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« on: 08 January 2002, 16:18:00 »

teaser“The Or’ia” : recount of the fabled origin and travels of the pre-tribal members of the Sor’inyt. Written in both the original Sor’inyt format and Tharian translation.

As always comments and suggestions are welcome. :)        


       Luc Or’ia

       Fagi Pa: Mag’le da luc E’lumi

Faraa mo luc coreth bur da luc polentia dudd/
Na’roo a kontrai gorm te carn lopei/
Manta te gien da’gien te manti/
Na’roo a kontrai.

Parki luc morn’u dutuk cor a nonti R’ota/
R’ota a martui poto mo dap’tu lope.
Se luc bur polentia dudd/
Du lorta kor’tek da poto/

Lopei a nonti du lop kap’ti kor’tek gor’ku/
A caphi ranou kor’tek da poto/
Te a mauti pork da poto/
Doa a martui.

R’ota luc yatik a marti’ki prem se luc bur polentia/
Lope wanta cord te poto a gortui/
Lope botuk ranou a marti skia/
R’ota lok a carr’ni.

A horii ke dotuk horisen da mor’na doa a horii/
A vateni luc tot’k te luc gien pare/
Sa pa doa a randeri lopei ta’odi/
A nonti wanp miu.

Da’gen te du’gen e geft n’a kontroi/
Ref doa a ta’odi swille te salle/
A har’iti doa a randeri lopei ta’odi/
Ta R’ota luc finga da.

Miu du’gen te du’gen norku mo rande a corri/
T luc sup loa’ut kam/
Ton doa a nat’uii na’roo darb/
Loa’ita da forin rota.

R’ota a carr’ni lok botuk botka na’roo/
Up lopei te lop yatik n’a aceti no/
Luc matket hori’loa ast/
Lac a car’dati na’roo ton.

Eu rien mor’nu ard te rein mor’na ard na’roo a euai/
Darb kawe loa’ita seyif da fortuni dio/
Boff lakel da cenept te phi/
A boffi lope te pet.

Ke luc g’oden d’mor da luce eu rein pa d’mor/
Flu’rin dotuk a marti elun skia elun/
Doa a alderi du botuk mor’e te dio/
Ref luc e’lumi a ta kor’eic.

Hori’loa a ronedi nat’oo te jiha a uinumi/
Dotuk loat’ut a corpeai kawe loa’ita/
Te a mav’har’iti luc a ploui lopeia/
Da a doul’eui ska’ji.

Sor te lopa a hold’ernei t luc loa’ut/
A doul’eui res’it sa luc E’lumi a sonki/
Lop dorin luc dotuk ponte/
Mo’t luc bur.

Ref ken mor’nu luc loa’ut neg’luen a ston’rai/
Ken loat’ut a euai luc dudd/
Eu a ktandi ke luc bre’lig ko’ya/
Da luc Inyt.


TRANSLATION

NOTE: Due to translation, the original rhythm is lost- resulting in a “choppy” feel in the words. The Tharian language lacks parallel words and phrases to Sor’inytian. Also the Tharian version is edited for coherency of verse.

      The Or’ia

      Episode One: Storm of the Gods

“Far- in the cold clutches of the mountains north/
We tended man’s clothes and meals/
Wives and daughters mothers and lovers/
We served and tended.”

“Until the dark day when R’ota came/
Over the cold mountains north/
With silver banners of death/
R’ota marched death in his wake.”

“He came with men gleaming in silver armor/
Carrying silver swords of death/
And waving pikes of black/
They came marching.”

“R’ota led the army first over the mountains north/
His eyes gleaming fire and death/
His black sword raised high/
R’ota roared fury.”

“Mounted on dark steeds of night they rode/
Trampling bush and child alike/
As one they rose high/
Towards our homes.”

“A fight our husbands and fathers would not make/
For they were farmers and herders/
Killed they feared they be/
At the hands of R’ota.”

“Our fathers and husbands fled in terror south/
To the shores of the great water/
Where they pushed us aboard/
Vessels of rotten wood.”

“R’ota roared black fury pursuit behind us/
But he and his army could not catch/
The swift waves of blue/
That bore us away.”

“Twenty hard days and twenty hard nights we swam/
Aboard weak flimsy ships of ill-luck/
Sickness bleak of mind and body/
Affected man and woman.”

“On the gold dawn of the twenty-first morning/
Clouds dark rose above high above/
They boiled with black hate and ill/
For the Gods were at war.”

“Waves thundered angrily and lighting crashed/
Dark waters overturned weak vessels/
And drowned the working crews/
Of crying souls.”

“Sisters and brothers were lost to the sea/
Crying helplessly as the gods took/
Them below the dark surface/
Into the cold.”

“For seven days the violent waters resisted/
Seven ships set sail from the north/
Two landed on the rocky beaches/
Of the Sands.”

     Episode Two: Exile in a Lost Land

“Bright white light welcomed our arrival/
To the lost land of infinite sands/
With forlorn downcast spirits/
We climbed ashore.”

“Ten men and twenty women trudged wearily/
Away from the now timid waters blue/
Towards the golden horizon/
Children in tow.”

“Foiros hot above and long days we traveled far/
Slowly lessening till only ten remained/
To pass the time in great heat/
And watch friends die.”

“The few men fearing for our northern virtues/
Stole arms from wandering clans and fairs/
And taught the arts of steel and bone/
To sisters and mothers.”

“Two great women arose to be skilled at war arts/
Nag’alendri and her fierce mother Motoa/
Together they sparked fire/
Into hearts.”

“Dark haired Motoa was the wife of a strong man/
And she was powerful of soul and courage/
Her eyes shone always brightly/
When challenge rose.”

“Her daughter Nag’alendri was light when she was dark/
Gold-white hair that shone in Foiros’ light/
Blue eyes matched her mother’s/
At opposition.”

“Time wore on and days passed on golden wings/
Till only five women remained alive/
The others left with death/
In peace.”

“Mother and daughter rose above to guide sisters/
Into safe places of rest and comfort/
Where others could not find/
For slumber.”

     Episode Three: Rape of Nag’alendri

“One bright morning a caravan passed their camp/
Carrying trinkets and food for sell of gold/
To’baba the fat led the trade/
For greed of flesh.”

“To’baba was a rank greasy man of wide girth/
And poor manners of breed and talk/
He saw golden Nag’alendri/
And darkly lusted.”

“He reached forward with gilded hands and promises/
Asking only for a night with Motoa’s daughter/
A night with the golden child/
Of Motoa’s womb.”

“He offered lush sweet fruit and spiced wine/
With golden bread and purple grapes/
He promised clean cool water/
All for a night.”

“Motoa and the three sisters refused his price/
Nag’alendri was too dear to hearts/
To be sold into consort/
To un-trusted men.”

“To’baba would not hear it and increased his price/
Yellow cheese and red jelly over bread/
Pushed his desire nearer/
To edge.”

“Still the Sisters rejected the proposal/
Standing determined and tall/
Keeping to their word/
They endured.”

“Tobaba then bowed his oily head and left/
The sisters to their poor beds/
As he went south to plot/
The horror.”

“A voice called to Nag’alendri in the night/
Proclaiming to be a God of the earth/
She rose from her warm bed/
Into the night.”

“The silky voice whispered softly near her ear/
A cold hand covered her mouth and eyes/
Strong arms held her tight/
To the ground.”

“Motoa heard and followed her daughter into the dark/
Where she met her end at Tobaba’s blade/
And fell crying to the dust in blood/
Child’s name.”

“She was ravaged there just outside the cave/
Nag’alendri cried to the gods for comfort/
She cried for vengeance/
She weeped.”

“The sorrowful calls rang high in the starry dark/
Surely the gods must hear! Thought she/
Answered her call did none/
None but one.”

“Looking down at the earth so dark, Foiros saw/
The disgrace of Nag’alendri’s virtue/
At the hands of Tobaba/
The fool.”

“Anger raged in the sky as great Foiros watched/
Raging- he parted the night and threw/
A gleaming single shaft/
Of light.”

“Illuminated in his disgrace Tobaba cried out/
The sisters seeing him well and clear/
Made toward him to stop/
His crime.”

     Episode Four: Sisters of the Sands

“When he was close to death Nag’alendri rose/
She took her mother’s sword and stood/
High above him with pride/
Rage in her eyes.”

“I curse you to wander these lands in torment”/
she said with bitterness loud in voice/
“You will grieve the day/
Hands touched Sor’inyt.”

“With one smooth slice she smote off his head/
And thus avenged her murdered mother/
And rose to her position/
As leader.”

“Nag’alendri in the lead, the sisters left the caves/
And set for the lands of the sand plains/
Leaving behind them/
The memories.”

“They traveled many days and many nights over land/
Searching for a place to call their own/
To make a home for their bodies/
And hearts.”

“Finally as Nag’alendri grew heavy with child/
Their bright destined land rose into sight/
Here they stopped their travels/
And declared home.”

“Nag’alendri birthed and named her daughter/
Child harshly begotten of violence/
Afoiris for light of life/
Her daughter.”

“This is our home” Nag’alendri spoke truly/
of hearths that would never be cold/
Sisters we will be with children/
To lead.”

“The Sisters then pledged to stay alone from men/
Never to invite them into their home/
Always to be together/
Sisters of the Sands/
The Sor’inyt.”


     Clarification of The Or’ia

Episode One: Storm of the Gods

The founding women of the Sor’inyt tribe once lived in the Northern Continent of Sarvonia. This is partially evident when one considers the journey that is told in the first and second Episodes of The Or’ia [origin]. The key factors of this evidence is that they were forced to flee   south and they sailed over “the great water” to reach a new hot land of sands. Due to their present local and the reference to “rocky shores” it is assumed that they landed on Aeruillin near present-day Shan’Furionnis and the Xantian Mountains. Because of this landing point, Sarvonia is seemingly the only logical “homeland” for the tribe. The Santharian/Sarvonian origin is also moderately confirmed when one considers in their language, the tribe is sometimes known to refer to Santharia as “Cold Hearth.”

Although R’ota is their main reason for fleeing, there is no Santharian historical mention of a warlord or even a conquering ambitious knight by that name. But, as one researcher pointed out, “R’ota” is similar to the word for “rotten”, “rota”. It is possible that the name of the warlord was not R’ota, but instead the name was given perhaps because they did not know they conquering lord’s name and attached a negative adjective to his persona.

Being forced to flee south with their husbands and fathers, the founding members are made to board ships at the coastline. Because of the deficiency of information regarding their flight and a lack of mention of landmarks, we do not know specifically which area of Sarvonia the tribe originated from. It is assumed that the women traveled from middle Sarvonia down to the southeast, where they met the coast and the boats- but it is equally probable that they came from farther north.

Episode Two: Exile in a Lost Land

As was said before, it is assumed that the Sor’inyt landed on Aeruillin just west of present day Shan’Furionnis near the northernmost extension of the Xantian Mountains. From there, it is assumed, due to the references of a “hidden place of rest” (a “rocky bed in cave” in latter versions) and their present location, that the survivors of the storm traveled southeast into the heart of the mountains and heading for the flatland east of the mountain range. As they traveled, several people died from the heat, dehydration, exhaustion, and/or malnourishment. The remaining men, though there were few, fearing the women would be captured or worse by the roaming bands of traders and bandits took it upon themselves to teach the women basic self-defense.

After the group of survivors dwindled down to a mere five women, the mother-daughter team of Motoa and Nag’alendri assumed leadership. They managed to keep the remaining women alive by well hidden sleeping areas and their skill of weapons.

Episode Three: The Rape of Nag’alendri

Despite the adamancy of the Sor’inyt, it is not certainly known if the character To’baba was a real man. As with R’ota, To’baba reminds one of  “to’ba” (“attack”). As with any oral tradition, it is hard to extract the real/undeniable truths from those that have evolved into mere symbols of character. According to the legend, To’baba was a traveling salesman who developed a lust for the golden haired Nag’alendri. It was his lust that spawned both the abhorrence of male contact within the tribe and the continuation of the tribe - by planting child within Nag’alendri.

Here is where the reason for the Sor’inyt’s devotion to Foiros blooms. Since the founding members were originally from the old world, they had previously worshipped the divine 13. According to the legend, the god of the sun took pity on the girl. After, the women felt they were forever indebted to the god for his help.

Episode Four: Sisters of the Sands

Because of their newfound repulsion for the mountains, they strove for the plains and deserts where they were sure no other people would dare live. They called themselves “sisters of the sands” or “sand sisters” (“Sor da luc Inyt” or “Sor’inyt”) so that they would never be associated with the region of rock.

"Popai n'o sonko ligta luc for'is a ment'ik, popai o sonko lighta lac o mart."
Sor'inyt saying - "Ask not why the sun sets, but why it rises."

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« Reply #1 on: 09 January 2002, 14:48:00 »

Quite interesting, Anaea...

Question: Could you add this explanation as well of which you spoke? Guess it can't be wrong to have these details:)

Question 2: Is there an elaborated system for this language you use?

Question 3: There are still men in the tribe as it seems. Is there a myth as well which explains why the woman have expelled the men or something?


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« Reply #2 on: 09 January 2002, 18:57:00 »

Answer #1: Sure I can type up an explanation. It shouldn’t be too hard. I am pressed for time right now- but I’ll get that out soon as I can.

Answer # 2: yes- I do have a system. Spent many hours of social withdraw “inventing” it. While obviously I don’t have every word – I have the basics [fundamental nouns, verb conjugation, and a number system] written in a notebook that is becoming more tattered by the day. :)  

Answer # 3: as to the men – stay tuned for Episode Two. It really explains it all. Translation [for me] is a slow process. But I AM working on Episode II.

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Sor'inyt saying - "Ask not why the sun sets, but why it rises."

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« Reply #3 on: 10 January 2002, 10:21:00 »

*Turns all shades of red*  I suggested that Anaea do this, but all the credit goes to her and her imagination.  I can't wait to see what else she comes up with.

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« Reply #4 on: 10 January 2002, 14:10:00 »

:D  capher you're too sweet to me... :)  

"Popai n'o sonko ligta luc for'is a ment'ik, popai o sonko lighta lac o mart."
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« Reply #5 on: 11 January 2002, 15:59:00 »

A slight correction here, Anaea: Santharia is a united kingdom in the world of Sorren, which united several kingdoms in the year 0 (zero). Santharia stretches over the southern part of the Sarvonian continent, so I assume we should change your references to "Santharia" to "Sarvonia".

Also propose that Drogo (Northern Sarvonia expert) should take a look here and perhaps propose a way this tribe could have taken. In this respect I'd like to propose as well that the Tandala mountains probably haven't existed in ancient times (at the Fall of Fá'áv'cál'1ar) so that the tribes could move south (well, some used ships obviously to reach the Sarvonian south). Propose some sort of mythological reason why the Tandala have arisen.


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« Reply #6 on: 11 January 2002, 17:05:00 »

Hmm… Art I think you are on to a good idea. [am I surprised? :)  ] Originally, that is not at all what I had planned [original home in Northern Savonia], but I like it SO much better then what I had intended. Is there a detailed map of NS (Northern Savonia) that I could take a look at for possible placement of the “home” tribe?  I could only find a general map.

After a semi-closer look at NS, I think the best launching point might be southeastern NS. But I falter on the timing I had originally given them for water travel. Do you think 20 days would be enough time to sail from southeastern Northern Sarvonia to Aeurillin? I am beginning to think I should extend that period… not to mention they where caught in a storm… :frowns:

Also after more contemplation- would it be logical that not everyone fled? There might be remnants of their initial tribe [of course evolved differently…] still lingering in NS.

"Popai n'o sonko ligta luc for'is a ment'ik, popai o sonko lighta lac o mart."
Sor'inyt saying - "Ask not why the sun sets, but why it rises."

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« Reply #7 on: 11 January 2002, 18:45:00 »

When the tribe's history is moving to the North the most likely event beside the Fall of Fav'.... that might cause this desperate action might be the Fall of the Mynian and the hunting by the Orcs along the Skeleton coast.

A later opportunity would be the seperation of Losh-Oc and Ashz-Oc. When the Losh-Oc move south they wouldn't wait to destroy a "weak" human tribe in their way...

Just some suggestions. In the end they have to be checked back with Drogo, but I'd see some opportunities there.

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« Reply #8 on: 11 January 2002, 19:58:00 »

Wow!  That was incredible, I must say I love the way it was written.  It reminds me of thing's I've wanted to do, but have never come close to getting right.  Great Job.  As far as the whole history thing, I was just talking to Koldar  and I think that the best time for this would be during the year of darkness that engulfed the world.  The visions of fire would be ingrained further by the fact that there was only darkness at this time.  Also like Koldar said, there was a large butchering of people along the skeleton coast.  This tribe could be the female survivors, as many of the men of the Mynians were killed in the siege of Vermoth.  The Tandala's would be up by then, my guess is they weren't there until the War of the Chosen anyway.  I could see there being a mythology in the North about you guys.  Hmmmm  where exactly did they end up again?  Hope some of this helps, if you have any questions feel free to ask, I love to help ;)  

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« Reply #9 on: 12 January 2002, 14:15:00 »

Hmmm... Now that I think of it, we could perhaps even tie the Sor'inyt together with the Sophronians from Capher (well, that's just a proposal), because the Sophronians were always a female ruled tribe. Don't know if this is workable, but members of this tribe could have moved more to the south? Read more details on the Sophronians here.

Maps: Detailed maps all exist of Northern Sarvonia. The latest version of the overview can be viewed here and the detailed maps can be accessed through clicking here. Scroll down to the "Complete Map Index" and there you'll find all detailed Sarvonian maps. This page is pretty old and will be changed soon.

20 days: Seems a bit small. Aeruillin BTW will move much more to the south. How about 2 or 3 months?


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« Reply #10 on: 13 January 2002, 01:55:00 »

:lol  Art- right after I posted that I took a closer look at the maps section. Only to realize what a big fool I must have sounded like! :)  but being too lazy to fix the post- I laughed when I read your helpful… well, help. :D

sorry for the tardiness of this post. :  I mulled over the ideas. Then checked out the maps [btw: it took me several embarrassing minutes to find exactly WHERE the skeleton coast was located… :o .] then did some more homework. Analyzed my tribe… basically I attempted [note: I used attempted] to look at every possible angle.

Here we go: :)

Not to offer any offense to Capher [he knows I adore him! :) ] - but I don’t think I want to associate the Sor’inyt with the Sophronians. I would have to change A LOT of background information. [well if not on the site- in my mind… that could be hard..] – not to mention I specifically TRIED to make them not like Capher’s group. But- hey! Thanks for the suggestion anyway! At least I know you’re actually paying attention! ;)  ;)  ;)  j/k

The more I think about it, the more I like the idea of the tribe initially being located in NS. Who’s idea was that? Oh yeah :)  Art’s. :lol  I should have remembered. :grin: but I’m afraid I will have to study the maps/history/etc a little more closely before deciding more definitely where and when they were from.

Will fix the time. How about 2 ½ months? [yeah yeah- I fell for a compromise … :) ]

Unfortunately my latin studies have bushwhacked my time. I’m afraid the translation will take longer then originally planned. Other translations call….

till then...

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« Reply #11 on: 13 January 2002, 02:59:00 »

"Aeruillin BTW will move much more to the south"

Any idea how much more?


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« Reply #12 on: 13 January 2002, 05:50:00 »

Greybark and I just computed the thing a bit. According to our history resources Kolumbus needed approx. 70 days to discover America (Europe to America). I intend a distance which is approx. half of this one, so I'd propose to go for 30-35 days sea travel. This seems the most accurate and probable - does that sound ok?


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« Reply #13 on: 13 January 2002, 11:08:00 »

that is greast as always Art. hmm... so i guess i wasn't that far off to begin with... thanks for clearing that up! :)

wait... greybark- i'm confused... :(  

"Popai n'o sonko ligta luc for'is a ment'ik, popai o sonko lighta lac o mart."
Sor'inyt saying - "Ask not why the sun sets, but why it rises."

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« Reply #14 on: 13 January 2002, 11:24:00 »

I posted my question, then talked with Art on ICQ. He had the date for Columbus leaving Europe, and I had the date for his arrival in America. So we subtracted the dates and ended up with about 70 days. He then posted an answer to the post.

Is that what you were confused about?


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14 September 2017, 09:40:04
Hello all! It's been a minute since I poked my nose in here. Can't remember if I ever did anything useful.
09 May 2017, 14:17:18
Ah, too bad that internet is so restricted in China, Ferra. Can't be much fun surfing the web that way if Big Brother's watching you... Hope you enjoy your stay nevertheless!
03 May 2017, 17:41:19
Hi, dear Arti and other developers!

This year I am in China and cannot use any Google services including YouTube. For this reason I stopped uploading new Nepris videos. I can also not read any comments there.

It just crossed my mind that this information might be useful to you.

Cheers

F
26 March 2017, 12:48:56
Hello to anyone that might read this. :)
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