Earth School -- is any process being done here?

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Earth School -- is any process being done here?

« on: 18 August 2007, 15:21:33 »

As the Earth magic school was originally composed by Rayne nearly 4 years ago without being finished and integrated, I think it's time we get at least a basic entry on the site as it is the last of the four elemental schools that needs to be completed.

Is this reserved by anyone at this point in time? As much as I'd like to have Rayne come back and finish it I don't know what her status is at the moment.


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Re: Earth School -- is any process being done here?

« Reply #1 on: 20 August 2007, 01:41:01 »

No progress and not really reserved either at the moment.


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Re: Earth School -- is any process being done here?

« Reply #2 on: 20 August 2007, 08:24:27 »

I've unofficially asked to work on it multiple times, but have recieved no definite answer.


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Re: Earth School -- is any process being done here?

« Reply #3 on: 20 August 2007, 09:23:31 »

Drasil, everyone has been hoping to see some format of this particular entry from you. If Fox is interested in assisting in this area maybe you two could get together on the subject. I will vouche for Fox's knowledge on the magic of Santharia. After a few minor debates in IRC with her on various subjects pertaining to magic, I would recommend her help on any material in this area.

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« Reply #4 on: 20 August 2007, 22:56:43 »

It would also do my heart great joy to see this area finished. Drasil, not to be rude; but I know better than that. You told me just last summer that you were working on it and it was going to be done in less than seven weeks, possibly approved by then. However, since Drasil seems to wish to carry the title of "Primary Earth Magic Developer" and do nothing in this area, may I also carry the title of "Jack of All Santharian Trades, Master of Many"? There are several areas I'd love to develop and many others I'd rather not touch.

One reason I would especially like to see this area developed is that Twen and I have held many debates; some several hours long, on Earth being a main element that necromancy should focus in. It is the element that defines the Death Goddess Queprur. Spells like Bone Calling, Sanguinary Block, Raise Skeleton and Guise of Bones prove this fact. Also, Earth deals with things like plant growth and ALL metals of medieval times. Since Drasil is either too busy or lazy to develop in this area, anyone who wishes to do so has my full cooperation.

Solely @ Drasil: I humbly apologize if the above offended you, but you've gone over a YEAR without touching this subject. Give up on it? If so, why? Please message me with details.

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Re: Earth School -- is any process being done here?

« Reply #5 on: 20 August 2007, 23:46:54 »

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Spells like Bone Calling, Sanguinary Block, Raise Skeleton and Guise of Bones prove this fact.

http://www.santharia.com/dev/index.php/topic,11272.0.html


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Re: Earth School -- is any process being done here?

« Reply #6 on: 20 August 2007, 23:51:38 »

I disagree with you Dagan...
Earth is not the element that goes with necromancy, its fire.
According to my own understanding of the spiritual aspects of fire:
Fire is the only element that needs fuel to exist and when this fuel runs out, the fire will die. Much like people. Our own fire needs fuel which would be the will to survive/live. The more we desire to live or to survive, the bigger our fire gets but the more we loose our will to survive, the fire slowly dies. If we completely lose our will to live in the world, the more chances that you will commit suicide grin

. Its kinda hard to explain in text.

So fire would be needed to rekindle this lost hope in the dead, by giving them false hope that they are living they willl risr.. Its really hard to explain in text.

Earth is more on physical attributes. You can fix the bodie's injuries but not the soul...


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Re: Earth School -- is any process being done here?

« Reply #7 on: 21 August 2007, 01:32:38 »

Shansi, the dead aren't really sentiently "thinking". The fire is used to animate the subject, thus making it "alive"; it has nothing to do with giving a cadaver "hope".


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Re: Earth School -- is any process being done here?

« Reply #8 on: 21 August 2007, 01:43:28 »

Yeah I did not mean it literary (i think i spelled it right). It's just symbolism...


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Re: Earth School -- is any process being done here?

« Reply #9 on: 21 August 2007, 03:02:28 »

Earth is the literal element of death. Earth and Frost are both the elements for achieving or manipulating death itself. Fire, and to a lesser degree, wind as well, are the elements for reversing or escaping death.

Necromancy is not a field that is defined by simply one element, it has ties with all elements.


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Re: Earth School -- is any process being done here?

« Reply #10 on: 21 August 2007, 03:18:27 »

Okay... I was actually having confusion on what necromancy should be, wind or fire but I never thought of both...

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« Reply #11 on: 21 August 2007, 03:50:31 »

Dagan: It has not been over a year since I last "touched" the element of earth. While my schedule has prevented me from deving as regularly as I used to, I have continued to write earth spells and have begun some of the necessary reworkings. As I doubt you know, doing an entry such as rewriting a school of magic when it is already reserved for another member is extremely difficult and requires many permissions.

Personally, I do not find you at all qualified to help with the entry in any way shape or form.

@Fox: Does the co-authorship sound good to you? We bump into each other frequently on the IRC so it shouldn't be hard to find some time to discuss. If you don't mind, I'd prefer to do the actual writing, but you vast knowledge would greatly appreciated.

@Mina: Is it safe to assume that I have been given premission to work on the entry?


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Re: Earth School -- is any process being done here?

« Reply #12 on: 21 August 2007, 03:58:27 »

Quote from: Drasil Razorfang on 21 August 2007, 03:50:31

@Fox: Does the co-authorship sound good to you? We bump into each other frequently on the IRC so it shouldn't be hard to find some time to discuss. If you don't mind, I'd prefer to do the actual writing, but you vast knowledge would greatly appreciated.

As long as it gets written (without taking a year) then that's all I'm concerned with.


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Re: Earth School -- is any process being done here?

« Reply #13 on: 21 August 2007, 04:15:03 »

Funny...

In that case I'll go digging to find Rayne's notes and begin to work


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« Reply #14 on: 21 August 2007, 08:42:30 »

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One reason I would especially like to see this area developed is that Twen and I have held many debates; some several hours long, on Earth being a main element that necromancy should focus in.

Yes we debated this BUT .... in noway was I supportive of the fact that Earth was a primary area for Necromancy! The solidity and stillness aspects of earth are highly contrary to the animation of the dead. Also! Queprur is most likely adamantly against necromantic arts. This goddess is the focus of DEATH and I would guess likes things to remain dead. IMHO

@Gaffin: You might be surprised what can be accomplished with necromancy. In fire alone there are more than a few spells that hint at what can or can not be done. But the extent of what the limitations of these are, continue to be defined.


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