The Efer'Avél disease

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[Zdoth Natterath]

The Efer'Avél disease (or The Thought Burn in Tharian) is a mental illness, which attacks the conscious thought of the elderly, causing the afflicted to forget things. They first forget small things, but over time, he or she will start to forget more important matters. This disease is not fatal in itself, but its side effects could be.

Symptoms:

The earliest symptom is when the afflicted forgets what they were about to say. Not the occasional mind blank, but a frequent loss of thought. Soon they forget mainly unimportant things, like if they have watered their plants or looked after the dough for the loibla, have told their wives, that there was a neighbor here.

Things get worse at a slow pace, over a period of two or three years. There have been cases of it getting very worse very fast, but this occurs only very rarely. Finally forgetting things such as an old acquaintance they haven’t seen in ages worsens to good friends. The name of parents worsens to the name of a spouse. Eventually the afflicted forgets even the most simple task s or things to do like eating or going to the toilet.  

The afflicted will eventually reach the state of an alternate world. He is on the edge of reality, they often don‘t know, who they are .If someone who knew them were to remind them who they were, then everything will make sense again for a short while, then, in the blink of an eye, the afflicted forgets all they had remembered. Then this process repeats it self as long as someone can remind him or her who they are. Though the memories aren’t forgotten entirely. The afflicted will remember random things at random times, for instance, while sharing an old fishing tale the afflicted will suddenly start talking about an epic battle he claims he was involved in.


Effects:

This memory loss isn’t unbearable to the afflicted; they do not even know they have a disease. The relatives are the ones who face the biggest blow, having a loved one forget who you are and everything about you, this hurts to observe.  The family will normally get the afflicted to the cure. Though there are others who live with it without any attempt to cure it, or, sadly enough, some are even abandoned, left to fend for them selves, soon dying from lack of fostering


The effects of the Efer'Avél disease include a change in memory, personality, and often behavior. Also the Efer'Avél disease makes it hard for a person to carry out normal daily activities. He may ask the same questions repeatedly and get lost in familiar places. Or he or she may not be able to follow simple directions, may be disoriented about time, people, and places. The neglecting of personal safety, hygiene and nutrition are the causes for a death ahead of time.


Cure/Prevention:

Fish. Eating a lot of fish has been proven to help prevent this disease, though there has been a rare case or two where an old man in a fishing village has acquired this disease, most people who eat large quantities of fish aren’t susceptible to it.  Latest researches indicate, that though there is no cure, a medicine which main ingredient is the diluted venom of the coral sand snake found in the Ráhaz-Dáth could protract the symptoms, so that the progressing of the disease could be slowed down up to ten years. However, this is not thoroughly proved, so fomenting hope is not advisable.

There is a cure, though most forget about it before they reach it and have to have their families carry them there. A little village at the foot of the Norong‘Sorno volcano, northwest of Thalambath in southern Sarvonia has a well that is rumored to be enchanted. Who ever drinks out of it is put to sleep, during which the disease is cured. The cure its self can be deadly though. Once the ill has drank from the well, and has drunk the proper amount, he passes out, and stays in an unconscious state for a period of time. For most it is a matter of days only. However, there are always some, who drink too much, and will never gain conscience again, but die after some weeks from lack of nutrition, but that is the risk, the relatives of the ill take to escape more suffering.
However, those who do wake up remember their experience with the disease as no more than a dream and go back to life how they were used to.

Vector/Cause:
No one knows what causes this disease, though most think it is hereditary, passed down through generations; a recent research is attempting to link the disease with diet. For instance, the disease doesn’t occur in the Sanhorrhim tribe, or any other seaside area where the tribe eats lots of fish.

Endemic:

The Efer’Avél disease is not a rare disease. It affects mostly elven men; about one out of every hundred elves gets the disease, and about one out of every thousand in other races and genders. Also, the disease mostly affects the elderly, those over the age of fifty in humans, or the equivalent age in elves, dwarves, and orcs, depending on their tribe. There have been cases of younger people acquiring the disease as well. In these cases recovery from the disease is possible, but though the afflicted seem cured, the disease strikes back more severely when they reach an elderly age. If such a young man drinks the water while he has the disease, he is cured, and it wouldn’t strike back, how ever if he didn’t have the disease, he will only fall asleep.

History:

The first recorded case was among the Quaelhoirhim elves around 500 b. S. after a few of their elderly men suddenly forgot everything. Though there have been cases earlier, there was no pattern to them and they were disregarded. From there it spread over the whole of Santharia. If it has reached already Northern Sarvonia, is unclear due to the lack of reliable researches, however, rumors tell, that it occurred lately in the secluded living Tiralhon elves in Aeruillin

Edited by: Artimidor Federkiel at: 7/2/04 19:56

[Ta`lia of the Seven Jewels]

Not a bad start, Zdoth!

However, you describe the common dementia, be it an amnesic dementia,  Alzheimer's, or well just what happens sometimes to old people, not being a disease.

Is there something special Santharian, something new? We don't want to have the 1:1 transfer of earthen illnesses or orientation.

***Astropic of the day***
"For me there is only the traveling on paths that have heart, on any path   that may have heart. There I travel, and the only worthwhile challenge is to traverse its full length. And there I travel looking, looking, breathlessly. ~Don Juan"

[Zdoth Natterath]

Hmm not quite sure what you mean...maybe if i added rapid hair loss (in both genders) and a whitening of the skin/irises/hair?

[Ta`lia of the Seven Jewels]

Well, no, Zdoth, that is too simple and doesn‘t add much what makes this disease special.

To speak with Rayne: More detail.
Use your imagination and don‘t stick to what you know on earth. It has to be logical in itself to a certain degree, but you have a lot of freedom to think something up!

Where comes the name from you chose?

I‘m no doctor and not yet convenient with dementia as you describe it, but the normal one is based on calcination of the blood vessels, how Alzheimer works I don‘t know.

Diseases are all caused by  a virus or bacteria (which we would not know in Caelereth), and are contagious - do you want to have it this way? You could however make only a certain group of people vulnerable to it (depending either on things we again do not know like the blood factor) or the colour of the hair, the age as you did it or other factors.

You could do following:

- Extent it to all ages. Or to certain, say between 20 and 30 and after 50. The earlier state can be cured - maybe, maybe not
Say maybe it is common for older people, but happens to younger as well (AS YOU like it)

Places
- it doesn‘t affect people who live near the sea
- or who live in certain heights
- or live in the desert
-  it occurs very often in or near certain other places (volcanos, oor swamps?)

(People would pilgrim to the first mentioned locations , try to move in certain heights, if they feel the disease coming - if they can afford it)

speculations from where it derives( an insect, something else?)
What about a researcher, who maybe got it himself?
Is there something in the shivering woods which is nowhere else?These old elves who vanished, did they have the illness (can't remember properly now who lived there) tie it to them

Let a cure be possible in certain circumstance, maybe there are rumours about a rare plant which helps to better the illness?More details as you have now!

- Vary the illness itself, describe mild cases as you did above, but add examples, where it happened in two weeks, or two months?

- allow a miracle in one case (give the people hope)
- what about a spring which helps cure or slow down the process
(I could help you to find a place), then your next entry could be a place entry about this village, lol

These are just some ideas thrown out as they came to my mind, just PROPOSALS to show you what is possible.

My way of getting ideas is to have them in the back of my mind, and „carry“ them there for a few days - and suddenly the ideas pop out so quickly that I can‘t write them down .

***Astropic of the day***
"For me there is only the traveling on paths that have heart, on any path   that may have heart. There I travel, and the only worthwhile challenge is to traverse its full length. And there I travel looking, looking, breathlessly. ~Don Juan"

Edited by: Talia Sturmwind  at: 6/10/04 11:39

[Zdoth Natterath]

Thank you Talia!!!!

Here are the changes i am thinking of making

-Elves are more vunerable to it than any other race

- I like your suggestion about it happening to younger people also

-It doesnt affect people who live near the sea (because large quantities of fish seem to prevent it)

-people who live in extreamly hot climates are more likely to get this disease than those who live in a more temperate climate

-I'll tie it to those elves (i'll have to research who lived there)

-I like the idea of making a new village where there is a spring that can cure the disease

-also i think i am going to change it around a bit, insted of forgetting things, they are simply...misplaced thoughts, and they can pop up into mind at random times


How do these changes sound Talia?

(and can you help me with the village?)

Edited by: Zdoth Natterath at: 6/10/04 18:24

[Coren FrozenZephyr]

 

Talia why don't you use some of the stuff you carry there to make more outlines? I think i'll save this link somewhere in case I ever need to write an entry on a disease.

Is this disease present in every part of the world or only limited to a certain area Zdoth? If you're thinking about expanding its territory to Nybelmar, I can help you with the Krath view on the subject  

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Edited by: Coren FrozenZephyr at: 6/11/04 13:33

[Zdoth Natterath]

 

Thanks Coren but i'm thinking of leaving it in Sarvonia...though i may need something to cause it...and if i do...then there is no reason for people from the other countires to get the disease...

[Ta`lia of the Seven Jewels]

Hot climates!!!  

*orders shiploads of dried fish from Queen Artemis to distribute it under her Shendar*

'mainly elves' *sigh*

Sounds good! Just go on.

The only problem might be, what do you understand under "hot climates"? For in the Rahaz-Dath, where it is hot, live no elves. And the Sharadon as the most southern point of Sarvonia where elves life is not particular hot. (It is a normal forest)

Elves in hot regions are found only in Aeruillin, f.e. the Tiralhon.

So you might think of something else.

Maybe forgetting something, gaining memory back , partly perhaps, would be an option. That would increase the fear, if you are able to remember, that you lost your memory partly.

You could do a mild form in the youth, which goes away, but you know, that you will get it  - most probably - in a sever form in the age.  Like you get chicken pox, when you are young and shingles(zoster) in the age - if you were infected with chicken pox first.

And please don't say it is incurable in every case, allow small wonders now and then!

Of course I help you with the village - it doesn't need to be a whole place entry, just a nice description in the disease entry.

 Just thought of a nice little village somewhere at the bottom of the Norong'Sorno, which economy is mainly based on tourists who drink barrels of sulfuric water because they think it help against your disease!

So, start redoing your entry, I will comment as soon as you are finished with your next step.

 What do you mean, Coren??? Oh no! I don't want to have more diseases here!

***Astropic of the day***
"For me there is only the traveling on paths that have heart, on any path   that may have heart. There I travel, and the only worthwhile challenge is to traverse its full length. And there I travel looking, looking, breathlessly. ~Don Juan"

[Zdoth Natterath]

*whispers to Talia* i didnt say it was incurable :-P

OK, hot climates...i did say it mostly effects elves....so hot climates still applys to the other races  uggrin

ok other than that i think i have most of the editions done...here we go again

I think i may have frogotten something...

and i am not sure what to do about tieing those elves to the disease...and i need the name for village lol

Edited by: Zdoth Natterath at: 6/12/04 3:06

[Ta`lia of the Seven Jewels]

I hope I'll come to it this night, Zdoth!

***Astropic of the day***
"For me there is only the traveling on paths that have heart, on any path   that may have heart. There I travel, and the only worthwhile challenge is to traverse its full length. And there I travel looking, looking, breathlessly. ~Don Juan"

[Hieronimus Kupfdrubus]

Ha! Seems I have to keep an eye on you! "This disease is not fatal."

Thank you!

Elderly people!    

H.Kupfdrubus

[Ta`lia of the Seven Jewels]

 comments  

 corrections  

proposal

 grammar&co - as far as I see it  


The Avéleferán    Have you made sure, that the connection of this two elven words in this form is correct? Better ask in the language forum!disease (or The Thought Burn in Tharian) attacks the conscience thought    Oh, I don‘t know, if this term is correct - isn‘t it conscious, if at all?  of the elderly, causing a loss in memory starting from the short term then ending in the long term.    This ex-pression is unclear, what do you exactly mean with short term and long term  This disease is not fatal. well, in the end it is fatal, if you don‘t remember, that you should avoid orcs... or poisonous plants...    not fatal in itself, but the circumstances can lead to an untimely death

 I think you do mean something else: The disease attacks the brain and has effects on the mental or intellectual health of the person.  

Symptoms: The earliest symptom is when the afflicted forgets what they were about to say. Not the occasional mind blank, but a frequent loss of thought. Soon they forget unimportant things, like the name of a child hood pet, the names of parents, old friends, complicated things.


Things get worse at a slow pace, about two or three years, though there have been cases of it getting very worse very fast, it is very rare for that to occur. Forgetting things such as old friends worsens to good friends. The name of parents worsens to the name of a spouse. Eventually the afflicted forgets even the most simple task.


Effects: The afflicted will eventually reach the state of an alternate world. The afflicted is on the edge of reality, they know who they are, but they don’t. If someone who knew them were to remind them who they were, then everything will make sense again for a short while, then, in the blink of an eye, the afflicted forgets all they had remembered. Then this process repeats it self as long as someone can remind him or her who they are. Though the memories aren’t forgotten, they are mealy lost. The afflicted will remember random things at random times, for instance, while sharing an old fishing tale the afflicted will suddenly start talking about an epic battle he was involved in.
 Zdoth, you are really describing dementia, partly,  but it could be much more! Elaborate it! Go to www.google.com and type in dementia, and you will find a lot of links. From there you can take more ideas , how the people with‘memory los‘ are afflicted!  How does it affect relatives?

Cure/Prevention: Fish. Eating a lot of fish has been proven to help prevent this disease, though there has been a rare case or two where an old man in a fishing village has acquired this disease, Maybe he didn‘t like fish   most people who eat large quantities of fish aren’t susceptible to it. Also those living in extremely warm climates (such as deserts) link it to Santharia, name the deserts! are more susceptible to this disease than those who live in more temperate climates, there for living in cooler climates helps prevent the disease.
Yeah, that is clear, skip the last half sentence.

There is a cure, though most forget about it before they reach it. they have to be brought there by relatives (in severe cases.) A small fishing village  in southern Sarvonia at the foot of the Norong‘Sorno volcano, north-west of Thalam‘bath has an  () well,  which the people say is enchanted (so you won‘t get trouble with our mages). Who ever drinks out of it  is cured from this disease, though the cure it()   self can be deadly. Once one has drank from the well, if they are afflicted with the disease, they pass out, and stay in an unconscious state for a period of time. What happens , if you were not inflicted and drink nevertheless?   The wording is a bit off, Maybe: Once a person who has the disease has drunk from the well the right amount of water, he passes out and stays in an unconscious state for a period of time

For most it is a matter of days. For others, it can last weeks, months, even years. Years is too long, they would die before of hydration or malnutrition - who would feed them this long, if this would be able at all - no infusions here!  I would propose weeks at the longest timespan. In a few cases they have never woken up  , but died after some time from lack of nutrition  . Or better: However, there are always some, who will never gain conscience again, but die after some weeks from lack of nutrition, but that is the risk, the relatives of the ill take to escape more suffering . But if they do wake up, they remember their experience with the disease as no more than a dream and go back to life how they remember it before.
 Cut ‚fishing‘ (village), it is much more interesting to have a village grown because the well was there , or write, that it was once a fishing village , but now all turns around the well, the guests and the patients.
Another proposal: Make it a bit more strenous for the ill: They have to drink a certain amount, otherwise it doesn‘t help, but it needs some time to take effect. If they drink to much, it may be fatal.
Is the amount you have to drink dependant of the severness of the illness, of the age?

Vector/Cause: No one knows what causes this disease, though most think it is hereditary, passed down through generations; there is a study that is attempting to link the disease with diet.
 Study sounds a bit too scientific, though it is one, name a researcher!

Endemic: The Avéleferán disease effects elven men, though other cases where the other races and genders have obtained this disease is not uncommon. Also, the disease mostly affects the elderly, those over the age of 50 in humans, or the equivalent age in elves,  depending on their tribe  , dwarves, and orcs; but there have been cases of younger people  also  acquiring the disease. In these cases, they seem cured, but the disease strikes back when they reach an elderly age.  Young people seem to revover from the disease, but it strikes back more severly when they reach an older age than normally.
 What if such a young man goes to our village?  

History: The first recorded case was around 500 b. S. in the Zeiphyrian Forest. Little is known about what happened to the old elf.
No, nobody will remember a single old elf, nor his illness. How spread the disease, where do we have it now, and how many people are affected? When was discovered, that it strikes harder in hot regions? Why was the Zeiphyrian forest the origine?
It is rumoured, that the disease occured the first time in the Z. forest about 500 b.S. ....  name the rumour, invent an origine, or go farer back in history, tie it to an certain event.



Links to a description of Dementia
www.mentalhealth.com/dis/p20-or05.html
Scan through all three link there (European/American/Merk manual), but don‘t use a too scientific language - you are a middle age researcher!

www.4woman.gov/faq/dementia.htm

As I said : google is your friend too!



I hope you don't wish now, that I have never looked at your entry! It is always hard the first time, Zdoth, you are on the way!

***Astropic of the day***
"For me there is only the traveling on paths that have heart, on any path   that may have heart. There I travel, and the only worthwhile challenge is to traverse its full length. And there I travel looking, looking, breathlessly. ~Don Juan"

[Mina]

Quote:which the people say is enchanted (so you won‘t get trouble with our mages)

Yes, we mages are very picky with such things

As for the history, perhaps the earliest confirmed case could be as you mentioned, though rumours and documents dating from that time imply that the disease had already been around for a while by then.  That is, if you want its origins to be more uncertain.  

[Zdoth Natterath]

Replying to your comment (btw, to Hier, it effects elves mostly so your safe)

Your comments are in BOLD ORANGE

Have you made sure, that the connection of this two elven words in this form is correct? Better ask in the language forum!
Done, waiting for a reply

Oh, I don‘t know, if this term is correct - isn‘t it conscious, if at all?
Bah! Conscience, conscious same thing in my book :-P  (fixed)

This ex-pression is unclear, what do you exactly mean with short term and long term
Changed, but I may need some help with the wording

well, in the end it is fatal, if you don‘t remember, that you should avoid orcs... or poisonous plants... not fatal in itself, but the circumstances can lead to an untimely death
:-P the disease isn’t deadly, but it’s effects are.  

I think you do mean something else: The disease attacks the brain and has effects on the mental or intellectual health of the person.
hmm that works…I’ll just use that wording if the new one I have doesn’t work

Zdoth, you are really describing dementia, partly, but it could be much more! Elaborate it! Go to www.google.com and type in dementia, and you will find a lot of links. From there you can take more ideas , how the people with‘memory los‘ are afflicted! How does it affect relatives?
Didn’t think I had to include more stuff…but I will!!  I am in the process of looking it up, I should have this part updated by the time you read it again

link it to Santharia, name the deserts!
Done and done!

they have to be brought there by relatives (in severe cases.)
added

at the foot of the Norong‘Sorno volcano, north-west of Thalam‘bath
so this is where we are making our little village eh?  Sounds good, added

which the people say is enchanted (so you won‘t get trouble with our mages)
oops, forgot about that little detail, changed

What happens , if you were not inflicted and drink nevertheless?
I could say that it induces sleep in little amounts

The wording is a bit off, Maybe: Once a person who has the disease has drunk from the well the right amount of water, he passes out and stays in an unconscious state for a period of time
ok, but I’m still putting in the extreme cases

Years is too long, they would die before of hydration or malnutrition - who would feed them this long, if this would be able at all - no infusions here! I would propose weeks at the longest timespan.
>_< was thinking of modern technology in here, changed

but died after some time from lack of nutrition
added

Or better: However, there are always some, who will never gain conscience again, but die after some weeks from lack of nutrition, but that is the risk, the relatives of the ill take to escape more sufferingJebus what is it with you and the lack of nutrition?  This sounds best, changed it to this

Cut ‚fishing‘ (village), it is much more interesting to have a village grown because the well was there , or write, that it was once a fishing village , but now all turns around the well, the guests and the patients.
sounds good, consider it cut!

Another proposal: Make it a bit more strenous for the ill: They have to drink a certain amount, otherwise it doesn‘t help, but it needs some time to take effect. If they drink to much, it may be fatal.
Is the amount you have to drink dependant of the severness of the illness, of the age?
I have a better idea, they have to drink a certain amount depending on the severity, but if they drink too much, they never wake up

Study sounds a bit too scientific, though it is one, name a researcher!
eh?  Should I just cut it out?

depending on their tribe , dwarves, and orcs; but there have been cases of younger people also
added

Young people seem to revover from the disease, but it strikes back more severly when they reach an older age than normally.
added or changed or what ever it was I needed to do lol

What if such a young man goes to our village?
the same that happens to the elderly, though he has to be suffering from the illness, which I am adding lol

No, nobody will remember a single old elf, nor his illness. How spread the disease, where do we have it now, and how many people are affected? When was discovered, that it strikes harder in hot regions? Why was the Zeiphyrian forest the origine?
and why not?  lol, I get what you mean, I will explain these things

It is rumoured, that the disease occured the first time in the Z. forest about 500 b.S. .... name the rumour, invent an origine, or go farer back in history, tie it to an certain event.
ok I am going to name the origin, and I may go back and tie it to an event..depending on if I can find a suitable one

Thanks for the research help! lol

Arg, your right! But, nevertheless, thank you for your help  glad to have help from someone as friendly as your self

[Ta`lia of the Seven Jewels]

Zdoth, forgot about this, will come back to it tonight (hopefully)
You have to scream loudly, if I don't come back!

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