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61  Santharian World Development / Magic in the Lands of Caelereth / Re: Ximax Academy - Working Draft II on: 15 January 2010, 14:57:42
Just an update, Rayne:

I've started looking this over, but haven't finished going through it entirely yet. I'll post my comments once I've finished going over the whole thing.

Not really much to change, though.
62  Santharian World Development / Races, Tribes and Clans / Re: Elven Occupations on: 12 January 2010, 08:42:03
That works now! :)

Though you messed up a bit on your color coding. ;)

63  Santharian World Development / Races, Tribes and Clans / Re: Elven Occupations on: 12 January 2010, 08:35:15
Thank you, Fox! I had completely missed (or completely forgotten) that detail! I changed the entry slightly to reflect the difference you mentioned. It's colored above. Does this work better, or should I change it more?

Warriors: While many elven tribes have individuals who can work as warriors, very few tribes actually have a standing army or military of the sort. Warriors in particular, who tend to employ more hand-to-hand combat, tend to be fairly rare because the fighting techniques require strength that the elven form does not often grant, at least not to the degree of most humans, dwarves, and orcs. Elves also do not generally have room within the confines of their forest for this form of fighting. However, among some tribes who focus more on combat, like the Tethinrhim, this occupation is present (this tribe, in fact, has its own special class of warrior, called the Kaierian).

This still gives the impression that elves are weaker on average compared to humans. Personally, I would remove any issue concerning their physical strength and instead concentrate on the philosophical and spiritual reasons why they are rare, as their strength (greater than humans) would not be an issue.

64  Santharian World Development / Magic in the Lands of Caelereth / Re: Ximax Academy - Working Draft II on: 12 January 2010, 08:28:50
And with that addition, the entry is finished. It would be nice to get a few readings, for those who have a little time!

Yay!

I'll give it a full read-through later tonight. :)
65  Santharian World Development / Races, Tribes and Clans / Re: Elven Occupations on: 09 January 2010, 23:15:29
Just one quick note, since I've only roughly glanced over this...


Protectors/Fighters

Warriors: While many elven tribes have individuals who can work as warriors, very few tribes actually have a standing army or military of the sort. Warriors in particular, who tend to employ more hand-to-hand combat, tend to be fairly rare because the fighting techniques require strength that the elven form does not often grant. However, among some tribes who focus more on combat, like the Tethinrhim, this occupation is present (this tribe, in fact, has its own special class of warrior, called the Kaierian).

Elves are actually, on average, stronger than humans. While a lot of games tend to go for the 'fragile and weak' elves, and most people have that impression, Santh elves (and LotR ones, if I recall correctly) are stronger.

"In comparison to humans elves are stronger in spirit and in limb and have an exceptional constitution and endurance. " (from the elf entry)

66  Santharian World Development / Races, Tribes and Clans / Re: Elven Life and Development on: 08 January 2010, 15:01:04
And I didn't know it was possible for women to be ready to breast-feed without children/pregnancy. I would actually kind of be interested in hearing more. I mean, I have heard of milk nurses, but they had to have children (because they never stopped breastfeeding children, I think, they never stopped lactating). Is this what you mean?

It can be induced (even by women who have never been pregnant before), but not regularly or easily. There are drugs that can cause it, and it's possible to subconsciously 'force' the process by constantly thinking about babies (crying/hungry ones for instance), along well as simulating the process of suckling (through pumps, massaging, etc), several times a day. After a long while, this can allow for lactation. But if it isn't constantly maintained (simulating the process several times a day, every day), it ceases after 1-3 weeks and the process has to be started over.

So yes, for someone who is not the mother to be helping her to breast feed, she would need to have made a lot of effort to keep herself 'active'. In elven society, with few children, this is not likely, as it would not be wieldy to 'keep prepped' when there may not be a child except every few months/years.

67  Santharian World Development / The Santharian Bestiary / Re: Lightning Drake (For Seeker) on: 08 January 2010, 14:27:22
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Myth/Origin:
During the year of darkness following the Dragonstorm, myth weaves the tale of a great storm that raged over Thalambath. For weeks it showered over the city. The people called and cried for reprieve from the horrible thunderstorm that threw down lightning from dark and tumultuous skies, from the thunder that roared through the air. They prayed to Avhan to stop the endless storm, but as the storm arose from the depression and anxiety of the Thalambath people, he could not eliminate it entirely from the sky. Therefore, he gave the storm a more corporeal form, turning it into hundreds of drakes that fled to the nearby volcanoes, and there they have dwelled ever since. When storms again come to the area, the people of Thalambath say these dragons once again recall their violent origins, and take flight to chase the lightning.

Avhan is considered an omnipotent god, so he would not be one who 'could not eliminate it (the storm) entirely from the sky'.

On the other hand, he would make it a punishment for sins. You could instead say, "They prayed to Avhan to stop the endless storm, but as the storm arose from their sins, Avhan would not eliminate it entirely from the sky. However, hearing their cries, he chose to take mercy, and decided to give the storm a more corporeal form, turning it into hundreds of drakes that fled to the nearby volcanoes, and there they have dwelled ever since.  When the storms again come to the area, the people of Thalambath say these dragons are to remind them of their sins, and the dragons flit through the storm as a demonstration to those beneath of Avhan's power, as well as his mercy."



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68  Santharian World Development / Magic in the Lands of Caelereth / Re: Ximax Academy - Working Draft II on: 07 January 2010, 14:38:24
Well, sorry for not letting you know.

Anyway, regardless, I've gone ahead and looked over your edits now and everything looks fine to me, so no changes necessary. Sorry about the hassle.




BTW, @Rookie: I meant to ask this awhile back, but is there any chance you could add a mention of Thalambathian wizards in the Tower of Foreign Magics and Cultures? Considering that Ximax and Thalambath operate a joint research program (Ximax has an walled enclave in Thalambath), that you might mention that a sizable amount of Thalambathian wizards are found here, debating and discussing differences and similarities between the two systems--the two would likely be at a closer research level than Ximax has with other magics like Nybelmar etc, due to the similarities between the two magic systems. You could mention rumours of a portal in one of the Thalambathian rooms that leads to Thalambath, which I also mentioned in the Thalambath entry.
69  Santharian World Development / Magic in the Lands of Caelereth / Re: Ximax Academy - Working Draft II on: 07 January 2010, 14:20:36
The entry isn't going anywhere, Rayne. In fact it's moving at a far faster pace than many entries of this size and depth.

The deadlines are good for encouraging people to not procrastinate, but I don't think they should be so rigid that people cannot take extra time if necessary. Particularly during the holiday season, when many of us are quite busy with other things. I had several doctor appointments (one today even), Christmas Eve church and family gatherings, Christmas, two Birthday parties, and so on. I'm sure most people are also rather busy.

Sorry, but there isn't need to rush this. It will get done, and it is already well on its way. Don't worry so much about time and waiting. ;)

70  Santharian World Development / Magic in the Lands of Caelereth / Re: Ximax Academy - Working Draft II on: 07 January 2010, 14:09:31
Well, to be fair, you agreed that 'a few days sounds good', yet you gave a deadline of 'the next day'. That is one day, not a few. ;)

I will try and get it done in the morning if it will please you. :P

71  Santharian World Development / Magic in the Lands of Caelereth / Re: Ximax Academy - Working Draft II on: 07 January 2010, 14:03:01
I am, I'll try and get to it tomorrow, though that may not be until late night.
72  Santharian World Development / Races, Tribes and Clans / Re: Elven Life and Development on: 05 January 2010, 11:44:16
Do you feel the way I describe elven learning in this section provides a better explanation for the way elves learn? I tried to convey not only that education would be "slower" because of the process through which elves learn (seeing, hearing, and doing--not just hearing) and the notion of not only knowing what something can do, but what it cannot do. Essentially learning what a thing is at the same time learning what it is not. Think Taoism.

I'm fine with it provided that that style of learning is their 'desired' style of learning, rather than integral. In other words, can an elf learn in a human school, at the same speed as their human peers? I believe they should be able to. They should feel rushed, and want to keep examining things and learning more about stuff (example: elves would be the kind of person that goes to Wikipedia and ends up spending all day there because they keep clicking on new links and just can't stop reading and learning new things), but there shouldn't be any kind of incapability for them to learn at the same speed of humans.

So yes, I agree with how you placed it, provided that it is the culturally preferred method, and not physically required because of slower overall learning speeds.



Also, yes, I agree that elven magic would almost certainly not be taught in any kind of 'school' system.

73  Santharian World Development / Races, Tribes and Clans / Re: Elven Life and Development on: 05 January 2010, 10:11:29
How about developing elven magic academies in the elven forests rather than try to force an elf to learn at the human Ximax academy? If we're going to develop differences in magic practices, let's also create their own magic schools.

This is already a given. Despite the RP board having all elves go to Ximax, in reality, as Rayne's city entry now properly numbers, elves make up less than 1% of people in Ximax.

But, one step at a time.
74  Santharian World Development / Races, Tribes and Clans / Re: Elven Life and Development on: 05 January 2010, 09:55:51
There are a few instances where I disagree with Wren. The one addressed in this entry is the notion of maturing. Wren had elves maturing at a rate proportional to their age. I have, of course, found a differing solution. I'm not sure whether my solution is better or worse: perhaps some might comment?

I've always hated the idea that elves mature slower than other races. IMO, they should live longer, but not 'slower'. That makes them, frankly, seem very, very stupid and dull-witted. It's like saying an elf will take 4-6 years to learn what 2+2 means. Ugh! I think that if any 'slower' learning happens, it should be purely because they are spending more time doing it, instead of rushing through it, and that learning basic things shouldn't take them any longer than anyone else. They're just more inclined to 'dig beneath the surface', rather than humans, hence life-long learning, but not slower learning.

I would also like to remove the concept of elves taking 100-200 years to learn magic at Ximax. (though as Arti says, there should be very few elves there anyway), for the same reason. If balance has to be achieved on the RP board, I think restricting how old you can make elves is better than restricting how long they take to learn equivalent things.

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I also disagree with using Ximaxian magic terms to describe elven magic. As is hinted in this entry and my tree entry, I intend to use the notion of energies--inspired by a friend who, under the influence of shrooms, claimed to be able to see energy. The way he described it was kind of inspiring.

Agreed, I think we need to separate elven and Ximaxian magic much more than it is. When I came up with some new titles for Ximaxian mage levels (which is a few pages in on the magic forum), I tried to have Styrash be only an inspiration, and have the words have a proper human evolution to them instead of full on elvish.
75  Santharian World Development / Races, Tribes and Clans / Re: Elven Life and Development on: 05 January 2010, 07:25:47
Lovely entry as usual, Rayne, and certainly more elven separation from humans is needed. If you're planning on continuing on this project, you might want to consider taking Wren's 'Concerning Elves' post from a few years ago and expanding/turning it into an entry. Last time I wrote an elven character on the RP board, I used that for reference moreso than anything currently on site.

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