Fever Reducers and Purifiers

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[Alysse the Likely]

I'm not sure about "Sterilizer" or "Preservative", but the others are good.   Perhaps "cleanser", since much of sterilizing (from a medieval standpoint would have to do with cleaning.  They'd know how to sterilize things by boiling them (clothes, instruments) as well, I guess.

What about a Detoxiner (detoxifying agent) as a name for a anti-infection preparation--it removes the poisonous humours, or toxins, from the body?  Or is that too modern-sounding?

As for Preservative--well, it just sounds too much like a modern-day food additive.   Are you talking about something which makes medicine less likely to go bad? I'm a bit uncertain here.


Great work, Kelancey!  This entry is quite impressive already.

Alysse

[Kelancey the Green]

  @Alysse: Thanks!  I'm between "anti-miasmals" and "detoxifying agents".

  I like the sound of "anti-miasmal", but I'll confess, I didn't know what a "miasm" was till I looked it up on www.dictionary.com.  So, I'm kinda leaning toward "detoxifying agents"...then again, in the real medieval world, illness was often viewed as God's punishment for sin, so "purifiers" might sound better that way.  Okay if I change the name of this post to "Fever Reducers and Purifiers"?

[Alysse the Likely]

Purifiers works for me.  Maybe you can add a bit of lore as to how this or that plant might be sacred to or blessed by Nehtor (the god of healing), and this is thought to be why it actually works... like the Baveras' Gift flower

Alysse

[Kelancey the Green]

  Hmm, yeah, that's an excellent point, Alysse.  I hadn't thought of that.  Thanks!

[Takór Salenár]

"in the real medieval world, illness was often viewed as God's punishment for sin, so "purifiers" might sound better that way"

That's true, though this shouldnt have been the case, for this was an old Jewish interpretation , but this relation was  denied by the (early) Christians. I would lprefer if you would avoid this relation (illness=punishment) for Santharia, it would fit better to the Aeoliran religion.

[Kelancey the Green]

  @Takor:  I agree with you about avoiding any association of illness with punishment for sin in Santharia.  Added to my personal convictions on the subject (I don't think anyone deserves to get ill), that's one philosophical argument I'd really like to dodge!

[Altario Shialt-eck-Gorrin]

In the real world, I can understand your misgivings about getting into that touchy a philasophical (sp) and spiritual arguement, but wouldn't it be a very interesting can of worms to open in Santharian religion?  It could open many sub-plots to many a story if the temples were to suddenly have to deal with dissention among its ranks, regardless of what side of the aisle you sit on in real life.

Just my little skewed view

[Artimidor Federkiel]

I think the approach to strictly ban "illness being viewed as God's punishment for sin" in Santharia is too one-dimensional. I guess such belief is deeply anchored practically everywhere in human superstition today and in the past, whether it is doctrine or not - if something terrible happens that one can interpret as fate, especially lower rank people will always have that in mind methinks. So I wouldn't make it the determinating factor mayhaps, but wouldn't entirely exclude it. For example there could be certain kinds of healers, who are despised by others, who support such a view. Make it interesting, make it realistic - people have different points of views, why not let that be part of Santharian society?

[Altario Shialt-eck-Gorrin]

exactly...with consequences being a type of excommmunication perhaps?  or more extreme, a type of inquisition of sorts

[Takór Salenár]

I wouldn't call such a belief "one-dimesional", at least it is what is essential in the Jewish belief, was common i think in Greek and Roman mythology (didn't check that), but is not original Christian tradition. Don't mix it up with the punishment in the purgatory! (not original christian either)

This "can of worms" would fit much better for Aeruillin and how the people there see their relation to the gods.

quote Art:"I guess such belief is deeply anchored practically everywhere in human superstition today and in the past, whether it is doctrine or not - if something terrible happens that one can interpret as fate, especially lower rank people will always have that in mind methinks."

I don't know, if this is the case, we would need somebody with psychological background here. I think it is to a great part how you were raised, if you believe this or not. If it is common belief, that the gods are not interested in punishment, but either disinterested or benevolent, then the idea doesn#t come up. You may well cry about your fate and ask WWhy did the gods allow this??", but that is not necessarily linked to the thought that gods punish for sins . I don't think either, that much sects would spring up. Some, for if Aeruillin believes this, the idea is present in santharia as well, but not mainstream.

I would avoid to touch this here, this is a major decision we shouldnot introduce with a herbal book.

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[Bard Judith]

Bearing that all in mind, I think 'purifiers' is perfectly acceptable vocabulary and does not need to have a 'spiritual' connotation.

Great work as always, Kelancy!

[Artimidor Federkiel]

Okeydokey, I mark this now for integration... If you can add the few things you still have marked as "to be added soon", Kelancy, then these will make it as well into the next update. Otherwise I take as much as we got already, which is already quite a bit - At any rate in the next update it will be in! - Great job, Kelancy!

[Kelancey the Green]

  Um, I think I'm ready for a look-through.  Thanks again, Alysse, for the suggestion of the Lore of Usage section!

[Kelancey the Green]

  One finishing touch: In the Redberry bush entry, where it says Ormelin is a "panacea"--is panacea acceptable in Santharia?  Some alternative words I dug up to suggest in its place might be:

• Catholicon
• Multi-purpose restorative
• Elixir vitae

  Another point for revision: I completely forgot Judith's theriac entry!  I don't know all the ingredients, and, complicated as it is, I'm not sure what the lore of usage would read for this "magical" cure-all.  Should theriac go into this topic?

[Artimidor Federkiel]

Well, that's now quite a presentable list, Kelancy! I think the Lore part especially adds another very important aspect to the short overviews, as it provides another perspective that has been missing as of yet. Very enjoyable to read through.

I don't have any quibbles regarding the text - it is well researched and written with care to keep the medieval spirit. Helpful would be a few lines on the beginning of the entry dealing with the topic in question. In this case some explanations of Fever Reducers and Purifiers would be in order.

The design we could do for now similar to the Weapons Overview perhaps, where we can add in small picture of the plants as well where we have them. Right now we only have a picture of the redberry bush and the tareptail as far as I can see for this entry, but then we are prepared for the future at any rate

"Panacea" - didn't even know that word existed, but my dictionary explains this simpley with "cure-all", so we might use that term perhaps.

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