cross the 300 years mark, most often from being the leader of a great family group, a successful raider and superior in strength to other of its kin.

Commonly, Horned Drakes range from 4 to 6 peds with the tail, and have wingspans of similar dimensions. They are above average fliers, good at soaring low to keep them selves from being spotted, and almost always good at finding hiding places.

They possess no known speech, magic, or breath weapons, and only one special ability. For most the time, they stay out of sight and try to bring extra food to their lairs for periods where they fear greater drakes might be hunting nearby.


Horned Drakes, obviously, have horns. A lot of horns. The most common and recognizable horns are groups of small to medium-sized horns on the sides of the back of their head, along with a few medium and a single large spike at the end of their tail. Often smaller horns line their back, shoulders, parts of their feet, and occasionally running from the tip of their tail up their sides till they join the middle row of horns close to the hind legs. They are most commonly dark brownish, adjusted slightly depending on its habitat, more dusty yellowish for certain mountains, more dark greenish for woodsy areas.

The body is extremely muscular and flexible, to support the tough scales and many horns. The tail is one of the primary weapons, along with the usual talons and great, big, pointy teeth. Among lesser and greater drakes, however, it is still fairly small, and even well-built a Horned Drake will be in serious trouble if cornered by a dragon, or even certain other lesser drakes. Most of its armory is used against the larger prey it hunts, less effective for defense against larger enemies.

   Special Abilities

Like Horned Dragons the Horned Drakes are fairly primitive regarding magic, speech, and such, but have one interesting special ability. They have no magic whatsoever, except the ability to morph their shape and texture to imitate a rugged mountainside or a large dead tree. This is an obvious self defense mechanism to avoid the larger drakes and dragons that prey on them. However, it is far from perfect, it takes up to a full minute for a Horned Drake to finish the transformation, and very thorough predators that get up close have a chance to detect the change. It's mostly useful if the Horned Drake spots an enemy at a distance or is warned. Often, if faster than the oncoming enemy, they will choose to flee instead. With Horned Drakes being only mediocre fliers, this ability does see some use.


Most of the Horned Drakes can be found in the northern part of the kingdom of Santharian and in large parts of the Land of the Kuglimz, occasionally as far north as the Imlith Mountains. The greatest concentration of them can be found in the Tandala Highlands, the Warnaka Highlands, around Dragonmaw, and slightly further north. Here they are somewhat hunted by the Greater Drakes, and as such small amounts of Horned Drakes have moved further north, to the Mountains of Oro and the Celeste Mountains. An decent sized group also inhabits the Zeiphyrian Forest, but has no real contact to the main body of Horned Drakes; this group has been isolated since the population in what is now known as the kingdom of Santharia became great enough to push the drakes further into mountains and the occasional forest.


Various forms of deer and other mid-sized mammals in or close to mountains make up most the average Horned Drake's diet. In the mating seasons, raids on villages or farmland add some cattle, sheep, horses, goats, and even the occasional humanoid venturing too far from protection, but this is fairly rare. In meager times, Horned Drakes sometimes attempt to hunt smaller mammals [rabbits, dogs, add some other small named Santharian critters here I don't know the name of], but are rarely successful due to the relative size difference, and the effort required for such a small amount of nutrition.


Paranoia is part of mostly every day in the lives of Horned Drakes; especially in mountains with many other, and larger, drakes and dragons. They hunt mostly at dusk or dawn, flying low, using their good eyesight to track down prey and spot predators in time. Often Horned Drakes live in small family groups, a bonded male and female(s) along with any young still under their protection.

Young female Horned Drakes can stay with their parents for quite a few years, up to three decades, where their growing sense of independence urges them to finally leave the nest to prove they can survive on their own. After they hit sexual maturity they develop a sense for when surrounding conditions would permit a mating migration (more on that later).

Males, on the other hand, tend to be kicked out of the nest after 15-20 years at the most. They slowly develop territorial needs, and conflict can arise between young males in the family group. Especially in larger groups with a male and multiple females, where rarely, premature sexual drive in the young males can make them approach young females born by other mothers in the group. Any behavior like this results in the immediate rejection of the male(s) involved from the family and nest. Young males rejected from the nest prematurely rarely survive long.

A family group can last for more than a century, in rare cases more than two. A bonded couple does not fly off when mating migration occurs, but does mate again every few mating cycles, after their current young have mostly left the nest.

Horned Drakes almost exclusively live in caves, they have even been known to improve on "caves" too small to truly be called that, digging deeper if possible. The few non-mountain lairs tend to be located in rocky areas in dark parts of forests and hillsides, more commonly dug out, but still mainly in rocky caves of some sort.


Horned Drakes have somewhat adapted to living in the shadow of Horned Dragons and other dangers in their typical habitats, and as such seek out mating partners rarely. Horned Drakes reach sexual maturity around age 40, and remain fertile up until age 120. Mating season only occurs once or twice every decade, and most the mature horned drakes migrate temporarily to nearby islands to avoid attracting more attention from the larger dragons while occupied with seeking out mates. The migration takes place with as little visibility as possible, and the drakes tend to fly very low or even walk for several leagues in especially dangerous areas to avoid being spotted.

The goal of these migrations tends to be either the Isles of Quios, or more commonly the Isles of R'unor (the Zeiphyrian group have abandoned this tradition entirely and no longer travels any large distances). In particular the island of Grakor'reesh in R'unor is the target for the Horned Drakes while they mate. Here the females settle in various caves and other hideouts on the island, while some of the more daring males go on raids against the city of Bluesteel located there. The R'unorians have gotten used to this over time, and the city is now a fortress of technologically advanced dragon traps and weapons. A Horned drake who can survive and return with some sort of token from the city or surrounding lands, proving they've faced the defenses and lived, becomes the target of affection for any amount of females he chooses to impress.

In the meantime, weaker males and females, who neither have much chance to participate in the raids or become courted by victors, track each others down for a more mundane meeting. This is also the way those Horned Drakes staying on the mainland procreate. In both the glorious and more mundane mating practices, the male seeks out a female and must prove his strength (in addition to bringing back some sorts of trophies, even if not a true raider) by various challenges put forth by the female. Horned Drake females tend to be as strong as or even stronger than the males, so this alone is no easy task. Depending on her gesturing, the challenges might be a race between the two, having the male demonstrate physical strength (throwing boulders, knocking over trees), observing the male hunt down a powerful prey, or several other tasks.

At any time, if a competing male arrives, the challenge immediately changes to a fight between the two. The only exception is if the newcomer is a successful raider, in which case the female almost always turns the first male away without a fight. The actual mating process tends to take place deep in a cave or a similar out of the way place. After bonding through this sort of process the couple tends to stay together until the male is either defeated by a challenger (or simply turned away by a raid victor) or dies. Raid victor males can mate and bond with several females, and in this situation the whole pack stays together until the male is defeated by a greater raid victor or dies.

A pregnant female Horned Drake carries her young for about 11 months, and tends to stay hidden most the time, going out every now and then to stretch her wings, drink, and keep her hunting skills trained. Most her food is supplied by her mate, and she sleeps more often than normally. Because of predators Horned Drakes lay fairly many eggs in comparison to other dragons, averaging 8 to 12 per female. Eggs are vulnerable and very valuable to predators and curious wizards, and as such over time the hatching time has been reduced to only about a month. Many Horned Drake young perish in their early flying years, and typically only 3 or 4 make it to full maturity.

    Myth/Lore/Origin/Researchers/Anything else

Any comments or suggestions welcome here, I was thinking of something like a named Horned Drake made infamous for carrying off a high-standing citizen of Bluesteel, but remain fairly clueless as to customs and names in Bluesteel or the surrounding areas, not to mentioned dragon names themselves. Some mighty tamed Horned Drake story could work too, linked to some part of the history of the world.

I think I'll try a little less hard next time with the details and length, ehe :      

Edited by: Wilen Cloverheart at: 7/8/02 5:14:54 am
7  Santharian World Development / The Santharian Bestiary / Re: A creature needs a fitting home on: 04 September 2002, 20:59:00
Well, after a little time I might be able to help you out some with the Wyvern & Drake, but if I take too long do go ahead and just stick them somewhere :)  

Wilen Cloverheart - Registred Java Zealot

8  Santharian World Development / The Santharian Bestiary / Re: Ancythrian Shark. on: 11 July 2002, 21:30:00
Do you think the ~3 shark young surviving to adulthood will be enough to replenish the ones that die off during mating season, wander into another's territory, and kill themselves eating rocks? It sounds a little dubious :)  

9  Santharian World Development / The Santharian Bestiary / Re: O'quadar riding snake on: 11 July 2002, 21:17:00
All this arguing over points aside, I love the concept of this thing personally :)

A riding snake? Almost as good as riding giant sandworms on Dune :D   Definitely more fun than horses, heh.  

10  Santharian World Development / The Santharian Bestiary / Re: Just an excample on: 17 July 2002, 21:34:00
Lol, yeah, I ended up defining the warmblooded, that was the whole sad point, hard to mess with terms this way :)

If we call the chemicals magic, then maybe it can still be coldblooded in some weird funky way :eek

Either way, terms are terms, we just make them up and discuss the best. Nothing is impossible :b  

Wilen Cloverheart - Registred Java Zealot

11  Santharian World Development / The Santharian Bestiary / Re: Nice idea on: 13 July 2002, 10:52:00
Well, true, the earthly definition of coldblooded is like that, and yeah, on Earth no coldblooded animal could survive in the sort of environment mentioned here.

I think the point is that since we're building a separate world, we have the right to slightly redefine some terms. Like, some arctic coldblooded animal could heat itself up in the sun and when nice and toasty, use excess heat to somehow "charge" some chemicals in its body that allows it to release heat from the chemicals when it needs it.

Of course, that might actually end up classifying it as a warmblooded animal after all..

Either way, coldblooded or warmblooded, the animal could survive using some sort of technique like the one described here. I suppose we just need to agree on if we should call the thing coldblooded, warmblooded, or some fancy word meaning hybridblooded.. err, yeah.

That make any sense? *scratches head*

12  Santharian World Development / The Santharian Bestiary / Re: Nice idea on: 12 July 2002, 21:08:00
Hear hear :)

If it could exist anywhere, including off the Earth, it could exist here.

13  Santharian World Development / The Santharian Bestiary / Re: Crevice Hawk (Working Name, perhaps final) on: 11 July 2002, 21:23:00
May want to put the other creatures/plants in separate threads for comments and such, though initial thoughts could fit in here to get the ecosystem connected well. Sounds quite interesting to have a solid ecosystem past tundra, big fields of ice with nothing in them can be so.. boring :)  

14  Santharian World Development / The Santharian Bestiary / Re: Tarep on: 04 July 2002, 21:09:00
One tarep and many tareps sounds perfectly fine to me, though I don't see a problem with keeping tarep both singular and plural, if others prefer :)

Hmm, I guess that's not overly helpful ;)  

15  Santharian World Development / The Santharian Bestiary / Re: Cats on: 13 July 2002, 10:57:00
Nice overview, this should fit in great as a heading in the bestiary menu :)

Only one oddity that caught my eye. All the cats have exactly 30 teeth, no room for change there? Or more of an average 30 teeth thing? :)  

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