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1  Santharian World Development / Races, Tribes and Clans / Re: Ghereghut (Cave Tribe) on: 07 June 2012, 21:18:19
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I hope to one day have the entire Compendium written in TRULTRUL...

I second that grin
2  Santharian World Development / Languages and Runes / Re: Trollish - new Troll vocabulary here! on: 07 June 2012, 21:16:31
Phew, that was one intensive holiday... I'm back and see that you have done great work Val! I'll take a closer look at it either tonight or tommorrow! thumbup
3  Santharian World Development / Languages and Runes / Re: Trollish - new Troll vocabulary here! on: 30 May 2012, 08:05:11
Okay Val! I am working on more vocab for TRULTRUL these days and your question gave me another opportunity to think of more evil-sounding words thumbup cool

What do you think of this: making the trollish distinction between plain - mountain - water apparant in lexical form and then extrapolate the other types of land-phenomena (i.e. hils, islands, canyons, etc.) based on that.

Plain, field = SLOGH
Mountain   = KLOIGH
Water        = SLOSH
Lake, river = SLOSHSLOSH 
Hill             = KLOIGHSNI 'little mountain'
Snowy hill  = KLOIGHSNIMESH with plural KLOIGHKLOIGHSNIMESH
Island        = SLOGHSLOSH 'watery plain'
Canyon     = SLOGHKRAH 'broken plain'

So your answer would be KLOIGHKLOIGHSNIMESH ('little white mountains') for the placename, which is, I admit, pretty long. But then again, Trolls don't really deal in place-names so they would be very simple about what they mean without paying attention to language esthetics or ease.

Agree? huh

P.s. I really need to write a grammar part on Trollish vocabulary, there really is a system there as I am discovering. More will follow!
4  Santharian World Development / Languages and Runes / Re: Trollish - new Troll vocabulary here! on: 29 May 2012, 23:57:12
I'll get back to you on that this evening! grin
5  Organization and General Discussions / Non-Santharian Stuff: Life, the Universe & Everything / Re: Sage Artimidor's Natal Day of Celebration on: 28 May 2012, 20:42:16
ZAGHAKHA /celebratory hiss/  KHOLEM ARTI!
ZAGHAKHA /celebratory hiss/ KHOLEM ARTI!
GHROGHAKH /connective hiss/ KLOH TRUL ARTI!


literal translation:

Yummy day Arti!
Yummy day Arti!
Glory big troll Arti!


Mizzle's translation:

A joyfull day to Arti!
A joyfull day to Arti!
May you have glory, oh glorious Troll that is called Arti!
6  Santharian World Development / Races, Tribes and Clans / Re: Ghereghut (Cave Tribe) on: 25 May 2012, 19:36:52
If you are looking for a word for a leader among trolls or such, I created a word for that in my TRULTRUL entry: Klohtrul (big troll). You might be able to use that! thumbup

That brings me to another note however: in the language entry we discussed that the language of the trolls as we know it is only the language of the Kloighut. However, all of our tribal names of all the trollish tribes are in that same TRULTRUL, along with the vocabulary used in the religion entry on trollish beliefs. What should we do about that? I can imagine the Ghereghut having a language at least somewhat similar to that of the Kloighut, as a. the language is very slow to change and b. they have at least some shared development. The question remains, then, if the vocabulary of the different tribes are different as well, or the same at basis but with other linguistic developments influencing them. The influence of contact with another species, the Gob-Oc, would also have an impact on the trollish language alongside its cultural implications.

What are your thoughts on that Vesk? I'm okay with giving common TRULTRUL terms to the tribes and their hierarchy/beliefs (maybe it is a tool for scholars as they learn one set of terms from the Kloighut and then apply them to all tribes). Tribe specific elements would, however, neccesitate new vocab, in the TRULTRUL variant of that particular tribe. Or am I just overthinking this? shocked
7  Santharian World Development / Races, Tribes and Clans / Re: A seventh tribe of trolls? on: 24 May 2012, 05:06:15
I'm working on more Trollish vocabulary as we speak!  thumbup cool

I think Marghoghut would be appropiate yes; you read the entry correct that MARGHOGH at least has the death/die! part MARGH in it. The -OGH part is as of yet untranslatable, but looking at the other words it might: 

a. have a feminin quality to it (cf. MOGH = feminin, femaleness). Maybe something like 'Lady Death' would be a terrible poetic human translation which would make trolls puke in distate, but it approaches the semantic load a little bit. 

b. be a further developped form of an early MARGHGHRUAGH "death fire/light" > MARGHRUAGH > MARGHROGH > MARGHOGH. I actually like this possibility better than a. as it hints both at the heritage of the troll language (i.e. it has had a history of sound change and historical simplification due to next to impossible consonant-clusters, GHGH > GH) and it describes better the idea of night as being the absence of light/fire.

I'm game for both interpretations, although I like the second one better. :)
8  Santharian World Development / Languages and Runes / Re: Trollish (TRULTRUL) on: 24 May 2012, 02:27:58
I added a bit to the Overview section, don't know whether to be long or brief about it, being an overview. How's this? huh
9  Santharian World Development / Races, Tribes and Clans / Re: A seventh tribe of trolls? on: 22 May 2012, 02:45:14
I'm working on the question off dialects or offshoots of the TRULTRUL spoken by the Kloighut, maybe this seventh tribe, in addition to the Ereghut Trolls might be two early offshoots of TRULTRUL, so that the language is somewhat alike but has some characteristic differences, probably related to the different types of body and surroundings. What do you think?
10  Santharian World Development / Languages and Runes / Re: Trollish (TRULTRUL) on: 21 May 2012, 03:36:13
Thanks Vesk! It's good to be working on Trolls again, isn't it? grin

Art, how's this?
11  Santharian World Development / Races, Tribes and Clans / Re: Kloighut trolls (Mountain Tribe) on: 19 May 2012, 23:25:19
Hmm, that is a very valid question... *looks about with a frown of deep thought*

If you are me, and I am you... That means that we/I are the only one helping those poor trolls get their proper entries! I don't want to do all that work myself!  :P

Your basic idea about the Kloighut is exactly what I envisioned! It fits so smoothly into the language entry that I wrote that it is now my turn to wonder whether we are indeed not one and the same person!
12  Santharian World Development / Languages and Runes / Re: Trollish (TRULTRUL) on: 19 May 2012, 23:22:22
Added the Overview section, where I discuss the state of current research!  thumbup

What do you think? It think it has shaped up quite nicely  cool
13  Santharian World Development / Races, Tribes and Clans / Re: Kloighut trolls (Mountain Tribe) on: 19 May 2012, 18:59:44
Wow, Hi Vesk! Long time no see  grin I just returned here not more than a month ago, after an absence of 5 years... I've been working on the Troll language the past weeks, it is almost finished and is centered around the language spoken by exactly the Kloighut Trolls you are posting on now! It must be fate...

Welcome back, Vesk, I'm on hooliday right now but I'll comment on your enty as soon as possible thumbup Go Trolls!
14  Santharian World Development / Languages and Runes / Re: Trollish (TRULTRUL) on: 16 May 2012, 07:50:39
I inserted your comments thumbup grin

Mina, what do you think? Is it necessary to add a part about the lack of proper grammatical analyses in the Trollish field of study?
15  Santharian World Development / Languages and Runes / Re: Trollish (TRULTRUL) on: 16 May 2012, 04:47:48
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Looks like all questions on this fascinating tongue are left unanswered
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 :D

Thanks for the praise, I must say that I couldn't have done it without the great comments by Mina. I'll incorperate the comments right now  thumbup

Mina, there hasn't been a lot of research on trollish, but you are right, some things about troll grammar might be said when analysing the samples of text in Mizzle's book. I wanted to evoke the sense that research on Trollish had been a dead end study until Mizzle arrived with his comprehensive phonological work, and that this happened quite recently, so that the study is still in an infantile phase. Might be something for future research  :)
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