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[Drúadan]

Perhaps some sort of radical traveled far and realized the foolishness of their tribe's beliefs, and traveled south towards santharia? He/She could have even met up with the Kuglimz {Sp?} tribeswoman Alysse. Could base the entry of of his/her knowledge...
But that sounds to easy...simple, i guess. Just a random thought. I agree, the current description sounds wierd, though it is an interesting idea for a belief system. Kind of a different approach. Haven't read the entry, but they could even be semi-atheist. 

Done spouting random ideas for now.

[Bard Judith]

In the Scattersands Shoals entry, although the small paragraph on 'Zandiria' seems to suggest that the name of the island is actually "Zardinia", nowhere else, including the map, is it called that.   Which sorta makes this rather redundant, or at the very least confusing.  Or perhaps only the saying calls it 'Zardinia'?  If so, why is this little detail necessary, when even the song and the map use the other name?   :?!?


"Saying that an action is like "trying to sail to Zardinia" is also referring to the Shoals, although not in a direct way. The treacherous reefs around Zandiria (note the spelling) have conjured the image of the impossibility task to reach the isle. The aforementioned saying is based on this fact, but over time, the name was mixed up. As few people know the names of the Shoals, only the more educated will realise the error in the saying. "

[Rookie Brownbark]

We still have both the "Onions" Entry and the "Ae'lons - Weeproot and Her Sisters" Entry under the Vegetable section of the herbarium.  Wasn't the Ae'lons Entry supposed to be an update of the Onions one?   Also, the Onions entry is linked in this entry Fever Reducers and Purifiers rather than the Ae'lons one.

Also - from the Lotann Flower Entry:

"When dried the root is also suitable as a coffee substitute, but it's not a very convincing coffee tough, as it smells weird and tastes faintly of soil."

[Ta`lia of the Seven Jewels]

Territory. In the Santharian Kingdom there exist 3 main Hobbit shires with no more than a few thousand members each. Every shire is maintained and run by a so-called "Thain", which can be compared to a mayor in the human towns and villages. The office of the Thain is inherited from father to son. The Santharian shires are as follows:

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      The Helmondsshire (located south of the Silvermarshes, northeast of the Thaelon)




located north of the silvermarsches according the map
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Family and ancestry has always been an important part of Hobbit culture, and most Hobbits find the topic of genetics and ancestry absolutely fascinating, and something they are indeed quite proud of. They enjoy, especially, telling others of their family history, putting the links of genetics and marriage together to date their bloodline back to the first Hobbit to ever come up with pipeweed or the Hobbit Dalireen, who is said to have become a deity after Nehtor heard her song.

I'm not sure, if this is the kind of "genetics" we want to have eliminated..

[Ta`lia of the Seven Jewels]

I looked at the description quite some time  as I often mix up west and east, but this one is wrong, Vezash is in the west of the Elverground, not the east!

People. The Elverground is one of those places where deer, sheep and birds, each quite easily outnumber the humans who live on the open elverground. Vezash is the only major town on the Elverground with a population of about 600 indviduals. Other than this there are, In total, no more than nine villages and homesteads on the Elverground, containing perhaps at most 200 individuals. Those who do live here, however, make up one of the most multi-racial rural communities in Santharia. The far east and west of the area are dominated by humans. Vezash on the far eastern fringe of the Elverground represents the old capital of the Eagle clan of the Eyelians, an ancient human ribe. The people who live, both in Vezash itself and in villages around it on the eastern Elverground tend to be from this ethnic background. The area was originally settled and belonged to Ealgor. We know his lands encompassed all of the Elverground, what we know now as the Vale of the Brownies and the southern foothills of the Rimmerins Ring.

The western Elverground is also populated by humans, and their roots may well lie in the Sophronian kingdom that once stood here, though the western Elverground has changed hands more often and seen more migration than any other part of the plain.

This paragraph is a bit confusing in my eyes. It says, there are  nine villages  with not more than 200 inhabitants each, they make up one of the most multi-racial rural communities in Santharia. Though Hobbitland and elven land mixes in the middle of the Elverground there is a distinct area for each tribe, I suppose. Are there no pure hobbit villages? And do they really come as far as the Zeiphyrian forest?
Maybe Wren could look into this sometimes.
There are two spelling errors as well.

I only wanted to know, if these hobbits could grow some wine!

[Tharoc Wargrider]

In the Compendium entry "THE KEEP OF THE CHOSEN TAK'DINAL", I think the name should be Dak'Dinal, as this is the name printed on the map. Or is the map wrong?

[Remaom]

The text for elves say they generally are the size of a average human male, 2 peds. Well the wording doesn't exactly say average, but it implies it. Where as the text for humans say their max height is 2 peds. So there is a discrepancy there.

Furthermore, 6 foot 6 inches(or 2 peds) is pretty tall, even for a male of modern times. Maybe the average for professional basketball players, but not for humans in general. I suppose you could say santharia humans are just taller then real humans.

[Sicillia Lock]

In the first paragraph of the miscellaneous entry called Aramyrian Disease, the word "colour", has been spelt "color" in the American style. The sentence is -

"The victim begins to lose color pigment from his or her eyes and skin."

I am not sure if this matters, but I believe Santharia uses proper English grammar so just though I would point it out.

EDIT: I also just realised this same mistake has been made throughout the entry.

[Deklitch Hardin]

We also spell it colour here in Australia. This site uses the England/British version of the spelling, not the US version. If it was a site based in the US, we'd all have to conform to those spellings, but it isn't. Whether we like it or not, it has been decided that we are following British spellings of such words. I actually didn't come here to argue spelling variations of words ... but rather to bring up a typo I saw in the Kyranian men entry

In the weapons section of that entry, it says the following This unique weapon was crafted by the middle Thromgolin brother, Sengren, in ca. 9550 b.S. and obviously was named after him but in the history section, it says The Scions of Thromgolin II: Senren "Ren" Thromgolin ... that Senren should be Sengren, I am certain, as the evidence suggests they are both referring to the same person.

[Sivartius]

Of course spelling standardization didn't come into being until relatively recently. I can't remember if it was Webster, or Samuel Johnson, or someone else, but it was around that time period.

[Deklitch Hardin]

As far as I know, when using a possessive s, you are also suppose to use a comma. For example "John's skateboard".

Yes, you do use apostrophes when using a possessive s  ... apart from when you use the word it as the possessor. So yes, you go bear's food, cat's tail, John's skateboard, but Its food, its tail, his skateboard.

You can believe me on this one ... I teach English amongst other subjects for a living and that is one thing I know for sure. It is just one of the many idiosyncrasies about English that make it so wonderful to teach.

As far as the color, I replaced green and blue with light green and light blue. Please let me know if you still have trouble reading it.

Yes, those colours makes it much easier on the eye, thank you.

[Ta`lia of the Seven Jewels]

I found this in Alysse's entry about the Kragghi

Territory. The Kragghi is a cold-climate plant that grows throughout Northern Sarvonia. It is prevalent in the Oro Hills and the Celeste Lowlands and can be found as far north as the Gulf of Oh’cant’aelwyn. It may also be found in the southern regions of Cyhalloi, and the northernmost islands of Yamalquain, though it is not particularly common there.

I thought we don't know anything about Yamalquain except some rumours of the Storm cloaks guild. So we cannot know anything about this plant growing there either, especially not, where exactly and that it is not very common. As several others were not allowed to place plants/animals (Rayne e.g.) there, I think we should stick to avoid mentioning Yamalquain for now.

[Ta`lia of the Seven Jewels]

I looked just through the Drinks of Santharia entry - and there are many missing  !

It would be a quick improvement, to add a link to the vine entry here

[Valan Nonesuch]

Not quite a typo, when in the herbarium using Firefox, if one opens the "Edible Plants" submenu the formatting on the Misc/Other "menu" jumps into what looks like allcaps. Had a few other people check to make sure. It seems to be slightly iffy as to what exactly sets it off. It looks to be exclusive to firefox, but consistent between desktop, laptop and operating systems.

[Ta`lia of the Seven Jewels]

Is that an error? The time. Very first entry in the big history table.


  THE ERA OF SILENCE
(UNKNOWN - 15.000 B.S.)

ca. 120000 b.S.
to 10000 b.S.
   
The Ancestors of the Darklings leave the Birni Kingdom
The huge Brownie settlement in the Paeleon Forest breaks into fighting and squabbling. A large group decides to leave forever and try their luck elsewhere.
Allocations: Darkling Brownies

First, the link to the Darkling Brownies does not work. (allocations)

Then, isn't the timespan a bit huge?  120 000 to 10 000 b.S.

It should probably be 12 000 to 10 000 b.S. , but then it has to go under the Era of Harmony, would make more sense.

And then I would put the two timespans, the ERA OF SILENCE (- 15.000 b.S.) and  the ERA OF FIRST MIGRATION (15.000 b.S. - 14.000 b.S.) in the main history table, for it belongs to the whole of Caelereth and an important part for the whole understanding of the migrations.


--> Darkling entry as well.

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There might be another part which should be cleared up, or at least a sentence added, I will point Coren to it.

ca. 15000 b.S.
to 5800 b.S.    The Great Exodus (aka The Exodus of the Seven Tribes)
The Aestera, the Lillivear, the Evalaris, the Viaquis, the Arath, the Qualaris and the Sharosar flee in desperation from the Chosen, Menemronn the Purple and wander aimlessly around Nybelmar.
Allocations: Aestera Men; Arath Men; Evaquis Men (Evalaris); Krean Men; Lillivear Men; Nybelmar, West; Qualaris Men; Sharosar Men
      
10 000 years of aimless wanderings??

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