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« Reply #15 on: 29 November 2002, 00:19:00 »

Okay now, you two?

Good.

We encourage the use of RL research and supporting evidence, without necessarily relying upon it to do our creative thinking for us.  Also, there is a very definite (but elusive) difference between the cultural heritage of Santharia and of Terra (RL).  

So:  Druids on earth may behave a certain way, and it may be valid for their roles and stereotypes and behaviours to 'carry over' into a Santharian description.  

But:  it is just as true that Santharian druids, once described, defined, and Compendiumized (good word, eh?) must then remain true to their own character within the Sorren culture.

Personally, I think this is a lovely weapon, both useful and decorative.  It might well be popular with women for that very reason - small and easy to conceal, but good for defense.  Female entertainers might wear it openly as part of their costume, for example.  Thieves and assassins who prefer subtlety and discretion in going armed would appreciate it.  

But a Santh Druid?  Hmmm...  a quarterstaff which assists in walking and can be used for defense (not offense, and not to death) in dire need seems very appropriate.  A small dagger is essential to almost every sentient in Sorren at this time, as eating utensil and general handy tool and implement - Druids no exception.  They would need it to help gather their plants and herbs, if nothing else (although Llian might choose to have them carry the ubiquitous miniature sickle, the classic druidical tool).  The fan seems out of character for a woodlands druid or Jeyrial-worshipping ranger, and more appropriate in an urban setting.


That would be my p.o.v, but others are welcome.  Let me know what you think, Rayne and Llian.

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« Reply #16 on: 29 November 2002, 00:55:00 »

Yes, Mommy-Judith!

I'll add it being popular with women, both as a defense weapon and also as a decorative ornament for entertainers.


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« Reply #17 on: 29 November 2002, 05:34:00 »

One thing i have to note:

when this fan is folded, how to you makee it have a sharp end? When a fan is folded, it is not thin aand sharp... and certainly not when it is armored. So how do you actually make this thing work as a weapon?

Sorry for trying to blast your eentry, rayne, but i really do not get it.



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« Reply #18 on: 29 November 2002, 16:24:00 »


I agree with Judith.

However, there are certain areas to a druid culture that would prevent a person of that perticuler nature to use a weapon in the first place. Such as, you wouldent find a priest useing a weapon to destry life, just as you would not see a druid to destry life because he cherishes all nature, trees, animals, plants earth, fire and the like. And THUS when killing something he feels as though he is killing what he worships, or even hurting.

This is what im trying to explain, and after thinking it through i can contruct my explination better.

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« Reply #19 on: 29 November 2002, 16:58:00 »

Silfer:  


I'm going to draw a picture of the fan, as it intrigues me and sounds like something simple enough to practise my meager skills on.  

I think I can envision what Rayne means, as these war fans really did exist in medieval Japan.  

A picture here will be worth, well, at least a hundred words...

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« Reply #20 on: 29 November 2002, 17:09:00 »

Hmmm.... Bard, can I talk to you about it? Maybe I revive a very idea of weapon entries if the idea sounds sufficient...

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« Reply #21 on: 29 November 2002, 21:36:00 »

Well... basically if you want an example of this weapon, play any of the Mortal Kombats. It was either Katana or the other chick who looked like her who used these fan weapons, two to be precise. Just imagine a metal Japanese fan, with sharp edges on the ends of each of the segments. If you've never seen a Japanese fan, then imagine holding a hand of cards. When you hold the hand open, that is the fan being open, like this /, only wider. You then fold them up into a deck, like this ||. Poor visual aids, but I hope you see what I mean.

And Rayne, in the entry don't say ninjas. Say Kar'ii. That's the Santharian ninja term. :)  

Oh, and Silfer, you don't use the fan as a weapon when it is folded. It is folded for carrying purposes and as part of  the dance forms. When used a weapon it is kept open.



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« Reply #22 on: 30 November 2002, 02:03:00 »

Hey Rayne, I like it! I like it for the use for women, but as well for men, like thiefs - or dancers.

And I personally don't have any problems with their use by clerics (don't know much about druids). Especially for the clerics who worship a god like Foirus, Queprur or the go of Excess . But I could envision it as well as weapon for a wandering Baveras priestess, for defense of course - but defense can as well mean attacking.
It is surely not so, that clerics would never touch a weapon to end a life. Surely - they might become guilty, but they would be guilty as well, if someone else comes to death because they didn't use a weapon.

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« Reply #23 on: 30 November 2002, 07:06:00 »

I'm glad you like it, Ms. Talia. ^_^ I'll add that bit about what sort of clerics would use it.

Wow. It seems the longer this is up, the more good stuff I get on it. It gets more and more detailed, it seems. ^_^''

Yay! Mommy-Judith might make a picture!

BTW: Dasson, I changed ninja to Kar'ii. Thanks for the correction. ^_~

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« Reply #24 on: 30 November 2002, 09:04:00 »

Ow, now i get it. I thought for soem odd reason it should be used as a weapon when it is folded... because i HAVE played Mortal Combat.

But then again:

How would you use it with aonuhg force to actually inflict more then a small cut? The way a fan is held.... and the way to hold it, you cant really swing your arm with anough force to make serious damage?  



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« Reply #25 on: 30 November 2002, 09:41:00 »

Actually, you certainly can use it as a weapon when folded.

Remember, you can use anything offensively (as every toddler knows) - your keyring in a pinch will inflict a lot of damage, for example....

The side slats (those are the two rays of the fan which form the outside edges when closed) are always thicker and extend above the top edge of the fan as well.  I envision these as being made of sturdy metal, with sharpened top edges.   When the fan is closed, it will become a rectangular bar of metal, with a pointy top - suitable for either jabbing or 'sandbagging'.  

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« Reply #26 on: 30 November 2002, 15:36:00 »

Judy did a wonderful Fan picture especially for you, Rayne, Koldar may perhaps add a bit of a 3d/metallic effect to it, let's see if he can still add an effect or two to the pic:



Magnifcent work, Masterbard... err.. Master Artist:)  

BTW: As the entry also discusses the fan in general I thought we could also add the picture of Enayla to the entry when you mention the dancing ladies... How about this one:



Oh, and Rayne: Could you perhaps summarize the entry in 2 or 3 sentences for the overview and add it on top?


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« Reply #27 on: 30 November 2002, 16:51:00 »

Summary added!

Wow... ::stares in wonder:: Pictures? For my entry? ::feels all special::

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« Reply #28 on: 30 November 2002, 16:54:00 »

(claps hands and dances happily around)

Art likes my picture!  Art likes my picture!


Now if only Koldar and the other artistic geniuses don't sneer at my inability to create metallic highlights, all will be well (note:  I was particularly proud of the rivets...)

By the way, that lady-with-fan picture will indeed go wonderfully in the entry, especially if Rayne does not mind including a line or two which will eventually link to the entry on Gerissa (a popular Santhalan dancer) which I am still planning to do... I reserved that pic for her AGES ago but I'm sure it can go in both entries, right?


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« Reply #29 on: 30 November 2002, 17:07:00 »

I added it in, Miss. Judith. No problem.

Wow. The entry gets better by the day! ^_^'

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