Picture of Gouran(Avath'cao) with Warg and Orcs

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Re: Picture of Gouran(Avath'cao) with Warg and Orcs

« Reply #15 on: 28 March 2009, 04:47:35 »

@ Seeker: 'Good looking' is'nt a term I've seen applied to an Orcess before now. But as far as it goes, I suppose she is handsome enough, in a 'rough' kind of way.

As far as the Warg issue goes, if we agree that this is meant to be a Rhom-oc warg, then I'm perfectly happy for it to remain saddle-less. The Rhom-oc have an almost telepathic understanding with their mounts and I would suggest that this allows them to ride 'bare-back' as they would automatically know what the warg was going to do next. Saddle-less and rein-less is the more natural way for them to ride, methinks.
As for size, I'll have a word with Garrett and get back to you asap.


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« Reply #16 on: 28 March 2009, 07:12:46 »

@ Seeker: Perhaps if you had the warg lying down beside Gouran, then it could still be a Hellhound sized one. They'd have to lie down in order for their riders to mount anyway. Just a thought.

Re: good-looking orcesses: Tharoc, what about Choan? While not necessarily next in line for Playorc's "Playmate of the Year" Award, she's pretty "good-looking", don't you think?


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« Reply #17 on: 30 March 2009, 18:42:29 »

@ Tharoc: Watch it! *tosses her hair* grin


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Re: Picture of Gouran(Avath'cao) with Warg and Orcs

« Reply #18 on: 30 March 2009, 23:27:04 »

Sorry, Grun.

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Re: Picture of Gouran(Avath'cao) with Warg and Orcs

« Reply #19 on: 01 April 2009, 01:02:45 »

Lets make this one a Rhom-Oc Warg. Garret and Tharoc just let me know what I need to do in order to make it look like one.

As far as the Hell Hound goes. I think a creature of its magnitute deserves to be the focal point of its own picture. Making it secondary to to another(even Gouran) does not do it justice. Once the HellHound has its own entry with all the details I will request to take on the task to draw the Hellhound properly.


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« Reply #20 on: 01 April 2009, 04:10:24 »

I need to consult with Garret about the Rhom-oc Warg, Seeker. She's tasked with developing it.
She's/he's a little busy at the moment, so it may take a few days.

She/he'll be jumping for joy when she/he finds out about the Hell Hound picture!


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Re: Picture of Gouran(Avath'cao) with Warg and Orcs

« Reply #21 on: 02 April 2009, 12:23:27 »

Well I made the minor suggested changes to Gouran and the she-Orc. As you can see I took out the Warg for now. Garret is working on some details for the Rhom-Oc Warg. I will finish that part of the picture once those are ready. For now I'll take any more suggestions for the rest of the picture presented here.


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Re: Picture of Gouran(Avath'cao) with Warg and Orcs

« Reply #22 on: 03 April 2009, 15:48:38 »

That is another great picture, Seeker. I love the way you put her on that hill. I have to copy this at some point

I miss the second orc. Though the composition is now better, because she has more room to the left, which was a bit taken away from the warg, this one female orc is not enough. I miss the one on the other side. Now the orc is her (only?) companion, when the two were in the picture, I had the impression, a whole tribe stands behind her.

Some minor observations:

- Ear - isn't it sitting a bit low? Could be a bit bigger as well.
- The left arm looks a bit awkward, as if she has an additional joint. Why is she hiding it? (Oh, I haven't read the entry) --> edit: She is holding her cape! That is probably the most difficult part of the pic.

- The bow, is it transparent? it looks, as if the dress is shining through.

- I have some problems with your light /shading. I think at some points there is light where shade should be, but that is difficult to repair, so just leave it this time.

- In my opinion, the female orc needs some sharper features, not everywhere, but maybe the face and front, as you have done it with the woman. I like very much the effect of Gouran's coat melting with the night, but her face and arm is sharp, the orc misses that, yet.

I like that pattern on her dress, a nice little feature which adds a lot.

The background looks a little bit unfinished as well, maybe try a sharp line somewhere.


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« Reply #23 on: 04 April 2009, 00:54:28 »

I'll work up some warg stuff this weekend, run it by Tharoc, then send it to you. Sorry, but this last week before spring break has been kinda long.


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Re: Picture of Gouran(Avath'cao) with Warg and Orcs

« Reply #24 on: 04 April 2009, 11:46:18 »

Made the updates that I think/hope Talia was referring to. Art as I mentioned before it is up to you if you want to use any of this for the current update. You may want to wait until the Warg portion is complete. Then again, I may also get some more suggestions for improvement.


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« Reply #25 on: 06 April 2009, 01:14:21 »

I'll take the seperate pic of the orcress for now as an additional picture for the Osther-Oc as it was suggested

The whole picture and its various parts will then be added in the next update at the appropriate entries!


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Re: Picture of Gouran(Avath'cao) with Warg and Orcs

« Reply #26 on: 19 May 2009, 02:58:13 »

Hey guys,

I would like to finish up this picture of Gouran including the warg and both Orcs.

I have been waiting for Garret to provide a description of a new Rhom Warg because we determined it would be the best fit. However, Garret , bless her heart, seems to be swamped with school finals and then she will be gone for the summer. *Seeker gives a nod of approval to Garret for having priorities straight*

Do you guys feel comfortable opening this pic back up for comments and then I can make final changes as is. I would like to get this finished and posted. If Garrett provides the Rhom Warg update soon I will make changes. Otherwise I can always make the changes later and have it reposted. Then there is no pressure on her.


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« Reply #27 on: 19 May 2009, 03:29:30 »

Ok, so I see that the initial warg will end up at one point as an own picture representing the hell hound, right? Cause the beast definitely is pretty cool, so I'd love to see that one done. And I'm sure Garret being the canine developing person that she is will enjoy writing an entry for that one, eh?

Well, let's also hope she can provide the basic details to complete the warg that should go into this pic before she disappears in the holidays...

So, anyway, back to this picture - what could still be done? Only thing I can think of is to add a bit more drama to the background, be it the sky or the fog below which looks a bit regular right now. Maybe some transparent fog could be salvaged from the old version of the Kroax picture, and make the scene more eerie (yeah, I admit it, I'm a fog person!). Something in that direction perhaps?


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« Reply #28 on: 19 May 2009, 04:35:45 »

This is a bit confusing so let me clarify.

Garrett is working on two Warg entries.

1) Rhom-Oc Warg- Which is what the warg in this picture will be. I will provide it in the pic as part of Gouran and will provide it standalone as well. since it is on a separate layer. This is the one I would like to finish up now even though the description is not complete.

2) Hellhound- I offered to create that pic as a standalone pic once the entry is created. I have not worked on that pic yet.


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« Reply #29 on: 19 May 2009, 05:51:49 »

I've got the Rhom Warg apperance section done and it looks like that is all I have time for before I leave. However, that is currently in Tharoc's hands as he's takin' a look at it and makin' a few comments before I post it (or at least he should be). So he's the one ya need to bug 'bout it.

The Hellhound is on my list to at least describe when I get back, but the first month I get back from my graduation trip will be hectic as my dad will be movin' while I'm gone this summer, so will be comin' back to a strange place. Gotta love the fact that I get to come back from exploring somewhere new to me, only to explore yet another new place. However, gettin' the Rhom Warg and Hellhound entries are on my list of things to do as soon as I get back.

Considered workin' on some Santh stuff from time to time over the summer when I'm movin' from place to place, but gotta keep my promise to myself and work on my book/longer story thats been in progress for the last two years.

Anyways, thats pretty much where I am with this project. The next month will be hectic cause of school stuff, I probably won't be too active the two months after that as I'll be traveling, and then the month after I get back I'll be settlin' in to a new home and lookin' for a job. So probably won't get too much done, but don't start auctionin' off my Kyranians, Aohu'o, and canines off to the highest bidder while I'm traveling.


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