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« on: 10 February 2010, 12:48:31 »

Well here I am in the Thalambath Library.  While reading a fascinating book entitled "Notes on Impish Phylogeny" written by Khaius Onderfaust, I noted that many pages had been altered, old writings crossed out and new descriptions written in the margins.  On one page a wonderful picture of three green leprachaun creatures was crossed out with the words "INNACURATE" written over the top.  

Just at that moment my Imp Creature, a red variety,  came flapping his wings into the room and landed on a podium.  He was carrying a message for me.  It read in very simple words........"You have my permission Seeker"  the message was signed ---THAROC.  

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« Reply #1 on: 10 February 2010, 13:24:19 »

Oh! Ok I'll quick comment before bed.

First of all, he's a lovely creature. Thanks so much for working on him!  thumbup

- What drew my attention first was his head. As described, the head is a bit more triangular in shape rather than rounded. I pictured his face a little flatter with his horns sweeping backwards. Of course, horns pointing forward is good too as a variation. Imagine his head resembling a skull in a way. I do not know how best to describe it...I would start with maybe flattening his face a bit, and having not so much roundness atop the head. We'll try that first.  :)

- Second, his body shape looks a bit off. The shadow hides his midsection, but it looks larger. Perhaps make it a bit skinnier?

- His right leg looks fatter than the left. Maybe thin that out, too.

- The tail and hands look good.

- Maybe thin his neck a bit. It looks thick and loose in places. I think I envisioned a shorter neck with the head hanging low.

Hrm...that should do it for starters. But it was the head that made the imp unique. I know that may take some work though... grin
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« Reply #2 on: 11 February 2010, 02:45:30 »

The picture looks fantastic as far as I am concerned, Azhira's comments basically take care of what can still be improved at the imp to make it even more perfect :)

I've seen the picture already in a previous state (as it is planned to use the background for Santhworld). The the books and shadows weren't done yet as they are now, and I'm very happy with what you did with it - everything fits together now, brilliant! Seeing the imp now and the pedestal and everything, it might very well be possible that we give this guy a guest star role in the game, especially as we can use the pic as it is or the background only, so why not both if the plot allows it. Imps aren't capable of talking however and they communicate mainly with their tail I've read in Azhira's entry, so that might be a bit difficult to handle, but we'll think of something I'm sure.

Aura +1 for this tremendous piece of work, Seeker!
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« Reply #3 on: 11 February 2010, 06:33:00 »

I rarely keep in mind Santhworld when developing...perhaps I need to start! What you could do is describe the imps' communication with their tail. I thought about making them communicate via thoughts, but had no idea how to explain or introduce that into Santh! Perhaps someday. I am thinking the imps' do talk to *each other* through their minds, but left that to the reader to conjecture.
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« Reply #4 on: 11 February 2010, 07:06:01 »

Ahh! Those books! I want all those books at home!
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« Reply #5 on: 11 February 2010, 12:59:24 »

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I rarely keep in mind Santhworld when developing...perhaps I need to start! What you could do is describe the imps' communication with their tail. I thought about making them communicate via thoughts, but had no idea how to explain or introduce that into Santh! Perhaps someday. I am thinking the imps' do talk to *each other* through their minds, but left that to the reader to conjecture.
Perhaps a sign language based on the movements of their tails rather than arms like human sign languages?  Seems more plausible than telepathy to me.  Then again, magic exists, so maybe it's not that implausible after all.   :D
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« Reply #6 on: 11 February 2010, 14:49:16 »

Take off the wings and it looks like my little brother.  :P  Nice pic Seeker. :)
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« Reply #7 on: 11 February 2010, 19:12:20 »

Altario, shame on you, you should not talk about your family in this way and reveil those secrets yet unknown to us...   buck

Seeker, now I know what was irritating me yesterday. The imp is much less detailed and finely painted than the background, it is somehow a style break in the  picture. But I assume, you are getting at it later.
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« Reply #8 on: 12 February 2010, 00:40:45 »

The reason I did not have the imps with vocal speech is because I just could not imagine what their voice would sound like. Screechy? Squeaky? Deep? Whispery? All of the options seemed to not fit.
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« Reply #9 on: 12 February 2010, 00:49:08 »

How about a whispery telepathic voice?

Or a whispering/hissing voice which sounds like many voices in unison, as though all the imps are speaking as one?

Either could be used in conjunction with tail movements, in much the same way as orcs use facial gestures.
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« Reply #10 on: 12 February 2010, 04:08:50 »

Cool picture. :) Though I have to agree with Talia, right now the imp looks less detailed than the bookcases and the books themselves.


Btw, your "introduction to the picture" indicates that this is a Thalambath library, but I'm not sure if that's intended to be the case for the actual picture. If it *is* the Thalambath library, then right now it looks too much like the inside of a more European-flavoured stone castle. I am not sure if your intent was something specific, or if you specifically wanted it to be generic.

So of course, the picture works fine like that, but if you actually want it to depict a Thalambathian library, then there will need to adjustments in that area (I can give suggestions once I get confirmation on that point). Primarily just the stonework, the bookcases and so on are fine. Again, this is only if you choose to actually make it a picture of a Thala library, rather than something that can fit as any generic medieval library.

Keeping it generic makes it work better for Santhworld of course.

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« Reply #11 on: 12 February 2010, 04:46:06 »

Yeah Fox,

In this case, the intro part was just for fun. (I always like to let people know where Seeker is travelling)  The Library scene is mainly intended for Santhworld.  Of course I would also like to provide the background for an entry as well and like you said it wouldn't work well for a Thalambath Library.

So if there are any takers for a generic Library for another entry let me know folks.  Perhaps could be used in the Library Forum as well.
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« Reply #12 on: 12 February 2010, 04:47:03 »

I'd offer Remusiat.. but... we don't read. buck
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« Reply #13 on: 12 February 2010, 04:50:02 »

possibly Ximax?
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« Reply #14 on: 12 February 2010, 05:03:32 »

I guess now that we have a proper Library pic we might as well update our Library Forum pic, because the current picture is just patched together from something that remotely reminded of a "library". The picture might also find its way in a general Library entry on the site, e.g. where the details on handling Library entries are defined, or we could use it to represent a part of the Lorehold in an entry, or even the Compendium halls, yes even Ximax etc. - Lots of possibilities there :)
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