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« on: 15 May 2009, 01:32:58 »

This is a game played by human children in the province of Nermeran, especially those near the Silvermarshes.  A large group of children form a ring, in which one child (the “hobbit” stands, as the others dance around, chanting the verse.  With each new verse, another child is chosen by the “hobbit” to enter the ring.  During the last verse, which is generally chanted very loudly, all children except the last child (the “loaf of bread”) re-join the circle.  Traditionally, the "loaf" becomes the next "hobbit".

The game is simply called "Once there was a Hobbit".

Once there was a Hobbit,
Once there was a Hobbit,
Once there was a Hobbit,
In the Helmondshire.

The Hobbit took a lady,
The Hobbit took a lady,
The Hobbit took a lady,
In the Helmondshire.

The couple had a child,
The couple had a child,
The couple had a child,
In the Helmondshire.

The child had a puppy,
The child had a puppy,
The child had a puppy,
In the Helmondshire.

The puppy caught a fuzzle,
The puppy caught a fuzzle,
The puppy caught a fuzzle,
In the Helmondshire.

The fuzzle took a bread loaf,
The fuzzle took a bread loaf,
The fuzzle took a bread loaf,
In the Helmondshire.

There sits the loaf of bread,
There sits the loaf of bread,
There sits the loaf of bread,
In the Helmondshire!

More verses may be added as desired ( usually, additional "animals" such as the hobbithorse, pgymy goat, or hogling) but this is the standard version.  One version simply adds a line to each verse:

Once there was a Hobbit,
In the Helmondshire.

Once there was a Hobbit,
The Hobbit took a lady,
In the Helmondshire.

Once there was a Hobbit,
The Hobbit took a lady,
The couple had a child,
In the Helmondshire.

etc, etc.  This is a faster paced game and is often done with larger groups, so that more children can have turns in the centre.

(This is (obviously) a Santherian version of "The Farmer in the Dell".  There are variations of this game all over the world, so I thought we should have something like it in Santharia.)

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« Reply #1 on: 15 May 2009, 04:22:32 »

Haha.. lovely, Alysse.   Looks good.  There could, of course, be more verses for more children?  Most often ad libbed at the time?
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« Reply #2 on: 15 May 2009, 04:51:53 »

Hi Alysse,

Yes, lovely! I like fuzzles, and have got my own plans for them.

What happens to the poor 'loaf of bread', left over at the end to bake in the middle? Is it going to be the next hobbit?

I also thought that there could be a variation, whereby each verse repeats the lines of all previous verses, so that the story gets longer and longer until at the end all is told. So, for example, it could go:


Once there was a Hobbit
In the Helmondshire.

Once there was a Hobbit,
The Hobbit took a lady,
In the Helmondshire.

Once there was a Hobbit,
The Hobbit took a lady,
The couple had a child,
In the Helmondshire.

etc.

... until in the last verse the story is complete. I've seen songs that work like this. But actually, I should probably just get my own fuzzle song out, instead of needlessly trying to meddle with this sweet song of yours!  rolleyes Anyway, I enjoyed reading this.

Shabakuk  :)

PS: You may want to complete the punctuation in the first verse; two commas and a period are missing.


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« Reply #3 on: 16 May 2009, 01:09:36 »

Punctuation fixed!


Thanks for the comments, guys, I appreciate it.  hug  hug


@Atario:  Of course--there are plenty of "hobbit" animals that can be added--pony, goat, hogling--this was just  the basic version.  Mind you, there still have to be enough children to make a "ring" around the group, so it's very adaptable to larger groups as well.  Kind of like the kindergarden game "Duck, Duck, Goose".

@Shabakuk:  I do like the idea of adding a line per verse--that could certainly be one version of the game as well.  And yes, the "loaf" is the hobbit for the next round.  I will add a bit to my explanation.
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« Reply #4 on: 16 May 2009, 05:52:39 »

Shabakuk, we have a song like that in Dutch.

It's about a tree in the mountains. And on the tree grew a branch, and then a leaf, and a nest, and a chick, and a feather, and a hat... And so on. And then every time one is added, you 'count back' so to speak, so that in the very end the song goes

'And the end of the tail, and tail of the goat - of the stable - of the house - of the man - of the woman - of the hat - of the feather - of the chick - of the nest - of the leaf - of the branch - of the tree. And the tree was standing on the mountains!' And this as fast as possible without mispronouncing or switching words ;)

(instead of the dash, imagine 'and the (last object) of the (new object)')

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« Reply #5 on: 16 May 2009, 22:25:08 »

And in German - I remember Talia singing it for us at the first Moot!

We have one that Kath loves me to sing:

"Egg in the nest and the nest on the branch, branch on the limb and the limb on the tree, tree on the ground and the green grass growing all around, all around, and the green grass growing all around....."

An even better one is an old drinking song called "The Barley Mow"!   Watch it here on YouTube:  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jTjEz4w4dwo  and then tell me what the words are... :)    The words are clearer here but nothing to watch:  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x067YuXIlo8&feature=related

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« Reply #6 on: 16 May 2009, 23:18:48 »

We have one like it in California also, but there it is a stump or a log, and in either a swamp or dell. Not that we play a game with it, it is more of a traveling song. Keeps kids amused during long car rides.
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« Reply #7 on: 17 May 2009, 06:43:26 »

Well, then!

Let's get a few more Santherian versions out, shall we?  I challenge you--pick our own area and write a regional variation--drinking song OR children's song, take your choice!

You don't have to write it in the language of your region either (although I HAVE written some songs in orcish and Kuglim'seitre)  We can just work on Sarvonian versions.  I'm sure the hobbits and elves have them too. 

Let's see, what would an orcish version sound like, anyway? (chortles evilly...)

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« Reply #8 on: 17 May 2009, 07:13:15 »

Ha ha!

Here’s the orcling version.

The young orcs form a circle and pick a “warrior” for the centre.  In turn, he chooses a “bride”, a “son”, a  “warg” and a “foe” from the ring, while they circle him, chanting the song.  On the last verse, “caught a foe”, the circle closes in as tightly as they can, and once they reach the final line of this verse, “And great was the killing, oh!”, they all give bloodcurdling shrieks, leap on the enclosed group and the game degenerates into an every-orc-for-himself brawl.  A lot like most orcling games, really.

A mighty warrior roamed the land,
Roamed the land
A mighty warrior roamed the land,
And great was the killing, oh!

Then the warrior took a bride,
Roamed the land,
took a bride,
Then the warrior took a bride,
And great was the killing, oh!

And the warrior had a son,
Roamed the land,
took a bride,
had a son,
And the warrior had a son,
And great was the killing, oh!

Then the warrior trained a warg,
Roamed the land,
took a bride,
had a son,
trained a warg,
Then the warrior trained a warg,
And great was the killing, oh!

And the warrior caught a foe,
Roamed the land,
took a bride,
had a son,
trained a warg,
caught a foe,
And the warrior caught a foe,
And great was the killing, oh!

(general mayhem ensues)


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« Reply #9 on: 17 May 2009, 08:25:54 »

Fine - a bard can never resist a dare, even when she hasn't time for it... so... here's one from the Marcoggians...




There was an old miser, and he had a purse,
Whatever he spent from it t'was to the worse.

He bought him a house - and in moved a mouse.
Burnt house with a brand, and bought him some land.
The land it was dried, so he found him a bride.
The bride she turned sour, and took back her dower.

Dower from bride, land that was dried,
Burnt-up old house, crust shared with a mouse,
Gone to the worse from the old miser's purse!






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« Reply #10 on: 17 May 2009, 08:32:15 »

@ Alysse. Did you purposefully have the orc having a son before he took a wife? And don't forget (as if!) taking a wife is a relatively new thing for the orcs. They usually just take a female (or three).
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« Reply #11 on: 17 May 2009, 08:37:48 »

Depending on the version of this song ... the song 'She'll be coming round the mountain when she comes' is another song that adds on extra words/actions.

Another one that springs to mind is 'The Court of King Caracticus' (I know my spelling of his name is wrong)

Then there is one for very very young children ... about Gorillas and then Flamingos ... two at first, then those two get another two, then those 4 get another 4 etc ... and they do various things in accordance with the words. After the gorillas do their bit then the flamingos do their bit ... this one is a bit different to the songs/games in this thread but it is still kind of related.
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« Reply #12 on: 17 May 2009, 08:52:32 »

The verse about the bride comes first...though I admit in the repetition it does sound as if the son comes first.   I'll change that around.

But you're thinking about the Losh-Oc--not all orcs just help themselves to females.  The Osther'Oc give males and females equal status, so this would be okay for them.


@Deklitch:  I don't think I actually know "The Court of King Caracticus" or whatever his name might be.  Are you offering to try a Santharian version? (laughs mischievously)


Way to go, Judy!  I knew you'd rise to the challenge magnificently!  Come on, anyone else?  Show us what'cha got...
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« Reply #13 on: 17 May 2009, 08:59:45 »

Here you go Alysse, The Court of King Caractacus, as sung by Rolf Harris. What a guy!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SqkzR0ADOa8
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« Reply #14 on: 17 May 2009, 09:06:38 »

 rofl

 rofl

That's hysterical!

I want to learn that...Thank you, Tharoc!
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