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« Reply #30 on: 15 June 2004, 21:09:00 »

:x   (sighs deeply)  Whew, finally got in here!  It's been a horrendously busy day at the beginning of what's going to be a horrendously busy week, just after finishing a horrendously busy week...  :speechless     Did I mention that we just bought our first house, are planning to be working in Korea for a month as of next month, and start a new job in September? :explode  

Anyhow, enough whining from me.  We hope to be going camping sometime this week, so that should be a blissful three days of rest...  For now I'll try and get a bit of this edited before midnight, ok?


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The Legend of Kormor Toltrumerim

Overview
Before the War of the Chosen, there was a great mine under the Zharkanions called Kormor Toltrumerim.  When Menemronn crushed the Toltrumerim in their caves, however, the clan was wiped out along with their mines.
But among the Nybelmargerim ( ) legend also says that the greatest of all Toltrumerim mines still remains unharmed and unpopulated under the mountains and when it is one day rediscovered the dwarves will once again be great powers in Nybelmar. In AleronsZeRotrumEol, or the Runes of the Eastern Mountain, the history of the Deep Dwarves is told.


Pre-history
Since the beginning of time the Deep Dwarves had lived beneath Nybelmar deep under the Zharkanions. Other dwarves came to Nybelmar in the Age of Silence. By then they were travelling south in great numbers, fleeing from a evil in the north. Four brothers led them on their travels. Their names were Keriloin, Mortiloin, Heriloin and Gakeloin, all great leaders and warriors.

“Fleeing great enemies
Southward they walked
Many dwarves”

Verse One

When reaching the northern parts of the Zharkanions they met the Deep Dwarves. This was when the trouble started. After a dispute a fight broke out among the brothers about what to do next. Keriloin and Heriloin wanted to create a new great kingdom high up in the mountains where no one could touch them, while Mortiloin and Gakeloin wanted to join the dwarves deep in the mountain. In the end the whole group of dwarves were split up by the dispute. They began fighting, dwarf against dwarf, and the conflict didn’t end until two of the brothers died fighting each other.

“Welcomed with open arms
Brother of the past
Not every one agreed”
Verse Two

“Fighting broke out
Angry dwarves fell dead
Children were scared”
Verse Three

Mortiloin, the older of the two remaining, and Keriloin, the younger, decided to split up their clan and search for fortune along separate ways. As Mortiloin and his friends were welcomed with open arms by the Deep Dwarves, Keriloin took the others and started walking southwest. They went up into the ranges until they found three high mountains.

“Four brothers became two
Keriloin walked on the mountain
Mortiloil walked under the mountain”
Verse Four

The dwarves that lived under the mountains called themselves Toltrumerim, or Under-Rock Dwarves, but in the legends of the other races they became known as the Deep Dwarves. They had found that the Zharkanoins were rich in gold and silver and the stone was easy to cut. In the deepest excavations they also found mithril, and the mine began to flourish. Hall by hall and tunnel by tunnel the system was extended, with much help from the newcomers. More dwarves came from the north and the numbers of both groups grew.

Mortiloin was appointed Garkavon of the Deep Dwarves. He was considered a brave and smart leader by both the Toltrumerim and the newcomers. When the Gornegron died, Mortiloin was chosen to be the next Gornegron.

Keriloin and his clan, who became known as Kiingerim, the High Dwarves, created the great dwarven kingdom of which he had dreamt in a valley he called Heriloin Vale after his dead brother. There, they found many gems and precious stones.

“Keriloin liked the stone so black
Motliloin liked the gems glittering
The group of dwarves were split up”


Verse Five

Shouldn't this be "Motliloin liked the stone so black / Keriloin liked the gems glittering..."?  You've just said M dug deeply and K found many precious stones... :veryconfused  

Under the roots of the mountain the Deep Dwarves became richer by the day and started to build colonies in both north and south. Just before his death Mortiloin named the mine Kormor Toltrumerim, The Great Mine of the Deep Dwarves. The mine was the centre of the cave system.

A generation after his death the tribe had a town in the northeast called Tyr Bruk, and a mine in the south called Mor MithtenThuuth. ( This would abbreviate over time into a single-word name, probably "Mor Mithuth" or "MorMithuuth") The colonies were connected with giant tunnels that stretched underground stral after stral. On the way taverns and inns were built so that one could travel in relative comfort. Long light shafts and thousands of torches set into recesses lit up the tunnel just brightly enough for dwarven eyes.

At Tyr Bruk a deep crevasse ringing the first hall worked as protection; the rest of the town could only be reached by the single bridge from which the town took its name. The town was used as a trading place with other races and it was the only known place where one could meet Deep Dwarves. The actual trading, however, was conducted on the outside of the mountain. :veryconfused   (Huh?  Either the town is a trading place or it's not.  I'd delete this last sentence IMHO...) :b  

“Tunnels went on forever
Air, food and water fresh
All the way from mine to town”
Verse Seven


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The Gornegron of Kormor Toltrumerim was more powerful than most Gornegrons. He ruled the underground realm like a king and took little advice from his Gorkavons. Despite this the Gornegrons were always liked by the Toltrumerim and no revolt ever took place.
The Gorkavons in their turn ruled the colonies like little kings. Because of the long distances the colonies were hard to monitor for the Gornegron. Senders were used to communicate with the other mines.

“On a throne he sat
Ruled with wisdom
A mighty dwarf the Gorgnegron was”
Vers 8

Towns and mines of the Toltrumerim before the War of the Choosen:

Kormor Toltrumerim (Great Mine of the Deep Dwarves).
This was said to be the greatest mining town in the whole world. Above the huge mines and forges gigantic halls were carved out of the living rock. The Hall of Motilolin are described in the AleronsZeRotrumEol like this:

“Stack 100 Toltrumerim
One on the others shoulder
They still would not reach the roof”
Verse Fifteen

The rest of Kormor Toltrumerim was just as impressive. The mine was bigger than any other mine and the tunnels went deeper and longer than any other tunnels. The stone carvings were not as impressive as the ones in the Kiingerim cities, but no human or elf could ever dream of making such craftsmanship.

Mor MithtenThuuth (Mine of Iron-Fire)
The Mor MithtenThuuth was a mine rich with iron ore and connected with the grandest forges in the realm. From Mor MithtenThuuth ore and iron bars and even fine metal art came all day long. The mine was only occupied by the miners and no military were present as there was only one way out and that was through the tunnels to Kormor Toltrumerim.

“All day Havach work
Taking iron and ore from mine
To the Kormor Toltrumerim”
Verse Seventeen

Tyr Bruk (Town of the Bridge)
This town was the contact to outer world for the Deep Dwarves and the only known settlement for other races. For all they saw, the Deep Dwarves were just a few dwarves living in the northern parts of the Zharkanions. They could easily have guessed that it was a bit more with all the merchandise coming out of the mountain. The dwarves had a market set up about 70 strals southwest of were Fullwannooth now lies. That is also close to RotrumEol were the runes were carved in. The opening to the town however was always kept as a secret. To met the Toltrumerim the trader stopped at a certain place and waited until someone from the town came out to meet him. It was assumed that the dwarves had scouts that monitored the place day and night.
There was a great bridge inside the mountains and it was guarded day and night. At Tyr Bruk the military presence was great as this was the main way in and out of the realm.

“In Tyr Bruk the bridge was long
Other races could not enter
Traders met outside”
Verse Thirteen


Mor Dishuniolin (Incomplete Mine)
This mine was named after the War of the Chosen. Then last part of the text, the tenth verse, is not written by the same person who wrote the first nine. The runes are badly carved and only the magic protecting the whole stone has kept them in good condition. The tenth verse speaks of a newly built mine that were very rich with gems and gold, but that it was destroyed before it was finished. The one who wrote the last verse could very well be from that mine.
The mine are said to have been located in the northwest part of the mountains.

“A new beginning
Richer than all other mines
Destroyed by the dark, evil power”
Verse Nineteen

Towns of the Kiingerim before the War of the Chosen:
As told by the old tales of the Kiingerim

The old Kiingerim tales and myths tell us about an underground kingdom that was friends of the tribe. They speak of great tunnels and ramps that lead up to the cities. Therefore there is reason to believe that the two tribes traded with each other.

Kerrintyr - (Highest Town)
This was the capitol of the Kiingerim. Located high up in the mountains, south of Kormor Toltrumerim the city covered three mountaintops and the vallley between them. All three moutains were filled with halls and tunnels and in the three mountaintops rooms for the sharp-eyed scout were cut out.
The three mountains were called Granoli, Ovikoli and Bonasolin after their first Garkavons and Garkavons were in command of each one from the creation until the end.
They were, as well as the other colonies, run like provinces.
The Gornegron sat on his throne in RotrumOvikoli - Mount Ovikoli - and oversaw the whole realm. He had more direct power over the realm than the Gornegron of the Deep Dwarves.
The stone of Mount Ovikoli were dark grey and the tunnels would be very dark if not light shafts were built.


Kiindenityr – (High-Holy-Town)The northern city of the Kiingerim was also the seat of the Denirim. The Kiingerim had only one Denirim for all of its dwarves, and he or she, had sub-priests called Denierons. There were about twenty-five of them, ten for the big towns and five for Mor/Tyr Faerath.

The stone of Denirotrum – Holy Mountain – were light grey, sometimes almost white. The lighting of the city was therefore not needed in the same degree as in Kerrintyr.

Mor/Tyr Faerath – (In Thergerim; Mine/Town of Hiding and in Santerran; Tower of Iron)
The smallest settlement of the Kiingerim and the last to be built. That was lucky for them it seems as they were the only town to be overseen by the hordes of the Burning Mountains. If the city had a connection to Kormor Toltrumerim is debated. The Traders Council is not saying anything about it. The most common guess is that there is a connection to the tunnels but not to the mine. The tunnels would serve as an escape if the city were taken by force. If a connection to the mine would exist the Council would be foolish not to use it anymore.

Edited by: Bard Judith at: 6/15/04 5:10
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« Reply #31 on: 18 June 2004, 04:53:00 »

Thank you so much for the comments.

Right now I'm starting a new job as a "Order-planner" or something like that. As you know, I don't know my english.

Before I start editing I just want to know why you change the verses to "fiftteen" and "thirteen" etc???:veryconfused

I have said that it will be 10 verses originally and one written after Menemronn.

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« Reply #32 on: 19 June 2004, 15:16:00 »

Ah, yes, sorry, should've explained that for you! :hammer

My reasoning was that it's a bit too 'neat' to have one verse for each part of the entry exactly corresponding.  When you are quoting a text to prove a point or illustrate an entry, whether it  be a sonnet by John Donne, a proverb by Solomon, or a philosophical treatise by Artimidor Federkiel, you rarely quote in entirety, but select sections.

So therefore, when you make the verses numbered with a few gaps, or even out of 'order', you strengthen the illusion of reality - as if you've only quoted the parts you need. Of course, if you have a reason for wanting specifically TEN verses only, feel free to disregard that part of the edit!  

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« Reply #33 on: 20 June 2004, 06:27:00 »

I have no strong reason to have ten verses, it's just that I this is the only known source of information written down about the Toltrumerim and if there is so little information you want to use it all.
The entry is based only on the runes so I cant really be picky about what verses to write about.  

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« Reply #34 on: 13 July 2004, 18:15:00 »

Victhorin?  Yo, Victhorin?

(looks around the dark cavern for any signs of life)

Have all those order plans overwhelmed you?  Next time take your pickax and lantern in with you, ok? :hammer

If you do manage to dig yourself out, try and have a final look over this entry - it's too nice to languish and should get up soon if possible!    

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« Reply #35 on: 14 July 2004, 01:57:00 »

Yeah, I'd like to see this one up as well:)  


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« Reply #36 on: 14 July 2004, 12:21:00 »

* comes up from the cavern, all tanned and tiered *

You'll never guess where this tunnels leads! Rome!

Been there, done that. Now to this entry.

I've done the updates suggested in your post. I haven't changed the numbers of the verses because of above mentioned reasons. You ended your suggestions in the middle of the text and I'm waiting for the rest.

* looks at the bard *

Am I missing something here?

It can't be that you have no comments after:

________________ok, stopping here for the night! Hope that helps, will try to finish later..._______________________

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« Reply #37 on: 14 July 2004, 17:18:00 »

lol, you returned safely :lol  were the italians angry? I guess not :)  

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« Reply #38 on: 14 July 2004, 20:54:00 »


The Gornegron of Kormor Toltrumerim was more powerful than most Gornegrons of his era. He ruled the underground realm like a human king and took little advice from his Gorkavons. Despite this, the Gornegrons were usually well-liked by the Toltrumerim and no revolt ever took place.

The Gorkavons in their turn ruled the colonies like little kings, or human dukes. Because of the long distances involved, the colonies were hard to monitor for the Gornegron.  Senders were used to communicate with the other mines, but the local Gorkavon's desires were generally in effect for each colony.

On a throne he sat
Ruled with wisdom
A mighty dwarf the Gorgnegron was?br> Vers 8

Towns and mines of the Toltrumerim before the War of the Chosen:

Kormor Toltrumerim (Great Mine of the Deep Dwarves).
This was said to be the greatest mining town in the whole of Caelereth.  Above the huge mines and forges, gigantic halls were carved out of the living rock. The Hall of Motilolin , one of these stunning artificial caverns, is described in the AleronsZeRotrumEol like this:

Stack one hundred Toltrumerim
One on the shoulders of the next
They still would not reach the roof?br> Verse Fifteen

The rest of Kormor Toltrumerim was just as impressive. The extent of the mine was unmatched, and the tunnels went deeper and longer than any other tunnels had gone before. The stone carvings were not as impressive as the ones in the Kiingerim cities, but no human or elf could ever dream of matching such craftsmanship.

Mor MithtenThuuth (Mine of Iron-Fire)
The Mor MithtenThuuth was a mine rich with iron ore, and possessed the grandest forges in the realm. From Mor MithtenThuuth ore and iron bars and even fine metal art came all day long. The mine was only occupied by the miners and no military were present as there was only one way out - through the tunnels to Kormor Toltrumerim.

All day the Havach work
Taking iron and ore from mine
To the Kormor Toltrumerim.
Verse Seventeen

Tyr Bruk (Town of the Bridge)
This town was the contact to the outer world for the Deep Dwarves and the only settlement known to other races.  For all that humans knew,  the Deep Dwarves were just a few dwarves living in the northern parts of the Zharkanions. One would think that they might have estimated more accurately, with all the merchandise coming out of the mountain.

The dwarves had a market set up about 70 strals southwest of where Fullwannooth now lies. That is also close to RotrumEol, the place of runes.  The opening to the town, however, was always kept as a secret. To meet  with Toltrumerim the trader stopped at a certain place and waited until someone from the town came out to meet him. Humans assumed, correctly,  that the dwarves had scouts who monitored the place day and night.
There was a great bridge inside the mountains and it was guarded day and night. At Tyr Bruk the military presence was at its greatest strength, as this was the main way in and out of the realm.

“In Tyr Bruk the bridge was long
Other races could not enter
Traders met outside?br> Verse Thirteen


Mor Dishuniolin (Incomplete Mine)
This mine was named after the War of the Chosen. The final verse, given below, does not seem to have been written by the same person who wrote the first nine. The runes are badly carved and only the magic protecting the whole stone has kept them in good condition. The tenth verse speaks of a newly-built mine that were very rich with gems and gold, but also claims that it was destroyed before it was finished. The dwarf who carved the last verse could very well have been from that mine.The mine is said to have been located in the northwest part of the mountains.

“A new beginning
Richer than all other mines
Destroyed by the dark, evil power?br> Verse Nineteen

Towns of the Kiingerim before the War of the Chosen:
As told by the old tales of the Kiingerim

The old Kiingerim tales and myths tell us about an underground kingdom that was a friend of the tribe. They speak of great tunnels and ramps that lead up to the cities. Therefore there is reason to believe that the two tribes traded with each other.

Kerrintyr - (Highest Town)
This was the capitol of the Kiingerim. Located high up in the mountains, south of Kormor Toltrumerim, the city covered three mountaintops and the vallley between them. All three moutains were filled with halls and tunnels and in the three mountaintops rooms for the sharp-eyed scouts were cut out.

The three mountains were called Granoli, Ovikoli and Bonasolin after their first Garkavons, and Garkavons were in command of each one from the creation until the end.

They were, as well as the other colonies, run like provinces.
The Gornegron sat on his throne in RotrumOvikoli - Mount Ovikoli - and oversaw the whole realm. He had more direct power over the realm than the Gornegron of the Deep Dwarves.
The stone of Mount Ovikoli were dark grey and the tunnels would have been very dark if not for the light shafts that were set through their roofs.

Kiindenityr ?(High-Holy-Town)The northern city of the Kiingerim was also the seat of the Denirim. The Kiingerim had only one Denirim for all of its dwarves, and he or she { } had subpriests called Denierons. There were about twenty-five of them, ten for the big towns and five for Mor/Tyr Faerath.

The stone of Denirotrum ?Holy Mountain ?were light grey, sometimes almost white. The lighting of the city was therefore not needed in the same degree as in Kerrintyr.

Mor/Tyr Faerath ?(In Thergerim; Mine/Town of Hiding and in Santerran; Tower of Iron)
This was the smallest settlement of the Kiingerim and the last to be built. That was lucky for them, as it seems as they were the only town to be overseen by the hordes of the Burning Mountains. Whether the city had a connection to Kormor Toltrumerim is debatable - the Traders Council is not saying anything about it. The most common guess is that there was a connection to the tunnels but not to the mine. The tunnels would serve as an escape if the city were taken by force. If a connection to the mine currently existed,  the Council would be foolish not to use it anymore.


:hammer  Thanks for the reminder to finish this, Vic! :hammer

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« Reply #39 on: 15 July 2004, 00:13:00 »

Judith. Thanks for the corrections. Hope to finish this tonight.

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« Reply #40 on: 15 July 2004, 09:14:00 »

hehe, that's what I heard too (they put Del Pierro in the same pot too) ;)  

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« Reply #41 on: 15 July 2004, 10:14:00 »

Ok. Updates done now. Thank you all.:)  

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