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« Reply #30 on: 03 February 2007, 06:32:41 »

But my assumptions about 'mainly male clergy of Arlea' are...?
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« Reply #31 on: 03 February 2007, 06:34:20 »

Do you have the specific passage Deci? I couldn't find it. That's a bit embarrassing... :<

EDIT: Oh, I just saw your other quote to explain the assumption. See below
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« Reply #32 on: 03 February 2007, 06:38:33 »

Decipher doesn't see anything 'below'...
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« Reply #33 on: 03 February 2007, 06:41:02 »

That is because I am still trying to write it  fish

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« Reply #34 on: 03 February 2007, 06:55:41 »

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I was under the impression that men were those who dabbled in the divine, as when I first asked about the Krean occupations you told me that the Lillivear and the Aestera had opposite gender roles (usually), so I assumed that due to the large abundance of priestesses for Ankriss (lillvearan deity) would result in a large abundance of priests for Arlea (aesteran deity). Am I wrong?

Ah, I see what led you down the wrong path! Alright, here is how it goes:

Traditionally the Lillivear and the Aestera did have opposite gender roles: Lillivear women were the magic-users ('priestesses' - ie religion based) and Lillivear men were the governers/politicians etc (well... it was the priestesses who actually ruled and the men who did the leg-work but nevermind). With the Aestera, the women usually are the politicians. Men pursue a career in magic. However, note that Aesteran magic is a secular one - you have to be schooled in it like a science. So whenever I speak of Aesteran mages I refer to the secular ones. The priestesses of Arlea are a separate bunch. That doesn't mean however that the only magical career/education available to female Aestera is that of Arlean priesthood. Some of those women prefer to be 'mages' rather than 'priestesses'.

The reason Arlea has relatively few clerics (compared to Ankriss for instance) is because most women are involved in administration etc. The men - who are the magically inclined in Aesteran society - choose secular careers (eg as architect-mages). So that leaves overall a very limited pool of candidates for Arlean clergy.

(Does that make sense?)

Did I ever write/say Arlea only had female priestesses or mostly (98%)? I don't remember - have to check on this (if their belief bars men). I know with Ankriss it's the second one.
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« Reply #35 on: 03 February 2007, 06:59:08 »

Well if Ankriss bans the men, why does it say in the Krean entry that there have been some notable male priests?
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« Reply #36 on: 03 February 2007, 07:11:42 »

Ankriss doesn't ban the men. That's why I said it was the second (ie that the vast majority of them are priestesses, but notable exceptions exist)

PS: I've added some more comments to the uri-check above.
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« Reply #37 on: 03 February 2007, 07:16:53 »

How would you pronounce Mylthis btw? Mill-this or Mill-this(as in thistle)? I had the latter one (Mill-this(tle, wihout the tle)) in mind.
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« Reply #38 on: 03 February 2007, 07:22:26 »

Like this, Mil-fis
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« Reply #39 on: 04 February 2007, 01:29:22 »

Some comments partially intergrated...Rest wil do later
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« Reply #40 on: 04 February 2007, 05:39:04 »

'gemometrically' > geometrically ;)
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« Reply #41 on: 04 February 2007, 08:28:16 »

Being under the influence of about a gallon of caffiene surely does not help my spelling, though I trust my additions are at least acceptable?
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« Reply #42 on: 04 February 2007, 22:47:51 »

Oh, that just caught my eye as I was 'skimming' down the red passages to see how far you've got. Haven't really read it with an eye to the substance - ring me when you have all the edits done and I'll go through them :)
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« Reply #43 on: 04 February 2007, 23:44:34 »

My proposal (though it only works if Arlea shuns men as part of their clergy)

THE WHITE MIST- ORIGIN AND EXILE

The white mist were originally a sect inside the high arlean temple who believed that the divine bliss of Arlea should shared with all. They took white as their colour as they believed it to be the purest colour. It was the colour of the moon, one of the most potent symbols of arlea.

They secretly began to teach young boys of nine and ten the secrets of Arlea and the clergy that had been kept from males for generations. When the high(er) priestess found out about the sects actions they realised they needed to find a way to stop them. Rather then denounce them as priestesses, exposing that the secrets that had been kept for so long had been revealed. They instead decided to remove them from the mainstream and give them a temple of their own in the most remote place that they could think of without severing them form society. The high temple placed them in Mylthis, and it would act as their magnificent prision.

They named it drowning beauty, since the secrets of Arlea, the beauty, was begininng to die and to be consumed by the male, the sea in which they drown.

What do you think?
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« Reply #44 on: 06 February 2007, 04:16:30 »

I like the idea! Especially the origins of the name - what an appropriate punishment! Be wary of what you wish because you might just get it!

That said, I still would like to have some time to think this through - carry it it 'around' in my head for a couple of days - to see how we could make it work, integrate it within the existing framework (or adjust the framework to make it fit) and to see if anything else 'blossoms' after hibernating inside.

But do go ahead with the concept. Just maybe 'soften' the portrayal of the higher priestesses? Let's not make them sound like villains ;)

PS: We could make Arlean temple 'shun' men - perhaps not 'officially' but sort of 'this is the way things have always been. Thus, the thought of men serving Arlea is simply unnatural, preposterous' etc - I think I might even find you a famous character to integrate into the plot. *mischevious grin*
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