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« on: 25 November 2009, 16:17:05 »

Something I have noticed and am slightly confused over is the interchangeability of Drake and Dragon people seem to use on the boards. It is possible the instances where this occur are old and out of date. Some of the main pages don't necessarily differentiate between the two, and some of the entries don't as well.

From what I can tell on the site, Drake is used to categorize between Greater and Lesser. Lesser Drakes are generally "drakes" and not "dragons", while Greater Drakes are "dragons", not "drakes". Correct? Some of the "Drakes" written, I feel should be more "Dragons", and perhaps there are some which are vice versa.

Would love to discuss this with anyone willing to pitch in, as I think this area of the creatures hasn't been touched enough. :p 

Also, I was wondering if I could possibly revisit the Gold Drake/Dragon entry while working on the Silver? It could really be fleshed out a bit and updated, as it seems fairly old.
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« Reply #1 on: 25 November 2009, 16:32:03 »

Was not the definition, that dragons are to a more or less extent sentient, where drakes are mere beasts?
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« Reply #2 on: 25 November 2009, 16:33:33 »

I edited my post while you posted, Talia. Very sorry.

I believe you are correct, but many of the entries don't seem to mirror this definition, hence my curiosity of the boards in general. It is just possible that many of the entries do need some updates to be in correlation with the definition.

Also, I am curious why some of the Chromatic "Drakes/Dragons" are under the Lesser, or is this simple to differentiate Santharia from other worlds? If so, this may change my approach to my entry.

Most of the Chromatics are considered sentient and semi-sentient, even though there are some which act more beast-like. And in the entries, they are given sentient characteristics, but not listed as Dragons/Great Drakes.

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« Reply #3 on: 25 November 2009, 19:09:39 »

I think to put all of this simply: I feel the Draconic system needs a bit of reorganization.
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« Reply #4 on: 25 November 2009, 22:37:50 »

Whew...this will be quite the job housecleaning the Draconic system...

First, I give all the respect and love to dragon developers over the years. Having said that, I think there are far too many dragons about (much like demons). We're overloaded with them!

First, the sentient vs. non-sentient is a rather grey area. Not all great drakes are sentient (the Ancythrian blade-serpent) while others are (red dragon). I also think very few dragons are sentient as most of the entries never mention it.

The categorization is also not right for some dragons. For example, I think the Spirit dragon belongs under Mythical. I think the Lindorm, Bladeserpent and Hydragon Worm should be under Monsters, not drakes.

Under Mythical, the only one I really feel belongs is the Resonance dragon. I do not like the Netherwyrm and won't use it in Osthemangar. I also think the Shapechanger dragon doesn't work well either.

At one point, I was going to help revise the dragons located in the North. I started with the Ice dragon, but Fox reminded me that she had plans to revise it, so ask her about that. I also have an undead/cursed Ice dragon in the Mists (mentioned in the entry) which Fox asked to create a full entry on (Ezzorak'laddan).

I have plans for a creature called the Spined Wyrm in the Mists, but am unsure how to classify it.

I also think the usages of Wyrm, Drake, and Dragon are confusing.

Anyway, good luck! I'll be glad to help for the Northern varieties of you wish.
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« Reply #5 on: 25 November 2009, 23:00:57 »

Look what i found for you guys;

Morcaanan on Dragon species reorganisation.
Rakshiri/Morcaanan/Others on the species v/s individuals subject
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« Reply #6 on: 25 November 2009, 23:09:09 »

Pfft!

The Search function is SOOO yesterday! Who needs that?  :P

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« Reply #7 on: 25 November 2009, 23:11:32 »

... people who'd like to KNOW about yesterday? :P

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« Reply #8 on: 26 November 2009, 03:01:54 »

Thanks Mira! My lack of being on the Dev side doesn't always make it clear on what has and has not been discussed!

I will see if I can't pick up where people left off, as it seems Morc and I had the very same thought pattern.
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