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« Reply #30 on: 22 December 2009, 00:10:23 »

Mira, what's the purpose of this? You are probably right with what is bigger/smaller. I won't go back and search why I had the impression of Sarvonia or Southern Sarvonia being really big. I think we thought about travel times and if Strata would really be impressed what happened in Nyermersys. There should be somewhere VERY old threads, but I see no reason why to spend time with that I could use elsewhere. As if you have not enough space in Nybelmar and a LOT to do there and flesh out as well. Maybe you gave your tribes too much room. When I think what happened all in Germany and the surrounding countries/realms - the many tribes there, the conflicts etc. So your square strals should be enough, don't you think so?
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« Reply #31 on: 22 December 2009, 13:54:09 »

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Bear in mind, gentle-folk, that mappage is a verrry difficult process - p'rhaps it'd serve us all better just to accept the travel times as written, and communicate in days and fortnights rather then peds or strals?
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« Reply #32 on: 22 December 2009, 23:32:20 »

Well personally Im not happy with the idea of Nybelmar being so miniscule...its only a few Texases long!

I had imagined the Peninsula of Shar to be as big as that!
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« Reply #33 on: 22 December 2009, 23:51:27 »

No way, Deci! If we would double the size, e.g., then Sarvonia would become too big, you need to think smaller ! :P
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« Reply #34 on: 22 December 2009, 23:52:10 »

Why cant Nybelmar be bigger but Sarvonia stay the same?
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« Reply #35 on: 22 December 2009, 23:57:27 »

Something isn't right here...

According to Talia's calculations, the diameter of the Disc is 32000 strals.

Using the Santharian measurements calculator:

32000 strals = 19884 miles

The diameter of Earth is 7926.3352 miles

So...Caelereth is much larger than Earth.

In other words, the Disc is bigger, but the continents are small. I propose we simply bump up those map scales.
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« Reply #36 on: 23 December 2009, 00:33:59 »

Here are the comparisons to Europe.  I am glad this post is helping.
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« Reply #37 on: 23 December 2009, 00:39:57 »

We should probably use the circumference of the Earth (not the diameter since Caelerath is a disk not an orb)  which is 24,901.55 miles at the equator.
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« Reply #38 on: 23 December 2009, 01:00:36 »

I think size of the diameters etc. is not as important as the area, since that is realistically the most important thing. So what if its the same crossection as the earth?

So here's so Deci maths:



EARTH MATHS

Im treating Earth as a smooth sphere for simplicity:

Surface Area of a sphere= 4 x pi x r^2

Radius of Earth (at the Equator)= 6,378.1km

Therefore:

Surface Area of Earth= 4 x 3.14 x (6,378.1 x 6,378.1)
                             = 510 942 804  km²



DISK MATHS

For practical purposes, the Surface of the Disk is basically a 2D shape

Now earlier on its said the Diameter of the Disk is 32000 strals

Area of a Circle= pi x r^2

                    = 3.14 x (16000x 16000)
                    =803 840 000 strals

1 stral= 1km

Therefore:

Surface of the Disk= 803 840 000km²



COMPARISON

Basically the Disk's area is bigger than the earth, but the water dominates its surface more so than on terra. I just propose the continents are made bigger!!!
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« Reply #39 on: 23 December 2009, 01:01:28 »

Here are the comparisons to Europe.  I am glad this post is helping.

I can't deny that I don't feel slightly disappointed with this. We're developing landmasses that barely fit into Europe, or Alaska. I'm at a loss for words. Kinda takes the steam out of things real quick.  undecided
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« Reply #40 on: 23 December 2009, 01:07:37 »

I agree, Azhira.

The problem I see is not that Caelereth as a whole is too small, since it isnt, but the ratio of land to water is skewed extremely on the Disk....

I'm still standing by the 'Make Continents Bigger' argument...
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« Reply #41 on: 23 December 2009, 01:25:10 »

Problem with expanding the size of the continents, at least in the case of Southern Sarvonia, is that it would conflict with many developments. The Manthria map would  likely have to be redone, for instance.

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« Reply #42 on: 23 December 2009, 01:27:18 »

I dont think Nybelmar has this problem, especially since there is space for it to go and there is a new map in the works anyway
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« Reply #43 on: 23 December 2009, 01:29:43 »

Also, no mini-maps there :)

(i seem to have misplaced to 0's somewhere in my calculations.. probably reduced 16000 to 1600 by accident.
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« Reply #44 on: 23 December 2009, 01:39:52 »

I just realised something..


Koldars map is to small!

I thumbed out the screen with his scale stick, and got a measly 3000 stralls minus a bit, east to west. But Talia's reference measurements give; Nybelmar (East-West, North-South)  --> --->6785 strals x 4646 strals

Decipher, our continent is four times bigger than we always assumed! And Seeker's overlay is probably wrong as well, if he used the scale given on Koldar's map.
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