I know I haven't been around at all in a long time, my life has been a troublesome matter- But I love this. It's cute and spot-on. Thank you for this wonderful illustration of my annoying little butterfly, Seeker.
I assure you I am working everything out, little by little, and have read and re-read all of the comments thus far. Everything has been very helpful, thank you very much guys. However, my progress on this will once again be slowed down just a tidbit more as my computer turned itself off while working on this the other day and has, since, been little more than a giant brick. So I have been reduced to borrowing my friend's laptop when I'm around him. Right now I do not have time to respond to all of the comments, but rest assured that I have taken them all into account and am applying them accordingly. Again, thank you all very much.
And, yes, Coren. Sure. But I have the Kasumar'ii to rewrite as well after I am done with this monster.
Honestly, I don't exactly remember why I changed the spelling of Queprur. Probably something to do with their worship of the Goddess, and the fact that they see her in the light that the elven culture sees her in. Maybe I just thought I could get away with it. Dunno. Though, I do like the way Qu'prur looks better than Queprur. Changing the spelling back isn't a issue, and I'll do so. Easier than BSing well enough to use apostrophes with reckless abandon- and, if I remember correctly, there's already one set of islands with too many apostrophes. >.>
And! It's never too late to suggest changing anything!!!
"Salén'Phýr" I got straight out of the Styrash dictionary, literally copied and pasted the two words and stuck a apostrophe between them. If the accents should be the way you say, then I will change it as I am not elven language savvy.
I did, and probably still do, significantly underestimate the size of all of the islands that make up Cyhalloi. It is hard for me to get a grasp on the areas and how much I can put into them when I don't know the square miles or, really, any solid numbers telling me just how big the areas are. I'm not very good with looking at a map and being able to judge the distances, especially when there is no distance measurement guide (or whatever that little measurement bar is called) on the map. I only have other continent maps to compare it to, and when I did that, Waning Moon Isle seemed particularly small to me. Thank you for the rough estimate of its size, and I'll be sure to fix that part as it is particularly unlikely for a port city to take up 125miles of space.
As for the orcs- they're called three different things in the entry because I couldn't figure out which one I liked better, or which was most acceptable. Chuut, if I remember correctly, means... vermin? Or something like that? Inuk for rock (since Dorolak is largely a rocky island with little else on it... like the rock trolls, for example). Emesz is... fire? Right? Which would keep true to the initially implied nature of the orcs by... I-forget-what-his-face-name-was... So... I don't know, I was just trying to come up with a good name for them and was having a hard time of it since I'm not orc-savvy at all. And I have absolutely no intention of calling them Doro-orcs since I personally think it sounds silly. It is true that my description of orcs iiisss pretty prejudiced sounding, but I really do want them to be particularly inbred-- "lower' orcs, if you will. I kind of wanted them to be the backwater hillbillies of Cyhalloi that survive mainly on their hardy constitutions and dumb luck, I suppose. Or at least, that's what I remember my intentions for them being. When I revamp the section, I'll try not to be so harsh on the orcipops. And before I get to doing too much with them, I'll be sure to read a bunch (if not all) of the Orc Tribe entries so I can get a better feel for the race.
As for the Ulvur and the Moon issue, I'll do my best to elaborate on that a bit more. At the time, I had assumed it would be obvious to everyone- but it was silly of me to do so, especially since newbies onsite would not know the same information about the Ulvur as I do unless they were to actually have read about them beforehand. And such things should not be assumed.
Since I am revamping the Kasumarii, I am integrating all the changes I would like to make to the tribe into this entry as it is the primary source of information about Cyhalloi. Shade Clerics are what I would like to change the Dark Priestesses to, since they don't reeaally have temples or anything like that. I'm still kind of figuring all that out. Once I have the geography of Cyhalloi down-pat then it will be exponentially easier for me to lay out a bit more about the Kar'ii- though I'm trying to keep the basics of what is already there.
What you said about the tundra and tree growth is a very good point, and I'll revamp the entry to accommodate the information that you've provided me. Honestly, I hadn't thought that far into it and was just keeping the basics of what was already laid out for Cyhalloi- which had a forest on the northern part of Guldor where the Ice Elves resided in their Ice Towers. The picture for the Tundra entry is what birthed the Dying Ice Ridge, really, and the angle of the picture will make more sense to me with the forest down by the southern coast as opposed to the northern. The towers will remain, the trees, however, will have to move. Perhaps a forest of icy stalagmites would be appropriate for the area, since it is so far north and close to the void- or whatever reasons seem fitting.
Geography is hard for me (and orcs even more-so), and I really appreciate the help. Thank you, Mina.
Not much has changed in the entry, though I assure you I've been poking and prodding at this since I last was actually active onsite. However, I feel I have gotten to a point where the entry can welcome comments, not because I feel it is fully finished- but because I can't seem to get any further with it after such a long time. Sooo... pretty please? Comments would be super appreciated, as well as(especially) suggestions for the Orc's mythology- orcs are so beyond me. When I look up at them, all I can see is a jutting chin, big teeth, and angry eyebrows.
It seems to have not worked. I'm on my third scan. I've already removed a bunch of things that came up the other two times. But it seems to just keep finding more. This is no good.
I understand what you mean, Azhira, and I appreciate and will apply your suggestion. Though the point isn't to make it easy, it's to have the proper names as named in the world by the inhabitants. So that if I do decide on a bastardization of the name by the humans, I can base the perversion off of the actual name instead of solely going off of the name-trend that the race/tribe renaming it has going.
The main reason I want to use TRULTRUL to name these hills, and maybe a few other areas on that particular island, is because they are the only sentient inhabitants living there that aren't of myth/lore. So, since they mainly live on that island, I figure that they would have names for different general areas of it to communicate to each other that- "Hey, lets go troll around all trolly like in the Rolling Hills today and see what we can nom-nom." I mean, I assume that trolls have conversations with each other just like any other sentient being does, even if they're not very deep or meaningful ones.
I'm going to start with a list of words I am going to use as a base, already supplied by Ishmaelion in this thread. After which, I am going to list the tharian name I currently have for the place, coupled with my suggestions for a the Troll's place-name and the bastardization of of said name. GHEREGH = Cave, home, house, dwelling IGHMESH = Snow (lit. white stone) HAMESH = Ice, quartz (literally, 'hard white') SLOGH = Plain, field SLOSH = Water SLOSHSLOSH = Lake, river SLOGHSLOSH = Island, 'watery plain' SNI = Small GH = Being (untranslatable literally. Has the connotation of 'sentience' or 'living'. Animals and some plants can be described with the GH syllable.) KLOIGH = Mountain KLOIGHSNI = Hill SLOGHKRAH = Canyon Folasch IGHMESHGHEREGHSLOGHSLOSH. Snowy Home Island. IGHMESH- Just go with MESH GHEREGH... REGH SLOGH... SLOSH...
name suggestions: MESHREGH SLOGSH REGHMESH GREGHMESH GHEREGHSLOGSH SLOGRESH Rolling Snows KLOIGHKLOIGHSNIMESH. Little White Mountains. Snowy Hills.
name suggestions MESHGH or GHMESH - Living snow Alright. That's all I got. :/ I've been thinking and working on this for the past few days now and that's all I've come up with....
Ishmaelion, I noticed in your list of words that MOSH means Animals. But then MOSHMOSH means Food. But at the bottom it says that to make a word a plural you repeat it. So MOSHMOSH would mean Animals and Food?
I'll probably still have it called the Rolling Snows by the humans of the area. But I wanted a name for it by the people that actually live there. And I'm actually considering renaming the island itself something TRULTRUL sounding, since I will no longer have the Sabuin people there. Snishlosh or some kind of perversion of Slogslosh and their word for snow.
I don't really have time to get too far into this at the moment, as I have to leave for work. I'll post more later.
KLOIGHKLOIGHSNIMESH is odd for a place name, and admittedly a little long. But I've seen names that are almost just as long, in R'unor example: Hylph'xan'ian'kroi Mountains is pretty long.
I'm not sure what I expected-... Actually, I'm pretty sure this exactly what I expected. Thank you for your time, Ishmaelion.
Wait, if KLOIGHSNI is "little mountain" or "hill", and to make something plural you repeat it, then wouldn't a plural of it be KLOIGHSNIKLOIGHSNIMESH?
SLOGHSLOSH... Hehehe. Oddly, it does sound a lot like Folasch when spoken aloud. Hm... Sloghslosh....
I am looking to name the hills in which the Snow Trolls live on the northernmost mainland island of Cyhalloi in TRULTRUL, but I don't really know where to start with this crazy language. As it is right now, the hills are called Rolling Snows, but since the trolls are the only ones living there, I figure they should be the ones naming the place.
Vesk suggested to me IGMESHKLOIGH, which I guess would be "snow mountain", but the hills aren't really mountains. They're just really big hills that shift around like sand dunes in the desert. Any suggestions that you may have for me would be greatly appreciated.