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31  Santharian World Development / Places and Map Design / Re: Manthria Resource Maps on: 30 June 2011, 00:36:23
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The icons are too similar looking, I can't tell them apart. Tried to find out, what for minerals you added at Griffin's Marl and had a hard time.

I noticed this as well.  When the map is its full size its easy to tell the icons apart, however, when I shrank it so that it would be a size appropriate to post, it lost its distinctness.  

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Personally I also don't think that the way the layers display the mineral information is very clear. Practically whole mountain ranges are covered and how large the mineral resources really are can only be very vaguely guessed.

Fair.  How large mineral resources are can only be really guessed at anyways as almost none of the entries provide an idea of how big deposits are.  Would it be possible for me to take some liberty in this department?

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1) Make sure that we have all icons available we need to use on the map. Judy back then offered that she'd help out with drawing more icons. That would be great.

I don't think this is necessary.  Fox has icons for all but one of the mineral resources in Manthria.  I already created an icon for the remaining mineral based on Fox's other icons.

Also, for the other three maps, do you want them to be done with the icons like the mineral maps?
32  Santharian World Development / The Santharian Bestiary / Re: Tuffchafer beetle, for Valan on: 29 June 2011, 19:41:27
I'm not sure if your solution for where the females live while their grub is growing makes sense.

If they are living in a small food burrow off to the side, don't they get trapped inside of it when the grub grows to the full size of the main burrow and pupatates(sp?)?

I think it would make more sense for them to have separate but conjoined burrows.  That way the mother is still capable of going about and doing her business while still being close to the grub.  What do you think?
33  Santharian World Development / Magic in the Lands of Caelereth / Re: Magic Commandments: Discussion Questions 8, 8A and 9 on: 29 June 2011, 19:36:24
It sounds like everyone is in agreement about 9.

So is this the part where it gets summed up and put into an axiom?  I'm still not used to this idea of turning magic discussions into tangible entries.   :P
34  Santharian World Development / Places and Map Design / Re: Manthria Resource Maps on: 28 June 2011, 01:40:31
Valan pointed that post out to me as well Dek.  Thanks.

I've finished the Minerals map as well and attached it below so I guess the whole batch is now ready for comments.  
35  Santharian World Development / The Santharian Bestiary / Re: Tuffchafer beetle, for Valan on: 27 June 2011, 16:57:38
It's no problem Seth.  Hope you feel better soon!
36  Santharian World Development / The Santharian Bestiary / Re: Tuffchafer beetle, for Valan on: 27 June 2011, 07:49:35
hey seth!  I've got a few comments from my end.

-Please make the overview longer.  Two sentences is insufficient.

-Can you please provide a definitive size?  You mention that it is rather large, but at the same time say it is small enough to fit into a human hand.  Seeing as R'unor already has beetles that grow larger than a human, I'm sure you can figure out why this is problematic.

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They are a pale, ashy grey in colour, flecked and spotted with darker spots, which are slightly raised, giving the shell of the beetle a grainy, bumpy feel.

Spotted and spots is repetitive.

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and it certainly reinforces the idea that it is not a good idea to touch them.

Idea and idea

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They have small antennae with fan-shaped appendages at the end, which are opened when the beetle is excited, and often accompanied by a hissing-squeaking sound which is the Tuffchafer’s only vocalisation.

You have some grammatical issues in this sentence.

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The jaws are not proportionately very big, but quite strong, and capable of making short work of most local vegetation.

There should be an "are" after the but.

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The grub of a Tuffchafer is much harder to see, as they spend their time below the surface of the ground, in burrows around the smaller vents that dot the flanks of the two R’unorian volcanoes.

Please remove the second comma.

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They are a large grub, over a palmspan long and as thick as an adult’s thumb.

An adult what?

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They are generally quite hot to the touch, and once they start to cool down, out in the open air, they invariably curl up and die.

Remove second and third commas.

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which positively thrive in the baking heat under the ash around volcanic vents.

Positively isn't the right word here.

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The grubs secrete a caustic substance which seems to be leached from the ash they live in, that burns the skin like fire.

The way you have your clauses arranged in this sentence makes it read awkwardly.

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They can fly quite far but don’t often go further than the surrounding Tinderwood forest, as they breed in the volcanic ash near the volcano’s vents, and so cannot stray far from their burrows.

Volcanic and volcano.

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The best food is carried back to burrows, often over large distances, to be fed to their grubs or stored in small side-burrows which act as food stores for hard times

Need to establish what "their" is.

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They don’t forage cooperatively, but occasionally a Tuffchafer allow neighbouring beetles to steal from their food stores if the stores are unequal.

Allow should be will allow.  Also stores and stores.

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Some beetles gave even been observed carrying food from their stores and spacing it around neighbouring burrows

Gave should be have.

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Tuffchafers are social insects, building individual burrows in the sides of volcanoes, particularly Hel’fik’s Hearth.

This sentence contradicts itself.  Saying they build individual burrows doesn't make them seem social.

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The burrows are clustered together in neatly spaced rings around the pressure vents found along the slopes of the volcano, often as within a couple of peds of the vent itself, depending on the state of the ground.

No as

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They do often have to relocate their burrows, though, and the mortality rate for grubs seems to be quite high – not through being burned to death, but from suffocation, if the entrance of the burrow is blocked.

Remove the last comma.  You've become very comma happy since I last read one of your entries.   :P

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Near the top of the burrow are a number of small side-chambers, containing food stores, which appear to be held relatively in common by neighbouring beetles.

Earlier you said they had individual stores.

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When encountered they are not aggressive or particularly evasive, as they have few natural predators, owing to their extraordinarily tough carapaces.

Again, too many commas.

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Thus it seems the brightly coloured underside of the beetle is meant to frighten

Thus should have a comma after it.

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Breeding occurs irregularly, whenever food supply is particularly bountiful.

There should be a the after "food supply"

-Does the  mother make a special burrow when she lays the egg?  If not, where does she go to live after the grub hatches?  Also, does the mother stay and guard the egg or leave it?

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The grubs, of course, really can burn at a touch, which is perhaps where this belief comes from, fuelled by the brightly coloured threat display of Tuffchafers when provoked.

This sentence is awkward.

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Hollowed out Tuffchafer carapaces are occasionally used to make small boxes, but it loses much of its integrity  if the shape is changed too much, and it takes hundreds to make anything big.

This sentence is a run on.  Also, you need to define what it is.

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Sometimes the elytra are inset into leather armour at key points, to reinforce it. They are traditionally used to make a guard for the heart among R’unorian warriors, worn under the armour, and believed to be unfailing at stopping arrows.

This idea seems to be randomly tacked on the end of the paragraph.  Either incorporate it better or make it its own paragraph.

37  Santharian World Development / Magic in the Lands of Caelereth / Re: Krean Arcane Arts: Overview (déjà vu?) on: 27 June 2011, 05:10:57
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(vi) All things are interconnected – or as the Krean say: Connected is everything, to everthing else (Savere edor edora).

Second everything is spelled wrong.  Also, is the Krean language supposed to look like Latin?

-The point of the anecdote related by Coren confuses me.  Whose power exactly are we supposed to be impressed by?  If its the Priestesses', they failed so how is that impressive?  A Ximaxian mage would have been able to smite down whats-his-face with ease.  The Priestesses' inability to do so would make them a laughing-stock, not a power to be feared.  Or is the emperor's magic supposed to impress us.  If so, can you please make it more clear that he is casting magic?  Also, if he is the caster, it would be nice to have some background information on the Priestesses so we can better understand his strength.  For someone who is not well-versed in Krean history, having a group of Priestesses doesn't mean much to me.  To explain how powerful they are maybe include a sentence or two of some of the great feats they managed to accomplish using their magic.

-Your story is way to long to be "one of the most frequently quoted statements in Ximaxian history" in my opinion.  I don't think anyone is going to be reciting that entire narrative on a regular basis.  Perhaps create a noticeable division between the first paragraph, which is your assertion, and the rest, which is the evidence supporting it.  The assertion could then be the most quoted statement you mention.

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Thus the people of Nybelmar languished in millennia of peaceful splendour, growing forgetful of the dark times their land once knew. With the protection of the Krean gone, will the ancient evil that plagued Nybelmar rise again and terrorise Caelereth once more?

dun dun dun dunnnnn  ;)

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Magic is complex – so in explaining it clarity is important.

Should be "clearly" or "with clarity".

-I'm having trouble understanding your explanation of the First Wave.  What part of the cycle is the first wave?  When you say our universe is manifesting in one of the expansion cycles do you mean to say exists in an expansion cycle?  Is the First Wave supposed to be the first of these expansion cycles to ever occur?  Is that why its called the First?  If so, how do the Krean know that it will be followed by a return cycle and then rinse and repeat?  Since we exist in the first of these waves and we can't see the future, we have no evidence from previous times to reinforce this claim.

-You say we can think of the First Wave and the Web as the same thing, but your explanation of them has no overlaps.  I'm confused again :/  

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planetary consciousness perceives

Planetary consciousness sounds awkward and is a bit confusing.  Why not just say the "planet's consciousness?"  It's more clear and conveys the same point I believe.

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To continue with the same metaphor, Krean magic can exchange “threads” between Laces (or indeed between one Lace and various unrelated, “floating” clusters). It can also weave one Lace (cord) across, underneath or through a loop in another Lace – either in whole or in part.

Please spell this out in plain Tharian as well so its easier to understand.  When you explain everything using only metaphors people tend to get lost.

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The Krean conceive of an objective reality – i.e. that reality exists independently of our perception of it. Or as a Krean would say: Each reality exists independently of our perception of it. According to the Krean, consciousness pre-supposes existence: There is something – of which I am aware. There is (existence) something (identity) – and I am aware of it (consciousness).

Again, for the sake of clarity can you say something along the lines of "just because we aren't aware of something, doesn't mean it doesn't exist.  The infinite possibilities of the Web all are real and all exist simultaneously, but we only perceive one" here?

-Cite your quote in the third premise explanation.

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The spirit of debate and enquiry that lied at the heart of the system gave birth to its diversity and depth.

lay, not lied.  Unless the spirit of debate is deceitful...  :P

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One answer is that choice is already considered in the manifestation of a particular reality.

Explain what this answer means before you explain the other inconsistencies it creates.  You lose your reader to confusion if you do not.  Also, what school of thought is the proponent of this idea?

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Secondly, there are choices we make before we enter manifestation. These set the framework within which we choose once in manifestation.

Elaborate on this please so that we can understand what you mean.

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In the same vein, if the Krean mage is to exchange two possibilities, he must first communicate the alternative he has in mind to the First Wave.

Why?  The Web already contains every possibility that could ever happen so why do you need to convey this idea to the First Wave?  The First Wave has already created that idea.  It would seem to me that you just need to go out and "find it" and then erect your "scaffolding" so that you can switch them.

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To paraphrase A.R.,

I'm assuming this is a person whose name we don't have?  If so, can you change the clause that follows it to "an unnamed scholar/person whose blahblah"?

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   The Great Wall of Krath: These unassailable fortifications ward off Benderrath, Vaenath Plains and the Chyrakisth.

How can you ward off a geographical feature like plains?  I think this sentence needs to be reworded.

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Since time does not exist, since there is no barrier separating (the set of possibilities pertaining to) the past from (those pertaining to) the present, there can be no veil separating the past from the mage’s reach: he should be able to replace the past just as he can replace the present.

There should be an 'and' not a comma between the since clauses.

-I think that you should justify all the superlatives you use when referring to the Power of Krean magic.  Saying that its the most powerful magic ever restricts development, ect.  Plus, it is difficult to compare two different magic systems in terms of power.  

Your history section has made me interested in the Krean now.  They seem like they'd be an interesting tribe to work with.  Perhaps I'll have to dabble in that direction at some point in the near future.
38  Santharian World Development / Places and Map Design / Re: Manthria Resource Maps on: 26 June 2011, 03:08:42
I've mostly finished up the Minerals map as well but I have a quick question.

Mount Evermourn is listed as having a "wide variety of precious and semi-precious gem-stones."  This statement doesn't make much sense to me as various gemstones require drastically different conditions and parent materials to form.  Would anyone have a problem if I narrowed this range down to one or two gemstones?
39  Santharian World Development / Magic in the Lands of Caelereth / Re: Magic Commandments: Discussion Questions 8, 8A and 9 on: 25 June 2011, 23:14:45
I think you answered your own second question.  To continue your heat analogy, when you go to heat an object you can place it on a stove which indirectly causes a change in the car'all of your target.  This would be defined as "non-magic".  You are using an outside force to prompt changes within your target.

The other alternative would be to go in and alter the make up of the object to cause it to express "heat."  This method would be magic.  Here, you'd be directly toying with the object's car'all to produce your end result.  You require no additional aid from any source.

So basically, the difference between magic and non-magic can be summed up as direct changes vs indirect changes. 

Hopefully that made sense. 
40  Santharian World Development / The Santharian Bestiary / Re: Monh-rum on: 24 June 2011, 19:04:39
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The arctic amphibian measures about two and a half, to three and a half peds from mouth to the tip of its tail.

No comma

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In the water however, they've been seen using their limbs often to help them propel.

Comma after water

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Though how much the small limbs actually help the beast's swimming is up for debate.

I'm pretty sure this sentence isn't grammatically correct.  I think the though needs to be placed elsewhere.

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The creature's wide mouth is full of very small teeth, though its powerful jaws make good use of them

Though isn't the right conjunction here.

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However, the first thing one notice's when the creature's mouth opens is its wide blue tongue

no apostrophe

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This tough skin seems not only to protect the creature from the other inhabitants of the icelands, but from the hot water from the gotgavnynn network.

Icelands and g-thingy should be capitalized.  Also, Icetribesman should be capitalized as it is a tribal name.


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The most dangerous ability of the Monh-Rum is its bite. Its saliva has a fast acting paralytic effect on the area which was bitten.

Stick with the present tense.

-List its  speedy as a separate Special ability with its own description.

-choose whether or not you are going to capitalize Monh-rum and stick with it throughout the entry.  Don't flip flop back and forth.

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Though mostly seen on land, the creature is believed to spend most of its time in the water in the network of hot-springs that the ice tribes call the gotgavnynn.

Icetribes capitalized.  Got-thingy capitalized.  Please go through and capitalize Ice Tribes throughout.

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They've even been spotted in the summer sunning on ocean shores and islands.

Avoid contractions

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the monh-rum never strays more than a few peds from water. Only during the short summer does the monh-rum stray out of the water,

"stray out of the water" is repeated back to back here.

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gotgavnynn

capitalize.  I'm going to stop highlighting these.  Please capitalize throughout.

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This means that the beast is very rarely encountered and its habits aren't often seen

Avoid contractions.  Again, I'm going to stop pointing all these out.  Please go through and find them.

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It will also retreat to the water if it senses any danger, from potential hunters or predators

No comma

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Its often woven into the furs and pelts of the tribe's most prized warrior or leader, helping to protect them against blows.

Its should be it is.

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Using any part of the head is considered taboo by the ice tribes, and is thought to bring Aleshnir's ire upon those who use it.

I'd suggest removing the "upon those who use it" as it makes the sentence read repetitively.

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The rhom-oc orcs will occasionally harvest the poison if they think they can get enough of it, and use it to coat their arrows.

Rhom-oc should be capitalized.  There should be a comma after poison. 

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He spoke often and loudly of the Aleshnir being completely unable to enter his realm, for all her beasts' might.

No comma

A very nice job Pikel.  Most of my comments are simple grammatical fixes so if your qre quick yo ushould be able to get this into the next update.
41  Santharian World Development / Places and Map Design / Re: Manthria Resource Maps on: 24 June 2011, 17:10:52
Thanks for the help Valan.  Those should make map making much easier.

Any chance that you know which symbol is which mineral per chance?

Edit:  Completed Maps attached.

42  Santharian World Development / Places and Map Design / Manthria Resource Maps on: 24 June 2011, 04:53:25
I noticed in the Manthria Master Plan that you were looking for a map of the resources available in the province and thought I'd try my hand at it using my rudimentary GIMP skills.  Hopefully these are along the lines of what you were looking for.

If anyone notices anything that needs to be marked but isn't or is mismarked, please let me know and I can edit them.

Also, as I'm sure some of you have noticed, I haven't attached a minerals map at this point in time.  Unfortunately I've run into a bit of a snag in the creation of this map: I've run out of distinguishable colors and patterns to denote the various minerals present in Manthria.  I was wondering if anyone had any ideas as to how to get around this problem.  I can attach what I have done on the Minerals map thus far if you'd like to see that as well.  

Edit: Bah the pictures didn't come out right.  Let me tinker with them a bit to see if I can figure out where I went wrong.  
43  Santharian World Development / Brownie Development / Re: The Ethereal Void, the Memnoor Brownies and Their Magic: Discussion on: 24 June 2011, 01:33:05
Whoops.  That must have been accidentally switched back when I posted this.  I'll fix that now. 
44  Santharian World Development / Magic in the Lands of Caelereth / Re: Krean Arcane Arts: Overview (déjà vu?) on: 24 June 2011, 01:32:14
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45  Santharian World Development / The Santharian Bestiary / Re: Violet Sky-Dancer on: 23 June 2011, 06:05:55
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The Violet Sky-Dancer is a butterfly, one of the largest in the butterfly family native to northeastern Sihitara.

This isn't a grammatically correct sentence.  If you reword it so that it says "The Violet Sky-Dancer is one of the largest butterflies native to northeastern Sihitara" that problem can be fixed.

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The Violet Sky-Dancer is one of the most well-known butterflies in the Krean area, because the Violet dancers, a group of priestesses from the High Temple of Ankriss who serve as the guard of honor for the Warden of State, named themselves that after the Violet Sky-Dancers.

This is a run-on sentence.  Try breaking it up into smaller parts.

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two compound eyes

This description reads almost too scientific.

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The larvae of the Sky-Dancer, known as a caterpillar, have segmented bodies. They are tubular, with a head, thorax, and abdomen as its three segments. On the three thoracic segments there are three pairs of true legs, with four pairs of prologs on the middle segments on the middle of the abdomen and one pair of prologs on the last abdominal segment.

Again, this reads too sciencey.

-Overall, you did a pretty solid job on the Appearance section.  Well done.


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The special ability of the Violet Sky-Dancer is its flying. It flies using its wings, and in doing so, can migrate long distances.

Can you elaborate a bit more on this.  You mention that its wings are divided into two parts to allow it more graceful flight.  Details like that should be included and elaborated upon here.

-The habitat/behavior section needs to have a bit more information.  You describe where they live, but need more details on how they behave.  For this section try to describe what the butterfly would most likely be doing if an individual ran into it.  Does it travel in groups or by itself?  Does it like to flutter around aimlessly or is it always busy pollinating flowers?  Maybe it likes to relax and spread out its wings in the sun or instead prefers to hide away in the trees.  Is it afraid of people? or maybe it likes to land on their shoulders?  Details like that are what belong in this section.

Do this for the caterpillar as well. 

-In the diet section, you mention that they drink the nectar of purple flowers.  Could you be a bit more specific in this and provide a specific flower type?

Also, let us know what the caterpillars like to eat. 

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They also use chemical signals.

Again, too sciency.


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Violet dancers, a group of priestesses from the High Temple of Ankriss who serve as the guard of honor for the Warden of State, named themselves that after the Violet Sky-Dancers.

To elaborate on this section, perhaps provide a little story of how this group got inspired?  If not, at least explain what elements of the butterfly the dancers revere and attempt to emulate.

Overall, this is a really good start to an entry.  In general, you just need a bit more elaboration and detail in some of your sections to flesh it out.  Let me know if you have any questions!  :)
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