Tattoos and Magic

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Re: Tattoos and Magic

« Reply #15 on: 11 March 2009, 07:13:20 »

Tebori. The original and best!

I wish I could afford to have one of the Japanese Masters tattoo me using the traditional methods....sigh

Anyway, is this the method you propose? Would you have me use wooden needles, or is there a specific animal whose bones could be splintered to use as needles? Or something with spikes? Or sharpened quills from some rare bird?

What about inks?

There's a lot more to this tattooing business than just jabbing someone with a sharp stick, y'know!


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Re: Tattoos and Magic

« Reply #16 on: 11 March 2009, 07:18:00 »

Not related to magic, but heavilly with Tattoos, we need to talk about the Faen at some point Tharoc. Maybe a good point on the MirThmoot agenda?


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Re: Tattoos and Magic

« Reply #17 on: 11 March 2009, 07:21:02 »

Absolutely! I suppose we should at least try to give the appearance of having accomplished something during our weekend!

Just to give me a fighting chance, what precisely were you proposing?


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« Reply #18 on: 11 March 2009, 07:22:45 »

@Marmarran Magic Tattoos

Octopus Ink!

I don't know Tharoc, whatever you think is best. My only requirements are the design and the effects, you can define everything else in whatever way you see fit!

@Faen

The Faen are completely tatooed all-over! Its done by the Order of Poetpriests, who do alot of things actually....


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Re: Tattoos and Magic

« Reply #19 on: 11 March 2009, 07:23:43 »

The Faen have symbolic tattoos all over their body, depicting things such asclan, archivements, important happenings, family ties etc etc etc. Basically, a faen can look at a faen and know all the important bits about him/her. Provided there are no clothes involved of course


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« Reply #20 on: 11 March 2009, 07:27:50 »

Ricco quills (which are very sharp, hollow and often used for medicinal purposes) might work for tattooing purposes as well. They're fairly common little animals and can be found all over.

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Re: Tattoos and Magic

« Reply #21 on: 11 March 2009, 07:29:06 »

@ Mira. So you want to discuss just what form these tat's take? And methods of application etc?
No probs.....but as for the no clothes thing......can I keep my socks on? grin

@ Deci. Brilliant! I'd forgotten your octopus! That would be ideal. How soon do you need me to write the methods/tools?


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« Reply #22 on: 11 March 2009, 07:31:14 »

Thanks, Alysse. I'll bear that in mind.

I was going to see if there were any animals/plants sacred to the Marmarrans which they may choose to use in the ceremony. If indeed there is a ceremony attached to it........DEEECCCIIIII!


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« Reply #23 on: 11 March 2009, 07:37:25 »

No Rush!

And if you are talking about my Mollusk...You would be talking about the Ink Dumpling or Filachara! This ink could have found its way to Marmarra, depending on how big the Faen trade web was by 1649 b.s.

You could always reference the much rarer Charalara Octopus. While its less common in the Western Bay than the Filachara, there are no Filachara on the Southern Coasts whatsoever!

If you want something comprehensive:

'The Marmarran tatooists who apply the runes in this sealing process generally use the processed ink of the Charalara Octopus, a plentiful resource due to the Queendom's vassal settlements along the so-called 'Morose Shores' '

Hows that for you?

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Re: Tattoos and Magic

« Reply #24 on: 11 March 2009, 07:39:31 »

Well Tharoc, as for the socks thing.. me and Ms. W will have to discuss that when we get to it.


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« Reply #25 on: 11 March 2009, 07:40:30 »

The 'ceremony' is likely to be conducted out of public sight, as the Witch Queens would want as few people as possible hear the Inami encantations and see the Inami runes...most of what we would know about the process would come from people who are part of the process and leaked information out (bribery anyone?).

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Re: Tattoos and Magic

« Reply #26 on: 11 March 2009, 07:46:44 »

@ Deci. This is good stuff! I can write a pretty comprehensive section to my entry with this information. Thank you, kind sir! I shall, of course, be giving you exclusive editorial rights to the Marmarran section, when it is finished.

@ Mira. I'm just off to the shops, to see if I can buy a pair of neck-high socks!


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« Reply #27 on: 12 March 2009, 12:24:29 »

This is finally what I have been looking for. You may notice the runes etched into my skin. Before I came to Santharia I had them etched into my skin. In my newbie forum I explained they held great power for me in my old world. Well for some reason they are no good here in Santharia. I am powerless and in fact they have begun to itch and burn. I would appreciate if you could research ways to remove magical runes (without killing the host). One lesser minded individual suggested I wash them off. Very funny. I will pay dearly to have these runes removed. I will pay even more dearly to have new, more powerful runes applied. Perhaps you need something illustrated.

Keep in mind, each rune provides the host a unique power. Combinations of certain runes unlocks deeper magic. However the host must be very careful.... for if they are not aware of the affects of one rune on another they can become possessed, diseased, weakend or just simply die. I have even heard of runes being used on enemies or slaves to place them bondage or servitute. Never let someone tattoo you unless you know how it will effect you.


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« Reply #28 on: 12 March 2009, 12:54:49 »

Ok wait...so magic tattoos are going to be an exclusive Nybelmarian thing? No fair!

However...I don't see magic tattoos as fitting well within the Ximaxian system. The power of a tattoo is a sort of focus for magic and Ximaxian magic doesn't require a focus, only willpower to accomplish what is needed. Telekinesis, evocation magic, necromancy, etc can all be done using the Ximaxian system. The tattoo would have to be some kind of focal point of ounia that can be manipulated, but a mage can manipulate ounia anywhere at anytime without the need for a focus.

Nevertheless, mystical tattoos should be a foreign concept and Nybelmar is a perfect place for that. It would be a new magic system, of course, and quite different than the Ximaxian system.

Somehow...I see tattoo magic as being more divine than arcane. As if the gods themselves granted a portion of their power on someone using a tattoo. Having the mark of the divine, whether from a god or a demon, would grant a person abilities far beyond those of a mere commoner. Imagine a follower of Ghelgath who has a mark of the demon imprinted on his skin by a powerful cleric. With it, he can use dark spells to attack or defend himself. Or perhaps a tattoo is made as a curse upon someone that hinders them somehow.

Yes...having divine magic within a tattoo would be grand, and if developed in Nybelmar, away from Ximaxian "theory", you wouldn't need to have Avarian clerical magic to base it off of...

*pokes Talia* We going to get that done someday, maybe?


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Re: Tattoos and Magic

« Reply #29 on: 13 March 2009, 01:24:34 »

It doesnt realy have to be a new magic system per se Azzy. Possibly a new application of an older one though.

The Faen tatoos, although set be the Poetpriests, are perfectly mundane. The Marmaran Seal mark is empowered by Eludian sorcery, which is arcane magic if i am not mistaken. The Trumarim... well, i would have to discuss with Bard Judith if i can in fact give them the magic i want to give them, but it would be closely related to your idea of specific tattoos granting special powers.


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