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« on: 04 January 2006, 00:56:00 »

Greetings,

It seems I have a bad habit for asking questions, but still, I found a new one to ask. Just recently, I proposed that farseers within Ximax be used for stargazing. Now I wondered, to what extent are Terran magical/mystical techniques such as numerology, astrology, divination and more of those things present in Caelereth.

I just wanted to ask, because as far as astrology is concerned, I couldn't really find anything but perhaps the cosmological/religious alignment of the stars and constellations. But that's hardly enough to compose a good astrological system, methinks.

I'd like to hear your opinions on this matter, or perhaps point something out to me what I've missed on the site.

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« Reply #1 on: 04 January 2006, 04:21:00 »

*scratches head and thinks hard, then looks at Art*

Really, I can't point you now to any entry you have probably not read as well. Basing astrology on the stars like on earth is a bit difficult, for their movement is not as predictable ( you can't calculate it) as on earth. it has to be quite a bit different then. In the back of my mind is a discussion we had already about it, but i don't know, where it could be, probably it is lost in the crash anyway.

The only thing concerning numbers I can recall now is what I created for  Baveras (and the Shendar have partly adopted it), the number three being her number and the multiples of it.

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« Reply #2 on: 04 January 2006, 09:40:00 »

We do have alchemy, a gnomish "science", if my memory serves. But other than that, I am also at a loss.

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« Reply #3 on: 04 January 2006, 13:52:00 »

We've shortly touched astrology a while ago in discussion, and would love to see such things elaborated in Santharia, as such stuff makes great topics. Same with anything mystical or all other kinds of magical related stuff.  Though my personal knowledge in astrology for example is extremely limited.

I have a cool book on magic at home, which is really great in this respect. Inspired by that I initially planned a series of entries in order to develop magically related stuff and more precise defintions on various kinds of mages and magical arts. However, I only got the Macanti (Fakemages) up and my Witchcraft entry didn't meet the necessary approval I needed for such a project, so I quit persuing the issue and put my energies elsewhere.


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« Reply #4 on: 04 January 2006, 15:49:00 »

Your witchcraft entry wasn't very original, Art, you can do better! :p
You definitely were stuck to much in earthen imaginations.. a time will come and this will be done as well!

The magic robe will come soon!

(if I stop logging in and do comments which are not necessary !  ;)  )

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« Reply #5 on: 04 February 2006, 22:24:00 »

We have alchemy??? Where, in magic there's no entry, and in site search only few phrases appear.

People, I love the alchemy, my grandpa had a big amount of books about it, and I had read much of the attemps of metal (and human) transmutation, Really, point me in the direction to see what we have of alchemy ;)

Another questions
In Caelereth is practised the Quiromancy? (hand reading)
What about Cristalomancy? (looking in the cristal ball)
The magic ban include this aspects? I mean if its banned to make an entry about these practises for looking the future.  

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« Reply #6 on: 05 February 2006, 02:22:00 »

Orril, it is not yet on the site but huge already! It was started by somebody, many contributed, it was a lonnng discussion thread, then our Bard did take on the big work to write all together... and then we lost all in the big ezboard crash last year. However, dear Judy had saved it, and so we have at least the submission itself, look here

The the other things you asked: We have them, but most are not described. The Black Butterfly Rovers use them, I would say. Baveras aids don't use glass, but a water mirror to look into other 'dimensions', Seyella priest don't need anything, if I'm correct.
Macanti would probably use them.

Theo might have been interested in doing something, don't know.

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« Reply #7 on: 06 February 2006, 00:00:00 »

Just be aware that 'alchemy' in Caelereth is the equivalent of 'science' - it is a legitimate explorational discipline which seeks to discover how things work.

At least, certain branches of alchemy do... others are just as mystical and philosophically oriented as Terran alchemy was, and should certainly satiate any seeker after various forms of wisdom...

But do go read the entry (or, I should say, submission, as it is past the proposal stage and collated, but still not finalized) !

Perhaps I need to be inspired to step in and finish it off... when I have more (sigh) time...

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« Reply #8 on: 06 February 2006, 17:32:00 »

:eek  Judith, you're scaring me - with all the asides and mid-sentence remarks you've started to sound like me!

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