Chymicals and Elemenes: The Tabula Peryodiq of Santharia - updated Oct 08

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Or what about "Odd. This smells familiar."

[Bard Judith]

Just to up the ante....

[Rookie Brownbark]

Oh I wonder where he found that then?

[Bard Judith]

 

ROOKIE!

I was on vacation and missed this - must have been below the Recent Post bumpline - until now.

Bad brownie!  Bad, bad brownie!

Actually,  I suspect you are ever so slightly scorched and crusty around the edges, have delectable fudge icing , and could be described as 'nutty'.  And they burnt the bottom out of the pan in which they made you.   

[Rookie Brownbark]

 

Oh...I just had a thought...you know that if you feed lambs loads of garlic the day before they are slaughtered, their meat tastes of garlic?  Does the same apply to snails and alcohol?  Any insights Judy?

Hmmm, fudge icing yes.  No doch nuts though, ick.

[Ta`lia of the Seven Jewels]

what is Udzeran blue made from

That's a secret!

(even in dev terms) --- maybe that's a mineral, mixed with the colour the vhin petal produces... nothing for your list

[Bard Judith]

Rookie:  Isn't there a Chinese dish called 'Drunken Snails"?   Or was it the Romans who used to steep live snails in liquor before consuming them?   

Talia:  I won't ask for the receipt then,  but do you need a mineral like lapis lazuli to be at least listed?

[Miraran Tehuriden]

Error! Error! Lapis Lazuli (or translated literally, Stone of Lazvard) is not a mineral, but a rock! It contains pyrite, white calcite, and the blue minerals lazurite and sodalite. Take note that pure lazurite is just about nonexisting in nature.

[Bard Judith]

(sticks out tongue)  And a medieval scholar is going to KNOW, let alone CARE about that distinction?   Pedant!  Green-thumbed vegephilic apprentice-bane!  They're ALL elements ..er, I mean, substances...


(grins cheekily at Mira)

'Sides which, this ain't Terran nature were dealing with.  This is Caelereth, and if we wanna make us some giant chunks of 'Azuran Azuli' studded through the granite mountains of Sarvonia, like plums in a pudding, we can! 

[Miraran Tehuriden]

-Well.. yes, they will, you over-litterate moonshining maiden of music! Minerals handle completely different from rocks, any ancient philosopher would jave known that... especially our gnomish friends!


-Yes, you can.. but not Lapis, which is what you were talking about

[Bard Judith]

(suppresses a snicker at Mira's creative epithet)


Soooo... if I DID want to make a big blue - um - substance to grind up and make pigment out of - would it be a ROCK or a MINERAL?   I shall gracefully retreat from Lapis, especially since Talia's not telling...

[Miraran Tehuriden]

Well, minerals tend to yield purer colours, basically because they are a pure substance, with no pollutions of any kind..

[Bard Judith]

Getting back on topic after that digression into drunken snails and blue pigments...

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For reference:

"The discovery of baking soda began with potash, a crude potassium carbonate extracted from wood ashes. American colonists learned how to purify potash into the pearlash (a more concentrated potassium carbonate) that became an important ingredient to their booming soap-and glass-making businesses. By the mid-eighteenth century, production of potash and pearlash had grown from a cottage industry to a major commercial enterprise. The colonies, with trees to burn, began exporting huge amounts of these carbonates to England's glass and soap factories.

It was during the 1760s that the use of pearlash in baking became popular. Bakers had been using tedious and difficult hand kneading as well as long-rising sourdough starters to leaven bread. Pearlash's high potassium carbonate content made it quite alkaline, so it was initially added as a natural counter to the sourness caused by the acids in sourdough. Bakers discovered, however, that besides sweetening the dough, pearlash accelerated its rising by liberating carbon dioxide gas bubbles as it reacted with the sourdough acids and baking heat. This ability of pearlash to create in minutes the leavening gases that required hours from the natural sourdough yeasts revolutionized baking.

The popularity of pearlash was fueled by two nearly concurrent developments in the United States. In 1796, Amelia Simmons published the first American cookbook, American Cookery, which featured several recipes requiring pearlash. At the same time, Oliver Evans was pioneering the fine grinding of wheat into lighter, airier flour. Almost at once, the home baker had pearlash, a growing body of instructions on how to use it, and finer, increasingly available flours.

The Soda Ash Revolution

Although pearlash remained the premier industrial carbonate in America well into the nineteenth century, the American Revolution convinced the governments and industries of western Europe that their rapidly expanding need of American carbonates was politically and economically unwise. There was precious little European woodland left to sacrifice to wood ash, and the only natural alternatives were the limited supplies of crude carbonates produced from the ashes of seaweeds and plants. The situation became so alarming that in 1783 the French Academy of Sciences offered a prize for the best process for converting common salt (sodium chloride) to soda ash (sodium carbonate). Nicolas LeBlanc won the prize in 1791 for his method of reacting salt, sulfuric acid, coal, and limestone. Soon soda ash plants proliferated in Europe. The now plentiful local supply of sodium carbonate replaced imported American potassium carbonates.

Saleatus

The development of today's leavening bicarbonate from the industrial carbonates of yore took different routes in Europe and America. European chemists bubbled carbon dioxide gas through solutions of sodium carbonate to form the less alkaline sodium bicarbonate. This chemical was dubbed saleratus, meaning "aerated salt." Saleratus was adopted by the medical community as a safe and effective treatment for acid stomach. By the 1830s, America's home bakers had discovered that the sodium bicarbonate imported for medical use was a superior (albeit expensive) leavening alternative to pearlash or the American version of saleratus. It released its carbon dioxide quickly in recipes and was less prone to bitter aftertastes.

American saleratus, potassium bicarbonate, was first made by Nathan Read of Salem, Massachusetts, in 1788. He suspended lumps of pearlash over the carbon dioxide-rich fumes of fermenting molasses. The dry pearlash absorbed the carbon dioxide, converting its potassium carbonate to potassium bicarbonate. By the early nineteenth century, brewers and distillers were making saleratus as a sideline in much the same way by taking advantage of the carbon dioxide released from their fermentation vats. American saleratus was less expensive than the imported variety, but it was not as pure and did not leaven as dependably."   (from syndetics.com)

[Tak]

Hello!  I was sent over here to weigh in on some Santharian minerals.  I've looked through what you have so far and i'm fairly impressed.  Do you have anything equivalent to the Alkaline metals? 

All of them need to be isolated through electrolysis, but this isn't earth!  Maybe some sort of magic would have to be used, or some alchemy could be used to isolate them?  I would assume they would both go in Fire substances as they all react violently with water. 

As far as uses for them....Lithium is used as an alloy, a flux, and in red fireworks.

Sodium is used in alloys, soaps, and water

Potassium is used for a lot of geologic stuff to determine date, but when you combine it with others...it creates stuff like Potassium Nitrate (aka saltpeter), which is more or less essential to gnomish weaponry. 

Anyway i hope some of this helps!  Maybe i could make a few of these if you'd like

[Bard Judith]

Has Tak
Been seen back?
No?  Alas, alack!

I shall thwack
My head on back
Of chair.  New tack!

This is a bump.
Don't like? Then lump
It.  We must jump-

Start ancient thread
Before it's dead.

That's all she said!

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