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« on: 05 June 2001, 17:51:00 »

Okay. I had been using "General Santharian Discussions for other things like pixies, islands, dragons, etc., and would like some of them moved to more appropriate sections. (If possible) "Pixies," and "Pixie Language" should be put under races, "Island/Continent" under geography, and "Dragon Species" under either races or creatures. (Are dragons considered a race? They'll be in the bestiary, right. So they must be beasts. Intelligent beasts. But that's what humans are. Confused....      Best put them under beasts, then.)

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« Reply #1 on: 05 June 2001, 22:30:00 »

I think they are a race.......

BTW, what is a prinothan overlord?

Edited by: Greybark at: 6/5/01 5:31:07 am
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« Reply #2 on: 06 June 2001, 11:55:00 »

Prinothan overlord - indeed, never heard of that one. *grin*

Hmmm... My Bestiary book says that the dragon isn't a race, but a beast, and I guess due to the fact that dragons mainly keep to themselves, I wouldn't see them as a race. They are mythical beasts I'd say, so I'd say we leave them in the bestiary for now (where they are currently) until some scientists prove the contrary.

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« Reply #3 on: 06 June 2001, 22:16:00 »

****In an secret undertree workshop somewhere deep in the Vale****

"Igor! Bring me that dragon scale again! We must make it talk! Anything that talks is a race! Pour the oak/mushroom elixir on it now, carefully.....what happened to your ear igor? Where is it? I told you not to get this elixir on yourself, now, didn't I?"

Note: results from the lab may take *quite* awhile....

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« Reply #4 on: 07 June 2001, 00:41:00 »

So THAT'S why I've been frantically unable to find any mention of the dragons under the Race section! But couldn't they be a race of mythical beasts?? They have their own tongue and all and there's hundreds of dragons, and they're smart and they even have their own cosmological beginning and they think so therefore they are...a race?? :lol  


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« Reply #5 on: 07 June 2001, 11:44:00 »

Hmmm... That's right, on the other hand. But shouldn't we discern somehow between dragons who can speak and those who can't, perhaps? What is a drake? What is a wyvern? Questions over questions...

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« Reply #6 on: 07 June 2001, 12:52:00 »

Art is indeed right. We have the Smauglike dragons, who enjoy speech, intelligence (and a sense for riddles), on the other hand the giant worms that simply are: big animals.

So you might want to divide them in two parts, namely the intelligent version and the animal version, like humans are a race and apes not. I agree with that on Greybark, it talks, is intelligent, and thus a race.

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« Reply #7 on: 07 June 2001, 18:56:00 »

Thanx Artimidor!:)  

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« Reply #8 on: 08 June 2001, 03:16:00 »

It's a matter of approach, really. biologically - all beasts are races! and some of them are beasts ( even humans sometimes ;)  ) Maybe you'd like to restrict the 'races' section to humanoids only?

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« Reply #9 on: 08 June 2001, 10:22:00 »

Well, as mentioned already elsewhere: The difference between races and beasts is: Are the creatures blessed with the spirit of Avá (according to elven lore)? Dragons are. At least most. Other creatures/animals were created by the Gods and serve mainly to maintain the circle of life.

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« Reply #10 on: 08 June 2001, 10:38:00 »

gotcha, boss :)  

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« Reply #11 on: 08 June 2001, 10:46:00 »

race - 1) any of several subdivisions of mankind sharing certain physical characteristics, esp colour of skin, colour and type of hair, shape of eyes and nose 2) group of people having a common culture, history or language 3) used as an adjective 4) main division of any living creatures  (defination courtesy of the Oxford Student's Dictionary of Current English, thank you A.S Hornby, saviour of my teenage composition years)

Anyway, noticed how most of the terminology used is exclusively in terms of mankind as in people? Dragon bigotry! Dragon bigotry! Actually all sorts of non-human bigotry!!! Down with human imperialism! Rise up, my downtrodden mammal friends!! Find your true path as the inheritors of the World!!!!

...ahem, Ace Ventura hysterics aside :)  the last defination seems to fit the Great Dragon Debate as a Responsible and Tax-Paying Santharian race most satisfactorily imho.

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« Reply #12 on: 08 June 2001, 16:43:00 »

Taxpaying?
I never heard of a dragon giving away his treasure for free?!?!
I think dragons see tax inspectors as welcomed meal coming always just at the right time. :)

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« Reply #13 on: 08 June 2001, 17:01:00 »

of coarse that was untill the SIRS(santharian internal revenues Servive) started hireing dragons of there own, Big ones, now most of the dragons pay there taxes(although they always cheat on them)

Edited by: Xenos Ravenbeack  at: 6/8/01 12:04:32 am
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« Reply #14 on: 11 June 2001, 09:45:00 »

yaya....

it's kind of a leader of a prinothan people..

what's prinoth?

ok... something to do with western Akdor, a people, not like any other, cant compare it with orcs or smthng... closest is a centaur, which is still miles away

Ok will finish the tarot and the mermaids first :s

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