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« Reply #30 on: 03 February 2007, 04:26:14 »

Could you maybe think of another cause i dont really any good ones dealing with the elven dictionary.
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« Reply #31 on: 03 February 2007, 05:05:26 »

Lon’arnean- Wood Strike

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« Reply #32 on: 03 February 2007, 05:15:20 »

Yeh that works but now would humans call it be elven name or human tongue and if by human tongue would they use actual translation?
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« Reply #33 on: 03 February 2007, 05:33:25 »

I suppose it would be the same way in which foreign food isn't translated, you would keep the same name for every language...
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« Reply #34 on: 03 February 2007, 05:35:44 »

Please remember that "arneán" is an infinitive form, so the "-án" would always be omitted in constructed words to represent present participle.
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« Reply #35 on: 03 February 2007, 05:38:54 »

I'm soory but I'm not that good in grammar. What does that mean exactly?
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« Reply #36 on: 03 February 2007, 06:00:52 »

So Lon'arne?
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« Reply #37 on: 03 February 2007, 06:05:16 »

Not quite, Deci and Clurion.

What Arti means in saying that arneán is an infinitive form, m'lords, is that it is the basic form of the verb before any changes [called conjugations] are made to it.  Translated literally, arneán means ''to strike'', so lón'arneán really means ''wood to strike.''  Arti suggested that we make a one of those conjugations to the verb and place it in front of lón so that it reads árne'lón, which translates more accurately (and more aesthetically IMHO) into ''striking wood.''

Did that help at all?  :)
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« Reply #38 on: 03 February 2007, 06:08:09 »

Well it's clurion's entry...
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« Reply #39 on: 01 March 2007, 08:34:59 »

Ok, I've finally got around to changing this some, and would like to know if I need to change anything else. Or if anything has not been integrated since I'm not sure what has and what hasn't exactly from Arti's comment.
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« Reply #40 on: 02 March 2007, 05:23:38 »

Ok, let's take a closer look:

- Clurion, the intention of the Overview section is to summarize the entry in a few sentences - in this case what kind of weapon it is, of what type of material it consists, who uses it and where and why, in a very rough form. Well, but when I read this overview... errm... it could be really anything you're talking about, you know.

- If you call it "árne'lón" this already tells us quite a bit. Basically that it's a weapon of elven design, so that should be in the Overview, also what the translation means. And while you're at it you could try to find a human coloquial name for it like "xyz-sticks". Something like that. I'm sure not all humans would call this weapon by the elven expression only.

- Well. And where are changes in History/Origin as suggested? No change.

- What about adjusting the entry so that it isn't in large parts a copy of the Wikipedia entry? And in this sentence you even copied the name with it: "By holding the shaft and handle together, the tonfa can be used for holding or breaking techniques."

In short: If you want to see this entry integrated, read the comments given on it carefully and make the necessary adjustments before asking for another closer look!
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« Reply #41 on: 20 May 2007, 22:15:58 »

This is a bump, for my own purposes, so that it is easier to find, because I might actually try and finish it this summer.
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« Reply #42 on: 24 May 2007, 06:46:35 »

Im almost completely scrapping my old fighting style thing, but using it to make my own. I will psot here and modify here.


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     There are numerous ways to defend and attack with the árne'lón. Defensively, when holding by the handle, the shaft protects the forearm and hand from blows. By holding both ends of the shaft, it can ward off blows. When holding the shaft, the handle can function as a hook to catch blows or weapons. After catching the weapon, one could simply twist and pull to disarm their adversary.

    In attack, the shaft can be swung out to strike the target. By holding the handle and spinning the árne'lón it can gain large amounts of built up power before striking down. The edge of the handle can be used as a hitting surface, either when held by the handle, or when holding the shaft, using it as a club (when striking with the flat end) or like a hammer (when striking with the handle itself, which is a good way to increase strength in your swing). The shaft can also be moved correctly to stab at attackers. By holding the shaft and handle together, the árne'lón can be used for holding or breaking techniques. Another method as used involves striking with the elbow end of the shaft while grabbing the handle.

    The árne'lón is traditionally wielded in pairs, one in each hand. As the árne'lón can be held in many different ways, teaching in the use of the árne'lón often involves learning how to switch between different grips at high speed. Such techniques require great dexterity, as they involve flips and slides with the weapon.


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     The árne'lón traditionally only had one way to hold it, but there have been other ways of holding it developed through the course of time. It is best handled by using two árne'lóns, one in each hand.

     While in a defensive state, and holding it by the handle, one can use the strength of the forearm, and the protection of the shaft, to stop an attack. Another way to defend onesself, besides parrying, is to hold onto both ends of the shaft and completely stop an attack. These are just the common ways of defending with the árne'lón.

     On the other hand, when using it offensively, and holding it by the handle, one can use a numerous ammount of ways to swing the árne'lón and attack an adversary. One way is by swinging it, and then bringing it down with the swing of your arm. Another way, is to jab at your adversary. When holding by the shaft, one can use as a club, unless holding by the end of the end opposite of the handle. Then you can use it like a hammer, swinging at your opponent with the handle. There are many more way to attack, but these are just some of the common ways.
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« Reply #43 on: 25 May 2007, 08:47:29 »

Is this better, or still need more edits?
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« Reply #44 on: 28 May 2007, 06:16:58 »

Innocent bump, I'm posting edits at end so I may compare between my old and my new version of fighting style.
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