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[Tharoc Wargrider]

Can't wait to hear it, Lionhorse!

[Artimidor Federkiel]

I could use the orcish words for "death" and "underground", if someone can put them together, the cooler they sound, the better. Or more precise: I'd need to have "underground graveyard" translated. This is meant to be used as a secondary name for an orcish graveyard/death pit near Crazy Woman Pass, where the remnants of the invading army were disposed. If you've got suggestions, please let me know!

[Tharoc Wargrider]

No sooner said than done, my liege!

The word for death is Morta. I already created this for Azzy's Mists entry.

As for graveyard, give me a few minutes and I'll come up with something for you.

And I'll be giving you a list of new words later as well!

EDIT: The underground part is easy, really. Just use Gob, which means cavern. Or I could create a new word based on that, if you prefer?

[Tharoc Wargrider]

Ok, a quick look through the Kh'omchr'om dictionary gave me:

Gob - cave/cavern
Ar - of
Rhom - field
Resz - tomb

Add to that my word:

Morta - death

And we get:  Gob'rhom Ar Morta  -  underground field of death. You could also use more apostrophes and get Gob'rhom'ar'morta.

Or:  Gob'resz  -  underground tomb.

I think the first one sounds much better, though, don't you?

[Alysse the Likely]

I like Gob'rhom'ar'morta, but do orcs bury their dead in a specific graveyard?  I'd think they might build stone cairns to them, but I'm not sure about the burying.  Perhaps Rhom'morta or Rhom'ar'morta as, loosely, "place of the dead"?  Just a thought.

[Tharoc Wargrider]

And here's my list of new words to add to the dictionary.

Jup'lako  -  (lit: Deep winds) from Azzy's Mists entry

Pan  -  drum

Cha  -  enchanted, ensorceled (not to be confused with Cha meaning female. The gestures made with each word are totally different!

Mort  -  dead

Morta  -  death

Mal  -  evil

Traag  -  dark  (Azzy's Mystran entry)

Vok  -  blood  (Azzy's Mystran entry)

Shan  -  water, ocean, river, lake. (depending on the accompanying gesture)

Batuk  -  plant, weed, grass  (anything that is not a bush or tree)

Vuckk!  -  curse/swear word. Roughly translates as Damn!

That's it so far, but I'll be adding to it soon with colours and directions, and possibly some terrain types.

[Tharoc Wargrider]

Whoops! I actually thought all that before I started typing, ALysse, but got carried away and forgot to mention it!

I agree that building cairns is perhaps as far as most tribes would go, and then only to noted warriors/heroes. However, as this graveyard holds the remains of an invading army, perhaps there wasn't enough time/wood around to build enough pyres for all the dead? Or maybe they hid the bodies here to prevent looting/desecration?
We'll have to see what Arti comes up with, eh?.......*whispers* But keep a close eye on him! Sage or no sage, we can't have him meddling in our Orcy affairs. 

[Artimidor Federkiel]

Thanks for the vocabulary/suggestions, Tharoc!

The orcs didn't bury their dead in this place, Alysse - at least this is the idea. The battle at Crazy Woman's path was the first attempt of the orcs to cross over to the southeast coast and they were repelled by a human contingent. These dead were thrown into a chasm/pit somewhere in the Mithral, as the humans didn't want to honour them with burning them (the typical orcish way of death, see Orcish Belief) or giving them a decent burial. That's why this place is also said to be haunted, cursed etc. But nobody knows today where it is exactly.

There might still be an orcish expression for this place, given that orcs also live in Southern Santharia. Maybe we could put together a word that also expresses that the place is cursed or at least that it's a place without honour for the orcs...

[Tharoc Wargrider]

OK, Arti, no problem. Just let me confer with my barbarian associate and we'll be right back!

EDIT: I created the Cha'Morta-oc for Azzy's Mists. The Cursed Death Orcs. I imagine something along those lines Alysse. What about you?

[Alysse the Likely]

Well, lets see:

noble, or honourable is "Ashz:, and you negate it with an "M", thus dishonourable would be "M'ashz.

cursed is "G'hun".


and perhaps "Rhom" could also translate as "place"?  So then they'd call it the G'hun'm'ashz'rhom, perhaps?

Tharoc, "Cha" translates as "female", not "cursed" (although to the L'osh-Oc that might be equivalent)  "Cha'Morta-oc" would be the Dead Female Orcs. (Sounds like a punk rock band or something.)   They could perhaps be the "G'hun'Morta-oc".

I thought we already had a word for "blood"  from the G'un't'lor (Cursed Blood ) disease?  Somebody's got to update that vocabulary list.


Alysse

[Tharoc Wargrider]

I accept full responsibility for creating the Cha'Morta-oc without checking the dictionary to see if I was re-creating any words. Only tonight has it come to my notice. I'll have to see Azzy about changing the name in her entry.

I'm slowly creating/collecting new words for the dictionary, but I suppose a re-vamp/tidy-up would be in order pretty soon. Toss you for it?

[Alysse the Likely]

That may need to wait until we get a few more words together.  Art had a program we use to add new dictionary words but (blush) I don't remember how to access it.  I expect it's probably easy once you figure it out, but I am SO technically inept... 


Alysse

[Tharoc Wargrider]

Me too! Our talents obviously lie elsewhere.

[Altario Shialt-eck-Gorrin]

The Santharian Language Editor... If you can work the Name Generator, you can work this one.  Even I figured it out

[Alysse the Likely]

If you say so...but I think that Tharoc and I are idea people.

Warped ideas maybe...but ideas are our strong point.

So can you show me?  And BTW, speaking of ideas, and since you are a fellow northerner, would you mind casting an eye over my Choan of Orc entry to make sure it doesn't create any problems for your Northern plans?  Or if it does, we can figure out how to integrate it.


Much thanks,


Alysse

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