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Santhos Avathcin
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« Reply #15 on: 24 August 2008, 06:31:37 »
just one but a practical one
Urtdon - with a short o -Hello -derived from urt den or good day
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« Reply #16 on: 24 August 2008, 09:35:15 »
Mmmmm, thank you, but as the dwarven day is actually the human night, it would be odd for them to use that particular expression to greet each other.  Language springs from a deep understanding of culture and something so basic as a greeting needs to reflect that (for example, the Koreans use phrases that translate literally as 'Peace be with you' and 'Have you eaten rice yet today?', depending upon the formality of the situation!) 

'Urtdon' might be a general comment on the weather, except that caverns are pretty immune to weather changes, not to mention time of day....
However, I appreciate the concept - you seem to have spotted a gaping hole in the language - so I'll turn my energy to providing some ideas for dwarven greetings and partings!  Watch this spot.....
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« Reply #17 on: 13 September 2008, 20:24:58 »
Derived from the working of our wonderful Bard;

'Steward' -> 'Heoryim' (one who stores up)
'Stewards' (as seen in the Trumaden Heyim, 'Stewards of the Holy Blood' -> 'Heyim'
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« Reply #18 on: 26 December 2008, 23:34:42 »
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« Reply #19 on: 27 December 2008, 03:27:11 »
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« Reply #20 on: 31 December 2008, 05:42:10 »
Would UnSthommAverim (Derivate->Unsthoverim) be suiteable for "Bone"?
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« Reply #21 on: 31 December 2008, 09:44:41 »
Not a bad derivative, but something so basic shouldn't be an agglomeration, just a 'base' word.
I've wanted some cognates of 'sth' for a while anyhow, so you can have

Stho - bone
Sthonerons - bones
Sthoni - bony, osseous, calcified

Thohthom - skull
Mustho - skeleton
Grum - tooth
Grumerons - teeth


There, hope that helps!
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« Reply #22 on: 31 December 2008, 19:01:28 »
Quite, as such words are very useful in naming cave locations and such!
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« Reply #23 on: 31 December 2008, 20:03:43 »
*groans* I want a DictioDwarf! There are no colour words in the dictionary, but they áre referred to :P

I hoped to combine a word for green with life to make plant, and then add length for Vine.
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« Reply #24 on: 31 December 2008, 20:34:44 »
Oh, I'm sorry!  I know, I have a ton of words in my dictionary file that just have to be added yet.
I thought I'd posted the colour words to this thread at one point though....  ok, I'll search my various files:


black - Morsek
grey -
white -
pink - 
red - Oonsek
purple - Dasek
lavender -
light blue –
dark blue -
turquoise – Kasek (colour)
light green -
dark green -
yellow -
golden -
orange -

Right, that's embarrassing!  There don't seem to BE colour words in dwarven yet!  I hide my bardic head in shame.
Perhaps we could use a cognate from the ThergerimTaal for emerald and peridot and try 'Gnasek' for 'green'?

However, I can just give you a word for 'plant' - and a few more while I'm at it.

Plant – Stuon
Tree – Stukaor
Vine – Stukarolon
Moss – Krr
Moonmoss - Krruth
Bright – Urril
Shine, to – Urmi
Glow, to  - Uthuu



Oh, some more words which I'm not sure made it up yet:

Sekket – colourful
Katinn – outside, exterior
Som – ledge
Suk – Coal (the naturally-occurring material.  For ‘coals’, see ‘Sohnsuk’…)
Sohnsuk –  ember
Sohnsukerons – embers, hot coals
Ardeninn – Breathing
Arfuinn – Blowing, puffing
Sohnsuk Arfuinn – the game of ember-blowing
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« Reply #25 on: 31 December 2008, 20:38:59 »
Once again you have saved the day! Now i can finally URI Rookie's vine and add Dwarven terminology and views!

Oh, and; Aura point for providing much-needed info!
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« Reply #26 on: 31 December 2008, 20:41:35 »
(blushes) which I should've had onsite already, but thank you most graciously, dear Gardenlord!
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« Reply #27 on: 31 December 2008, 20:48:38 »
Consider is a speedy-delivery bonus. It took you but half an hour to get a scroll from New Santhala all the way to M'aghin!
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« Reply #28 on: 01 January 2009, 01:00:40 »
Just looking at the colour words you posted and the word sekket for "colourful," would it be reasonable to derive

sek(k?) "colour"...?

Oh, and for "dark green," could we possibly have krrsek (lit. "moss-colour")? Just throwing ideas around here, I've never tried my hand at the dwarf-tongue before.  :P
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« Reply #29 on: 01 January 2009, 01:37:03 »
As unsekket means coloured, sekk would probably be the most consistent choice.
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