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« Reply #120 on: 22 April 2008, 10:22:44 »

Though I don't presume to be an expert, I'm pretty sure dragons are not a sentient race in Caelereth--there are plenty of them in our bestiary but I don't think any of them are sentient, Fox.  Is that what you had in mind by "dragon 'person' entry"?

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Nearly all the great dragons are sentient, complete with their own language, culture, religion, and so on. If you read the Ice Dragon entry (which was one I was planning to make), it says in it that they often take mortals on as 'familiars' and communicate telepathically with them just fine.

Drakes are the non-sentient ones, but many great dragons are as intelligent if not more so than the common races.

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« Reply #121 on: 22 April 2008, 11:02:19 »

It doesn't say specifically in the individual entries which Great Dragons are sentient, though.  I assumed that was a very simple type of communication--after all, people and animals can communicate quite well in RL.   If that is the case, I apologize--but I did not realize that they were sentient to the degree that you say.  In the overview (which I had not read before, just the individual entries), it briefly mentions that "Most of the Great Drakes are sentient dragons", but there is no entry (that I could find) that discusses specifically which dragons, their language, culture or religious beliefs in any detail. 

This being so--would dragons even communicate with people to the extent that they (people of Caelereth) would KNOW the dragons are sentient?    We might know about the ice dragon, because of its telepathic link, but how would we know about the others?

I'm not trying to argue with you here--just wondering how we as Compendium researchers would be able to get this information.   None of the stories we have on dragons suggest that they are prepared to co-operate with people to that extent.


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« Reply #122 on: 22 April 2008, 12:07:22 »

There's a few threads around detailing some more ideas on dragons, done by Morc. There's also a few myths and even history pertaining to other sentient great dragons (Ol'dem'brey of course as a big example). There is also, of course, Capher, a quite sentient shapechanging dragon.

As far as people knowing they are sentient.. I'm sure there would be plenty of myths, stories, and encounters to make people believe it, yes. How much of it is actually true or verifiable on the other hand isn't really available. For what I was planning, the dragon was going to be very far north in North Sarvonia, and would have only very minor contact with humans.. but the humans who interacted with it would have written down their experiences, though I was explicitly going to say that none of the material in the entry is verifiable. Regarding the other dragons, though, I don't know nor was I going to say, I am assuming they are mostly sentient (Morc is the person to ask in this regard concerning which ones, and how sentient each are), though my entry was going to deal purely with an ice dragon, which already have 'in-character' dragon/human relations.

I was going to have my entry written from a third party, but with access to stories and reports that were supposedly written down or left behind by the actual familiar(s) of the dragon. Therefore, again, it isn't entirely verifiable, but enough to write an entry on--we already have many things written down, even in history, that are rather mythical and not verifiable... so of course it's up to the people whether they wish to believe it or not.

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« Reply #123 on: 22 April 2008, 22:35:52 »

Okay, thanks for clarifying that, Fox!

It be neat to see what parallels there are in dragon culture with the other sentient races we have developed--such as music (if any), rules concerning social interaction, the ways in which they view other sentient races, etc.  Having done work on such things for the Kuglimz tribes and the orcish groups, (to the extent of having written AND performed songs in actual orc language for this site, see current update) I always find such concepts interesting.


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« Reply #124 on: 23 April 2008, 03:39:39 »

Yep, some personalisation of dragons was discussed - especially at Great Drakes, who are meant to be rare. This all with the intention to make these dragons realisitically possible in this world by reducing their numbers and giving them character. As Morc isn't really much around these days I'd say you can go ahead with this, Fox - maybe send him a PM first, though, to make sure he know what you're planning.
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« Reply #125 on: 15 July 2008, 19:34:20 »

Can I please reserve Sheil #7 Hummingbirds for Yian Tisare- Marmarran Kogian?
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« Reply #126 on: 15 July 2008, 19:59:38 »

Don't know if Coren reserved that as well at some point, suggest to check with him, as he has various similar pics reserved already. At any rate: If a picture isn't integrated within months its likely that you get it.
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« Reply #127 on: 15 July 2008, 20:48:48 »

I'd like to reserve Ingeborg's Picture #25 for use with my Kaaer'dar'shin religion entry. It goes perfectly with the Kaaer's belief in the creation of Father Light and Brother Earth.
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« Reply #128 on: 15 July 2008, 23:04:48 »

Sounds fine with me, Azhira!  thumbup
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« Reply #129 on: 15 July 2008, 23:26:22 »

Nope I have no claim on that one - only "July" and "Darshana", both of which are works in progress.
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« Reply #130 on: 16 July 2008, 01:31:28 »

Actually Arti...I want to use Arbaon's Purify #13. That shows pretty much everything about my religion/myth.
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« Reply #131 on: 16 July 2008, 02:01:33 »

Instead of the first one? This is available as well of course. If both could be used in a way, that would be even better - but it's your decision, Azhira ;)
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« Reply #132 on: 31 July 2008, 23:31:03 »

I'd like to reserve Sheil's Ice Dragon #27 and Dragon 5 #45 for the Kalta'Goor entry.
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« Reply #133 on: 31 July 2008, 23:39:18 »

Okeydokey, Azhira - shouldn't be a problem! :)
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« Reply #134 on: 28 August 2008, 23:46:37 »

Since Coren pointed out he didnt reserve #7 Hummingbirds of Sheil- Is it OK if I have it? It can be included in the Marmarra entry once its dusted up as well as the Kogian Five person entry (when I add the finishing touches).
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