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Darren Konneran
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« on: 30 January 2002, 18:17:00 »

I know there are different types of magic... Imbue Magic, Chaos Magic, ect... but they all use the same system of words and mana and ingredients and runes and such.

Could there be different brands of magic? Like maybe a different system that does different effects? It would be like the Mentalists, a different way to use magic... what'd'ya think?

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« Reply #1 on: 30 January 2002, 21:34:00 »

Lifemagic could be considered a different 'brand', based on your description. Probably also Weavers.


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« Reply #2 on: 30 January 2002, 22:51:00 »

Open for suggestions!

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« Reply #3 on: 31 January 2002, 08:38:00 »

I think Clerical Magic is a different brand as well.

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« Reply #4 on: 31 January 2002, 14:10:00 »

Yes, clerics use power from their god, normal magic is elements and other powers

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« Reply #5 on: 31 January 2002, 17:27:00 »

Ok... so this is what I've collected so far...

 Wizardry (normal, everyday magic with speaking and mana... ect)

 Clerical Magic (power from prayers and holy symbols and god)

 Lifemagic (Taking from one thing, putting it in the other... I think)

 Weavery (Spinning pure magic into thread-like objects)

Mentalist (Magic of the mind... psychic powers)

A good list... I'll be making up some more on Friday, as I have a computer curfew that does not let me get on until Friday or Tuesdays and ends on Sundays or Wednesdays...


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« Reply #6 on: 31 January 2002, 20:41:00 »

Eh... Alright, here's the way I see it. There's Wizardly magic and Clerical magic.

Wizardly magic all draws power from the Aura. Aura of elements, things, etc. I thought we cleared up the Lifemagic thing on that one thread about the question(it manipulates the certain energy aura of the Xeuá that marks life). Mentalism is simply the force of will to manipulate the aura with one's mind, but the only way this can happen is by channeling their will through the Aura. As for Weaving, it's a manipulation of the Essence, which is the raw force of the Aura (kinda of 'leak' of power).

And a word on clerical magic: It's already been decided that the power isn't drawn from the Gods, as not everyone believes in the same Gods. That's still in the works.

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« Reply #7 on: 31 January 2002, 21:53:00 »

I agree with Tarquet on this one. We already have 2 main brands. Lets not make it even more confusing.

BTW, it should be: Lifemagic (Taking from one living thing, putting it in another living thing)


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« Reply #8 on: 31 January 2002, 23:38:00 »

Clerical power is (in my opinion) drawn from the Gods, but the Gods are dependent on belief to support them. Kind of a two-way system. And the evil gods still exist, because it's kinda hard to ignore the fact that lightning always seems to strike the dissidents. Ava and Coor are exempt from this rule, and to an extent the Twelve always have the latent powers of Ava reinforcing them. The other gods do exist, but only through the belief of their followers. Lier'tsan of the barbarians would dissapear with the death of the Kuglimz, and even the Kasumarii sun-god Griemnpor needs them to believe in his powers.
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« Reply #9 on: 01 February 2002, 00:19:00 »

One concept I disagree with: The only existing through the belief of the followers bit. While such an idea is quite appropriate for doing things in the etherial void, it makes it so that people can destroy a god just by killing all his followers....kinda weird.

I submit that each tribe has what they believe in, and whatever powers or what have you that they might get from that, but since nobody has actually *met* them, there is no concrete proof for or against. This means that any rational being can believe in a few, and disbeleive in a few, rather than all rational beings having to believe in everything.


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« Reply #10 on: 01 February 2002, 09:06:00 »

Tarquet, those are all different Systems. I'm not saying they use something else, but they do something else.

Wizardry, they use ingredients and Aura around them.
Weavers, they leak power from the Essence.
Mentalists, they see through the Aura?
And so forth...

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« Reply #11 on: 01 February 2002, 09:09:00 »

Well, the concept of gods living because of their followers isn't exactly new. David Eddings used it in his books. He had a council of which all of the 1000 members believed in another god, resulting in a total of 1000 gods. Those gods all lived in their own god-subworld. Gods without followers would become powerless, but they would still exist. Don't know if a good could actually be revived when he would get new followers.

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« Reply #12 on: 01 February 2002, 09:27:00 »

Well, as I said, clerical magic is still in debate.

But I don't think you understand, Darren. They do different things, yes, but with the same stuff. All Wizardly magic is a manipulation of a certain part of the Aura. Mentalism, Weaving, all of it.

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« Reply #13 on: 01 February 2002, 17:09:00 »

Have to object as well as did Greybark: Quantity of worshippers shouldn't result in a "quality" (in this case: existence) of Gods.


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« Reply #14 on: 03 February 2002, 22:45:00 »

Exactly based upon your description Tarq, those are different brands. If they do different things, or use different stuff, or both, its a different brand.

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