Picture of Gouran(Avath'cao) with Warg and Orcs

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Picture of Gouran(Avath'cao) with Warg and Orcs

« on: 26 March 2009, 12:39:05 »

Here she is finally, Gouran (Avath'cao). A few notes about this picture. I realize most Injeren elves are blonde, However I depicted Gouran with black hair due to her transformation into Gouran. " When she came out from the depth of Tak’dinal there was a dark beauty about her. All of the light and tenderness had been sucked out, only to be replaced by the cold perfection of a statue."

I also realize there may not have been Warg-Wolf Beasts at this time in history. Again I took some artistic licence. Considering Gouran used an army that partially was spawned by the dark evil of Tak'dinal I imagine Wolf Beasts could be included. Eckra the Cruel had Warg Beasts after all.

Finally I depicted two Orcs loosely based off of the Rhom-Oc Orcs and the Osther-Oc Orcs. Again the fact that this setting is quite a long time ago, I don't expect the Orcs would have appeared exactly as they do today.

Let me know what you think. I will be out of town this weekend so I will get to any changes as soon as I can next week.

P.S. I am looking forward to drawing the Forsaken Blade for my next project. A little less complex of an undertaking.


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« Reply #1 on: 26 March 2009, 18:12:14 »

Impressive, as usual... Now I'm going to have to read this entry ^.^


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« Reply #2 on: 26 March 2009, 22:51:42 »

Another point on the Warg. Garret points out that it may be too small and not red enough to be a Hellhound (Warg Beast) Let me know what you think. I can certainly make it redder and bigger very easily or we could classify it as a different type of Warg altogether. Matters not to me.


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« Reply #3 on: 26 March 2009, 23:22:57 »

If its not too much of a change, I feel the Hellhound would be the best fit. In my view they are meant to have been actual creatures durin' the War of the Chosen and have more of a mythical aspect now as they disappeared after the War. Would also work with lack of saddle. I haven't really set out the apperance for this creature, but the height is already decided on in the Rast entry, makin' it the largest. I picture it havin' thicker legs, a taller torso, fur that is a somewhat faded flame red color, with blood red or yellowish orange eyes. (Thar thoughts?)

As for the current warg, one thing that sticks out is the neck. Kinda like the head's bent too far up for the angle. Anyways, don't have alot of time in the mornin' and gotta get ready for school.


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« Reply #4 on: 26 March 2009, 23:26:28 »

*pulls out Thesaurus* hmmm... I've used wonderfu... great.... terrific... awesome....I'm running out of superlatives here Seeker...

oh... Stupendous job Seeker. Love it buck


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« Reply #5 on: 27 March 2009, 00:46:19 »

Bravo, Seeker. You have surely made an old Orc (and several others) entirely happy with this single picture!

Now then, some comments.....

I shall let Garrett deal with the Warg/Hellhound, as she has more firm ideas than I about this beast.

The foreground Orc is undoubtedly an Oster-oc female. The overall slenderness of her frame and head preclude her being male, as they are generally much thicker-set/muscular.
Her garb and shield are very suggestive of her being some kind of Elite Guard, although they wear all-black when on guerilla operations, so this is obviously some other battle. I like her war-paint as well. Simple but effective. Although they tend to have these designs on their legs as well. Her sword and armour are obviously not Orcen, looking instead suspiciously Elven in design. We must assume that they are the spoils of war, not uncommon throughout the tribes.

The Rochock (Wargrider) is probably not Osther, as they tend to ride Boardrak. However, this is a fairly recent development, and without knowing when the depicted event took place I can't be certain. For those who are interested, Alysse and I decided that Choan would have considered the amount of meat needed to feed a large contingent of Wargs better utilised in feeding her troops, therefore she decided to seek a cheaper alternative. The Wargs' tendency to attack it's rider also played a part in this decision.
I think you may be right, Seeker. The Rochok is probably Rhom-oc, as they have always had an almost telepathic connection with Wargs, and perhaps this extended to Hellhounds as well? The 'no saddle' and 'mane gripping' style is also suggestive of them.

Once again Seeker, you astound me with the rapidity and accuracy of your artwork.

Have a good weekend, whatever you get up to.


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« Reply #6 on: 27 March 2009, 01:44:11 »

This is amazing Seeker, as per usual!

Would you be interested in drawing up a portrait for Drakus Vokynus (A Santharianised Dracula), one of the entries I'm working on at the moment?

I'll find the link to the in progress entry for you!

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« Reply #7 on: 27 March 2009, 03:03:27 »

Great job once again, Seeker! thumbup

Good to see so many fresh drawings being done, especially in a time where Judy, our buys Bard with the paintbrush, is a bit on hiatus.

I also see you do your research, and the interpretation with the dark hair is absolutely fine in my book. Again parts of this picture could surely also be cropped and used elsewhere, I always like that. Just listen to our dog/wolf expert (Garret) and our orc guys (like Tharoc) for fixing details here and there, but it's another piece that is straight to the point.

Oh, and a balde next can't be all that wrong - definitely a simpler task than this one methinks, yet also something we'll eagerly integrate!

Another Aura +1 from here, Seeker!


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« Reply #8 on: 27 March 2009, 04:19:16 »

What a dramatic picture! Very stunning composition and characters, Seeker! I really like it. thumbup

There are two small technical details that I noticed--the upper arm on the mounted orc seems disproportionately short, especially in comparison to the long forearms. And Gouran's extended arm seems to be longer than the other one--it's not immediately obvious because the other is partially wrapped in the cloak, but it does look longer. I only noticed these things the second time I looked at the picture.

I really like the elven woman's face--she's beautiful, but scary beautiful, like your black unicorn. Reminds me of Lara Flynn Boyle as "Serleena" in Men In Black II

Anyway, congrats on another great artwork!

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« Reply #9 on: 27 March 2009, 05:17:14 »

Hard, chisled, cold, cruel. Perfect image for the elf

The creepy, bestial, yet almost alien look really works for the warg and orcs, its a great picture all around

I'll bet you could also take the warg-rider out, and finish the pose, give the orc entry another great standalone picture.


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« Reply #10 on: 27 March 2009, 05:26:04 »

Thanks for the comments so far. I can take care of all these comments rather easily. I will work with Garrett to get the Hell Hound in proper order. I will be able to provide the Warg, the warg and its rider, and the "female" Orc all in there own pics alone. They are on separate layers. Keep the suggestions coming.

Tharoc I didn't even realize I was drawing a female Orc. Did I at least make her good looking? I can't tell. *Seeker mumbles* Stunted green barbarians.


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« Reply #11 on: 27 March 2009, 11:58:57 »

All right here is the deal. After doing more research I see that the Hellhound is supposed to be about 2 peds tall. That is as tall as Gouran herself. So that combination won't work for this picture. The options are:

1) Separate the Hellhound and its rider into a separate picture and make it the proper size and color.
2) Keep the Warg in this picture as is and call it a Rast Warg instead.

Any votes?


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« Reply #12 on: 27 March 2009, 11:59:55 »

Rast Warg


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« Reply #13 on: 27 March 2009, 12:01:46 »

The Rast is completely different and in the Southern continent. Goin' with one of the current Orc mounts is a better choice. If thats meant to be close to a Rhom-oc I can work up some details on that one or Thar can. Though the no saddle might be an issue. Somethin' to discuss with Tharoc.

However, my vision of the Rhom-oc Warg isn't much different, though with more refined features, but for a older, rougher depiction, it looks good in my opinion aside from a few minor things. Though Tharoc might have a different idea.