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« Reply #60 on: 16 June 2008, 09:45:20 »

I agree!


It's wonderful that we have some other people interested in map work - I've always argued that geography CREATES culture and that maps should come first in any development or discussion of an area.

Art, have we decided that ALL maps on the site should be done in this consistent greyscale style?  I think we discussed that, so that eventually (like in the year 3000) we can click almost anywhere and 'zoom in' at least three or four levels deep, from continent to province to specific city.  In which case all city maps should be done in greyscale as well.    Could I try redoing the Marcogg map this summer to see how that might look in matching greyscale?  Have any ideas or extra icons that we could use?


This guy  http://nicubunu.blogspot.com/2008/01/quest-complete-rpg-map-tileset.html  has 'free-to-use' icons that would look amazing in greyscale.  Would you mind if I contacted him and asked for permission to use them to create our city maps? 



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« Reply #61 on: 16 June 2008, 12:03:50 »

On the subject of city maps, I'm interested in drawing on for Kyttaering. Any tips?
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« Reply #62 on: 16 June 2008, 12:34:14 »

This site has some guides for drawing maps in Photoshop.  I don't think it is entirely compatible with Arti's style, but it has some nice tricks you can learn. 
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« Reply #63 on: 16 June 2008, 18:49:21 »

I added to my musing's section of Smee's plans a thought about city maps, and have a couple of links in there of some previous threads about it. I was thinking of starting with Simsy. A small village seems a good place to start for me.

Those look like some awesome icons Judy. I hope we can use them.

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« Reply #64 on: 16 June 2008, 20:54:51 »

Is there a way someone can add a couple of town icons along the northeastern border of the Themed'lon forest? That is Torik, the Kaaer'dar'shin home colony. With two (going on three possibly four) entries mentioning Torik, there should be an indicator of it on the Caael'heroth map I think.
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« Reply #65 on: 17 June 2008, 15:49:11 »

The Nicu's Clipart page looks really great, Judy! Here on this page you have pretty much all of these pictures. I'd need to check how they look greyscaled and made smaller, but I think they will fit in perfectly into Santharian maps, because we went for the 3d approach, and these are made exactly the same style. As he offeres them to the free clipart site, I guess he's perfectly fine with allowing them to be used in Santharia. Maybe you can contact him anyway and ask again, pointing him to the Manthrian map - maybe he sees the potential we have with such clip arts and helps get us even better with new ones :)

Concerning the question if all maps should be greyscale maps: Well, we have a great city map of Nyermersys by Koldar, which is not in greyscale, so I cannot say that this was agreed somewhere. And this map definitely looks cool :) - Personally I will focus more on the landscape maps in the style of Manthria, as here I have my experiences, and if we can use more 3d-clipart this will make maps even better if we can properly convert them the way we need it. I guess with landscape maps we'll cover the most important things, that's why I'll go more in this direction personally.

@Azhira: Well, if you have a bunch of stuff to add to that particular map, I suggest to take the map and mark what you want to add where and name these towns/mountains/villages etc. - then I'll so to add all that at once.
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« Reply #66 on: 17 June 2008, 17:37:27 »

Ok, I've sent an email off to the address Nicu gives.  Don't know what time zone he's in, but let's hope he checks his box regularly!  I LOVE those pictures...

Will Photoshop greyscale and shrink nicely?  My PhotoIllustrations can desaturate and retain detail, but resizing sometimes pixilates stuff badly.
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« Reply #67 on: 17 June 2008, 20:10:24 »

Well, yeah, it depends on the picture of course. The source pictures I bought back then in order to populate the Manthrian map with them of course had to be reworked to a degree, so that they looked ok in the size we need them. But yeah, important is mainly to have a great source.
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« Reply #68 on: 20 June 2008, 22:54:40 »

Just as a side note, I want to congratulate Smee on his elaboration of the Scattersand Shoals. It's perfect :D

Now that we're at it, I seem to remember I had an easter egg hidden among the names of the isles, which is... well visible at the map if you have the eye for it... it had to do something with... can't remember the name... alli...something ;)

Hope you can do more maps in the future Smee, they're a most welcome addition to the project. With general entry, map, and theme music, I think the Scattersands are quite complete  grin
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« Reply #69 on: 23 June 2008, 17:52:01 »

Kind praise indeed, Gean! I couldn't have done it without all the work you did on the entry itself, but I'm delighted you like it.  :)
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« Reply #70 on: 26 June 2008, 02:28:32 »

Completely deailing the current topic, but; Art, is there a Nybelmarian version of the Monster Maps? Or does it need to be created from scratch? (that would be a hassle... compiling the Koldar maps into one big one, then re-cutting it into the geographic regions, and somehow changing the scale without everything going blurry, ans poking them around to fit in line with the standard maps as Art makes them..)
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« Reply #71 on: 26 June 2008, 02:32:25 »

No, there isn't any Nybelmarian monster map yet, simply because my reference was the Santharian map and I used it to blow the other things up to fit it the Manthrian style version. I'd have to look at the (rather small, rough) complete Caelereth map and deduce the Nybelmarian size from there.

So yeah, while more complicated, it's something I could try.
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« Reply #72 on: 26 June 2008, 02:37:04 »

Well, if you could create such a master map, it will be my pleasure to start filling in the high-detail versions. Lots of things have changed since Koldar frist created his (masterfully drawn!) map. Geography got altered, entire nations arose from the empty sands, and so on and so on. Not in any particular hurry since i still have to secure some software to work with through.. uhm... 'creative means', but still.
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« Reply #73 on: 26 June 2008, 03:04:40 »

As if the rough sizes of Nybelmar are not already online and finer details in the work. Wasn't that thread not long enough on top, how could you have missed it, Mira?

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I'd have to look at the (rather small, rough) complete Caelereth map and deduce the Nybelmarian size from there.

Art, you did not know either that I'm doing this stuff right now?


Oh how encouraging!   evil

Btw, the two mostermaps together as one map gave my computer quite a bit work to do, but it helped me to find the right distances.
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« Reply #74 on: 26 June 2008, 03:08:21 »

Well, yes - I could use a Nybelmarian distance from the easternmost point to the westernmost. Based on that we could determine how large the map should be in cm on a piece of Photoshop paper e.g., and then I can blow it up that way :)
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