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« Reply #15 on: 05 January 2003, 19:03:00 »

Ah, I see. I think I understand the emotion thing now. Is love viewed as something spiritual or something emotional, though? Or perhaps its both?

Since water is often used to make lightning, couldn't a water mage also cast a lightning spell?

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« Reply #16 on: 05 January 2003, 19:10:00 »

Don't know, I guess it is seen as both though in the good and bad extremes there's the true love and uncontrolled lust.

Theoretical yes, but to keep it simple it might be better to just think that a lightening is created in air and thus is learnt by the wind school. I think that was the initial reason some lkightening spells are currently found in the water section.

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« Reply #17 on: 05 January 2003, 19:24:00 »

Lightning is pretty powerful. As you've stated, it can kill a person and not leave a mark. There are very few ways that someone, especially someone who's more an archer or a swordsmen than a magi, would be able to protect themselves, and yet people with magic levels as low as three can do spells of lightning.

Lightning is something with the potential to be really powerful, which is why I'd like to make it hard to really control. As it is, most magi have the capability to kill a swordsman no problem. There's no real balance, it seems. I just want every class to sort of be equal when it comes to power.

Forgive me if I sound to socialist. >_<;

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« Reply #18 on: 06 January 2003, 00:48:00 »

Well... people have managed to live through real lightning... and mage lightning at lower levels isn't up to the power of real lightning I would say until maybe past 6 or 7... maybe 8... more on the lines of shocks and such. Things that might paralyze for a bit, and friz some hair... causing a few burns... might halt nervous system in the weaker of people... but I don't think the lower spells would do that much damage... except to of course people wearing plate or drenched in water! ;)

And yeah, I would think that most lightning would be hard to control... I mean... the bolts usually shoot off everywhere... so there's the chance that the target wouldn't be hit. I think that lightning spells should be difficult to aim properly, IMO. Lower level, the wider the area of effect... higher the level, the more contained that effect area is and thus the greater chance of striking the opponent.



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« Reply #19 on: 06 January 2003, 02:21:00 »

What's going to stop a low-level mage from focusing and containing a lightening spell?

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« Reply #20 on: 06 January 2003, 03:30:00 »

His own personal abilities.

Just like that is what stops a lower level mage from casting higher level spells. The levels are simply a ranking of power... judged by Ximax... the reason someone is a certain level is because he has not the ability to cast spells of a higher level or current ones at a higher magnitude. :D

The more powerful and natural spell casters will likely do better in their casting, however... but that is expected. ;)



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« Reply #21 on: 06 January 2003, 06:23:00 »

Um. I meant in an RPG..

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« Reply #22 on: 06 January 2003, 20:44:00 »

Err... weaknesses maybe.....? :

Maybe state that in the spell description that at lower levels it can't be cast well or directed well, so lower level mages would either have to comply with this or they break spell rule...



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« Reply #23 on: 15 January 2003, 05:46:00 »

A mage of lower level than needed can try to cast a spell of higher level, however, he would most probably fizzle, cause a good deal of destruction wildly because he cpuldnt contorlm the power, or even if sucessful, simply drain his gift. My $0.02.

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« Reply #24 on: 17 January 2003, 20:17:00 »

Um, plate armor would protect you from the lightning. Electricity runs down the outside of things, which is the path of least resistance. That's why you're safe in a car during a thunderstorm. Also, people may or may not even be in contact with the metal, because of all of the padding (leather, etc) that is worn underneath the armor. Yes, a full suit of armor would probably stop a lightning bolt from harming a person.

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« Reply #25 on: 26 January 2003, 17:19:00 »

Too much science here! well, I don't want to be in a metal armour, even if padded and acting as a Faraday cage(?), I think I would get an heart attack immediately. I have never heard of anybody who survived in a Faraday-car. It is really a terrible noise inside!

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« Reply #26 on: 26 January 2003, 17:27:00 »

It's science, yes, and a regular Santharian wouldn't know it, but it does happen. Just because people don't know that the planet actually moves around the sun and not vice versa doesn't mean that it doesn't really happen. Just because people thought the world was flat doesn't mean that it really is. We may not know the rules and principles of science, but this doesn't mean they don't actually exist.

And didn't we already agree on the classification of lightning? Why is this thread still so active? o.o;

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« Reply #27 on: 26 January 2003, 19:03:00 »

Rayne, Arti doesn't want to have science in Santharia, at least no earthenly science, so it is really IRRELEVANT how f.e. lightning is created after the laws of earthen physics. With your dad being a physist you have the same problem as I had when I started here. I wanted to persuade Art to introduce some kind of gravitation - he said we don#t need one. I said, the Injera has a bound rotation with Sorren, not important -Sorren is definitely flat , because Art thought it to be flat. The discussions about that this is only elven believe and everything is possible came only later. There will be no sphere-like  sorren.Just imagine, that the constants of our physics might be very little different to those we know - and all is totally different. But that is the good thing here: We are NOT bound to these things. It may be more difficult to create things which aren't a mirror to our earth, but much more fun. We have magic here, how can it be possible that the laws of physics apply here? if we say, a knight faints/dies through a lightning, than it doesn't matter, if his metal armour was padded or not, it hits, if we say so!

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« Reply #28 on: 26 January 2003, 19:09:00 »

We don't want to have science, and we don't! But how else can we explain the classification of things if we don't apply some science to help? Like lightning! We were able to decide on classification by using science.

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« Reply #29 on: 27 January 2003, 06:55:00 »

Just phenomenical  

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